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23 Sep 2017 04:20:47
DET-NY-HOU

DET : R.Anderson + 1st round pick HOU (2020)

NY : R.Jackson + T.Ariza + 1st round pick HOU (2018) + 2nd round pick DET + some waiveable contracts from HOU

HOU : C.Anthony + H.Ellenson

I think this is a fair offer for NY to deal Melo to Rockets finally. Detroit get an equally terrible contract but get a 1st while Anderson fits very well behind Drummond and knows SVG system very well

13 Sep 2017 02:33:17
Spurs/ Pistons:

To SAS - Drummond

To DET - LMA, White, 2018 1st

Spurs move Gasol back to the four, where his much improved 3PT shooting last year would fit well, and add another defensive centrepiece to go with Kawhi.

Pistons slide Harris over to the three, where they are barren right now and take more advantage of his shooting and defensive versatility. LMA steps in at the four, and Leuer at the five. LMA's superior offensive skills to Drummond's play well in a system where he would see more touches than he did in San Antonio. Pistons also pick up two young assets.

11 Sep 2017 20:50:50
Cavs Pistons

Cavs receive
Drummond

Pistons receive
Thompson
Osman
Cavs 2021 first round pick
Cavs 2020 second round pick from Miami

11 Sep 2017 22:18:43
Without the nets pick, I don't see a Cleveland/ Detroit swap involving Drummond.

11 Sep 2017 18:38:06
Chicago Bulls Re-Build

Buy Dwayne Wade out

SAS - DET - CHI

SAS get: Tobias Harris and Kris Dunn

pg. Mills/ Dunn (Parker)
sg. Green/ Ginobli
sf. Leonard/ Anderson
pf. Harris/ Gay
c. Gasol/ Lauvergne

DET get: Robin Lopez and Lamarcus Aldridge

pg. Bradley/ Smith
sg. Kennard/ Galloway
sf. Bullock/ Ellenson
pf. Aldridge/ Leuer
c. Lopez/ Marjonovic

CHI get: Andre Drummond, Reggie Jackson, Stanley Johnson, and 2018 1st DP SAS

pg. Jackson/ Payne
sg. LaVine/ Holiday
sf. Johnson/ Pondexter
pf. Markkanen/ Mirotic
c. Drummond/ Portis

11 Sep 2017 19:47:12
That's not that bad if I was bulls I'd do that.

11 Sep 2017 23:03:01
Only Chicago really benefits from this. No way Detroit does this.

13 Sep 2017 14:26:59
No way spurs do this.

13 Sep 2017 17:46:04
Wait, wait, wait... Chicago only give Dunn and Robin Lopez and get Drummond, Jackson, Stanley Johnson and two 1st picks? Are you serious? Nice joke!

11 Sep 2017 02:51:33
Cavaliers-Pistons-Lakers

Cavaliers get Bradley & Marjanovic

Pistons get Clarkson & Shumpert

Lakers get Frye (exp) & Cavs own 1st 2018

11 Sep 2017 04:33:12
pistons say no.

10 Sep 2017 15:29:12
Cleveland-Detroit
Cleveland Recieves- Avery Bradley, Andre Drummond
Detroit Recieves- 2018 Nets first, 2020 Cavs First, Thompson, Tavares, Shumpert, Felder

08 Sep 2017 06:49:03
heat : john wall, sheldon mac
pistons : dragic, gortat, olynyk
wizards : drummond, jackson, 1st round pick

08 Sep 2017 08:02:48
So the Wizards sign Wall long term just to trade him? Not happening.

08 Sep 2017 23:29:27
Oh wow that is just awful for the Wizards.

09 Sep 2017 17:51:36
This is potentially one of the worst deals ever posted on this site, which is no surprise coming from Miami honk Niko.

Washington might as well trade Beal for Courtney Lee and Otto Porter for CJ Miles while they're dealing Wall for garbage. Wall for Dragic, uh, no.

