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20 Jul 2017 11:15:46
Rest of Pelicans offseason

Melo trade

Pels get Ariaza

Knicks get Knight, Ajinca, Moore, Toupane, Quaterman, and Long and first rounder from Suns

Rockets get Melo

Suns get Anderson

Trade two

Pelicans get Troy Daniels with Buddy Hield trade exception

Trade three
Pelicans get Bellinelli

Hawks get Booker and Quincy P

Brooklyn get Hill, Asik(stretch) a first round pick top three 2018 and a second round pick 2020

20 Jul 2017 19:37:24
suns don't give up a first rounder fir Anderson, its a salary dump they would need more than just Anderson to give up a pick.

19 Jul 2017 01:21:15
Raptors-Hawks-Nuggets-Suns

Raptors get K.Faried & 2nd round pick from Suns

Lowry
Derozan
Miles
Faried
Ibaka

Hawks get J.Valanciunas , B.Knight & 1st round pick from Nuggets

Knight
Bazemore
Prince
Ilyasova
Valanciunas

Nuggets get E.Bledsoe

Bledsoe
Murray
Chandler
Millsap
Jokic

Suns get D.Shroeder & W.Barton

Shroeder
Booker
Jackson
Chriss
Bender

19 Jul 2017 04:40:16
Yeah that's a big NO from Atlanta. They are not going to trade their best player for two players nobody wants and a a pick in the mid teens.

18 Jul 2017 09:20:30
ATL/CHI/POR

ATL get Allen Crabbe & 1st round pick from POR
- basically get a similar player to Bazemore and gain a 1st round pick

Pg Shroeder/Delaney
Sg Crabbe/Bembry
Sf Prince/Dunleavy
Pf Collins/Muscala
Ce Plumlee/Dedmon

CHI get Kent Bazemore , Myers Leonard & 2nd round pick from ATL
- get a young wing guy who can start at 3 and a young big

Pg Dunn/Grant
Sg LaVine/Valentine
Sf Bazemore/Zipser
Pf Portis/Markannen/Mirotic
Ce Lopez/Leonard/Felicio

POR get Dwayne Wade & Marco Bellineli
- get veteran leadership while getting rid of some big contracts

Pg Lillard/Napier
Sg McCollum/Wade
Sf Harkless/Bellineli
Pf Aminu/Vonleh
Ce Nurkic/Collins

15 Jul 2017 09:39:53
Pelicans Moves

Trade #1

Pels - Will Barton SG/ SF (Becones RFA next offseason)

Nuggets - 2020 top 10 protected 1st

Nugs need to clear spots and Barton could be a new be fit at the 2

Trade #2

Pels - Marco Belinelli SG

Hawks - Omir Asik C, 2018 Top 10 protected

Hawks can take some cap on and have no C, yes Asik isn't good but neither will Atlanta be, than can stretch waive him or keep him but gain a 1st round pick, Pels clear couple extra million off the cap

Free Agents

Luc Mbah a Moute SF 2 yr 10 mil
Rajon Rondo 1 yr 10 mil

Lineup

PG - Holiday - Rondo - Jackson
SG - Barton - Belinelli - Moore
SF - Hill - Pondexter
PF - Davis - Diallo
C - Cousins - Ajainca

This lineup while they didn't add studds but gained a lot of shooters and flexibility moving forward, small lineup with Holiday, Rondo, Barton, Belinelli and Davis or Boogie could be solid.

14 Jul 2017 15:22:47
ATL - NYK - DET - CLE

ATL get: Tristan Thompson, Tobias Harris, Reggie Jackson, and 2018 1st DP NYK (top 3 protected)

pg. Jackson
sg. Bellinelli
sf. Harris
pf. Collins
c. Thompson

NYK get: Dennis Schroeder, Iman Shumpert, and Channing Frye (exp)

pg. Schroeder/ Ntilikina
sg. THJ
sf. Kuzminskas
pf. Porziningis
c. Hernangomez

DET get: JR Smith, Courtney Lee, and Kyle OQuinn

pg. Bradley
sg. Kennard
sf. Lee
pf. Leuer/ OQuinn
c. Drummond

CLE get: Carmelo Anthony, Joakim Noah, and Kent Bazemore

pg. Irving
sg. Korver
sf. James
pf. Anthony
c. Love/ Noah

14 Jul 2017 15:43:29
my goodness that Cavs lineup would give up 180 every night.

14 Jul 2017 15:44:27
Knicks are now saying they aren't going to trade Anthony.
Which is what the smart money has been on since the rumors started.

