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21 Jun 2017 16:26:40
Nuggets-Magic-Thunder

Nuggets get #6 pick, Enes Kanter, and Doug McDermott
-Draft Jonathan Isaac to be Jokic's front court parter

Magic get #13 pick, #21 pick, Emmanuel Mudiay, and Malik Beasley
-Just another Orlando move

Thunder get Wilson Chandler, Darell Arthur, Mario Hezonja, and #35 pick
-Pick up better fits for their roster.

20 Jun 2017 19:47:31
DEN-CLE-IND

Denver gives faried, hernangomez, Beasley, and either mudiay or this year's lottery pick
Denver gets klove

Cleveland gives love and gets PG

Indiana gives PG
Indiana gets faried, hernangomez, Beasley, and mudiay or 1st rounder

19 Jun 2017 23:28:10
Cavs Get: Paul George, Al Jefferson

Pacers Get: Kenneth Faried, Iman Shumpert, Malik Beasley, 13th pick, 2021 Cavs 1st

Nuggets Get: Kevin Love

20 Jun 2017 02:54:08
Nuggets should be giving up more, Cavs already taking a risk with the move they don't need Jefferson who is a dinosaur.

19 Jun 2017 20:05:21
Nuggets offseason

Nuggets: Paul George and Thaddeus young

Pacers: kenneth faried,emanuel mudiay, 2017 lottery pick and 2018 1st round pick

Sign chris paul. Max


2017/18 lineup

Chris Paul/Jameer Nelson
Wilson Chandler/Malik beasley
Paul George/Will Barton
Thaddeus Young/Darrel Arthur
Nikola Jokic/Roy Hibbert

20 Jun 2017 01:07:59
Murray making the squad?

19 Jun 2017 15:08:00
The Pacers get the 13th pick, Abrines, Sabonis, Felder, Osman, Kanter, OKC 2022 1st, the Cavs 2021, and swap rights in 2020 and 2022 with the Cavs.

Gives Jefferson and George

The Cavs get George, Chandler, and Jefferson

Gives Felder, Osman, Love, Shumpert, Frye, swap rights 20 22 and their 21

OKC gets Gallonari and Frye

Gives Kanter, Sabonis, Abrines, and a 2021 1st

Denver gets Love and Shumpert

Gives Chandler, Gallonari, and the 13th overall

19 Jun 2017 17:05:27
Cavs already traded away 2021 1st Rd pick and swap rights with the Cavs are less than worthless.

19 Jun 2017 17:28:09
The Cavs don't have a pick in 17 and 2019 they have their 2021 pick. The swap rights could be worth something since they'll be 3 and 5 years from now.

19 Jun 2017 13:33:15
Nuggets trade Mudiay, Murray, Faried, 13th pick
Pacers trade George

Nuggets:
- sign Lowry(4y 120m)
- resign Gallo(4y 100m), Plumlee(3y 50m), Hibbert(1y vet min)
- keep salary to resign George, Barton and Harris in 2018
Lowry/Nelson
Harris/Barton/Beasley
George/Chandler/Barton
Gallo/Hernangomez/Arthur
Jokic/Plumlee/Hibbert
- add 2x 2nd round picks (PG and another)
- Nuggets have everything to convince George to stay and Lowry to come over to WC
- elite talent, experience, athletism, length, depth... contender for years to come

Pacers:
- rebuild around their young talents Turner, Mudiay, Murray and 13th + 18th + 47th pick
- let FAs walk (Teague, Miles, Brooks)
Mudiay/J.Young
Murray/Ellis/Robinson
#Draft/Stephenson/T.Young
Faried/T.Young/Christmas
Turner/Jefferson/Seraphin
- add draft picks
- let talents learn from veterans like Ellis, Jefferson, Stephenson, Young
- with 1 or 2 another lottery picks in 2018 and 2019, Pacers can be relevant within some years of rebuild/development

19 Jun 2017 13:47:53
swap harris from murray.

19 Jun 2017 01:46:18
Pacers-Nuggets-Cavs

Cavs:
Receive - Paul George and Al Jefferson

Pacers:
Receive - Jamal Murray, Gary Harris, #13 pick

Nuggets:
Receive - Kevin Love, #18 pick, #47 pick, Cavs 2020 and 2021 1st rounder

19 Jun 2017 07:01:58
I think this is more realistic than a straight Love for George swap with Pacers getting back younger assets. I'd put my faith in Lebron to convince George to stay (so long as George would have enough Bird years and Cavs wouldn't need cap space to resign him) . George would be a major upgrade over Love on both ends of the court and improve their athleticism and matchup against Warriors.

