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01 Mar 2015 21:02:24
I made a Lakers offseason scenario a few weeks back (different account), and I don't quite remember all of the details-however I do remember I received a lot of positive feedback from not just my fellow Lakers fans, but from NBA fans as well. So here is another Lakers offseason scenario, more detailed with cap and contract notes. Enjoy
1. Draft day
IF and only IF the Lakers are able to keep their top 5 pick, let's say based off of mock drafts, they get pick #4; I think they should make this trade:
Lakers receive: Trey Burke (2.6M in 2016), Jazz possible 8th pick
Jazz receive: Lakers possible 4th pick
-Jazz already benched Burke in favors of Dante Exum. Next season, they will be getting back Alec Burks, who was seen to be the 6th man of the Jazz, a role and the position Burke is in. With the 4th pick, they have the possibility to get better by drafting D'Angelo Russell or Mudiay to be their future PG, and have the interchangeable back court.
Lakers Draft: Willy Cauley-Stein
2. Free Agency (available 30M)
Lakers have 30M available to spend BEFORE picking up the options of Jordan Clarkson, Tarik Black, Jordan Hill and the trade I mentioned above however the Lakers have trade exceptions worth nearly 3M (possibly expired).
Weaknesses: defense, wing scoring
-Jimmy Butler (4y, 80m)
*Before Bulls fans start to say "He's staying" "Chicago is offering him the max" "He wants to stay in Chicago". Look at what's unfolding in your franchise. Your MVP point guard injures his knee EVERY season for the past 3-4 years! In other words, you guys are in a grey state: not a contending team and not a bad team. The Clippers of the East. You guys have a 61M payroll next season, the cap is expected to jump to 67M. The 61M payroll does not include the contracts of Kirk Hinrich (PO) and Aron Brooks (UFA) meaning you must either re-sign them or replace them. Even if you trade away Gibson (8.5M), that would place you guys at 53M, matching any max contract would place the Bulls salary above 75M. The expected luxury line is 77M. Is he worth limiting your movement or should you guys just try to go after Wes Mathews and develop Snell/Doug? It's just a scenario so don't panic.
-Rajon Rondo (3y, 33m - 1m less than current contract)
*Very possible, Kobe plans to recruit him heavily, and that spat with Carlisle isn't helping anything. I'm sure that wouldn't be the sole reason he leaves, but like I said, it surely doesn't help. Scott would give him freedom on offense as long as he defends because Scott has horrible offense strategy
-Ed Davis (2y, 8m)
Pick up TOs
*Sadly, Robert Sacre would have to be let go (money, his contract steadily increases) and Jordan Hill would cost too much to keep--Lakers would have less money to spend
PG: Rajon Rondo/Trey Burke
SG: Kobe Bryant/Jordan Clarkson/(Rockets pick)
SF: Jimmy Butler/Nick Young/(Rockets pick)
PF: Julius Randle/Ryan Kelly/Tarik Black
C: Willy Cauley-Stein/Ed Davis
-Rajon Rondo can make Cauley-Stein look like gold. a lot of lobs and easy baskets around the rim
-Trey Burke can be what Reggie Jackson was for OKC, except no one will blame him (maybe Kobe, jk)
-Lakers get a shot blocker, which is what they desperately needed.
-Front court chemistry with Randle and Cauley-Stein
-Good all around balance of defense/offense
I said the Lakers had 30M to spend, with all additions, they would have spent nearly 36M, Meaning they are 6M over but not entirely over the luxury line.
01 Mar 2015 19:31:57
Draft- Towns ( assuming Wolves don't get lucky)
Budinger opts out ( he has said he wants to move on)
Let Neal walk
Trade Bennett if possible(doubt this will happen)
Resign KG at 2yr/18-20 million (should be willing to take a paycut to help team get better)
Rubio's salary jumps next year but they should still have some money
Sign either shumpert or Kj McDaniels
Sign Nelson as a mentor to Lavine and Rubio, as well as a solid backup
Martin/Shumpert or McDaniels
Good mix of vets and potential with the ability to contend within a year or two. Comments?
Kg would not get a 2 year 18-20 million he would get maybe a 2 year 7 million tops. Also no way he would start over Towns
Celtics 4 life
KG would still want his money, but if he takes less, even better, and he would most definitely start over Towns because Towns is still a very raw player
01 Mar 2015 18:48:30
CLE: A. Bradley, E. Turner
BOS: B. Haywood, J. Harris, 2nd rd. pick
Cleveland gets an upgrade at backup PG over Dellavadova as well as a replacement at backup SF for Marion who is retiring at the end of the year.
The big piece for Boston is actually Haywood whose $10.5 mil contract for next season is not guaranteed so they could cut him and it wouldn't count against the cap. This would allow them to shed the contracts of Bradley and Turner and pick up an inexpensive nice young shooter in Harris and a 2nd rd. pick just to sweeten the pot a little more.
PG: K. Irving/A. Bradley
SG: I. Shumpert/J.R Smith
SF: L. James/E. Turner
PF: K. Love/T. Thompson
C: T. Mozgov/A. Varejao
Why would the celtics do this when they are trying to get into the playoffs
Celtics 4 life
01 Mar 2015 17:37:06
Orlando get Gerald Green
Phoenix get Channing Frye
ORL overpaid him. now they're stuck with him.