14 Jul 2017 18:07:09
Pistons will definitely have top five draft pick.

14 Jul 2017 20:55:59
And Melo still saying "I want to be traded".

14 Jul 2017 22:44:34
Pistons aren't trading Tobias for filler.

16 Jul 2017 04:12:24
Supercollider-you are a moron! The Knicks have said they are waiting on Melo trade until new GM Perry gets caught up. They are trying to see if Melo will expand on his list of acceptable trade destinations. Do you understand this? If you don't-have an adult read it to you and explain it! Please tell me that when the Knicks trade Melo-you will finally shut your mouth.

13 Jul 2017 21:11:27
Dallas Mavs moves

-Trade Josh McRoberts and Dorian Finney-Smith to Atlanta for Miles Plumlee, 2018 Rockets 1st, 2019 2nd, and rights to Marcus Erikkson

-Re-sign Nerlens Noel 4yr 64m
-Sign Jonathon Simmons 2yr full MLE
-Sign Terrence Jones 1yr minimum

Lineup:
PG: Smith, Ferrell, Barea
SG: Matthews, Curry, Harris
SF: Barnes, Simmons, Brussino
PF: Nowitzki, Powell, Jones
C: Noel, Mejri, Plumlee.

13 Jul 2017 21:54:25
Atlanta is trying to rebuild. I don't see them being willing to give up picks or prospects.

12 Jul 2017 03:13:29
Pelicans get Wall

Hawks get Asik, Jason Smith

Wizards get Diallo, Jackson, Quincy P, Bellinelli, two first round picks and two second round picks

Pistons get Moore and Ajinca

12 Jul 2017 04:16:01
The Wizards aren't trading Wall unless they think they'll lose him or they get a ridiculous offer. I also hate this for Atlanta.

12 Jul 2017 04:58:21
That is really terrible for the Wizards, Wall is the only big name i see in the trade. That's not going to happen.

12 Jul 2017 13:37:04
Trading Wall for that? It's like trading a 50 cent piece for 4 dimes and 2 plug nickels.

17 Jul 2017 11:24:11
Why would the Wizards do this?

12 Jul 2017 01:37:54
Wizards rest of offseason

Was gets - Lopez Payne and Bellineli

Chi gets - Oubre and Smith

Atl gets - Gortat

- Was gets a better rebounding and rim protecting big and adds wing depth

Wall/Payne
Beal/Bellineli
Porter/Bogdonovic
Morris/Scott
Lopez/Mahinimi

12 Jul 2017 02:02:31
What does Atlanta want with Gortat. He's a solid player, but he's to old to fit into their plans to rebuild.

12 Jul 2017 03:17:52
The basic rebounding numbers seem to show that Gortat is a much better rebounder than Lopez since he averaged nearly 4 more boards per game and only played like 3 more minutes per game. Overall don't think he is a better player either. Wizards already lost Bogdonovic to the Pacers, traded for a backup point guard in Tim Frazier and not sure how swapping Bellinelli for Oubre improves their wing depth. All in all don't think these moves make Wizards any better and they'd be better off sitting tight and just trying to add talent via vet mins in FA.

I think Bulls would be potentially interested in moving Lopez for a young talent like Oubre since they are rebuilding.

Hawks need a center but not necessarily the one of the caliber of Gortat but they aren't giving up much to get him in first place.

12 Jul 2017 01:30:47
Nuggets-Hawks

Nuggets get Dennis Shroeder & Marco Bellineli

Shroeder-Nelson
Murray-Bellineli
Chandler-Barton-Hernangomez
Millsap-Arthur
Jokic-Plumlee

Hawks get Emmanuel Mudiay , Gary Harris , Kenneth Faried & protected 1st round pick

Mudiay-Delaney
Harris-Dunleavy
Bazemore-Prince
Faried-Muscala
Plumlee-Collins

12 Jul 2017 02:12:17
Bad for nuggets just plain bad.

12 Jul 2017 03:43:00
Interesting move I hadn't considered. Nuggets definitely need an upgrade at point guard if they want to cement a place in the playoffs (and actually compete) in a deep west. Not sure how available Schroeder is but as a younger playoff proven point guard he'd be a good fit (I still think Bledsoe would be a better fit tho and could be had for cheaper) . Giving up Harris is the only thing that may hold up the trade on the Nuggets end since he really improved last season. Nuggets would likely prefer to swap Barton with him in the trade.