If Cavs wanted to move away from the big 3 I think another way to improve would be to deal just with Nuggets and get a package of like Chandler, Harris, Faried and Hernangomez for Love and Frye (for salary) .

20 Jun 2017 04:33:26
You are out of your mind! Denver is crazy to give up Harris and Murray for picks. never going to happen. Might as well trade Jokic for a pick too.

18 Jun 2017 17:09:48
Pacers Offseason:

Trade 18 to Portland for 20 and 26
Trade 20 to Pistons for Marcus Morris
Trade 26 and Ellis to Nuggets for Will Barton
Trade 47 and Jefferson to Brooklyn for 2018 2nd rounder
Resign Teague 3y54m
Resign Miles 2y24m
Sign Rudy Gay 2y24m
Sign Willie Reed 2y12m
Sign Dedmon 3y33m

Teague/Stephenson
Gay/Barton/Robinson III
George/Miles/Robinson III
Young/Morris/Reed
Turner/Dedmon/Seraphin

Thoughts?

18 Jun 2017 18:42:04
Those are all pretty one sided favoring the Pistons.

18 Jun 2017 18:59:01
Pacers*.

19 Jun 2017 01:27:32
Nuggets whould never do that (moneywise)! The other trades are pretty solid though!

19 Jun 2017 21:24:33
So the Pistons take Ellis, #20, and #26 and turn them into Morris and Barton? Why wouldn't Portland just do these deals with one of their guys instead of Ellis?

18 Jun 2017 17:02:21
Pelicans offseason

Trade #1

Pels - Wilson Chandler

Nuggets - Solomon Hill, pick #40, future 2nd rounder

Upgrade shooter at SF and use at stretch 4

Trade #2

Pels - Gerald Henderson

Sixers - Omir Asik, 2018 top 10 protected that turns into 2019 unprotected

Philly regains a pick they sent to Boston while eating asik contract which they can use the stretch provision and wave him

Sign Tim Hardaway 4 yr 70 mill
Sign Kyle Korver 2 yr 15 million


Use bird rights to go over the cap and resign Jrue ( yes benson will have to pay the tax but he has said he wants to win now)

2017-2018 lineup

PG - Holiday - Frazier
SG - Hardaway - Henderson - Moore
SF - Chandler - Korver
PF - Davis - Diello
C - Cousins - Aijanca.

19 Jun 2017 03:16:25
Nuggets don't make that Chandler deal.

19 Jun 2017 15:48:14
Sant12 If Benson goes over cap why would he not make a bigger splash than Hardaway and Chandler? Why not chase Lowry or Paul.

18 Jun 2017 05:52:45
Brooklyn Nets Offseason


-Cavs-Nuggets-Nets

Cavs get Brook Lopez, Kenneth Faried, Wilson Chandler, Jameer Nelson, and #49 pick (via DEN)

Nuggets get Kevin Love, Iman Shumpert, and #22 pick (via BRK)

Nets get Tristan Thompson, JR Smith, and #13 pick (via DEN)

•Draft:
13- Lauri Markkanen
27- Tony Bradley

•Free Agency:
-Sign Shabazz Muhammad 3yr 40m

Lineup:
PG: Lin, Whitehead, Dinwiddie
SG: Smith, Kilpatrick, Goodwin
SF: RHJ, Muhammad, LeVert
PF: Markkanen, Booker, Nicholson
C: Thompson, Hamilton, Bradley.

18 Jun 2017 07:11:44
Personally don't think Lopez on an expiring deal is worth #13 let alone adding Thompson and Smith even if they are giving up #22. Additionally, don't like return for Cavs. They should be able to get close to this return for Love alone, losing 3 other key rotational players as well doesn't make this trade make any sense. They lose star power and depth in this trade.

19 Jun 2017 18:40:06
Actually I think that's good to all parties!

17 Jun 2017 18:03:11
Pacers-Nuggets-Thunder

Pacers get Mudiay, Kanter, Barton, McDermott, #13 pick, #21 pick, and Nuggets 2019 1st

Nuggets get Paul George and Monta Ellis

Thunder get Wilson Chandler, Al Jefferson, and #47 pick.

18 Jun 2017 04:18:08
Not a fan of Denver getting George since don't like his chances of resigning there since not only is it not LA but that Nuggets team wouldn't even be a real contender. That price for him is rather cheap tho so maybe Denver roles the dice instead of being stuck as fringe playoff team.

Chandler and his versatile game would be a solid fit for the Thunder.

