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21 Nov 2017 20:28:28
Bulls trades:
1)CHI-LAL:
Deng, Zubac and 2019 CHI return 2019 second round pick + for Mirotic (exp) Zipser
2)CHI-DET:
Leuer, Marjanovic and DET 2018 1st round pick for R. Lopez, Q. Pondexter (exp)

21 Nov 2017 21:05:06
That's not even close to enough to get rid of Deng and I don't see Detroit needing a back up center on Lopez' level if it costs a first.

22 Nov 2017 14:29:36
DET get's rid of 17 million bad contracts (Leuer s contract is 3 years long) and get a good back up who has expiring contract next year (so the 1st round pick (20-30) is worth it) .

19 Nov 2017 04:05:28
Pistons need a legit 3 to contend

Pistons - Nuggets

Pistons get: Wilson Chandler and Kenneth Faried

Nuggets get: John Leuer, Stanley Johnson and Det 2018 1st

Pistons - Hawks

Pistons get: Marco Belinelli

Hawks get: Boban & 2019 2nd

Pistons
Jackson/Smith/Galloway
Bradley/Kennard/Bullock
Chandler/Tolliver/Belinelli
Harris/Ellenson
Drummond/Faried/Moreland

Thought???

19 Nov 2017 04:24:16
Don't like deal one for the Nuggets. Though moving Manimal may be a good thing, him and Chandler are worth more than that package.

19 Nov 2017 16:26:48
Agree they probably should be getting a little more, but I don't think it's a awful return Triangle.

16 Nov 2017 12:55:37
Cavs-Pistons:

Pistons receive Brooklyn Pick and Shumpert

Cavs receive Pistons Pick and Bradley.

Cavs have IT, AB and Crowder of the Celtics team last year + LBJ and Love (big upgrade zo Johnson and Horford). They also have a good team if LBJ leaves with AB, Crowder, IT and Love (have enough cap space to resign them)

Pistons do it because they get the pick and have difficulties to resign AB

16 Nov 2017 15:02:01
I would like to see that Boston team. The problem is that Bradley is going to be a free agent to next year.

Maybe if the Nets pick is top 5 protected (swap with the Cleveland 2020 pick top 5 protected)

16 Nov 2017 15:02:05
Cavs pass. Bradley isn't worth that .

16 Nov 2017 15:39:48
*Cleveland team

This could work for Cleveland, if they take a top 5 protection on the Nets pick.
It's a lot of ifs, but
If the Nets pick falls in the top 5 and
If Detroit falls back and misses the playoffs.
The Cavs would have three draft picks in next years draft.

So they could resign Bradley, IT and LBJ next year and they can draft young talents so they will have a strong bench.

16 Nov 2017 17:15:47
Can't imagine the Pistons do it if the Pick is protected.

16 Nov 2017 21:31:23
@ps i think they still would. i don’t think bradley is going to stay in detroit come free agency, so its worth it if they get a pick around 6-12 for him.

17 Nov 2017 06:07:27
@donadamsky: won't work as the others proposed. Pistons take on Shumpert and give up their pick with AB going to the Cavs for only a 2021 pick from the Cavs?!
I could imagine a pick swap for the Pistons. They can swap with the Nets pick if it falls out of the top 5. If they can't swap they get a swap in 2020 and the 2021 pick of the cavs.

17 Nov 2017 13:31:59
I believe that the cavaliers can not trade away their 2020 first round draft pick as they traded away their 2019 first round pick in the kyle korver trade.

20 Nov 2017 19:30:53
i don't know why everybody thinks AB not going to resign with pistons they can offer him more money and the team is playin good ball.

09 Nov 2017 05:06:19
Det/Phi/Mil

Detroit receives Okafor, Jabari Parker, Amir Johnson

Phili receives Dellavedova, second from Detroit

Milwaukee receives Andre Drummond

09 Nov 2017 05:28:48
bucks got to give up more for their own sake, bringing in drummond’s enormous contract, they got to send henson out or they are basically choosing to pay luxury tax. and they could use more cap if they decide they wanna extend bledsoe beyond 2019.
its a decent move for detroit. parker’s future is about as up in the air as drummond’s and okafor is a nice prospect) i think detroit is wise enough to realize rebuilding is better than competing for an 8 seed (even though they let kcp walk. )
take it or leave if if i'm philly.

