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21 Jun 2017 03:58:47

Pacers trade Paul George and Al Jefferson to the Hawks for Paul Millisap (S&T), Tim Hardaway Jr., and 1st round pick

Pacers resign Jeff Teague (4yr/ 80mill)

Pacers sign Rudy Gay (2yr/ 36mill)

Pacers draft Bam Adebayo, OG Anunoby, and Frank Mason

Pacers Lineup:

PG: Jeff Teague, Lance Stephenson, Frank Mason
SG: Tim Hardaway Jr., Monta Ellis, Joe Young
SF: Rudy Gay, Glenn Robinson, OG Anunoby
PF: Paul Millisap. Thaddeus Young, Georges Niang
C: Myles Turner, Bam Adebayo, Lavoy Allen.

21 Jun 2017 05:53:44
Hawks just gave Dwight Howard away for essentially nothing, not sure what they'd want a year of George for. They'd be better off keeping THJ and trying to rebuild which after debating blowing it up the past two years looks like the direction Hawks are finally going to go.

21 Jun 2017 02:46:28
ATL will not be resigning Millsap after trading Dwight for less

I think they will go full rebuild


ATL get #10 pick + A.Afflalo

SAC get 2018 ATL 1st round pick (top 7 protected) + K.Bazemore

will give the Hawks a lottery pick for this year while sheding some salary. Hawks could be bad this year so Kings might do it while getting a young player in Bazemore to start at 3

21 Jun 2017 05:04:48
Bazemore would need a first just to take his contract.

21 Jun 2017 06:05:08
Why would Kings deal Afflalo's non-guaranteed contract and guaranteed #10 pick in the current draft for Bazemore's decently sized contract and a top 7 protected pick in a draft a year from now. Although I guess Bazemore is a solid player that would start for Kings he wouldn't be in their long-term plans which should be the focus right now. Having the pick being top 7 protected offers virtually no upside to dealing #10 this year.

21 Jun 2017 02:20:20
Hawks just dumped Howard on the Hornets

Howard and 31 for Plumlee, Belinelli, and 41

21 Jun 2017 05:08:58
They apparently really wanted to get rid of him if they are only getting a couple of scraps and dropping 10 spots in the second round.

20 Jun 2017 11:10:22
Now that Griffins gone I feel like Gilberts going to blow it up for whatever reason.
Gilberts Dream Scenario

4 team trade Cavs Bulls Pacers 76ers

Cavs Receive

Bulls receive
2 second rounders (NYK, ATL) this year from the 76ers
2019 first round (76ers) from the 76ers

Pacers Receive
2018 first round pick(LAL) from 76ers
2019 second round (SAC) pick from 76ers
2021 first round pick from Cavs

76ers receive

20 Jun 2017 14:53:48
Rumors have Chauncy Billups as the possible GM. He has mentioned prior, that he thinks Melo would fit nicely on this team. If Billups is hired, look for a Melo deal not too far behind.

20 Jun 2017 16:20:09
Cleveland is about to become a dysfunctional team. Gilbert got his championship title, Blow it up now Dan. First move, trade the dude that has lied to you a few times and is about to do it again.

20 Jun 2017 03:38:20

CLE get Nik Vucevic

ORL get Tristan Thompson


CLE get Paul Millsap (st) & Gorgui Dieng

MIN get Kevin Love , Kent Bazemore & ATL 1st round pick

ATL get #7 pick Channing Frye , Iman Shumpert & future 1st from CLE
sign Marresse Speights


Pg Irving/Williams
Sg Smith/Korver
Sf James/Jefferson/Williams
Pf Millsap/Speights
Ce Vucevic/Dieng


Pg Rubio/Dunn/Jones
Sg Bazemore/LaVine
Sf Wiggins/Muhammad
Pf Love/Bjelica
Ce Towns/Aldrich

draft J.Isaac

Pg Shroeder/Delaney
Sg Shumpert/THJ
Sf Isaac/Prince
Pf Frye/Humphries
Ce Howard/Muscala

20 Jun 2017 04:37:22
I dot need really think that Millsap and Vucevic are upgrades over Love and Thompson.

20 Jun 2017 04:58:51
I think they are a better fit. They can pound the inside better than Love and Thompson. and they have Dieng as a rim protector.

