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21 Feb 2018 06:23:45

MIN get Dario Saric

PHI get Andrew Wiggins

add in some more pieces if needed

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21 Feb 2018 06:13:15
POR/PHI blockbuster

POR get Markelle Fultz, Dario Saric, Jerryd Bayless & LAL pick 2018 (if BOS gets this, they trade own pick & 2 2nd round picks or maybe 2020 1st own)

draft Kevin Knox & Khyri Thomas

Pg Fultz/Bayless/Thomas
Sg McCollum/Connaughton
Sf Harkless/Knox/Turner
Pf Saric/Aminu/Swanigan
Ce Nurkic/Collins

PHI get Damian Lillard & Myers Leonard

long shot but sign Paul George 2yr max with 2nd yr player option
sign Avery Bradley 3yr/42mil
resign Johnson & Bellineli

Pg Lillard/McConnell
Sg Bradley/Bellineli
Sf George/Covington/Luwawu
Pf Simmons/Leonard
Ce Embiid/Johnson/Holmes

POR isn't going anywhere but a mediocre western team, they cannot compete now with the heavyweights and should just rebuild with young guys

for PHI, it's time to take the process to the next level, getting all stars to pair with their young combo of Simmons and Embiid would be scary. With LeBron's future not sure in Cleveland (he's aging too), maybe it will be a toss between Celtics and Sixers in the East for the next few years

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21 Feb 2018 06:34:12
It's not terrible, Saric is a bonus, pick is quality.

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21 Feb 2018 08:26:13
Tha Philly team is scary

But Portland had a bad history with injuries. (Walton, S bowie, G Oden, B Roy) . i'm not sure they should take the risk.

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21 Feb 2018 05:06:31

Phoenix get Damian Lillard & Luol Deng

Blazers get Lonzo Ball, Brandon Knight & Suns 1st round pick

Lakers get Tyson Chandler & Blazers 1st round pick

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21 Feb 2018 05:28:04
I guess no matter what, POR is just going to get a bad contract for Lillard. I don't see how, but it's the trend. And POR gives up a first too?

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21 Feb 2018 05:33:45
If I'm Lakers only trading ball or Ingram for a Jimmy Butler, Leonard, or klay Thompson not to dump Deng. Lakers can stretch Deng or give up two first round picks to dump him. Not give up there future for 7 MIL extra in cap. If Lakers stretch Deng it only hits 7 MIL a year for next six years.

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21 Feb 2018 06:04:25
If I'm the blazers I want nothing to do with that Ball family. Especially giving up Lillard that's ridiculous.

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21 Feb 2018 08:21:22
LA should trade Ball, Deng and Ingram in a package for a star.

Portland should get more

And I believe Mccollum would be better for Phoenix.

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20 Feb 2018 18:34:29
LA: D Lillard


Portland: Ball+ Ingram+Isaac+Deng+T Ross+1rnd pick OKC 2020(from Orlando)

Portland starts a rebuilt arround Ball, Ingram, Isaac and Collins, going after Bol Bol or Zion Williams next year.

The Lakers can sign two extra max contracts. P George and LBJ?

Orlando resigns A Gordon and can start winning with a descent core: A Gordon, McCollum, vucevic, Fournier and J Simmons

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20 Feb 2018 19:00:48
POR receives too little in return for their 2 star players.

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20 Feb 2018 20:18:33
If both teams add two first it would work. Lakers can sign 3 stars if they 2 to 3 mil less and have mle for Noel. George James and Durant plus Lillard and use mle on Noel. Kinda 6th man. Crazy Laker fan.

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20 Feb 2018 23:55:36
POR is in real trouble if this is the best they will get for their 2 stars. Team loyal fans on here post the stars they want to keep will take less when the contract is up, are worth ten times more when they want to trade them, and 2 1st round, 1 lottery to take Deng. What happened here?

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21 Feb 2018 00:52:22
I think this is a great deal for Portland, it's Always the short term traders that lose and the long term investers that win.

Portland isn't going to play for a title and is over the cap and the tandem McCollum Lillard isn't working. Portland should trade McCollum, but there're to many good pointguards in the NBA, only a few teams would be interested (Phoenix, Orlando, .? ) . The return would be to low to make Portland a contender. So that's why Portland should trade both players, for young talents and start a full rebuilt.

This trade give them time.
You can dislike his father, but Ball is a talent.
C: Bol Bol
PF: Z Collins
Sf: Isaac
SG: Ingram
PG: Ball
They can have four all stars in a few years.

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21 Feb 2018 04:09:35
I'm not surprised you think it's a great deal for POR Gasupo, we are all aware of your love for the Pacers, and empathy for other teams, their fans, and players. Plus its your post.