For the Hawks they are going to be awful and Schroeder is clearly their best player. Turning 24 this September he is young enough to go through a rebuild and having a solid point guard is essential in today's NBA. However, they should move him for what appears a solid return for me. Mudiay is only 21, has similar stats to Schroeder at his age (although Mudiay didn't have an all-star in Teague in front of him and could've gotten all the minutes wanted had he played better) and as a bigger player at 6ft 5 200+ lbs I think has a higher upside than Schroeder if he can improve his decision making and shooting. If I were the Hawks I'd take the chance since they could bring him along slowly and the other pieces could be attractive supplementary pieces (at the moment Prince and Collins appear only guys they'd want to keep around for long haul) . I probably wouldn't want Faried who is already 27 and would prefer Lyles, Lydon or Hernangomez as a shooter next to Collins. I'm not sure John Collins has size to play center (doesn't have long arms, not that tall and at 225 too light to bang with actual centers) but he has looked good in summer league and maybe he can develop into that role in time with the help of his athleticism and adding muscle.

12 Jul 2017 07:07:26
way too much going to Atlanta.

11 Jul 2017 20:51:09
Finishing the T Wolves offseason

Trade 2018 OKC 1st and Aldrich to ATL for Bellinelli

Not sure if Payne is still on roster but waive/release him if he is
Sign Lawson, if too expensive sign Foye
Sign 2/3 of Sefelosha, Afflalo, Green to min.
Sign 1 of Bogut, Speights, Ezeli to min.

Teague, Jones, Lawson
Wiggins, Bellinelli, Afflalo
Butler, Sefelosha, Afflalo
Dieng, Gibson, Bjelica
Towns, Bogut, Patton

12 Jul 2017 01:27:48
Wolves already signed Crawford at SG backup
Green already signed with Cavs.

12 Jul 2017 02:49:19
Gerald Green, but forgot to put in Crawford my bad.

11 Jul 2017 17:14:46
Spurs go small ball

Spurs get N.Vucevic,Aaron Gordon

Magic get Eric bledsoe,Danny Green
M.Chriss and M.Delaney,1st rd pick from hawks,

Suns get L.Aldridge, second round pick from spurs

Hawks get E.Fournier

Mills,
Leonard
Gay
Gordon
Vucevic

11 Jul 2017 17:41:38
Wouldn't really consider a conventional center and pf small ball but it would give Spurs much needed youth and athleticism. Vucevic is a very underrated player who I think could be that #2 option and provide a lot of what Aldridge did while being a little tougher, better rebounder, cheaper and younger. Gordon has been fairly underwhelming thus far in his career as he hasn't been able to develop any offense and just has raw athleticism. I think Pop would work wonders with him and develop him into a promising player. This move would set Spurs back a little bit in short term but I think could pay off in long term.

I think Bledsoe and Green would be pretty much wasted on that Magic roster but they could develop a defensive culture there and in the east they probably wouldn't be far out of playoff race. Chriss has some upside and with some semblance of a jump shot is probably better suited for today's NBA than Gordon. The Hawks will be one of the worst teams in the NBA with Schroeder their only above average player but I imagine that pick will be protected heavily enough that it wouldn't convey this year if all Hawks are getting back is Fournier and his big contract.

Suns won't make playoffs in the west with Aldridge so they'd be better off just keeping Chriss and Bledsoe who are both younger and Aldridge has only 1 year and a player option he'll probably opt out of to get a final big contract left.

The Hawks shouldn't trade their pick for anything and certainly not Fournier who is just meh and has a big contract. They should be focused on tanking and scouting out whether they'd want to go with Porter or one of the top centers to pair with Schroeder.

11 Jul 2017 18:15:41
Aldridge to the Suns ship sailed 2 years ago (good for PHX as it turned out) . Suns say no to this deal.

11 Jul 2017 05:49:55
Atlanta Hawks Moves

-Trade Miles Plumlee, 2018 Rockets 1st, 2019 2nd, and draft rights to Marcus Eriksson to Dallas for Josh McRoberts
(Saves 6.5m)

-Sign Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 4yr 79m
-Sign Tarik Black 1yr 3.5m
-Sign Tyler Ennis 1yr 3m
-Sign Jeff Withey 1yr minimum
-Alpha Kaba 2-way contract

Lineup:
PG: Schroeder, Delaney, Ennis
SG: KCP, Bellinelli, Dorsey
SF: Prince, Bazemore, Bembry
PF: Collins, Black, McRoberts
C: Muscala, Stone, Withey

Schroeder, KCP, and Prince look nice for the future and this team should be bad enough to land a top 5 pick and pick a big man.

11 Jul 2017 07:22:38
Plus they also have Minnesota's 2018 1st but it's lottery protected but Minnesota should make the playoffs.