19 Jun 2017 19:03:28
1st trade:
Pacers trade George to Lakers for #2, #28, 2019 1st and Clarkson

2nd trade:
Pacers trade #2 to Suns for #4 and #32 and 2018 Heat 1st (Suns want Ball)

3rd Trade:
Trade Young to Atlanta for #19 and #31 (Need to replace Millsap)

4th Trade: Trade #19, #28, #31, #32, #47 to Orlando for #6 (Orlando is rebuilding and needs picks)

Draft Fox at #4, Isaac at #6, Ferguson at #18
Resign Miles and let Teague walk.

Robinson III/Miles/Niang


19 Jun 2017 21:42:28
I doubt Lakers give up that much for George. I don't think they'll ever include #2 pick but if they did that's all they'd need since I don't see any team outbidding that for a 1 year rental (they could probably add Deng or Mozgov and still get away with it) .

The second trade is alright although if I were the Suns I'd be fine at #4 where I'm guaranteed to get Ball, Jackson or Fox all who could fit well in that team (move Bledsoe for another draft pick in this draft or young asset) .

3rd trade is a little rich for Young since Hawks wouldn't be that good if they lost Millsap and could get a more reasonable replacement with #19 pick that would build them toward the future around Schroeder and THJ.

The Fourth trade I don't think those picks move you all the way up to #6 especially in this deep draft and from a team like Magic who is already young but needs a young player with superstar potential which is much easier found at #6. They already have a bunch of alright young player and adding 5 players to any roster is tough; 2 or 3 of those would have to be stashed overseas which really limits your selection.

19 Jun 2017 14:47:27
Lakers looking for another first round pick.


Lakers get #10

Hawks get Russell, Deng

Kings get #19, #28, #31

19 Jun 2017 15:27:40
Lakers might do that. Don't think the hawks need russell as they have Schröder. Anyways #10 for russell is equal value. But dengs contract is to heavy for #28.
Kings won't do it before draft night. If someone like Ntilikina, monk or DSJ falls to 10 they won't trade it.

19 Jun 2017 16:44:06
Hawks are not trading #19 and #31 for D'Angelo who won't even start and deng's terrible contract.

19 Jun 2017 17:29:03
The Kings turn that down quickly.

16 Jun 2017 09:19:30
Indy should go all in, if PG13 would like to stay

1) Indy- Atl-Nets

Indy: 2rnd pick Nets 2018

Atl: M Ellis
Atlanta could do this because D12 need shooters, ellis is a friend and Atlanta could enter the free agent marktet in 2020, when both contracts end.

Nets: Bazemore+ Jefferson+ 1rnd pick Indy 2017+ Wolves pick 2018 (top 12 protected)
The Nets take bad contracts, for draft picks, so they can rebuilt.

2) Indy- Denver
Indy; Faried
Denver: Young+ Nets 2nd round pick 2018

3) Indy would have about 54M in capspace, so they could sign Hayward and Lowry
also sign L Stephenson and Z-Bo for the vet minimum
And sign Rondo with the mid level exception

C: M turner/Z-Bo/Seraphin
Pf: Farried/ Z-BO/ L Allen
SF: PG13/ L Stephenson/ G Robinson
SG: G Hayward/ CJ Miles/ G Robinson
PG: K Lowry/Rondo/Booker

16 Jun 2017 12:54:55
Why would Indy trade Faried for Young and why would they trade #18.

16 Jun 2017 13:43:15
Because he's on a cheaper contract and Lowry, Hayward, PG13 and Miles can shoot, so they need a rebounder.

16 Jun 2017 14:39:01
same thing. hawks would never trade Bazemore for Ellis. Ellis is on the decline, Bazemore a solid wing player in his prime, he has much more value.