09 Nov 2017 08:44:23
It's a good trading idea.
Only should the Bucks trade more salary.

05 Nov 2017 03:34:54
Knicks:Eric Bledsoe

Suns:Willy hernangomez,mindagus kuzminskas and 2018 2nd rnd pick



Knicks:Tobias Harris

Pistons:Wilson chandler,kenneth faried and emanuel mudiay

Nuggets:Reggie jackson and Lance thomas


Knicks roster

Eric bledsoe-Jarret Jack-Frank Niklina
Courtney Lee-Tim Hardaway jr
Tobias Harris-Doug McDermott
Kristaps Porzingis-Michael Beasley
Enes Kanter-Kyle o quinn

05 Nov 2017 10:15:32
I like the first one.
Suns would want more, but i don't think tey will get a better offer.

i don't think the Nuggets want Jackson.

04 Nov 2017 16:38:53
This deal nearly happened but went dead per SI. Your opinion ?

Pels get Jackson

Suns get Ajinca, Asik 2018 Pels 1st rounder 2019 Pistons 1st

Pistons get Bledsoe

04 Nov 2017 16:59:47
I was thinking Josh Jackson at first and thought it was a steal for NOs, but now realizing that it's Reggie Jackson, I like it for the Suns and Detroit, but it feels terrible for the Pelicans. If they're going to be a playoff team they need 3 and d wings. Jackson is a decent 3 point shooter, but he's a terrible defender and if he isn't going to have the ball in his hands a ton, I'm not sure he really does much for the team. If they could get Avery Bradley in the deal instead, it would be great for them, but obviously that messes up the numbers in the trade. I suppose the Pelicans could keep Asik and Detroit could send Galloway or Marjanovic to the Suns.

04 Nov 2017 17:50:43
Saw that there are "some" in the NOLA organization that have had a warm spot for Reggie Jax. IMO, they shouldn't do a deal like this. but. neither should PHX to be saddled with Asik's and Ajinca's contracts. Plus, who knows? This deal (or a reworked one) might be in the offing.

04 Nov 2017 18:00:41
PHXfan for some strange reason there are some in NOLA camp that like Jackson. But i thought when they signed Rondo and now Nelson as backup that was the end of it. I also totally agree w rkenne_16 that Pels need wing 3 and D players to have a legit inside-outside threat. But i also heard it was Detroit that killed the deal.

05 Nov 2017 10:17:09
NO should better trade for Bledsoe themselves.

03 Nov 2017 09:47:12
Phoenix/ Detroit/ Denver

Phoenix gets Drummond and Mudiay

Detroit gets Bledsoe, T. Chandler, Faried and 2nd round pick from Phoenix

Denver gets Jackson and 2nd round pick from Detroit

Phoenix

Mudiay/ Ulis/ James
Booker/ Daniels/ Knight
Warren/ Jackson/ Jones Jr.
Chriss/ Bender/ Dudley
Drummond/ Len/ Williams

Detroit

Bledsoe/ Smith/ Galloway
Bradley/ Kennard/ Bullock
Johnson/ Leuer/ Tolliver
Harris/ Faried/ Ellenson
Chandler/ Marjanovic/ Moreland

Denver

Murray/ Jackson
Harris/ Barton/ Beasley
Chandler/ Hernangomez/ Jefferson
Millsap/ Lyles/ Lydon
Jokic/ Plumlee/ Arthur.

03 Nov 2017 10:00:22
Detroit gets screwed.

Why would they trade Drummond.

03 Nov 2017 13:01:15
PHX is the only one to accept this.

03 Nov 2017 13:44:41
No way Denver does this. Or Detroit for that matter.

02 Nov 2017 17:41:07
Stories coming out about Pistons interest in Bledsoe deal. but PHX does not want Reggie Jackson.
So. PHX gets Drummond from DET and Teletovic from MILW.
DET gets Bledsoe and Chandler from PHX. & Henson from MILW.
Bucks get R. Jackson from DET. toss some "sweeteners" in to make it all work .

02 Nov 2017 18:25:12
Unless that sweetener is something like a top 3 protected pheonix pick, one of the better young players for the Suns or at least both heat picks, I don think it would be worth it for Detroit. Part of the reason Detroit would want to do this is to get rid of Reggie Jackson.

02 Nov 2017 19:23:40
Bulls take Jackson can aborse his contract from Jimmy TPE.

02 Nov 2017 19:36:19
Still think Clippers are the best landing spot for Bledsoe he would make them a real contender maybe clippers could get involved with another team to make this happen.