Not a great return for the Pacers and not the type I'd be looking for. Depth is something you should focus on after you have a star (although nowadays you need more than 1). Since Pacers are dealing a star they should be trying to get a star (or someone who potentially could be a star in the future) . I don't see any potential stars there and the likelihood of those draft picks yielding one is slim.

16 Jun 2017 09:19:30
Indy should go all in, if PG13 would like to stay

1) Indy- Atl-Nets

Indy: 2rnd pick Nets 2018

Atl: M Ellis
Atlanta could do this because D12 need shooters, ellis is a friend and Atlanta could enter the free agent marktet in 2020, when both contracts end.

Nets: Bazemore+ Jefferson+ 1rnd pick Indy 2017+ Wolves pick 2018 (top 12 protected)
The Nets take bad contracts, for draft picks, so they can rebuilt.

2) Indy- Denver
Indy; Faried
Denver: Young+ Nets 2nd round pick 2018

3) Indy would have about 54M in capspace, so they could sign Hayward and Lowry
also sign L Stephenson and Z-Bo for the vet minimum
And sign Rondo with the mid level exception

C: M turner/Z-Bo/Seraphin
Pf: Farried/ Z-BO/ L Allen
SF: PG13/ L Stephenson/ G Robinson
SG: G Hayward/ CJ Miles/ G Robinson
PG: K Lowry/Rondo/Booker

16 Jun 2017 12:54:55
Why would Indy trade Faried for Young and why would they trade #18.

16 Jun 2017 13:43:15
Because he's on a cheaper contract and Lowry, Hayward, PG13 and Miles can shoot, so they need a rebounder.

16 Jun 2017 14:39:01
same thing. hawks would never trade Bazemore for Ellis. Ellis is on the decline, Bazemore a solid wing player in his prime, he has much more value.

16 Jun 2017 14:39:59
if Ellis is so good, take out Hawks and make it a more realistic 2 team trade.

16 Jun 2017 05:31:17
DEN-CLE

Cleveland gives k-love

Denver gives Wilson Chandler, Malik Beasley, will Barton and either hernangomez or a first

Getting PG would obviously be better but getting younger, and a couple more two way wing players would be huge for Cleveland. I don't think they really need Kevin love, they won in 2016 with little from him, two way wing players match up better against gsw and lessen lebrons load.

The froutcort pairing of live and jokic would be absolutely amazing offensively. This pairing along with the young guards they have could do some serious damage. They use some of that surplus depth they have to get jokic a star frontcourt partner.

16 Jun 2017 06:54:29
I think Cleveland's best way to improve is to trade Love not because he was necessarily the issue but since they need to shake things up and his role can likely be played by a less talented player.

Cleveland should be getting more than this. Beasley is a little raw for Cavs and Barton is a great scorer but not as great defensively and is entering UFA after next year. I think Chandler would be the perfect versatile forward to pair with Lebron. I'd do something like Love and Shumpert for Chandler, Faried, Harris and Arthur/ Hernangomez. This would give Cleveland a versatile starting forward in Chandler, a rebound machine and energy guy in Faried who helps with depth, Harris a young guy that took a big leap this past year on both ends and unlike Barton is a RFA after next season so Cavs can retain him with Bird rights, and a stretch four (Arthur is better defensively and more ready to contribute but Hernangomez is younger and offers more upside and is cheaper) .

Nuggets have a gluttony of assets and would be wise to consolidate them into a star like Love. Love would be their #1 or #2 option with Jokic and I think would be much improved in this role since he is a offensive player. That duo would struggle defensively but would be hard to defend. They could keep Galo on the wing and have Barton and Murray to fill in for Harris. I think Nuggets would then try and use their #13 pick to upgrade at point guard position (Bledsoe or Rubio) and not sure how much cap space they'd have remaining (I guess they should resign Plumlee after giving up so much for him) .

14 Jun 2017 20:54:06
Cle-NYK-Den

Cavs trade Love, Shumpert, Frye
Receive: Melo, O'Quinn, Barton

Get deeper and another scorer.

Knicks trade Melo, O'Quinn
Recieve: Shumpert, Frye, Faried, #13

Get lottery pick and Faried to start next to Porzingis

Nuggets trade Barton, #13, Faried
Receive: Love

Get a perfect running mate for Jokic

17 Jun 2017 23:35:57
This is a really good trade for all sides except I think another first has to come from Cleveland down the road for NYK. this is the best looking trade for Denver, NYK, and Cleveland I could think of.