01 Mar 2015 17:34:41
New Orleans get Gerald Green and Brook Lopez
Brooklyn get Eric Gordon , PJ Tucker and Ryan Anderson
Phoenix get Joe Johnson and Omer Asik (st)
Jrue Holiday/Norris Cole
Tyreke Evans/Jimmer Freddete
Gerald Green/Quincy Pondexter/Luke Babbitt
Anthony Davis/Dante Cunningham
Brook Lopez/Alexis Ajinca/Jeff Whitey
Deron Williams/Jarrett Jack/Markel Brown
Eric Gordon/PJ Tucker/Alan Anderson
Thad Young/Bojan Bogdanovic/Sergey Karasev
Ryan Anderson/Jerome Jordan
Mason Plumlee/Corey Jefferson
Eric Bledsoe/Brandon Knight/Archie Goodwin
Brandon Knight/Reggie Bullock/Joe Johnson
Joe Johnson/Danny Granger/Marcus Morris
Markieff Morris/Marcus Morris
Omer Asik/Alex Len
01 Mar 2015 15:10:06
Knicks big moves to make huge noise next season
draft day megadeal
Receive : Demarcus Cousins from Sacramento
Send : 1st overall pick (JahLil Okafor) and Jose Calderon
sign SF/PF Tobias Harris
sign PG Mo Williams
PG : Mo Williams , Langston Galloway
SG : Tim Hardaway Jr , Thanasis Antetokounmpo
SF : Carmelo Anthony , Cleanthony Early
PF : Tobias Harris , Quincy Acy
CE : DeMarcus Cousins , Cole Aldrich
- retool when needed within the season and get a completely balnced roster , they can trade Hardaway for a defensive 2
Sign wesley matthews to have hardaway comin off thhe bench
The DMC deal is pretty good, and adding Harris makes sense, but no thanks to Mo being the starting PG.
01 Mar 2015 14:58:51
SAC get Taj Gibson , Joakim Noah , Jeremy Lamb and their pick back
CHI get Kevin Durant and Enes Kanter
OKC get DeMarcus Cousins and Jimmy Butler
01 Mar 2015 14:38:15
Min trade Nikola Pekovic , Shabbaz Muhammad
Min get Jared Sullinger , Nik Stauskas
Bos trade Jared Sullinger , Marcus Smart , 2 1st round picks
Bos get DeMarcus Cousins
Sac trade DeMarcus Cousins , Nik Stauskas
Sac get Marcus Smart , Shabbaz Muhammad , Nikola Pekovic and 2 1st from Boston
Celtics pull a big offseason
- sign Paul Millsap and Paul Pierce back for one more run
Celtics 2015-16 season
I. Thomas / P. Pressey / T. Jones (draft)
A. Bradley / E. Turner
P. Pierce / J. Young / G. Wallace
P. Millsap / K. Olynyk
D. Cousins / T. Zeller
01 Mar 2015 18:33:34
LOL Minnesota laughs and says no
01 Mar 2015 14:17:27
Lakers get Demarcus Cousins and Nik Stauskas
Kings get Denver's 1st round pick , Ty Lawson and Kenneth Faried and Jordan Hill
Nuggets get Lakers' 1st round pick , Darren Collison and Julius Randle
Lakers sign Rajon Rondo and Demarre Carroll
R. Rondo / J. Clarkson
K. Bryant / N. Stauskas / W. Ellington
D. Carroll / N. Young
E. Davis / Rockets pick / R. Kelly
D. Cousins / R. Sacre
Kings select Williey Cauley-Stein and Justice Winslow
T. Lawson / R. McCallum
B. McLemore / J. Winslow
R. Gay / O. Casspi
K. Faried / C. Landry
W. Cauley-Stein / J. Hill / J. Thompson
Nuggets select D' Angelo Russell
D. Collison / J. Nelson
D. Russell / G. Harris / R. Foye
W. Chandler / D. Gallinari
J. Randle / J. Hickson
J. Nurkic / D. Arthur / J. Lauvergne
01 Mar 2015 09:25:51
Blockbuster trade at Draft Day
Nuggets trade Lawson, Faried, Nelson
Nuggets get Collison, Bennett, Muhammad, Wolves unprotected 1st round pick 2015, Kings 2nd round pick 2015 no protection
Kings trade Cousins, Collison, Thompson, 2nd round pick 2015 no protection
Kings get Lawson, Faried, Pekovic
Wolves trade 1st round pick 2015 unprotected, Pekovic, Bennett, Muhammad
Wolves get Cousins, Nelson, Thompson (use Love trade exception)
- immediat cap relief
- to compete in deep and talented western conference Nuggets needs a complete rebuild
- 2015 Draft: 2 x 1st round picks and 2 x 2nd round picks
- draft best avaible talents to play with Nurkic: PF + SF/SG/PG
- add a high draft pick in 2016, very good cap situation(flexibility) and Nuggets will have a talented roster to build around
- with own pick go after best possible talent 1.Okafor, 2.Towns, 3.Mudiay, 4. Turner
- get immediat cap relief
- perfect lineup for coach Karl's up-tempo system
- big 3 Rubio-Wiggins-Cousins + shooter Martin, veteran KG, shasher LaVine and shot-blocker Dieng
- huge cap space 2017 to go after major FA like Westbrook: Rubio-Westbrook-Wiggins-Cousins-Dieng = Dynasty
Don't like the idea of giving up a lot of pieces for Cousins, sure he is good, but how much happier is he going to be in Minnesota? Plus the Wolves would not go after Westbrook because he would not fit in well with Rubio
01 Mar 2015 08:20:37
Wolves Off-Season 2015/16
draft pick 1-3: PF/C Towns
trade Budinger and #33 pick 2015 for future 2nd
FA: sign vet PG
solid cap flexibilty
contender within 1-2 years
+ Martin, Pekovic, Muhammad
talent, athletic, defense, scoring, shooting
01 Mar 2015 18:40:49
Sooooo why would the wolves trade a decent role player(Budinger) and the best second rounder you can get for a future second that can't be better than the one they traded??
