01 Sep 2015 17:15:22
Just want some thoughts.
Horford (played for Donovan)
01 Sep 2015 18:27:22
Ibaka, Waiters, & Adams for Horford & Thabo
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01 Sep 2015 17:15:22
Just want some thoughts.
Horford (played for Donovan)
01 Sep 2015 18:27:22
Ibaka, Waiters, & Adams for Horford & Thabo
01 Sep 2015 16:53:08
CLE get Serge Ibaka & Evan Turner
OKC get Kevin Love & Avery Bradley
BOS get Dion Waiters, Tim Mozgov & 1st from OKC
01 Sep 2015 06:59:01
Cavs get Demarcus Cousins
Kings get Kevin Love and 2016 1st round pick
Pf. T. Thompson
Sf. L. James
C. D. Cousins
Sg. I. Shumpert
Pg. K. Irving
Pf. K. Love
Sf. R. Gay
C. W. CauleyStein
Sg. B. McLemore
Pg. R. Rondo
01 Sep 2015 13:26:42
Cousins is worth more IMO
01 Sep 2015 15:53:45
I'm not looking at 16ppg Kevin Love with the Cavs I'm looking at 25ppg Kevin Love with the Wolves.
01 Sep 2015 16:25:32
Love isn't that guy anymore. If that's the case, let's do this:
Heat get Cousins and 2 1st Rd
Sacramento gets Dwayne Wade
01 Sep 2015 17:03:16
Love is still that player. The problem with the big 3 concept is that the two guys that handle the ball the most continue to get their stats. The big guy typically gets hosed statistically. Same happened to Bosh in Miami. Once Bron left his stats jumped again. He went from 24ppg in Toronto to 18ppg then 16ppg in Miami. Last year he jumped back to 21ppg.
If Cousins saw his stats drop like that he might explode. Maybe Bron could keep him under control.
01 Sep 2015 17:16:06
Not enough for cousins
01 Sep 2015 18:45:59
Kevin Love is still that guy. If u haven't noticed every single all-star player to ever play with Lebron has their numbers go down
01 Sep 2015 06:39:23
Magic get Demarcus Cousins
Kings get Nikola Vucevic and Victor Oladipo
Pf. A. Gordon/ A. Nicholson
Sf. T. Harris/ E. Fournier
C. D. Cousins/ C. Frye
SG. M. Herzonja/ W. Green
Pg. E. Payton/ S. Napier
Pf. W. CauleyStein/ Q. Acy
Sf. R. Gay/ C. Butler
C. N. Vucevic/ K. Koufas
Sg. V. Oladipo/ B. McLemore
Pg. R. Rondo/ D. Collison
01 Sep 2015 13:27:02
Sacramento says hell no
01 Sep 2015 17:17:29
this is an interesting idea. Would take more from magic but it's not as far off as it could be. If the magic through in henjoza I think that would do.
01 Sep 2015 18:47:27
Well I think Herzonja is that last guy they would just "throw in" because he is the one that makes Oladipo tradeable. maybe they could throw in next years 1st round pick lottery protected
01 Sep 2015 18:47:55
Or they could throw in Nicholson
01 Sep 2015 18:50:39
This gives the Kings the best defensive back court in the NBA. Two 20ppg players in Gay and Vucevic. and a lot of potential with CauleyStein in their starting line up. you could argue this would also give the kings the best 2nd unit back court with Collison and McLemore. and 3 other solid 2nd unit players in Acy, Butler, and Koufus. I see this Kings team grabbing the 8 or 7 seed
01 Sep 2015 01:23:06
Bos - sac
Bos - r gay
Sac - e turner j jerebko
01 Sep 2015 06:31:07
Not nearly enough for gay.
01 Sep 2015 01:35:44
Lac - det
Lac - j neeks
Det - j Crawford
01 Sep 2015 04:55:34
01 Sep 2015 13:42:51
He is a very good shooter tough call on this one.