14 Jun 2017 17:15:00
Knicks offseason

Trade #1

Knicks: Wilson chandler,faried and #13 pick

Cavs:Melo and O quinn

Nuggets:kevin love,shumpert and lance thomas

Trade #2

Knicks:#1 pick and crowder

Celtics:#8 pick and porzingis

Draft
#1 Markelle fultz
#13 Donovan mitchell


Sign
Greg Monroe 4 yr 60 mill
Darren collison 2 yr 10 mill


2017/18 Lineup

Markelle Fultz/Darren Collison
Wilson Chandler/Courtney Lee
Jae Crowder/Donovan Mitchell
Kenneth Faried/Willy Hernangomez
Greg Monroe/Joakim Noah

14 Jun 2017 17:32:47
Melo isn't worth any where near that. The Cavs are getting robbed. Porzingis is worth more than that in the 2nd trade. The 1st and Crowder for him alone seems cheap. No need to add the 8th.

14 Jun 2017 20:07:53
If I'm Cavs I'd 100% prefer to get Chandler, Faried and #13 than Melo. Not sure how Melo is any improvement over Love in fact I'd argue he'd be worse since he is just as bad a defender, he is a high volume, ball-dominant scorer on offense who will have a big adjustment period to playing with two other ball-dominant players (offense wasn't really the issue with Cavs against Warriors they literally set historic numbers on that end) and not half the rebounder or outlet passer Love is. I'd just take Knicks out and swap Garry Harris for the #13 pick and add Arthur or Hernangomez if I was Cavs.

Trade 2 I agree with rkenne_16. Porzingis' value should be at least #1 and crowder. Porzingis is one of the top prospects in the league and has a unique physical and basketball skill set. Fultz looks good but he may never become as good as Porzingis already is and who knows how long it will take him to get there. I don't like the idea of giving up Porzingis to rebuild but its even more foolish to give up a lotto pick as well.

14 Jun 2017 23:29:01
One more time-the Knicks are not trading Porzingis to Celts.

14 Jun 2017 16:58:30
Cavs get Gallinari, Chandler, and Faried

Nuggets get Love, Shumpert, and Frye

14 Jun 2017 20:55:12
I think Nuggets would be a prime candidate for Love to be traded to. However, I think they only should get 2 out of 3 of these guys since they are all sf/ pf types and how many of those do you really need when you have Lebron playing 40+ mins in the playoffs.

I don't think Cavs issues were on offensive end really so I'd swap Gallinari for Harris which would would not only save Cavs some money in short term (potentially avoid luxury for 1 year then use Harris' bird rights to resign him in RFA) but give them some youth and a versatile guard at the sg spot who can do a little bit of everything.

Also, I'd try to get someone like Arthur or Hernangomez to act as a 3pt threat at the pf position since they lose that giving away Love and Frye and although Chandler is a solid 3pt shooter I don't think he is as good as them.

If I'm Nuggets I'd be all over this. They've been looking to consolidate their assets for a star for awhile and I still think Love is a still a star caliber player especially in the bigger role he'd play in Denver. He and Jokic would make a pretty bad defensive duo but they'd be potent offensively.

I think next move for Denver would be to move #13 pick for a starting caliber point guard like Bledsoe (would probably need a little back from Phx)

14 Jun 2017 16:29:49
IF YOU CAN MAKE THE SPLASH IN FA. ITS BEST CASE SENARIO WITHOUT BLOWING UP THE BIG 3
4trade team deal sign and trade
Cavs get Hayward
Jazz get W Chandler plus something like a pick (lets say one or two second rounders)
Nuggets getT Thompson plus 2ndround pick/youngplayer from nets
Nets get Shumpert

Makes sense for nuggets because they get a quality center who can cover up for jokic deficiencies and nets get a good player for nothing. Nuggets can later trade plumlee and nets shumpert to other teams

With that trade cavs have saved 28 million. let's say they give hayward around 20-22 mill. If they add the MLE and Lebron gets a paycut they have around 10-12 million to spend for a quality center. Now Paul Millsap would be a reach but I believe Serge Freaking IBAKA would sign with the cavs. Alternative options are Dedmon of spurs and Amir Johnson Taj Gibson and Andrew Bogut.