They would give away that pick because Budinger has not been a quality role player worth 5mil and would need to provide incentive for someone to take him, of course this whole scenario only works if Budingrr opts in on his player option, which is unlikely because he wants to leave
28 Feb 2015 23:55:05
OKC offseason plan
Wizards get Kevin Durant and Jeremy Lamb
Kings get Nene, Otto Porter, Perry Jones, and 2017 WAS 1st round pick
Thunder get Bradley Beal, Rudy Gay, Ramon Sessions, and 2015 WAS 1st rd pick
PF. Ibaka/ McGary/ Cliff Alexander (DP)
SF. Gay/ Singler/ Roberson
C. Kanter/ Adams/ Collison
SG. Beal/ Waiters/ Morrow
Pg. Westbrook/ Augustine/ Sessions
28 Feb 2015 22:32:43
Sixers draft 1st round plans:
Our 1st- deangelo russell
Heat 1st- jerian grant
Trade saric and sims to get bobby portis and 2nd round pick
Thunder 1st- Trey Lyles
I don't think there's a star potential player in anyone of those guys. I need more of a risk with our first pick. Mudiay I think would be best. Good news is he might fall too. Hasn't pkayed in so long people might have forgotten he was the concensious number two pick behind okafor for the begining of the season. Then he stopped playing and all of a sudden has dropped possibly out of the top four.
Russel on the other hand was a project late first rounder and even though his play has been excellent I just can't ignore that. How can a guy a late first jump to a top three pick in half a season??
So i'm going to take risks and make trades so I get at least two potential stars in this draft. I want mudiay and Stanley Johnson if possible. Johnson would require a trade of probably Miami pick and okc pick.
28 Feb 2015 21:49:16
Never would happen but is it fair?
Lal gets Paul George and David West
Clarkson/ (draft) Tyus Jones
Ind gets Lin, Martin, Randle, Lavine, Muhammad, Kelly (waive)
Min gets Steve Nash(waive), Tarik Black, 2015 LAL first (Johnson), 2015 Ind first (Winslow) and draft with own(Towns)
Wiggins/ Robinson III
Lakers get a superstar to pair up with Bryant and could even be championship contenders if they sign Gasol. Pacers get a lot of young talented pieces to make their team better all around. Minnesota gets 3(if the pacers don't make the playoffs) lottery picks and become a playoff contender in the next 2 years and they save a ton of money to bring in a big time FA like Deandre Jordan
Terrible trade for Wolves. If Wiggins continues to develop like this than they are only 1-2 years away from competing. This sets them back quite a bit.
28 Feb 2015 20:24:02
Sixers get Giannis
Bucks get Noel
Ugh as a sixer fan that trade hurts but it's tempting as heck. Noel is playing very well especially of late. Developed a jump shot. And is now finishing much better at the rim. Defensively he's always been a stud but he's improved even that part of his game.
Both are young guys that are improving. But I'm keeping noel. He's a lot of upside and is already in Philadelphia so he's used to how the team and coaches are. But this trade is interesting so good job.
People are overrating giannis. I would say sixers pass. Noel is a better rebounder and defensive player.
This trade is very interesting, but at the end of the day I don't think either team improves a great deal. Both guys are very young, and showing improvement. Both teams say NO, but its a fair trade.
Giannis is a 6'11 beast with crazy potential
Celtics 4 life
28 Feb 2015 19:20:21
PG : Goran Dragic (he will be at his best playing for a team he wants)
SF : DeMarre Carroll (not a big name but he is a 3 and D SF who has a lot of energy in him)
CE : Marc Gasol (a long shot yes but they could try to land him)
PG/SG : D'Angelo Russell (could be their future SG to pair with Dragic and Clarkson)
SF : Sam Dekker (can provide some shooting off the bench)
PF/CE : Ed Davis (provides a lot of energy especially on defense, rim protection behind Marc Gasol)
PG : Goran Dragic / Jordan Clarkson
SG : Kobe Bryant / D'Angelo Russell
SF : DeMarre Carroll / Nick Young / Sam Dekker
PF : Julius Randle / Ed Davis / Ryan Kelly
CE : Marc Gasol / Robert Sacre
* I know that signing Marc Gasol is a very hard thing to accomplish but if they get him , this surely be a competitive team. With the starting line-up looks amazing , the bench has such a very pure energy.
Lakers is going to have about $24-25M cap space. They will be lucky if they acquire Dragic and Carroll only.
I don't c marc gasol leaving memphis
I believe Dragic will be back in Miami. They're not going to give 2 1st for a rental. They wanna build a solid team around him over the next 5 seasons.
Carroll is a nice signing and can happen. Lakers biggest need is a perimeter defender.
Gasol isn't happening.
I think Rajon Rondo, Demarre Carroll, and Omer Asik is more likely to happen
Rondo / Clarkson
Kobe / Russell
Carroll / Young
Boozer / Randle
Asik / Davis
If they can land Asik and Rondo they should draft best sf in draft. I don't think Carroll will not resign with Hawks. Moreover let Booz walk. Go with Randle, Hill and Davis.