07 Sep 2017 01:57:50
OKC gets:
Marc Gasol
Stanley Johnson
James Ennis

Memphis gets:
Andre Drummond
Doug McDermott
OKC 1st
DET 1st
CHI 2nd via OKC

Detroit gets:
Steven Adams
Kyle Singler
OKC 2nd

OKC goes all in hoping to convince Russ and George to stay long term.

Memphis moves on from Gasol and get a younger premier center, a shooter, and picks.

Detroit gets a stud defensive big in Adams who fits the mold of the old bad boy Pistons.

07 Sep 2017 04:54:29
Detroit gets completely screwed. Even if they don't include Johnson and their first, it's still bad for them.

07 Sep 2017 13:15:59
The Grizzlies said yesterday that Gasol is untouchable in any deal that doesn't blow their socks off. This deal doesn't blow their socks off.

07 Sep 2017 14:48:05
I'm actually not sure why OKC would do this. I love Gasol and everything, and he's the best of the three centers involved with this trade, but is he that much of an upgrade over Adams that you'd want to give up multiple picks? With an offense that already includes George and Westbrook, there's only so much ball to go around. What you need in that case are high upside role players, which is what Adams is. He rebounds and blocks at right around the same rate as Gasol does, and he's 8 years younger and on pretty much the same contract.

07 Sep 2017 15:55:47
Blocks and defense aren't the same. Gasol is an elite defender, Adams isn't. Gasol is also one of the best passing bigs I've ever seen, and a great scorer. And yes, you need more scorers, always.

Gasol is a top 5 center in the NBA. Adams maybe is top 20. Yes, Gasol is considerably better than Adams.

I feel like a comparative question is "Is Paul George really that much better than Trevor Ariza? " The answer is clearly yes.

04 Sep 2017 19:44:15
SAS - DET - CLE

SAS get: Tristan Thompson, Reggie Jackson, and Stanley Johnson

DET get: Kevin Love and Danny Green

CLE get: Andre Drummond and Lamarcus Aldridge

05 Sep 2017 05:19:50
Bad value for the Spurs. I don't see Jackson really being a big upgrade at the point for them or a good fit in their system. Johnson and Thompson are both nice pieces, but not really worth giving up Aldridge and Green for.

Detroit would make the playoffs for sure after this trade, but would be out in the first round. They should keep Drummond and Johnson, who they may make the playoffs with anyway. They both have plenty of upside and Detroit has time to put a team around them.

I'm torn on this for Cleveland. They get great value, but I think Aldridge is a terrible fit. Love doesn't get a ton of plays designed for him and for long stretches then shots he does get are off kick out 3s and offensive rebounds. While a pretty good rebounder, Aldridge isn't on Loves level and he doesn't have range out to the 3. He looks lost in the Spurs offensive sometimes. I think that only gets worse in Cleveland. Plus, until Thomas is back the spacing of the Cavs starting unit will be a disaster.

03 Sep 2017 17:32:57
Cavs Toronto Det

Cavs receive
Drummond

Toronto receives
Thompson
Osman
2021 first round pick or 2 second round picks in 2019, 2020

Detroit receives
Valanciunas
Shumpert

03 Sep 2017 16:00:21
Mid-Season Trade
Nets get:
F Kevin Love

Pistons get:
C Tristan Thompson
F Trevor Booker (expiring)
G D'Angelo Russell
G Caris LaVert
18' Nets 1st Round Pick via Raptors

Cavaliers get:
C Andre Drummond
G Avery Bradley (expiring)
F Rondae Hollis-Jefferson

Scenarios
Nets: Russell shows much of the same as in Year 2. Nets pair him with two of their young wings and the Raptors pick for Kevin Love, a borderline All-Star in the Eastern Conference.
Pistons: Drummond doesn't step up his defensive ability. They move on from his contract and get a cheaper replacement in Thompson, a younger guard than Jackson in Russell, and a potential long term option at the SG or SF position in LaVert. If they are not in the playoff picture and they realize Bradley won't resign, they'll be glad to take a pick for him.
Cavaliers:
They upgrade their center position with acquiring Drummond and get more equipped to defend the Warriors with Bradley and RHJ. They can start Thomas/Bradley/Crowder/LeBron/Drummond and if the Warriors go small, they can input RHJ or maybe even Dwyane Wade if he's bought out. I doubt the Cavaliers will move the Nets pick if they don't know LeBron's future.