01 Sep 2015 01:04:53
Cle - lal
Cle - sign n trade T Thompson(94 mil/5years) for r hibbert and swaggy p
01 Sep 2015 05:20:28
Lol I wish this could happen
01 Sep 2015 06:33:33
Thompson and randle wouldn't work in the frontcourt, and why would Cleveland want hibbert with mozgov and varejao.
01 Sep 2015 13:57:34
@kiks why can't Thompson and randle work? Randle is years away from becoming whatever player he will be. And it's about getting something for a player who no longer wants to be there.
01 Sep 2015 15:04:53
Hibbert would only end with the cavs if some sort of injury happened to mozgov
01 Sep 2015 01:01:35
Bos - Min
Bos - pekovic a Bennett
Min - d Lee p Jones
01 Sep 2015 05:49:23
Boston would laugh, then hang up.
01 Sep 2015 16:32:00
31 Aug 2015 20:19:23
PHX - CHI - SAC
PHX get: Demarcus Cousins
CHI get: Markieff Morris, Rudy Gay, & Alex Len
SAC get: Eric Bledsoe, Joakim Noah, Nikola Mirotic, & Doug McDermott
01 Sep 2015 17:19:40
I see where your going there but it's not enough proven talent for cousins. Bledsoes a nice player but the rest are risks
31 Aug 2015 19:35:34
Celtics get Nikola Pekovic and 2016 2nd round pick
Wolves get Evan Turner, Tyler Zeller, and Jonas Jerebko expiring
31 Aug 2015 23:29:04
Celtics say hell no. No one wants pekovic and his contract
31 Aug 2015 23:49:03
Boston wouldn't trade any of the 3 you mention for Pekovic.
01 Sep 2015 16:09:27
Idk if it possible but what if it was turner, jerebko for pekovic and the 2016 pick becomes completely unprotected? C's pay pek way to much for a year or so and look for an opportunity to trade him for something later (like they just did with Wallace). C's unmuddy the front court a bit and add a top 10 pick. Just a thought
31 Aug 2015 15:22:32
HOU - TOR - LAC
HOU get: Jamal Crawford
TOR get: Terrence Jones
LAC get: Terrence Ross
31 Aug 2015 15:55:05
Houston cuts out the Clippers. They'd rather have Ross.
31 Aug 2015 13:48:29
CHI - PHX - MIN
CHI get: Gorgui Dieng & Ricky Rubio
PHX get: Taj Gibson
MIN get: Markieff Morris, Doug McDermott, Aaron Brooks, CHI 2016 1st DP, & 2x Future Suns 2nd DPs
31 Aug 2015 19:54:07
Why would Minnesota trade their starting PG and valuable backup C for a third string SF and a disgruntled PF and a late 1st. Minnesota say no thanks.
31 Aug 2015 10:55:56
# TRADE # Heat - 76ERS
PHI gets M. Chalmers / C. Andersen
MIA gets T. Wroten / C. Landry
31 Aug 2015 12:58:14
Neither team does this trade.
Miami is trying to dump salaries to stay below the Luxury Tax. This trade is almost a dollar for dollar trade, so it doesn't create any financial help for the Heat. In fact, it probably makes it worse since both Wroten and Landry combine for $9m both this season AND next season.
As for the Sixers, they won't do this since they'd rather have Wroten than Chalmers. Anderson and Landry are a wash from their perspective since the Sixers would most likely release either of them by end of year.
The Sixers might trade Landry to the Heat for Chalmers and Anderson but since they're helping the Heat money wise, the Heat would have to add in draft considerations.
Yes, the NBA is wacky.
31 Aug 2015 14:55:19
Not a smart trade for the Sixers. Wrotens a better prospect then charlmers so what's the point of adding chalmers.
31 Aug 2015 01:03:23
Lac - mia
Lac - m Chalmers Josh Richardson/T Johnson
Mia - j Crawford
30 Aug 2015 22:34:32
Suns get Kevin Martin (they need wing scoring)
Wolves get Keef Morris (They could use a better PF)
31 Aug 2015 10:57:43
If they will not use KAT as their PF.