28 Feb 2015 18:37:38
Knicks draft Emmanuel Mudiay
young big men
- sign Tobias Harris , Greg Monroe
- sign Emeka Okafor , Brandon Bass , Rodney Stuckey
E. Mudiay / J. Calderon
R. Stuckey / T. Hardaway / L. Galloway
C. Anthony / C. Early / T. Antetokounmpo
T. Harris / B. Bass
G. Monroe / E. Okafor / C. Aldrich
28 Feb 2015 18:20:57
Lawson and Faried for NY 1st (as long as it falls top 3) and THJ
Nuggets remove final good players and work in a total restart.
If the Knicks want to have a good team well Melo is a factor they cannot rely on FA and that Monroe and other FA will join them without a solid core.
Jackson can make a better pitch to the FA and be relevant next year.
succeed and proceed
Heres the issue with this post. the knicks would be idiots to do it. If they get the 1st, they would be able to get Okafor, on a rookies salary, then sign someone like Greg Monroe, who is actually better than Faried for about the same price. Then they can turn to a pg, someone like Rondo, Dragic, as well as 1 or 2 others that may be available. The knicks making this trade would basically be giving away a starting sg and c, which costs them less than half as much as either player they get annnnd they are now left with gaping holes and little money to fill them
I don't think its a good move for nuggets they need more
28 Feb 2015 16:14:24
Denver get George Hill and Pacers 2nd
- Shaw wants Hill , if he's not enough Pacers could give another 2nd or a young player
Sacramento get Ty Lawson , Roy Hibbert and Pacers 1st
- Karl wants Lawson and he make Cousins available , they get Hibbert to anchor the D.
- off season sign PF starting caliber (Millsap?)
Lawson , Collison , McCallum
McLemore , Stauskas
Gay , Casspi , Pacers pick
Millsap or any FA , Thompson
Hibbert , Evans , Hollins
Indiana get DeMarcus Cousins
- Pacers get 2nd superstar
- sign Goran Dragic or any FA pg
Dragic , Sloan , Watson
Miles , Stuckey
George , Hill
West , Rudez
Cousins , Scola , Mahinmi
28 Feb 2015 17:59:59
no way I trade Cousins for Lawson and Hibbert.
28 Feb 2015 15:52:23
Boston-Oklahoma City-Sacramento mega deal
Boston recive Kevin Durant , Jason Thompson
Oklahoma receive DeMarcus Cousins , 2 1st round picks from Boston and James Young
Sacramento get Enes Kanter , 1st from Celtics , Kelly Olynyk and cash from Boston
Have to laugh at this post.
Yeah, sacremento seems like they def want to get rid of a top 3 center, that's 24, and a beast. for 2 mediocre prospects and a draft pick. great trade.
28 Feb 2015 15:49:10
Sixers get DeMarcus Cousins , Wilson Chandler and Gary Harris
Kings get Ty Lawson and Joel Embiid
Nuggets get OKC pick , Miami pick , Darren Collison
This seems to be a bit of a "force fit". sixers say no. not that the value isn't worth it, timing is just wrong to bring cousins over to buy into the player development and rebuild. you can have embiid and noel wrapped up for 3 years for the price of 1 year of cousins. just doesn't make sense.
Sixers say hell no. Two 1st round picks plus embiid for cousins and two crappy players is a hell no. Just forget about cousins going to philly because it ain't happening. Trade him to the lakers or knicks that's more believable.
Hahaha what in the world has embiid done to warrant all this holier than thou nonsense? he is NOT olajowon. You get a lottery draft pick in harris, wilson chandler which is a very solid player. AND a top 2 center that has actually played a minute in the league. simmer down with this embiid is the best prospect ever. So was oden, howd that turn out?
Pizza. Honestly since your not from here you may not have seen any of his practices. He's actually an above average to excellent shooter and his body has actually gotten even bigger. Not fatter as some reports may have said. He's about 270 right now and its all muscle. Freaky really. Sixers got to let his body adjust to all This new muscle before he plays. Three years ago he weighed maybe 200 pounds. He looks like a natural " a guy who doesn't need any training". A freak big that the NBA hasn't seen for a while. Everything he tries he can do.
That's why we don't want to trade him. Mostly how fast he's deveoped. Most guys don't get this good practicing there entire careers. not to mention he's in a 7 foot 270 body which is rare on its own.
Oden is oden. Embiid is much better than oden obviously. Everyone should just stop comparing people to others because nobody is the same. Oden was the 1st pick because blazers r f in stupid and could have gotten durant who went 2nd overall
And embiid doesn't have to be olojuwon to be a great player.
28 Feb 2015 10:27:06
Boston and Orlando
Boston get Harkless
Orlando get Young
28 Feb 2015 04:36:45
1. KEEP Nerlens Noel. 14 pts, 13 rebs, 3 blks, 2 stls tonight in win vs Wiz. Starting to put groups of good games together.
2. KEEP Joel Embiid. This guy is the real deal. Paired with Noel, awesome rim protection, and he really does have post moves like Olajiwoun. He's going to be an AllStar.
3. Find some way to get Saric over for next year. He's a stud at 6'10". Outstanding passer, solid shooter, always in the right place at the right time.