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21 Feb 2018 08:22:38
So what's your problem jorgawood?

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20 Feb 2018 16:45:07
Magic Offseason-

1. Fire Frank Vogel, fire entire front office.

2. Hire Chris Fleming as the new head coach. He is the current Nets Assistant coach and the Brooklyn is having a more successful season than expected. Still a bottom five team but they have shown some signs of growth this season. He also worked overseas for 15 years where he racked up championships in Germany.

3. Hire David Griffin (former Cavs GM) as their new GM to begin full rebuild.

4. Draft night trade:

Magic Receive-8th overall pick (projected), 47th overall pick (projected), and Cameron Payne

Bulls Receive- 4th overall pick, Shelvin Mack

5. Magic draft:
-Collin Sexton (pg) with the 8th overall pick (projected)

-Kenrich Williams (sf) with the 40th overall pick (projected)

-Goga Bitadze (c) with the 47th overall pick (projected)

6. Assign Williams and Bitadze to the G-League

7. Resign Aaron Gordon to a maximum contract

8. Trade:

Magic Receive: Andre Roberson, Alex Abrines, 2020 top 8 protected first round pick, 2019 second round pick

Thunder Receive: Evan Fournier

9. Sign Seth Curry to a 1 year 8 million dollar contract
-He will be a nice starting shooting guard to get buckets

10. Sign Ersan Illyasova to the veterans minimum

11. Resign Aaron Afflalo and Mo Speights

2018-2019 Starting Lineup

1-Collin Sexton/Cameron Payne/D.J Augustin
2-Seth Curry/Terrance Ross/Aaron Afflalo
3-Jonathan Issac/Jonaton Simmons/Wesley Iwundu
4-Aaron Gordon/Mo Speights/Ersan Ilyasova
5-Nikola Vucevic/Bismack Biyombo

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20 Feb 2018 17:14:39
I don't like the trade. Moving up 4 spots at that part of the draft should cost the Bulls more than Payne, who's been a non factor on a bad team and a 2nd. I don't think it should be as much as Philly gave up to go 3 to 1, but either a lottery protected pick or a young player with starting potential.

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20 Feb 2018 18:31:21
1, they just hired an all new front office last year, and were strapped from the previous regime. Hammond has done a good job everywhere he went, and just needs time to change the direction. Also Orlando has had too many coaches in the past decade, no need to change.

2, They went the young hot assistant route already.

3, Griffin did nothing with arguably the best player ever.

4, Should be self explanatory, but that's just bad.

5, 4th (or better) Young has more upside and better scorer.

6, whew

7, I like Gordon. He's the only player close to stardom. Not worth a max though.

8, we already own their pick

9, no need unless you find another trade

10, ok I guess. Think he'd rather contribute on a winning team if making less, than sitting 3rd on a losing bench

11, Afflalo hasn't done anything for this team, not even as mentorship goes.

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20 Feb 2018 22:15:04
Cam Payne is not a sweetener to move down four spots for.

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21 Feb 2018 02:29:44
David Griffin won a chip with Lebron buddy.

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21 Feb 2018 02:34:03
football father I have trouble seeing what you're saying, Aaron Gordon is the only player that they have on the team. They need to pay him. Tre Young is a massive defensive liability and there is a lot of question about how he will fair in the NBA. Collin Sexton is built, athletic, a great defender and passer AND he can shoot. Afflalo is just their to fill up a roster spot and he is a good mentor. You literally are an amateur when it comes to basketball knowledge. Bye-Bye!

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21 Feb 2018 02:34:39
Triangle O Cam Payne is a young player and the pick is the focal point of the deal.

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21 Feb 2018 04:59:44
Tostitochip, be real man. If you think that Cam Payne gets you a chance to move up four spots, then I would love to sell you Patti Mills for pick 8 alone.

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20 Feb 2018 09:05:52
Cle: 1rnd pick Memphis+ C Parsons
Mem: K Love

Sign an trade
LA: LBJ+ Korver
Cle: Deng+Ingram

spurs: G Hill
Cle: P Mills+ 2rnd pick 2019

Cle: Draft: T Young and Bamba (or Doncic when still available)
resign Hood

C: Bamba/T Thompson
PF: Nance/Zizic/C Parsons
SG:Ingram/Clarckson/JR Smith
PG: Young/clarckson/P Mills

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20 Feb 2018 16:44:00
Absolutely nonsense.

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20 Feb 2018 17:20:21
I don't get the Trae Young pick. He's undersized, and his defense is terrible at the college level.