31 Aug 2015 12:19:29
The suns actually need more depth at PF than the wing position
31 Aug 2015 13:21:22
Wolfs don't need a below pf
31 Aug 2015 15:58:25
Wolves wouldn't want Keiff in that young locker room.
30 Aug 2015 21:55:58
Lakers acquire PJ Tucker
Suns acquire Nick Young, Evan Turner, Lakers 2nd rd pick & Jared Sullinger
Celtics acquire Markieff Morris
31 Aug 2015 06:13:32
Why Celtics need Kieff?
31 Aug 2015 12:20:17
Boston need another player or 2nd rd draft pick
31 Aug 2015 15:58:32
Look, no one wants Sawggy P especially PHX. Lakers are stuck with him
30 Aug 2015 20:46:15
Knicks get Evan Turner
- Knicks might get additional playmaking from Turner
Celtics get future 2nd round pick & Lance Thomas (cut)
- Celtics cut a player
31 Aug 2015 16:29:27
Couldn't the Knicks just keep Thomas, if the Cs are just going to cut him.
31 Aug 2015 18:48:53
what happened to D-Will.
30 Aug 2015 20:30:58
Thunder get Jamal Crawford
Clippers get Andre Roberson, Steve Novak, and rights to Alex Abrines
Pf. S. Ibaka/ M. McGary/ N. Collison
Sf. K. Durant/ K. Singler/ J. Huestis
C. E. Kanter/ S. Adams/ D. Johnson
SG. D. Waiters/ J. Crawford/ A. Morrow
Pg. R. Westbrook/ C. Payne/ D. Augustine
01 Sep 2015 16:37:13
Clips don't want to help the Thunder. Roberson has little offensive game.
30 Aug 2015 20:19:55
Thunder acquire Avery Bradley, Markieff Morris, 2nd round pick from Suns & 1st round pick from Celtics
Celtics get Serge Ibaka
Suns get Jared Sullinger & Andre Roberson
31 Aug 2015 06:03:07
As a Thunder fan I would even make it Dion Waiters instead of Roberson to sweeten the deal
31 Aug 2015 06:04:50
Its so funny though when you guys have Kanter as our back up center tho. we just gave him a max deal and he averaged 19 and 12 for us in almost 30 games last year. he is our starting center and Adams is the back up
31 Aug 2015 06:17:09
Adams is a far better defender. So someone - Ibaka or Adams - has to cover up for his shiiity defense.
31 Aug 2015 16:00:32
Honestly, waiters doesn't sweeten any trade jbabby. His trade value looooooow. And yeah, if OKC is starting Kanter, they NEED a defensive minded PF, cause Kanter is the worst defender in the nba.
31 Aug 2015 16:01:26
Ibaka is crucial to the Thunder and they're a contender this year. They won't move him for Morris and rebuild assets.
31 Aug 2015 23:55:56
C's would need a 1st rounder coming back their way or substitute Bradley for Turner and a 2nd rounder to Boston.
30 Aug 2015 20:05:08
Heat acquire Aaron Brooks
Suns acquire Taj Gibson & 2nd from MIA
Bulls acquire PJ Tucker, Chris Andersen, Mario Chalmers & 2nd round pick from PHX
30 Aug 2015 18:48:23
Bos - hou
Bos - T Jones
Hou - sully
30 Aug 2015 18:17:38
Raptors get Martin, Bennett, right to swap 2016 1st rd picks
TWolves get DeRozan
30 Aug 2015 19:20:35
Very bad for Raptors.
30 Aug 2015 20:13:46
Maybe if Toronto gets muhammad instead of Martin and the 2016 pick outright they might say yes. Or just Ross instead of derozan.