4. Draft DeAngelo Russell. Whoever thinks he's going to be a bust, I just don't get it. NBA execs love him, and he can handle the ball, shoot the 3, and is an incredible passer.
5. Package Miami's #1(12-16), and OKC's #1(19-21) to move up and pick Hezonja(possibly to Utah, Bos, Indy, Det). He can light it up, and can play surprisingly good "D".
C: Embiid, Noel, Sims
PF: Noel, Saric, T.Robinson
SF: Covington, Saric, Grant
SG: Hezonja, McCrae, Rusell, Wroten,
PG: Russell, Canaan, P.Jackson, Wroten
Plus, still have 5 second round picks to work with(Orlando's and Denver's having some value, both in the #35-37 range. Also have Lakers #1 next year, only 1-3 protected. May luck out and have that pick fall to us at #6 or 7 this year. If that happens, draft Hezonja with LA's pick, Kaminsky with Miami's pick, and Grant, Lyles, Wright, Dunn or Portis with OKC's pick.
Saric is slow at 3, weak at 4. I think he should play one more year in Europe.
Sounds great. But philly gm will trade everyone away looking for the next best thing. I'm from philly. They won't win until heinke is gone. Sorry
I like what u said about sixers plans but i'm just not liking deangelo russell. I like mudiay and jerian. i'm just iffey on ohio st players
Go 76ers. as a HUGE sixers fan for 30 years, I can understand the uneasiness with an ohio state guard(see evan "stomach" turner). But, imo, Russell is just a perfect fit. Embiid and Russell will be awesome together.
I am a Turkish basketball fan and living in Istanbul where Saric's team, Anadolu Efes, is located in. I don't know but some fans are overrating him. He isn't even the best power forward in Turkish Basketball League. Fenerbahce's Nemanja Bjelica, 25, is the best 4, both in Turkey and Europe, whose rights belong to Timberwolves. I mean, first he should be the best PF in Europe before playing in NBA, like Mirotic. That's why I said he should play one more year in Europe in order to have more polished game and NBA-ready body.
Im not saying that your wrong. Maybe russell will be really good but I just don't c it yet. Who knows until it happens. Maybe sixers will draft russell and mudiay/or jerian.
sixers pick Russell with their own pick and Jerian Grant with the Miami pick(11-16). I could see that developing into a exciting young backcourt.
I like it, jvoug. Especially keeping Noel and Joel. They will be the cornerstones for years. We can add Russell or Stanley Johnson early. And Portis or Kaminsky later. Next year 2-3 more first round picks. So, do not despair, faithful. There will come a point at which Hinkie will decide it's time to let it run. I think that time will be midway through next season. And in 2016-17 we will be a solid contender. Then we'll start looking to sign free agents.
I'd rather have mudiay then Russell. I need star potential and explosiveness. Russel just lacks the It factor from what I've seen. He uses his height a lot and in the NBA that just won't be there anymore. ( either the other guards are tall like him or much more athletic) Granted only seen the games they show on normal tv. Mudiay I haven't seen anything but highlights and low lights in YouTube clips. But I like a lot of what I've seen. Explosiveness for sure and he's the better shot creator which I think the Sixers could use even with noel playing better and joel coming back next year. Soi love your ideas but would like mudiay over russel for now. Wouldn't mind Stanley Johnson or a small forward if we move up either so that's fine with the euro there too.
What about sixers trade sims and saric for bobby portis and a 2nd round pick. he's going to be a stud in the nba. i'm tellin u he's going to be a steal and can possibly be the best big man in this years draft. And also draft russell and jerian. that's going to be our future right there. Then mcrae comes to philly to split time with covington at small forward.
I do like how russell is a lefty.
U don't want stanley. Trust me on that. In the very beginning of the season I wanted him. But now I don't c him fitting in with us and our future plans. And don't forget about jordan mcrae. He has some serious potential and will be a great small forward for us.
But let's be honest. I really think the sixers will pass on russell and get mudiay.
I do believe Embiid wasn't a projected lottery pick in the beginning of last years college basketball season but he made the jump to the top of the lottery. we can agree to disagree on either russell or mudiay, but keeping noel and embiid is crucial.
27 Feb 2015 21:11:21
Draft backup center with hou pick
Rondo 4y 56m
Harris 3y 45m
Randle would start I don't know why you always have him on the bench
Celtics 4 life
This post is getting stale, every Lakers offseason post is the same thing.
Dollars to dollars, Harris will end up in New York, and why you would want Rondo right now is beyond me.
^^^^he got to earn the starting spot
Lakers should pass on Rondo. Let Clarkson develop or draft Mudiay or Russell.
Throw money at Love, Aldridge, Or Gasol.
If they don't get one of them save your money for next season and look at Durant or Noah.
27 Feb 2015 18:32:31
Sixers get gay and kings 1st round pick next year
Kings get lakers pick and thunder 1st
Why would the Sixers want Gay? They're your team, so you know there looking to find studs in the draft, not trade picks for a poor mans Carmelo Anthony.
Cuz gay is a really good small forward and could be a leader for young sixers
And personally as a sixers fan I don't really no what to do anymore but to wait like 2 more years
27 Feb 2015 18:08:18
Knicks - Kings - 76ers
Knicks get - Cousins
Kings get - Calderon and Embiid
76ers get - 1st pick and Stauskas
Kings draft Turner
76ers draft Russell, Towns, and Anderson
Russell - Anderson - Convington - Towns - Noel
Collison - McClemore - Gay - Turner - Embiid
Knicks (with FA)
Rondo - THJ - Melo - Thad - Cousins
U got to give a 1st to kings or no deal
No from sixers
Sixers will keep joel instead I think. Okafor is tempting but Embiid has a higher upside. Sixers need upside.