02 Nov 2017 22:06:24
Clips would have to have another team involved. they have nothing PHX is interested in. kinda like the package of retreads Cleveland offers up.
Knicks won't do this, unfortunately for the Suns. but PHX supposedly asked NY for Ntilikina and Hernangomez for Bledsoe. So. thoughts in a deal for Bledsoe need to go along those lines, IMO.

03 Nov 2017 03:18:11
@rad even if the clips can get bleds without giving up any key pieces (beverly, jordan, gallo) they are still not contenders.

01 Nov 2017 12:01:33
PHX - DET - MIL

PHX get: Andre Drummond and Matthew Delladova

pg. Delladova
sg. Booker
sf. Jackson
pf. Chriss
c. Drummond

DET get: Greg Monroe (exp), Eric Bledsoe, and TJ Warren

pg. Bledsoe
sg. Bradley
sf. Warren
pf. Harris
c. Monroe

MIL get: Reggie Jackson and Tyson Chandler

pg. Jackson
sg. Brogdon
sf. Middleton/ Parker
pf. Antetoumpko
c. Chandler

01 Nov 2017 12:08:13
I doubt Milwaukee wants Jackson.

01 Nov 2017 12:42:07
agree with rkenne, Milwaukee wouln't want Jackon.

25 Oct 2017 16:46:34
ORL - DET - CLE

ORL get: Andre Drummond, Reggie Jackson, and Iman Shumpert

pg. Jackson/ Augustin
sg. Shumpert/ Ross
sf. Isaac/ Simmons
pf. Gordon/ Speights
c. Drummond/ Payne

DET get: Bismack Biyombo, Evan Fournier, Channing Frye (exp), Elfrid Payton (exp), and 2018 1st DP BKN (via CLE)

pg. Payton/ Smith
sg. Bradley/ Kennard
sf. Harris/ Fournier
pf. Frye/ Leaur
c. Biyombo/ Marjonovic

CLE get: Nikola Vucevic and Stanley Johnson

pg. Rose/ IT
sg. Smith/ Wade
sf. James/ Johnson
pf. Love/ Crowder
c. Vucevic/ Thompson

25 Oct 2017 17:27:59
this is the new all time low I've seen the cavs give away the nets pick for.
its low risk for orlando, drummond could still be a future all star, jackson too but to a lesser degree, if not they aren't giving up too much (but vucevic might be tough to part with) .
but its pretty bad for detroit, even if the nets pick is a future superstar. the pistons can rebuild without blowing it up like this.

25 Oct 2017 17:42:07
Terrible for the Cavs. This gives them a slight upgrade at the center position and gives them a younger wing that really isn't much of an upgrade over what they have. That's not anywhere near close enough to give up the Brooklyn pick for.

I disagree with Dona that this is bad for Detroit. Biyombo's doesn't have the upside or talent that Drummond does, but he has a similiar style of play and can fill in, they get out of the Reggie Jacksons contract and get Young talent plus the Brooklyn pick, which isn't far off from what Drummond is worth. They are currently capped out and have a team that might make the playoffs and that's only because of the weak East. This atleast let's some light in at the end of the tunnel. Right now they look directionless.

Not sure I like it for Orlando. That's a lot to give up for Drummond and they would have to take on reggie's contract.

25 Oct 2017 20:17:39
rkenne_16 A slight upgrade? The guy is averaging 24 and 10 so far this season. Vucevic is one of the more underrated and underappreciated players in the NBA IMO

But to me this trade is definitely bad for Orlando, I agree there . In fact i also agree that DET is not doing bad w this offer either.

23 Oct 2017 20:52:04
PHX - MEM - DET - MIL

PHX get: Mike Conley and Greg Monroe (exp)

pg. Conley
sg. Booker
sf. Jackson
pf. Bender
c. Monroe

MEM get: Jared Dudley, Matthew Delladova, Jabari Parker, Stanley Johnson, and Malcom Brogdon

pg. Brogdon
sg. Evans
sf. Johnson
pf. Parker
c. Gasol

DET get: Chandler Parsons, Eric Bledsoe, and Tyson Chandler

pg. Bledsoe
sg. Bradley
sf. Parsons
pf. Harris
c. Chandler

MIL get: Reggie Jackson and Andre Drummond

pg. Jackson
sg. Middleton
sf. Antetuoumpo
pf. Maker
c. Drummond

23 Oct 2017 09:05:15
PISTONS - SUNS

Pistons get: Bledsoe and Chandler

PG: Jackson - Bledsoe (6th man) .
SG: Bradley - Galloway - Kennard.
SF: Johnson - Bullock.
PF: Harris - Tolliver - Ellenson.
C: Drummond - Chandler - Moreland

Suns get: Leuer, Ish Smith and Marjanovic.