16 Jun 2017 14:39:59
if Ellis is so good, take out Hawks and make it a more realistic 2 team trade.

15 Jun 2017 17:24:33
Cle: D Howard+ C Anthony

Atl: J Noah+ Frye+ 8 pick

NY: Thompson+ Shumpert+ JR Smith

C: Howard
PF: K Love
SG: Korver
PG: Irving
Sixth: C Anthony

15 Jun 2017 18:51:22
So trade a scorer and a pick for a guy who can only rebound and two pieces we traded to Cleveland for second round picks? It isn't worth getting rid of Noah's contract because they need to rebuild anyways and money being spent on Noah is not as much an issue.

15 Jun 2017 20:02:46
The Cavs wouldn't swap Tristan for Howard and I don't think the New York wants to take on all of that salary.

15 Jun 2017 21:45:52
One more time because you don't understand. Knicks will not take back Shumpert, JR Smith, Crawford or Frye. Been there, done that.

15 Jun 2017 22:02:01
They would definitely take Shumpert and probably Fry since he's an expiring, but Smith and Crawford are both signed for a few years. Unless it's in combination with a solid package for Melo they wouldn't take them.

15 Jun 2017 17:01:39

ATL get: Lamarcus Aldridge, Jaylen Brown, and SAS 1st DP 2017
Draft: Justin Jackson (19) and Ivan Rabb (29)
Sign: Jeff Teague

pg. Teague
sg. Brown
sf. Bazemore/ Jackson
pf. Aldridge
c. Rabb/ FA

BOS get: Blake Griffin and JJ Reddick
Draft: Markelle Fultz
Sign: Gordon Hayward

pg. Thomas/ Fultz
sg. Bradley/ Reddick
sf. Hayward
pf. Griffin
c. Horford

LAC get: Paul Milsap (s&t), Tony Parker, Jae Crowder, Dennis Schroeder and 2018 1st DP BKN via BOS

pg. Parker/ Schroeder
sg. Rviers/ Crawford
sf. Crowder
pf. Milsap
c. Jordan

SAS get: Dwight Howard and Chris Paul

pg. Paul
sg. Green
sf. Leonard
pf. Gasol
c. Howard

15 Jun 2017 18:02:30
C's can't sign Blake, JJ and Hayward. And then IT next year. Just can't happen mathematically.

15 Jun 2017 18:47:57
wouldnt resign IT, that's where fultz comes in.

15 Jun 2017 19:44:13
Still won't work . Horford, Blake, Hayward and JJ puts you over the cap. Just them 4 alone. Would be nice if only the cap were 130 million.

16 Jun 2017 16:45:08
It's either Griffin or Hayward. Can't be both. Personally, I would love to see them sign Griffin and trade bodies and picks (not this year's #1 pick ) for Butler.

15 Jun 2017 15:44:23
Nets: Bazemore+ Jefferson+ 1rnd pick Indy 2017 + 2018 Wolves pick

Atlanta: M Ellis

Indy: 2rnd pick 2018 Nets

Indy signs Hayward and K Lowry

C: Turner
Pf: Young
SF: PG13
SG: Hayward
PG: K Lowry

15 Jun 2017 16:08:47
Solid idea. I didn't realize how much cap space Indy will have this summer.

15 Jun 2017 16:09:28
no way hawks trade Bazemore for Ellis.

15 Jun 2017 17:06:45
Hate to burst the bubble, but the Celtics own the Nets 2018 first round pick.

15 Jun 2017 17:14:30
My bad, the Nets 2nd Rd pick is listed not the 1st Rd pick. I apologize.

15 Jun 2017 17:20:28
forma. Plus Wolves 2018 1st.

15 Jun 2017 17:38:14
Add a 2nd rounder to the hawks and I think they'll accept.

15 Jun 2017 17:42:50
Atlanta could do the trade.
D Howard likes Ellis and he's on a cheaper contract.

15 Jun 2017 18:28:06
Pacers have almost 79 mil in contracts to 13 players next season, they rid themselves of 21 mil from Big Al and Ellis. Hayward 30 mil
Lowry 25-30 mil

They are way over the cap up near the threshold.