27 Feb 2015 17:03:00
New York Knicks 2015/16 season
Jason Smith, Cole Aldrich, Lance Thomas or Quincy Acy and maybe Louis Amundson if can't sigh Emeka Okafor
Tobias Harris, Rajon Rondo, Iman Shumpert, Landry Fields, Thanasis Antetokounmpo and if can Emeka Okafor
Pg Rajon Rondo, Jose Calderon, Luke Galloway
Sg Iman Shumpert, Tim Hardaway, Landry Fields
Sf Tobias Harris, Thanasis Antetokounmpo, Cleanthony Early
Pf Carmelo Anthony, Jason Smith, Lance Thomas or Quincy Acy
C Jahil Okafor, Cole Aldrich, Louis Amundson or Emeka Okafor
Yes, this is exactly what needs to happen. I'd really love Jimmy Butler in a Knicks uniform, but bringing back Shump would be a nice alternative.
Shump is restricted and the Cavs will match any offer to keep him. They didn't make that trade just to let him walk after the season and money is no object for Dan Gilbert so that's not an issue.
27 Feb 2015 14:16:55
since everyone is trading Embiid & Cousins
DEN get: Nik Stauskus, OKC 2015 1st DP (via 76ers) & MIA 2015 1st DP (via 76ers)
Draft: Justice Winslow (6th) & Isiah Taylor (16th)
SAC get: Ty Lawson, Joel Embiid, & Wilson Chandler
Draft: Myles Turner (7th)
PHI get: Demarcus Cousins & Rudy Gay
Draft: D'Angelo Russell (2nd)
There is no way the sixers give up 2 1st Round Draft picks with Joel for Cousins and Washed up Ridy Gay this is awful the sixers could of had cousins over Noel two years ago but they turned doen the offer for Jrue
Ok now that's a good trade that involves embiid. But I think kings would want a late 1st round pick OR two 2nd round picks. Then it will be a done deal.
And I do think that something like this will probably happen
LOL you think Gay is washed up? and Cousins is the best center in the game right now. Embiid proved nothing. 76ers fans need to realize your players proved nothing and can't win, if you have the chance to get a super star center and a borderline all star wing, you take it.
No way the kings offered cousins for jrue holiday, show me the source, bc that is BS.
This trade is actually very close at least for Sixers. We're losing a lot. Joel might even be better then cousins all by himself but we're not sure yet. This would certiainly jump start the rebuild.
However, given the money cousins is going to make. Sixers are giving too much. Embiid maybe. But another two first rounders. Seems too costly to take on a high contract. So I think I'd say no at this point.
The current trend of nba salaries keeps increasing, so if embiid becomes nearly as good as Cousins, let's say within the next few years, his contract will be even more expensive. cousins is proven and effective, embiid has literally proven nothing.
I think the main reason is timing. Cousins will be making a ton much sooner then Embiid. That hurt the flexibility of a rebuilding team. if Embiid is as good as cousins is it take four years for him to make the huge salaries. Mean while during that time you can sign a super free agent to compliment him.
However if you get cousins there's no room for free agent additions. That's a similar problem the Kings are facing now. Got a great core in cousins. But can't build around him due to cap and other issues. Rudy gay unfortunately hasn't panned out as hoped. That's compounding this problem. Sixers want three cousins on their rookie deals.
That's what this tanking process is all about. not sure it will work but that's where it is and why I say no to cousins.
^that is why you're crazy
Celtics 4 life
Celtics for life. Well it's a plan at least. That's something. I'm not saying that it's my favorite plan but its what there shooting for. At least get two supers to build around and then sign a super free agent to put them over the top. Imagine thunder except add James harden back onto the team. That's what they want.
26 Feb 2015 20:13:17
MIN get Joel Embiid and Jason Richardson
PHI get Anthony Bennett , Gorgui Dieng and 5th pick
And no the sixers won't do it
Why is philly trading embiid
Sixers need a bit more. Do they have any other firsts?
26 Feb 2015 20:09:25
Wolves should try to contend next season
Wolves - Miami deal
Wolves get Luol Deng and 2nd rd pick
Heat get Nikola Pekovic and Chase Budinger
Wolves - Nets
Wolves get Joe Johnson
Nets get Anthony Bennett and Kevin Martin
- sign DeAndre Jordan
- sign Kevin Garnett one more year
- draft Karl Towns
R. Rubio / Z. Lavine / veteran
J. Johnson / G. Robinson III / FA
A. Wiggins / S. Muhammad
K. Garnett / K. Towns / A. Payne
D. Jordan / G. Dieng
Where's luol deng and no way towns would be behind an even more washed up KG
Celtics 4 life
Jordan's not signing in Minne
26 Feb 2015 01:30:31
OKC gets Courtney Lee
Memphis gets Jeremy Lamb and Andre Roberson
OKC drafts #18 Terry Rozier PG
Extend Kanter and Waiters
PF. S. Ibaka/ M. McGary/ S. Novak
SF. K. Durant/ K. Singler/ P. Jones
C. E. Kanter/ S. Adams/ N. Collison
SG. C. Lee/ D. Waiters/ A. Morrow
PG. R. Westbrook/ D. Augustine/ T. Rozier
OKC won't own their pick this year.