31 Aug 2015 04:21:59
Yeah, Wolves get a steal in this deal
30 Aug 2015 16:29:24
Trade Utah Jazz - Atlanta Hawks
UTA: Dennis Schroeder, Mike Scott, Lamar Patterson
ATL: Trevor Booker, Trey Burke, Elijah Millsap
With Utah in need for a point guard (after Exums injury), couldn't be the Hawks Dennis Schroeder a good fit? Schroeder said that his goal is to become a starter, but with Teague around in Atlanta this seems highly unlikely, also as both hardly shared minutes together on the floor last season. In Utah meanwhile he very likely would be the Starting-PG (not sure where Trey Burke's development is going), with being 21 he fits in the Jazz young squad and also would have a fellow German with Tibor Pleiss on his team (both are currently team-mates in the Euro Basket). Besides as big man, Trevor Booker could play some SF in Atlanta and the Millsaps are united, as well.
30 Aug 2015 17:27:46
Atlanta would want more. Probably a first rounder.
30 Aug 2015 19:21:24
30 Aug 2015 20:15:35
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think booker has ever played small forward.
31 Aug 2015 09:45:42
Yeah okay xD, but hey according to Bball-reference Booker played about 13% as a small forward in his first 3 seasons with the Wizards. But nonetheless he'd form a good back-up big man duo with Tiago Splitter I guess. And now as the main argument for this trade: Yesterday I watched the test game between France vs Germany and Rudy Gobert and Dennis Schroeder once seemed to have quite a friendly chat after a foul. Trade fixed. No really, I think the interaction between these two would be awesome, as Schroeder often drives to the basket to pass to an open big man and Gobert finally could finish these plays, while Pleiss often fails to prevail on the German team.
31 Aug 2015 16:04:00
The point is you're not giving Atlanta enough for Schroder.
01 Sep 2015 17:09:43
I agree this is a good start for a trade. Schroeder/Scott for Burke/booker. I just think Atlanta would want more, because its Utah that needs a point guard, not the other way around. Maybe a swap of first round picks this year would do it.
But I think, more than likely, they will make a small trade to bring in a 1year point guard to make due, such as Chalmers or bayless.
30 Aug 2015 15:52:42
CHI get Mario Chalmers
MIA get Aaron Brooks & 2nd rd pick
CHI get a quality back up PG
MIA saves some money while still getting a back up PG
CHI get Kelly Olynyk & PJ Tucker
PHX get Taj Gibson, Evan Turner & Perry Jones
BOS get Markieff Morris & 2nd from CHI
CHI get a back up CE who can stretch the floor and a defensive SF
PHX reload their roster
BOS cut some players while getting a quality Forward
CHICAGO BULLS roster
- starters can defend well while the bench can shoot the lights out
30 Aug 2015 16:17:21
Heat should be trading the second
30 Aug 2015 17:40:37
Heat are looking to move Chalmers for almost anything to gain Luxury Tax relief. King is right. They're lucky to get anything of value back.
30 Aug 2015 18:21:09
Rondo was traded and I don't think Boston wants another player that seems to have an attitude.
30 Aug 2015 15:30:26
Lakers trade Russell and Randle and 2016 second rounder
Kings trade cousins
I like Randle and I love Russell but cousins is a beast. Lakers get a star center who can attract free agents
Kings get a nice core group for the future with Russell mclemore gay Randle and wcs
Too little,too much, or just right value?
30 Aug 2015 16:21:50
This will totally depends on what will happen this season.
30 Aug 2015 17:05:18
Cousins is very very good. and this is fair value that could get him from the Kings assuming the king actually want to trade him. I think a first rounder has to be there instead of the 2nd but I'm aware of the situation with the lakers first round picks so maybe that can be overlooked.
Honestly though. Idk if the lakers should build with cousins. He's had talent around him and hasn't won much. Plus not many free agents are jumping to play with them evidence by the guy currently on the team. That could just be the kings though not being attractive. All in all it interesting value and possible.
30 Aug 2015 17:37:48
I think free agents aren't turned off from him I think it's the Kings organization. He hasn't had good talent around him his best players with him has been Rudy gay besides that no much
30 Aug 2015 17:39:00
Value is fair. I think the Kings will implode and look to trade cousins this season, so this is very possible. The one thing I disagree with: I don't think cousins would attract free agents. I don't see stars wanting to play with him.