Pacers trade for young inexpensive players and picks and build around Miles Turner.

15 Jun 2017 20:37:07
Excluding team option, the Pacers are at 65 Million total for the roster giving them roughly 40 million to spend if they don't resign any of their free agents . If they dealt those two players they would have over 60 million in cap space.

15 Jun 2017 23:02:10
Rkenne_16, I think your numbers are estimated incorrectly. I used spotrac. com and came to $48 million in cap space if this trade were to happen (although I doubt Atlanta does it) . The cap is to be $101mm and the current cap for Indiana is $74mm. if they renounce the rights to Jeff Teague, CJ Miles, and Aaron Brooks. Then after shedding $21mm in this trade they would be at $53mm. $48mm in space. Lowry and Gordon H. Are not coming to town for a combined $48mm.

14 Jun 2017 17:38:03

ATL get: POR 1st DP 2017, Jahlil Okafor, and Allen Crabbe
Draft: TJ Leaf (15) and Justin Jackson (19)
Let Milsap opt out.
Resign: THJ
Tank for #1 Pick next year.

pg. THJ
sg. Crabbe
sf. Jackson
pf. Leaf
c. Okafor

POR get: Dwight Howard

pg. Lillard
sg. McCollum
sf. Aminu
pf. Nurkic
c. Howard

PHI get: Dennis Schroeder and Meyers Leonard
Draft: Jayson Tatum

pg. Schroeder
sg. Simmons
sf. Tatum
pf. Saric
c. Embiid

14 Jun 2017 17:54:54
Hard pass for Portland and Philly needs to give way more.

14 Jun 2017 18:07:40
No way I'd take Howard, especially not with Nurkic at center already. I don't think the two would work well together. Let alone the drama Howard brings. Overall a hard pass.

14 Jun 2017 19:58:44
Pretty bad for all teams involved except 76ers.

14 Jun 2017 20:51:59
Simmons a shorting guard 😂.

14 Jun 2017 04:24:49

CLE : P.Millsap (s&t) + A.Aminu

POR : K.Love

ATL : A.Crabbe + 15th pick

14 Jun 2017 05:43:42
Please research what Portland needs and wants.

14 Jun 2017 07:01:38
ATL probably getting too much for Millsap in a sign and trade but biggest issue is salary doesn't work. Millsap will likely get the max that starts over 30 mill per year so Cavs would have to deal Shumpert and Frye or something like that to make this work. Millsap and his more well-rounded game I think would benefit the Cavs and having another versatile wing like Aminu would certainly help the Cavs. From a value perspective Cavs are getting short end of stick since nobody gets that type of return in a sign and trade and Portland add Love for relatively cheap.

13 Jun 2017 15:53:45
Cavs get Ryan Anderson, Beverly, Capela, and Anthony

Houston gets Love and O'quinn

The Knicks get Howard, Shumpert, Felder, 2021 1st cle, 20201st Hou, and 2 2nds Atl

13 Jun 2017 16:53:31
That's actually not bad except Howard hating his life. But where doesn't he? lol I honestly don't feel the Cavs will trade any of the Big Three and trade to add around them and get another star or even two if they are lucky. Look for the Cavs to add Wade and Melo without giving up the big three. Melo through trade. Wade through FA if lucky, maybe more likely a reduced salary sign and trade.

13 Jun 2017 17:30:31
Tristan to Atlanta my bad.

13 Jun 2017 17:33:08
As a Cavs fan, Wade on the bench would be amazing, but I don't see him opting out. In the wise words of Randy Moss, " Straight cash homie. "

13 Jun 2017 17:44:09
How does Howard fit in here? He's not in Houston anymore.

13 Jun 2017 17:57:15
Not sure who the Howard is (Dwight Howard left Rockets in FA to ATL last offseason) but salary doesn't work for Cleveland with Anthony making more than Love and Anderson making double what Shumpert makes not to mention Beverly and Capela's contracts. If Channing Frye is sent to Knicks it could work if Cleveland uses a trade exception.