03 Sep 2017 16:58:58
I'm not saying he's not more valuable, but I doubt the Cavs would move Love for Drummond straight up and I don't think anything they get back is worth giving up the Brooklyn pick for. It's a pretty terrible deal for the Cavs.

03 Sep 2017 17:28:43
Looking at it more, it's pretty terrible for Brooklyn too. Love is really good, but they still aren't a playoff team with him. Why give up some of their best young players for him? This really only makes sense for the Pistons who get an absurd return on Bradley and Drummond.

02 Sep 2017 03:47:56
Pelicans final move

Pels - Tobias Harris

Pistons - E'twann Moore, Alexei Ajainca, 2018 Top 10 protected

Pistons plan on starting Stanley Johnson at SF and Joe Luer at PF, clears playing time while gaining a pick

Pels not only fill a hole but improve from Solomon Hill
* Pels can financially make the trade after the trade with Chicago

Lineup

PG - Rondo - Crawford
SG - Holiday - Clark
SF - Harris - Miller (Hill injured)
PF - Davis - Diallo
C - Cousins - Asik.

02 Sep 2017 13:06:46
Trash pack for Harris. No way.

02 Sep 2017 15:28:55
How bout that package of Pelicans for Evan Fournier? With the Simmons signing, Fournier is the odd man out. Would give Orlando more playing time for Isaac and Hezonja while gaining a 1st rd pick.

02 Sep 2017 16:15:07
Harris is easily the Pistons' best forward.

31 Aug 2017 12:21:57
Cavaliers/Pistons/Grizzlies

Cavaliers get Gasol
- get a more flexible vet center to even get stronger

Thomas/Rose/Calderon
Crowder/Smith
James/Green/Korver
Love/Frye/Jefferson
Gasol/Zizic/Tavares

Pistons get Conley & Thompson
- get a point guard who can lead them, Conley and Bradley could be one of best back court defensive duo

Conley/Smith
Bradley/Galloway/Kennard
Harris/Johnson
Leuer/Tolliver/Ellenson
Thompson/Marjanovic

Grizzlies get Drummond , Jackson , Shumpert & Cavs 2018 1st round pick
- go with youth movement now

Jackson/Chalmers
Baldwin/Shumpert
Parsons/Evans/McLemore
Green/Rabb
Drummond/Wright

31 Aug 2017 12:51:04
Not sure how that's a youth movement, it looks like two teams dumping salary on the Grizz and a late first round pick.

31 Aug 2017 23:22:18
It would need to be nets pick

27 Aug 2017 18:32:05
2 trades and 2 free agent signings the Pistons can do to be more competitive

(TRADE 1)
Pistons get:
(GS)
SG K. Thompson

Mavs get:
(GS)
PG P. McCaw + '19 2nd (DAL pick)
(DET)
PF H. Ellenson

Warriors get:
(DET)
PG R. Jackson + '18 1st (UP)
(DAL)
SG S. Curry

Pistons add a star player who helps in an area the pistons lack in production (3 point %). They insert him at SG while Bradley moves over to PG. They give up Jackson, Ellenson and 2018 1st round pick to do so.

Mavs add McCaw who would fill the void of Curry at SG but comes off the bench. They also add a future replacement for when Nowitski retires and resembles a similar play as a decent 3 point shooter for a PF. They also get back their 2019 2nd round pick they traded to the Warriors ahwile ago.

Warriors add Jackson who can be a reliable piece off the bench or move to SG. They also get an unprotected 1st round pick next year from the Pistons. They also get Steph Currys little brother who also is a good 3 point shooter and can go to SG.