08 Jul 2017 18:26:32
LA Lakers Moves

•Lakers-Suns-Hawks
LAKERS get Jared Dudley and Marco Bellinelli
SUNS get Julius Randle, Luol Deng, and a 2nd rd pick (via Lakers)
HAWKS get Brandon Knight

-Sign Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 1yr max
-Sign Dante Cunningham 1yr 4m

Lineup:
PG: Ball, Clarkson, Nwaba
SG: Pope, Bellinelli, Hart
SF: Ingram, Dudley, Brewer
PF: Nance, Cunningham, Kuzma
C: Lopez, Zubac, Bryant.

08 Jul 2017 19:17:32
Suns don't need. Randle Deng and lotto protect 1st for wade.

08 Jul 2017 19:28:19
Dudley's contract is a lot better than Deng's with only 2 yr left and a manageable 9 mill in 2018 (could deal him as an expiring contract then too) . Although Randle is a FA next year Lakers could potentially use him as a trade chip via s and T to add talent over the cap (with his bird rights meaning they could add a player equal to however much Randle gets which should be a decent amount) . Regardless Lakers essentially get rid of Deng's contract and Dudley turns into a trade chip as an expiring contract in 2018 offseason so very good trade for Lakers.

For the Suns not sure how interested they'd be in this move since they'd be locking up a lot of money with not only Deng but Randle (I'm assuming if they were to do this trade they'd be willing to pay him in RFA) . Also, there pf spot is already kinda of crowded with young prospects like Chriss, Bender and Williams so not sure how keen they are to add another guy who doesn't have as high a ceiling as some of those guys.

For the Hawks they need to add talent and Brandon Knight is relatively young and has shown flashes in the past so I think it would be a smart gamble especially with them having plenty of cap space.

08 Jul 2017 19:35:45
I don't understand why KCP would want to sign a 1 year deal with the Lakers when he could sign a longer term deal and get close to the max (look at what THJ was offered) from any of the bad teams with cap space with him being relatively young and a potential 3 and D guy. I don't see him being a part of Lakers long term plans either so not sure why they'd waste a year with him. They'd be better off paying an older guy they overpay this year then next year takes a discount to stick around.

08 Jul 2017 20:29:35
This trade is laughable to the Suns. So let me get this straight, the suns are trading Knight and Dudley, and get back Randle, Deng and his $51 million owned over 3 years, and a 2nd rounder? So knight and Dudley for Randle probably is fair trade value. So, the Suns big payout for taking on Dengs $51 million is a 2nd rounder. Like I said, this trade is laughable for Phoenix.

08 Jul 2017 14:17:34
76ers/Hawks

Sixers get:least favorable of Twolves/Clippers protected 2018 1st via Hawks

Hawks get: Okafor, Stauskas.

Okafor is 21 and stauskas is 23. Both young guys in positions of need for Atlanta. With Howard gone, the only center is plumlee. With THJ signing a ridiculous contract with NY, a sg is also needed. Both in last guranteed year of contracts. Okafor makes 4.8 and stauskas 3.7. Worth a one year trial for hawks where they both could see considerable increase in playing time and production. Sixers get a late protected 1st in return.

08 Jul 2017 14:51:37
I think the sixers see higher value in the 2 players and won't accept. Stauskas is a good 2nd/ 3rd sg and Okafor gets some time to develop behind Embiid and Holmes. Both could get really good bench players. Sixers might accept it if you take out stauskas.

06 Jul 2017 21:25:38
Timberwolves reportedly interested in Jamal Crawford

Hawks-Wolves

Aldrich OKC 1st for Crawford

Timberwolves get a 6th man scorer and dump Aldrich. Hawks get another first rounder next year.

06 Jul 2017 22:52:30
Or Minnesota can wait until Crawford gets bought out.

06 Jul 2017 16:37:13
Celtics-Sixers-Hawks

Celtics get 2018 Hawks Second

Sixers get Crowder

Hawks get Okafor

Celtics get something in return (Probably Top 40 pick since Hawks are tanking) for Crowder to make room for Hayward instead of doing a sign and trade with Utah and getting nothing. Sixers get a starting SF, while only giving up a backup center. Hawks take a chance on Okafor while only giving up a 2nd.

06 Jul 2017 17:05:47
That's not enough for Crowder.

06 Jul 2017 17:16:55
Celtics should minimally be able to get a late 1st for Crowder. He is a starting caliber player at 2 maybe 3 positions on the right team that is on one of the best contracts in the league and just entering his prime at 27. He is the perfect complimentary player who can play defense on guys 1-4 and shot close to 40% on 3s while also being a good rebounder for a guy his size.