That would be a very solid return on Love and Shumpert for Cavs. I like pickups of Beverly and Capela (only issue is he'll be expensive to keep around) but not crazy about the Anderson and Anthony part. Cavs biggest issues were on the defensive end (they weren't a good defensive team all season) and these are two great offensive players but liabilities on defense end. Love isn't much of a defensive player either (but he is a great rebounder) but I think if they deal him it should include a starting caliber two-way or primarily defensive sf/ pf.

13 Jun 2017 10:34:27

ORL : ATL 1st round pick 2017 + M.Kidd-Gilchrist

ATL : N.Vucevic + C.Zeller

CHA : D.Howard

13 Jun 2017 15:06:42
Why would Charlotte trade for an aging star?

13 Jun 2017 09:05:18

CHA- K.Love + D.Howard

ATL- M.KG + F.Kaminsky + 11th pick

CLE- P.Millsap (s&t) + C.Zeller

13 Jun 2017 09:36:52
I would enjoy this 2 of my favourites love and Howard playing together!

ATL get a decent return for a leaving millsap who I believe would fit nicely next to lebron!

Not bad.

12 Jun 2017 22:50:09
Raptors trade Ibaka (s&t), 23th pick
Hawks trade Milsap (s&t)

12 Jun 2017 17:43:44

Millsap(s&t), Bembry, #21, Return Min 2018 1st for Pekovic, #7

12 Jun 2017 22:19:12
I believe Twolves can apply for Peks medical retirement since he hasn't played for a year and get his contract off the books. Therefore this trade makes no sense for Twolves who can sign Millsap outright and keep the #7.

12 Jun 2017 16:30:25
Atlanta Hawks Offseason
(If Paul Millsap leaves)

-Trade Dwight Howard to Orlando for Bismack Biyombo, CJ Watson, and #35 pick

19- TJ Leaf
31- Tony Bradley
35- Derrick White

-Waive Mike Dunleavy jr and Ryan Kelly

•Free Agency:
-Sign Alex Len 3yr 37m
-Re-sign Tim Hardaway jr 4yr 65m
-Re-sign Mike Muscala 2yr 20m
-Sign Luke Babbitt 1yr 5m
-Re-sign Kris Humphries 1yr 4m

PG: Schroeder, Delaney, Watson
SG: Hardaway, Bazemore, White
SF: Prince, Bembry, Babbitt
PF: Muscala, Leaf, Humphries
C: Biyombo, Len, Bradley.

12 Jun 2017 17:11:49
Orlando turns that down. They end up with an older center making more money that isn't going to be good for their young guys. I'm not sure the fans or the organization have really forgiven him and his talent really doesn't trump that at this point.

12 Jun 2017 20:13:48
Maybe Dwight could bounce back and get Orlando back in the playoffs. They'd still have some cap space to get a small forward or point guard.

12 Jun 2017 22:21:36
Not sure how Orlando still feels about Howard but Biyombo isn't taking them anywhere so maybe its worth bringing Howard back to sell more tickets and have an outside chance of tricking another FA to come to Orlando.

12 Jun 2017 03:01:42


atl- gasol/ green/ 29 pick 2017
sas- howard

sign- paul
sign some vet. wm cheap salary like sefolosha/ jeff green/ thomas robinson/ tyler ennis

sign rookie hanga/ milutinuv

line up
pg. paul/ murray/ ennis
sg. sefolosha/ hanga/ ginobili
sf. leonard/ green/ anderson
pf. aldridge/ bertans/ lee
c. howard/ robinson/ milutinuv.

12 Jun 2017 07:25:10
I don't hate it but unfortunately doesn't look like Parker is going to retire. I also think Spurs would be wise to get a little younger. Maybe ship Aldridge away to Hornets for their #11 pick and cap relief then just sign a replacement. Howard would be a relatively cheap pickup but I'd also like to see Spurs go after Jordan although he'd take a bit more to get to come over.

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