SALARIES match for incoming and outcoming salaries.

Pistons recieve $17,826,150
Pistons send out $17,780,800

Mavs recieve $3,093,411
Mavs send out $3,028,410

Warriors recieve $19,028,410
Warriors send out $19,138,761

(TRADE 2)
Pistons get:
(MIN)
'18 2nd (top 40) + '20 2nd (UP)
(PHI)
C J. Okafor

Wolves get:
(PHI)
'18 2nd (HOU pick)
(DET)
PF J. Leuer

76ers get:
(DET)
'19 1st (Right to swap: DET-PHI)*
(MIN)
C C. Aldrich

*: pistons would recieve '19 2nd (NYK pick) and '20 2nd (DAL pick) if PHI excerices the swap

Pistons add 2 draft picks with a possible 3 more if the 76ers swap 1st in 2019. They recieve a 2nd that's top 40 protected in 2018 and a 2020 2nd that's unprotected from the Wolves. They also recieve Okafor who replaces Leuer on the depth chart.

Wolves add a 2018 2nd that's HOUs pick and Leuer (whos from Minnesota) to play at PF.

76ers add a right to swap 2019 1st round picks with the Pistons and if they choose to do so, theyd give them a 2019 2nd (Knicks pick) and a 2020 2nd (Mavs pick). They also recieve Aldrich to be a replacement for Okafor on the depth chart. His salary for the 2018-2019 season is partial guaranteed.

(FREE AGENTS)
PG Jason Terry or Trey Burke
1 year $2,000,000
$3,000,000 team option in year 2

SG James Young
1 year $1,250,000
$1,250,000 team option in year 2

Terry provides 3 point shooting and veteran leadership. Burke adds youth. Young adds youth and athleticism.

(DEPTH CHART)
PG:
Avery Bradley
Ish Smith
Jason Terry / Trey Burke
SG:
Klay Thompson
Langston Galloway
James Young
SF:
Stanley Johnson
Luke Kennard
Reggie Bullock
PF:
Tobias Harris
Jahlil Okafor
Anthony Tolliver
C:
Andre Drummond
Boban Marjanovic
Eric Moreland

27 Aug 2017 18:55:40
Sooooooo. Pistons give up Reggie Jackson, Henry Ellenson, and a 2nd rounder. And they get Klay Thompson? I hope this is a joke.

27 Aug 2017 19:31:42
I said unprotected 1st round in 2018, lol.

27 Aug 2017 19:55:30
I'm not even sure Jackson has positive value at this point.

27 Aug 2017 21:49:20
Lol is right to that trade, it's a joke.

27 Aug 2017 23:23:08
I'm confused as to why Golden State does this trade.

24 Aug 2017 15:44:10
Boston: Drummond+ Nogueira

Toronto: Horford

Detroit: Valanciunas+ CJ Miles+ 1rnd pick LA (or sac 2019)

Boston:
C: Drummond/Nogueira
PF: Morris/ Yabusele
SF: Hayward/Tatum
SG: Smart/ J Brown
PG: Irving/ Rozier


Tor:
C:Ibaka/Poetl
PF: Horford/Siakam
SF:Derozan/Caboclo
SG: Powell/McDaniels
PG: Lowry/D Wright

24 Aug 2017 16:58:43
Horford and the LA pick for Drummond and a body? I want whatever it is you're smoking.

24 Aug 2017 18:28:02
I don't this it's terrible Sox fan. Drummond is the exact kind of player that Boston needs and his age fits perfectly with Boston's time line. Horford is 31 and his stats have been slowly creeping down. I think maybe a Boston pick instead of the la pick and then the Raptors throw in a first to Detroit would make sense for everyone.