Yea sixers will get their pick
25 Feb 2015 23:08:40
Min trades Kevin Martin and Anthony Bennett and 2015 1st (#5?)
Phi trades Joel Embiid and Jason Richardson (waive)
Dieng/ Payne/ Garnett
Phi drafts Russel and Johnson and (if lakers go out of top 5) porzingis
Sixers say hell no because basically u r sayin that u rather have oak than embiid. Embiid is way better than oak hands down. Sixers most likely will already have a top 3 pick this year and will get mudiay. And I don't want anyone sayin no they want deangelo russell. Russell stinks get over it he's not a top 3 pick. I would much rather draft jerian grant over him.
If Sixers trade Embiid i'm done. Us fans are being way to soft on this gm. No more trading main guys away for future picks. It's out of hand. The mcw trade set us back another year. With no garrentees we even can get a good pick that will end up being better then mcw. So let's just stop. I need tangable asset from here on out.
Sorry. I just had to say it. Tired of waiting. Your trade has some merit its just Embiid is suppose to be a super star. So that's too little of an offer for us.
No way this trade happens. we have enough picks. TreGib, I don't think the mcw trade set us back a year, but I agree 100% that from here on out tangible assets are needed. this team can be very good in a short period of time.
@tregib Greg oden was suppose to be a superstar. Sam Bowie was suppose to be a superstar.
Celtics 4 life
25 Feb 2015 22:12:59
Bulls get Okafor-1st Z.Randle Conley
Grizzlies get Pau Gasol
Knicks get Noah Gibson Rose Bulls 1st
Conley Butler Mirotic Randle Okafor
Calderon Allen Green PauG. MarcG.
Rose Hardaway Melo Gibson Noah
Of course this won't happen, it is a fair trade. Grizzlies get better chemistry- 3 players playing over decade with eachother. Bulls get healthier and younger. Okafor replaces Rose as new home product kid. Knicks are the risk takers bc Phil Jackson has to prevent another terrible season. Rose more protected in triangle offense less transition.all 3 teams get better. If he Retires/ injuries Gibson Noah > Okafor Calderon during the 2 yrs which Melo window to win.
Why would anyone do this horrific trade. I think that this is probably one of the worst trades ever on this site. Not even close to a fair trade.
27 Feb 2015 14:54:35
you just had doctor J turn in his grave with your dramatic comments
Isnt Dr J still alive?
25 Feb 2015 19:10:45
Off season Trade
DEN get: Nik Stauskus & Tony Snell
CHI get: Darren Collison, Wilson Chandler, & Future 1st from SAC
SAC get: Derrick Rose & Mirotic
Y would kings want a broken down rose
Even the Kings aren't that stupid.
Hahah how in the world do the Kings get that return on a mid first round pick and a bust of a rookie?
Broken down rose & mirotic > collison & stauskus
90m man can even stay healthy bulls fans even getting tired he's broken down
25 Feb 2015 18:41:06
Orlando Magic Offseason
I'm not a fan of the Magic, but they are an intriguing team going into the offseason. They have some very good young pieces, a couple of trade candidates, and a boat load of cap space (approx. $20M) as it sits currently. They're a team that's close, and with a couple of moves, they could be a playoff team next year.
Stanley Johnson - 5th pick
Luka Mitrovic - 51st pick
No surprise with the number 5 pick, Johnson fills the most glaring need on the Magic's roster at SF.
The Magic have 11 players under contract next year when you factor in Johnson. They are not in a rush to add a second round pick onto their roster, so why not take a stash prospect like Petrovic who ended up 2nd to Dario Saric for the Adriatic League's most improved player award recently.
2) Current UFA's
Willie Green - Don't resign
Kyle O'Quinn - Resign 2yrs/$3M
3) Current RFA's
Tobias Harris - Sign and trade with the Knicks for Tim Hardaway Jr.
Knicks want Harris, and the Magic have the opportunity to match any contract. Put Harris in the Knicks hands, and get a piece in return.
To LAC - Mo Harkless
To ORL - Matt Barnes, 2016 2nd
Clips are desperately looking to make changes at their wing positions, why not take a flyer on Mo, who has for some reason worn out his welcome in Orlando.
Barnes won't see many minutes, but he can give the Magic some energy on defense. Though you're giving up a former first round pick for a 2nd, you're not going to get anything better for Mo currently.
5) FA signings
Amir Johnson - 2yrs/$14M
Patrick Beverley - 3yrs/$15M
Omer Asik - 4yrs/$42M
For all of the rebounding that Vucevic does, the Magic are still the third worst rebounding team in the NBA. They also do not guard the perimeter well, as they hold the 7th worse opponents 3 point shooting percentage in the league.
Adding Asik allows Nik to slide over to the 4, where he is better suited as he is undersized to play the five, but has the athletisism to guard opposing fours. Asik brings the tough interior presence the Magic need.
Beverley is a defensive standout who will be able to guard both ones and twos effectively along the perimeter.
Finally, Amir Johnson is a great motor guy off the bench that can bang with big men, and is nimble enough to guard more athletic fours.
PG - Payton, Beverley, Ridnour
SG - Oladipo, TJH ,Fournier
SF - S Johnson, TJH, Barnes
PF - Vucevic, A Johnson, Frye
C - Asik, Frye, O'Quinn
Still won't win.