Even Okafor I think 76ers should be able to get a future 1st for, maybe not next years but I think he is worth more than a 2nd rounder.

06 Jul 2017 18:00:09
I agree that Crowder is worth more, but the Celtics have no leverage because they have to get rid of a player to sign Hayward. They are already talking about a sign and trade of Hayward for Crowder, so the Celtics would be getting nothing for him in that scenario.

06 Jul 2017 20:36:54
The Celtics have plenty of leverage. They are not way over the cap. Crowder is not going to Utah, Jazz are putting the trade out there. Ideally they would trade Smart to the Knicks for Willy and that will cover the Hayward signing. I think keeping AB and Crowder are key to competing this year. Look for IT to be dealt at the deadline and Rozier being the PG.

IT4 is talking his way out of town with this back the Brinks truck up and if I were 6'5" I'd be the best player in the NBA. FYI, no you wouldn't, you can't play D and you don't have enough dimes.

Ainge is thinking this out carefully because he wants to be in the finals this year. Gasol can clog up the paint but at a price. I think Vucivic can do the same at half the price so if Crowder is moved Orlando could be that team. Maybe they can do it with a late 1st and some young player they just drafted not named Tatum. He looks and plays like a stud. Drummond is still a viable option with 3 years of control and he'd be the guy I'd want if you have to spend 25 million. He's missed 2 games out of the last 3 years. And 9 years younger than Gasol.

06 Jul 2017 20:49:43
If it was just a straight sign and trade for Crowder it would be done already. DA is trying to figure out if he can get something else out of Utah. My guess is Hood right now with Utah balking at the prospect.

07 Jul 2017 00:25:31
The celtics need to find a way to move horford if they are going to move him or thomas. I feel like no one talks about that bad signing. he shouldn't be a max guy.

07 Jul 2017 03:57:33
Horford was taken out of his environment of playing the PF, his #'s reflect that. Get a real center and he'll be better. He's a good presence for the players and he is a good player.

Buttt. I think if the right situation came around for the right player Trader Danny wouldn't think twice.

05 Jul 2017 15:06:45
Instead of Minnesota trading Aldrich and the OKC first to Indiana in a sign and trade for Miles, they should try to trade Aldrich to Atlanta.

Minnesota would get a protected future 2nd round pick

Atlanta gets Aldrich, Miami's 2019 2nd round pick, and Minnesota removes the lottery protection on the 2018 1st they owe Atlanta.

Minnesota gets cap space to sign Miles outright and keep that 2018 OKC 1st
Atlanta takes a chance on Minnesota missing the playoffs in loaded West while also getting a future 2nd round pick.

05 Jul 2017 17:24:54
I don't think that's worth it for the Hawks since Minnesota will probably make the playoffs anyway, so the pick would convey, and that second round pick isn't enough to take on Aldrich.

05 Jul 2017 18:49:36
Doesn't Minnesota get a $14 million trade exemption from the Ricky Rubio trade. Why can't they use that to do a sign and trade for CJ Miles and send Indiana a second round pick?

05 Jul 2017 22:03:11
ILD. I asked that to. I guess it's because Minnesota was under the cap so they didn't get a trade exception.

05 Jul 2017 19:48:12
Or just get miles because they need 3 point shooting. another great trade carl you are brilliant.

05 Jul 2017 14:41:37
Hawks offseason
hawks : crowder
celtics : muscala, 1st round pick

Hawks:
- sign willie reed and olynyk
- resign hardaway jr and ilyasova
- let humphries and sefolosha walk
- buyout crawford

schroeder/delaney/dorsey
hardaway/bellineli/bembry
crowder/bazemore/prince
collins/ilyasova/olynyk
plumlee/reed/stone

05 Jul 2017 16:02:46
Boston has no need for draft choices at this point. Don't see any bigs on the Hawks roster than would interest the Celtics.

05 Jul 2017 16:30:37
You always have need for more draft picks. They're currency, it's like saying "I have no use for more money". Considering bostons cap situation, they need to move a contract for picks most likely. Crowder and Bradley are the two that make the most sense to me.

05 Jul 2017 11:42:32
Bos - N. Powell

Tor - A. Bradley

Atl - C. Joseph & 2018 2nd rd pick from boston

05 Jul 2017 13:30:52
Why is Atlanta in this they give nothing up.

05 Jul 2017 13:35:56
So what does atlanta give up to get Joseph and a 2nd rd pick?

05 Jul 2017 12:09:53
Powell would want a big contract too, so not sure Boston is into this trade.

05 Jul 2017 09:53:40
ATL-LAL

Crawford for Clarkson.

 
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