30 Aug 2015 17:44:44
The only way that works for the Lakers is IF they can attract the only free agent worth the risk- Durant. I'm pretty sure he's the only super stud FA this coming off season.
IF they don't get the free agent influx, then they've just transported Cousins from one problem situation to another because he and Clarkson are not enough to make the jump into the top tier.
I'd actually like to see Clarkson, Durant and Cousins together--- but only after the Sixers get their pick.
30 Aug 2015 17:49:25
Fair value if Russell and randle both look very good as rookies. If one of the two looks bad, not enough for cousins. Imo, cousins is the best center on the nba. he's a proven beast. Interesting trade.
30 Aug 2015 18:09:04
If we can't attract durant would derozan cousins clarkson and maybe someone like whiteside or a decent or good center or power forward be interesting
30 Aug 2015 18:19:49
The Lakers should do this if they get a commitment from a FA (like KD) or can sign a couple of FA (like beal, Conley,horford) 2 out of the 3. If they can't sign a top FA they will be better off rebuilding
30 Aug 2015 18:26:19
If cannot get Durant, I'd pursue Conley and Derozan plus maybe some sort of John Henson to play CE/PF
but this also if only Kobe doesn't resign for some more years
30 Aug 2015 19:01:30
If we get cousins fire Scott and let kd pick his coach. Kd wants to win so getting cousins makes sense. Lakers finally have the ability to sign multiple max free agents.'what I'm thinking
Sg defensive guard or open to Kobe return
PF bass/another free agent
Or without durant and cousins
If lakers keep there pick it's a while different scenario
30 Aug 2015 19:42:26
No King. I think its got to be Durant. The West is evil-tough. If Clarkson blossoms then there's the big 3. And I'm not sure Cousins respects just any superstar. He might fall into line attitude-wise with Durant. The other guys are good but Durant is the big fish LA would need to land.
30 Aug 2015 20:14:18
Derozan and whiteside are good enough and young
31 Aug 2015 06:15:27
I honestly think for durant it will be dc or okc. But teams will have there chance
31 Aug 2015 13:00:34
Honest difference of opinion. Drrozan and Whiteside to not have the star appeal that Durant would bring to LA. And we know the Lakers need that star appeal.
31 Aug 2015 15:08:23
I know that they don't have star appeal. But derozan can defend is athletic and was two time all star and could fit well next to Russell and clarkson. For whiteside, he can block rebound and knock down jumpers so he covers up randles defensive issues. They would interesting fits. I really want durant he's my second favorite player. But to get durant Fire Jim buss
31 Aug 2015 15:31:52
I think every team should try to get durant. That being said. Cousins isn't enough to draw a guy like durant to la over dc who already have a young nucleus in place and the ability to sign him.
31 Aug 2015 16:05:37
Russell and Randle have shown nothing.
31 Aug 2015 23:25:26
That's why I said after the season. Tregib yeah the Wizards have wall and Beal but they have to play beal to.
01 Sep 2015 05:21:50
Pay I meant not play
30 Aug 2015 15:05:13
Bulls get M. Chalmers, J. Grant, better of Miami or OKC pick from Sixers
Heat get 2nd round picks and Luxury Tax relief. Sorry, that's all they get.
Sixers get McBuckets
Bulls need quality back up PG
Heat need tax relief
Sixers want another spot up shooter
Heat gain tax relief, get low value picks
Bulls get Chalmers, Grant, late 1st rounder for McBuckets
Sixers get McBuckets at the cost of Grant, late 1st rounder, 2nd rounders.
30 Aug 2015 16:18:53
Bulls have Kirk hinrich and brooks. I see them keeping douggie mcbuckets to take over duleavys spot in the future
30 Aug 2015 17:06:30
Sixers pass. Macbuckets has little value after last season. I like him but he isn't worth a first rounder.
30 Aug 2015 17:50:43
Tre, its a late first rounder. Wouldn't you like to see what Stauskas and McBuckets can do from the outside with Okafor drawing the double team in the post?
Since the Bulls used a first rounder to move up to get him, I think they'll need a late first rounder as part of the deal. Otherwise the Sixers would be giving up only Grant and a second rounders for him. That's not enough.