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20 Feb 2018 17:21:31
I can't see the Lakers giving up Ingram. I think it's more like that if a sign and trade like this happened it would be mutiple future firsts and maybe a guy like Hart.

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20 Feb 2018 22:17:18
Trades 1 and 3 are terrible for Cleveland, and if LBJ really wants to go to LA, I think he would rather take the Lakers Max they can offer and keep Ingram around.

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21 Feb 2018 04:59:35
If LBJ goes to LA, he will keep Ingram and trade him for a star just like what he did to Wiggins. He is an instant co-GM.

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20 Feb 2018 08:44:08
Miami: J Butler

Minny: D Lillard

Port: Adebayo+ winslow+J Richardson

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20 Feb 2018 15:52:47
Bam is a nice rookie, but there’s no way he alone has the value of Lillard. Not even close. Without a lottery pick to go with him, I can’t see this ever coming close to happening.

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20 Feb 2018 16:29:37
I can see Portland doing this, if they start a full rebuilt.
Maybe trading McCollumm to Phoenix for draft picks.

Portland could win this trade, both Adebayo and Winslow could be stars and Richardson is developing fast.

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20 Feb 2018 17:26:38
I guess they have kept Nurkic all this time to continue to create a glut of centers? Not a very good move. Myers Leonard is not very tradeable, and Zach Collins is pretty good. Not making a lot of sense, but I guess we are talking about a team that paid Turner 17 mil, Harkless 10 mil, and M. Leonard 10. Didn't deal E. Davis or Swanigan either.

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20 Feb 2018 17:36:47
Cmon, really? Winslow could be a star? I guess Pat Connaughton could be a star too.

And Richardson is the kind of guy you don’t want in a rebuild. He’s a nice role player that helps win games, but he’s not good enough to build around. Lose lose scenario.

Lillard is locked in long term and he’s still young, his value is incredibly high.

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20 Feb 2018 01:50:22
Chicago Bulls


Chicago get 2nd rd pick (protected)

Brooklyn get Cameron Payne, Robin Lopez & 2nd rd pick

Chicago signings

Rodney Hood- 4yr/80mil, can Cavs match? maybe more

Marcus Smart- 3yr/40mil

draft Mohamed Bamba



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20 Feb 2018 05:43:18
Why would they give away rolo for a pick swap in the second round. They can get more for him next year at the deadline as an expiring or on draft night as a combo with a draft pick to move up potentially.

Also j believe smart is redundant with Dunn without as much upside and if you sign him long term you have to think long and hard before signing Dunn in 2 years.

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20 Feb 2018 19:51:59
R. Lopez could be useful in a deadline deal, but I wouldn't be surprised if they buy him out this summer. It's reasonable to buy him out for 7-10 mil, and let him possibly sign with another team. Lots of big guys available. Could draft one too. Lopez, and Payne, and a 2nd for a better 2nd isn't too bad. Saves money from buy-out, or carrying for half a season.

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20 Feb 2018 01:38:31
Orlando Magic


Orlando get highly protected 2nd round pick

Atlanta get Terrence Ross, Shelvin Mack & future protected 1st round pick

Orlando sign Isaiah Thomas 2yr/37mil 2nd year team option

sign Avery Bradley 3yr/48mil

Those guys played well together when they are in Celtics, think they could really improve the Orlando Magic

draft PG Trae Young with the 5th overall pick



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20 Feb 2018 07:48:50
1st thing for Magic in the offseason is to sack the entire front office.

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20 Feb 2018 19:55:04
Why is Bradley getting 16 mil? Harkless is considered nearly untradeable @ 10? Bradley better up his game in the off season.

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20 Feb 2018 01:25:04
MIN/POR offseason blockbuster

MIN get Damian Lillard, Moe Harkless & Myers Leonard
sign Wayne Ellington

Pg Lillard/Jones
Sg Butler/Crawford
Sf Harkless/Ellington
Pf Gibson/Bjelica
Ce Towns/Dieng/Patton

POR get Jeff Teague, Andrew Wiggins (s&t), Cole Aldrich, Shabbaz Muhammad & 2018 1st round pick

Pg Teague/Napier
Sg McCollum/Turner/Connaughton
Sf Wiggins/Muhammad
Pf Aminu/Collins
Ce Nurkic/Aldrich

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20 Feb 2018 08:08:22
I like this trade for bothe teams.
Only not sure Minny can handle all that salary.

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20 Feb 2018 19:19:50
POR would be looking to start rebuilding if Lillard was dealt. This isn't a very good start. Aging Teague, and so far underperforming Wiggins. POR, I get on here all the time needs to shed salary to sign Nurkic? I don't agree with that sentiment, but this doesn't look very appealing to POR long term with a loss of Lillard.

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