24 Aug 2017 19:54:51
Would much rather have Horford than Drummond. Horford was a stud in last year's playoffs.

23 Aug 2017 16:02:24
MIL-CLE-DET
Bucks get: Drummond, Love, SJohnson, JrSmith,R.Jefferson

Brogdon/Delly/Payton
Snell/JrSmith/Vaughn/Terry (min)
Anteto/S.Johnson/R.jefferson
Love/Teletovic/R.jefferson
Drummond/Maker

Cavs get:Middleton, Henson, Bucks 2018 first, Hawes(exp)
Waive Tavares, Trade Felder for 2nd

Thomas/Rose/Calderon
Middleton/Shumpert/C.Osman
James/Korver/J. Green
Crowder/Henson/Frye
Thompson/Zizic/Hawes

Pistons get:J. Parker, Monroe(exp), DJ Wilson
R. Jackson/I. Smith/Galloway
Bradley/Kennard/Galloway
T. Harris/DJ Wilson/Ellenson
J. Parker/Leuer/Tolliver
Monroe/Marjanovic/

23 Aug 2017 16:27:32
Pass from the Cavs. This trade doesn't really make them better in the short term and that pick will be a fairly late first.

Hard pass from Detroit. Parker isn't worth Drummond let alone Drummond and Johnson. Two knee injuries in 3 years is about as red a flag as there can be.

23 Aug 2017 03:48:10
Thunder: Tobias Harris
Pistons: Enes Kanter, Josh huestis, and a 2nd round pick or 2 if need be.

22 Aug 2017 07:28:14
DEN-MEM-DET

TO DEN : M.Conley

Conley-Nelson
Murray-Beasley
Hernangomez-Barton
Millsap-Arthur-Lyles
Jokic-Plumlee-Lydon

TO MEM : R.Jackson , K.Faried , E.Mudiay , W.Chandler , 1st round pick DEN

Jackson-Mudiay-Chalmers
Baldwin-Evans
Chandler-McLemore
Green-Faried
Gasol-Rabb

TO DET : G.Harris , C.Parsons , B.Wright , 2nd round pick MEM

Bradley-Smith
Harris-Galloway-Kennard
Parsons-Bullock
Harris-Leuer-Tolliver
Drummond-Marjanovic

22 Aug 2017 00:57:37
DET-SAC-CLE-MEM

traded :

DET- R.Jackson, A.Drummond, L.Kennard, 1st round pick
SAC- D.Fox, W.Cauley-Stein,
CLE- K.Irving, T.Thompson , C.Frye, J.Smith
MEM : M.Gasol, M.Conley

to DET : M.Conley, T.Thompson & C.Frye

to SAC : K.Irving

to CLE : R.Jackson , M.Gasol , L.Kennard , W.Cauley-Stein & DET 1st round pick

to MEM : A.Drummond , D.Fox & J.Smith

22 Aug 2017 23:42:35
good for sacramento, not bad for cleveland, nice for memphis and pretty awfull for detroit.

21 Aug 2017 19:01:30
CLE - ORL - DET - NYK

CLE get: Carmelo Anthony, Andre Drummond, Mario Heznonjia, and Elfrid Payton

pg. Rose/ Payton
sg. Korver/ Hezonjia
sf. James/ Jefferson
pf. Anthony/ Love
c. Drummond/ Thompson

ORL get: Kyire Irving, Joakim Noah, and JR Smith

pg. Irving/ Augstin
sg. Smith/ Simmons
sf. Ross/ Afflalo
pf. Gordon/ Speights
c. Biyombo/ Noah

DET get: Nikola Vucevic, Courtney Lee, Frank Ntilinkia and Kyle OQuinn

pg. Smith/ Ntlinkina
sg. Bradley/ Galloway
sf. Lee/ Kennard
pf. Harris/ Leuer
c. Vucevic/ Marjonovic/ Oquinn

NYK get: Evan Fournier, Stanley Johnson, Reggie Jackson, Iman Shumpert, and Channing Frye (exp)

pg. Jackson/ Sessions
sg. THJ/ Fournier
sf. Johnson/ Kuzminskas
pf. Porzingis/ Beasley
c. Hernangomez/ Frye

 
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