Forgot about Heinrich. He's actually listed on the roster as a shooting guard.
30 Aug 2015 17:52:00
I like mcbuckets as a shooter off the bench, but I think Grant, two second rounders, and a first-round pick is a bit I overpaying. Not hinkies style
30 Aug 2015 19:44:56
Definitely not Hinkie's style. He doesn't trade away first rounders, he collects them. But who knows how he had McBuckets evaluated last year. I know he wanted Stauskas at 10 and could have had McBuckets there buy went for the Saric deal instead. Maybe he thinks he gets another guy he really wanted and makes it happen without the 1st?
31 Aug 2015 03:03:57
Phillyrich. I'm not over paying for a guy who's shown little value. Staukis was almost a throw in the deal due to such a. Weak year. Mc buckets has done pretty much the same. I'd give maybe the Okc pick because that will be very late. That it though. At this point. I like macbuckets for sure but I think I like Covington more to be honest. So I'm not giving up a first for a back up.
To be fair though. I really love the idea of macbuckets. If nothing else he's depth.
31 Aug 2015 13:04:31
How about the Heat get a very restricted 2nd rounder or a eurostash guy nobody's ever heard of (Heat achieve Luxury Tax relief), the Sixers get McBuckets and Anderson (more $ relief for the Heat, Anderson gets waived), the Bulls get Chalmers and the OKC pick?
31 Aug 2015 15:39:41
I think your second idea makes more sense to me. We absorb a salary get a previous draft pick that's under performed. That sounds like a Sixers deal. But we rarely lose first round picks in those deal so the 2 nd instead of a first makes a lot more sense. They also are losing grant which I don't mind terribly as he'll be replaced by macbuckets. That makes sense to me.
30 Aug 2015 14:41:02
SAC get Jusuf Nurkic, Kenneth Faried, Bradley Beal & 2 1st round picks from WAS
DEN get Marcin Gortat & Ben McLemore
WAS get Demarcus Cousins & Randy Foye
SAC get a pretty nice return for Demarcus Cousins, WAS get arguably the best center in the league teaming up with one of the best PG's they could lure Durant next season, DEN get a formidable center and a young athletic shooting guard
30 Aug 2015 15:15:42
Denver needs more
30 Aug 2015 15:19:45
30 Aug 2015 14:35:07
Bulls trade Taj Gibson Tony Snell and the Kings pick for Rudy Gay and Ray McCullom
30 Aug 2015 15:42:02
McCallum is with the Spurs
30 Aug 2015 08:08:14
Terrance Ross for Vince Carter and a 2nd round pick
Pretty simple trade. The Raptors bring VC back to Toronto along with a 2nd. Vince brings veteran leadership to a playoff good eastern team, the Raptors seem to need a vet like him.
The Grizzles add an athletic young wing who is restricted so they get his rights. Let him pan out and possibly resign him for the future. If not they free up 4m next off season when Conley, Lee, and Green who are all FA.
Lowry - Joesph - Wright
Derozan - Powell
Carroll - Carter - Caboloco
Patterson - Scola - Johnson
Valacunias - Biyombo - Nogueria
Conley - Udrith - Smith
Lee - Ross - Adams
Allen - Green - Barnes
Randolph - Stokes - Martin - Green
Gasol - Wright
30 Aug 2015 14:12:51
maybe a 1st not a 2nd?
31 Aug 2015 16:07:22
VC is pretty much cooked. Ross is worth more than him and a second.
30 Aug 2015 06:38:10
Kings get Marcin Gortat, Bradley Beal, and Kelly Oubre
Wizards get Demarcus Cousins and Omri Casspi
Wizards booster their team adding the best center to lure KD in.
Wall, Durant, and Cousins in the east is scary
As for the Kings they get Beals rights and they get a top 10 center locked in for 3 more years plus a good lookin rookie in Oubre. Possibly add a 1st in?
30 Aug 2015 18:30:14
Sac would need a draft pick as well
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