Then use bird rights to resign Korver . Resign Frye. Offer minimums to NENE (he is a ring chaser and took a minimum to play for houston) Speights (knows warriors philosophy) beno udrih/jose calderon

Depht Chart
PG Irving/Udrih/D Will
SG (Hayward)/Korver/JR Smirh
SF LeBron/ (Hayward)/Jefferson
PF Love/ Frye
C Ibaka(or any of the other mentioned)/Speights/Nene

14 Jun 2017 16:53:57
Why does Utah, Brooklyn, or Denver do this?

14 Jun 2017 17:27:48
Get your head down and read why it makes sense. Why doesn't it?

14 Jun 2017 17:28:11
Why doesn't it make sense I mean.

14 Jun 2017 18:11:35
None of those teams outside of Cleveland would even consider it, especially Utah.

14 Jun 2017 18:24:22
Hayward is not going to sign a contract for 20-22 million especially on a S&T.

13 Jun 2017 23:56:48
Pacers-Nuggets-Cavs

Cavs:
Trade - Kevin Love
Receive - Paul George and Al Jefferson

Pacers:
Trade - Paul George and Al Jefferson
Receive - Jamal Murray, #13 pick and 2nd round picks #49 and #51

Nuggets:
Trade - Jamal Murray, #13 pick and 2nd round picks #49 and #51
Receive - Kevin Love

Pacers: Offer Kentavious Caldwell-Pope max contract. Let Teague and Miles walk. Pick up Allen's team option. Resign Robinson III and Seraphin. Trade all 2nd rounders (17, 49, 51) and Ellis to Nets for #22 pick. Draft OG Anuboy (#13 pick) and Luke Kennard (#18 pick) and John Collins (#22 pick).

Starting line up

Stephenson/ Murray/ Young
Caldwell-Pope/ Kennard
Robinson III/ Anuboy
Young/ Allen/ Collins
Turner/ Seraphin

17 Jun 2017 23:38:08
Denver won't (and has clearly stated this) trade Murray. Barton? Maybe.

13 Jun 2017 23:55:19
Pacers-Nuggets-Cavs

Cavs:
Trade - Kevin Love
Receive - Paul George and Al Jefferson

Pacers:
Trade - Paul George and Al Jefferson
Receive - Jamal Murray, #13 pick and 2nd round picks #49 and #51

Nuggets:
Trade - Jamal Murray, #13 pick and 2nd round picks #49 and #51
Receive - Kevin Love

Pacers: Offer Kentavious Caldwell-Pope max contract. Let Teague and Miles walk. Pick up Allen's team option. Resign Robinson III and Seraphin. Trade all 2nd rounders (17, 49, 51) and Ellis to Nets for #22 pick. Draft OG Anuboy (#13 pick) and Luke Kennard (#18 pick) and John Collins (#22 pick) .

Starting line up

Stephenson/ Murray/ Young
Caldwell-Pope/ Kennard
Robinson III/ Anuboy
Young/ Allen/ Collins
Turner/ Seraphin.

11 Jun 2017 13:20:55
Nuggets has to take a chance to land P.George

Pacers trade George, 18th pick
Pacers get Mudiay, Faried, 7th pick Wolves, 13th pick Nugets

Nuggets trade Mudiay, Chandler, Faried, 13th pick
Nuggets get George, J.Hill (waive)

Wolves trade J.Hill, 7th pick
Wolves get Chandler, 18th pick Pacers

Pacers:
- Pacers need future guard/scorer and wing so draft Monk with #7 pick (best shooter in 2017 Draft) and Justin Jackson with #13 pick (3&D SF with high Basketball-IQ and -leadership)
- resign Teague, let the talents learn from the vets (Teague, Ellis, T.Young, Jefferson all from bench)
- rebuild around young talents
Mudiay/Teague/2nd round pick
#7Monk/Ellis/Teague/Stephenson
#13Ju.Jackson/T.Young/Stephenson
Faried/T.Young/Turner
Turner/Jefferson/Seraphin


Nuggets:
- waive J.Hill, M.Miller
- sign Lowry (more likely) or CP3 at PG
- resign Plumlee, Hibbert
Lowry/Nelson/2nd round draft
Harris/Murray/Beasley
George/Barton/Gallinari
Gallinari/Hernangomez/Arthur
Jokic/Plumlee/Hibbert
- Nuggets give up much in this trade, but they will be contender from day 1 and their ceiling is even higher (Jokic, Murray, Harris, Hernangomez still growing)

Wolves:
- draft PF Leaf, Collins or Giles with #18 pick
- let Payne walk, resign Casspi
- buy 2nd round pick from 76ers to select SG
Rubio/Dunn/Jones
LaVine/Rush/2nd round pick
Wiggins/Chandler/Casspi
Dieng//#18Leaf/Bjelica
Towns/Pekovic/Aldrich

11 Jun 2017 15:52:06
No way Minnesota does that deal. Chandler not good enough to drop 11 spots in a loaded draft.

11 Jun 2017 17:27:34
Good effort, but yeah people often screw the facilitating team, in this case it was the Wolves.

12 Jun 2017 05:11:50
What is Jamal Murray's trade value?

 
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