There are a few problems with your suggestion. The biggest is having Vucevic switch to PF. He simply doesn't have the athleticism to guard the 4 defensively.
p.s., unless I've missed you trading him away for rubbish, you've forgotten about AG on your depth chart.
Thanks for pointing out that I missed AG. If I had remembered to put him in, I could have scrapped the Mo/Barnes trade and just moved Mo for a pick. I should have put AG as the backup SF and move THJ back to 3rd on the SF depth chart.
As for Nik, he is a little more athletic than I think you give him credit for. Could he keep up with Blake Griffin, no, but how many PF's can? If the Magic face a team with a really athletic four, give Amir Johnson more minutes at the four, and move Vucevic to the five, moving Asik to the bench.
Johnson may be one of the best prospects at 5 but i'd be targeting one these Towns, Prozingis or Turner to play Pf obviously depending on where they land in the lottery, but all 3 can stretch the Floor and protect the rim which would complement Vucevic.
Harris doesn't fit as great as he is so move A.Gordon to Sf who at 6'9 and who had faster times then Curry, paul and westbrook in the speed and agility tests at the nba combine gives the Magic a mismatch at Sf.
25 Feb 2015 17:46:46
Alright this is unrealistic
Chicago gets- Lawson, Faried and, Hickson.
Denver- Rose, Gibson, and pick top 5 protected in 2017 and 2018. (Both are unprotected the next)
Chicago is tired of Rose always getting hurt and is trying to win now so this helps them a lot although they need to need to trade Hickson for a small forward.
Denver gets a superstar core (if he is healthy) and two picks that help them rebuild.
Dunleavy not Gibson My bad
I think you are suggesting CHI gives DEN their 2017 and 2018 1st rd picks right? You can't trade back to back 1st rd picks.
O well then 16 and 18
Who is disagreeing with me? It's an nba rule not an opinion.
25 Feb 2015 17:38:10
Rondo having problems in Dallas with the coach Rondo to Lakers after season
Honestly what's the point of signing rondo to lakers. Its not going to change anything. They need young fresh players and that r more hungry for the ship
Sign and trade rondo for rubio
^Minnesota says no. Then no again. And for the hell of it, no a third time.
Honest, player cannot argue at Coaches, but Coaches should not blame at a elite player public as well!
And sry Mavs, but there is criticism! You cannot buy Rondo and try to convert him to Nelson or anyone else? There are professionals, we all know, Rondo is not a spot up shooter, his is a playermaker and can drive to the rim first off all. Why do we not consider that style?
From the beginning Carlise was talking about Rondos way to improve as a still young guy. Does it really make sense that way? No matter, Rondo have to improve, but should do it in a Rondo way, coach have to build a Rondo way not a PG way! M2C
Listen guys just watch closely rondo is our
answer at point guard doesn't crack under
Pressure we need him i'm glad they blew up
at each other to get all the tinchen out
When he sees how bad this team wants to win
He'll understand that this team can be built
around him defense is great Portland, Memphis, rockets its hard to be a champion without a elite floor General everyone's so hard d on him for shooting but Carlisle don't think he's ready to lead yet without knowing the play's to win He'll step up in a month he'll fit remember the Boston game he was on fire give rondo time an especially in the playoffs he's like Westbrook
Agree to the Rondo criticism he have to be focused and need confidence to hit open shoots.
But let him play as a Rondo plays! I tough it is pretty clear, that the teams style will adopted with such a player - if not it make no sense to hire such a player!
What it means it, Rondo have to drive to the rim and try lay it up. So adopt the Dallas offensive flow, pass fast to find an open shoot but Rondo mostly have to try to drive to the rim lay up, pass for allee hoop or pass inside out to a spot up shoot.
It could work to pretty well! One of the shooters (Dirk, Harris, Parsons) become free at fast passing, if not Ellis or Rondo (or Parsons) drive to the rim and lay it in, pass it and easy bucket for Chandler/STAT or pass it out the shooters again.
That could be a very strong and flexible offense! It doesn't work right now. Why?
Because he's having flash backs of Boston
Our style is different couldn't have beat yhe
Playoff teams without him we're doomed
He wants full control wines when he do get
It your right drive kick out but play elite defense rebound an get assist an lead our
Troops to war
The mavs offense is built off a point guard
Who can shoot but his elite defense he
Can Slow down the top 10 point guards
25 Feb 2015 17:16:20
Off season moves for Washington
1. Let Ernie Grunfeld go.
2. Fire Randy Wittman.
3. Resign Seriphen.
4. Sign Gerald Green.
5. Try to Martell, Gortat, and Nene.
6. Start Otto Porter.
Lol start porter nice one
25 Feb 2015 17:14:45
Bulls get- Chalmers and Ennis
Heat get- Hinrich, Moore, and a 2nd
Bulls need a point guard with Rose out and chalmers may not be the best point guard but he is a solid one. Hinrich is having by far the worst season of his career.
The heat need to develop Napier so getting Hinrich is good as he can be used as either a mentor or a trade asset to get a backup big with Bosh out. The 2nd is a nice sweetener as well.
25 Feb 2015 16:42:01
End of the season:
minnesota going to have the number 1 pick and select Jahlil Okafor.
Timberwolves laughs and says no. They aren't going to give up 3 talented prospects and 2 quality players for 4 role players and Jimmy Butler
Also you are assuming Butler will resign if this trade does somehow happen I doubt he will resign in Minnesota.
If they have luck and they can sign Okafor and FA Butler will check out at Bulls, to sign at wolves - they are long term contender!