PG: Ish - Ullis - Knight (out) .
SG: Booker - Daniels - Reed.
SF: Jackson - Warren - Dudley - Jones jr.
PF: Chriss - Leuer - Williams - Bender.
C: Len - Marjanovic.

23 Oct 2017 14:31:39
I think it should be Jackson instead of Ish, and Suns would have no use from Leuer as they already have Chriss and Bender as PF's of their future.

And in what world Jackson starts over Bledsoe?

21 Oct 2017 21:03:26
Okay... everyone here me out. I tried to make this the most realistic as I could so no hate pls.

Celtics get: Andre Drummond, Anthony Davis, Jordan Crawford.

Pistons get: Al Horford, Shane Larkin, 2019 Celtics 2nd.

Pelicans get: 2019 Grizzlies 1st, 2018 Celtics 1st, Jaylen Brown, Aron Baynes, Guerschon Yabusele, Abdel Nader, Jabari Bird, Reggie Bullock.

Irving/Rozier/Allen
Smart/Crawford/Ellis(FA)
Hayward/Tatum/Green(FA)
Davis/Morris/Ojeleye
Drummond/Theis/Hibbert(FA)

21 Oct 2017 21:24:24
I think that Celtics pick should go to Pistons and Pelicans should get Lakers/ 76ers/ Kings pick.

21 Oct 2017 21:59:04
The offer to NOs isn't bad, but I highly doubt that AD gets traded this year.

I don't see the point of the 2nd for Detroit. Horford is 31 and on a huge contract. I don't think he's worth much more than an expiring and a midlevel pick or player.

21 Oct 2017 22:21:28
Hear, not here

The trade offer sucks. In fact its one of the worst i've seen in awhile

Mediocre Players, NO MATTER HOW MANY YOU send along with picks that may or may not develop do NOT, repeat do NOT get you a once in a generation Superstar

Truly amazing how many Celtic and Cav favored trade proposals always start out with "hear me out" or they write mountains to justify their lame trade offers

AD is not going to the C's. In fact he was relieved to hear the Celtic trade rumors were just rumors. So while it must suck that C's went all in on Hayward and he is out for season, You will not be getting AD.

22 Oct 2017 11:38:28
no idea why the Pistons would trade a young player for an aging star.


NO would only do this if AD loses a legg.

23 Oct 2017 01:04:21
I'm not even a celtics fan lol--im a bucks fan.

23 Oct 2017 04:51:00
No Brooklyn pick and Tatum instead of Brown, Pels don't entertain this.

23 Oct 2017 20:14:02
Ok, so you're a Bucks fan. Would you take that package for Giannis?

23 Oct 2017 22:13:31
Ok So you're a Bucks fan. Would you take that package for Giannis?

17 Oct 2017 14:03:41
Drummond for Shumpert, Thompson and 2018 BRK pick

Cavs resign Derrick Williams

Cavs 5
Thomas
Wade
James
Love
Drummond

6th man Crowder

Bench
Rose/Calderon
Smith/Holland
Osman/Korver
Green/Williams
Frye/Zizic

Pistons 5
Jackson
Bradley
Johnson
Harris
Thompson

6th man Shumpert

Bench
Smith/Galloway
Kennard/Buycks
Bullock/Montero
Leuer/Tolliver/Moreland
Marjanovic/Ellenson

Cavs become non-destructable.

Pistons have +33 wins according to Hollinger's. They may not be winning player-wise but the Brooklyn pick is going to turn up something high.

17 Oct 2017 15:06:01
I don't think Drummond is a big enough upgrade over Thompson to justify giving up a potential top 5 pick in a loaded draft. Maybe if Detroit was really motivated to move Drummond and they would take that package with this years Cavs first the 2021 first something like top 10 protected and either Zizic or Osman, I could see it.

17 Oct 2017 18:04:10
I wouldn't trade the Nets pick for Drummond.

16 Oct 2017 06:06:57
Mavs should add an stronger SG that can attack the rim and run plays as well by defending good.

Cavs:
-McRoberts

Mavs:
-Shumpert

For now Mavs would improve the backcourt.

Maybe Shumpert plays a great year or he is willing to step out for the next year. If not, Shumpert and Wes are similar Players, Wes may a bit more committed overall but next year he is older as has only 1y 17m left. So if Shumpert works or stays Mavs could trade Wes to a contender / good team that Need some SG/SF to free cap space. (Pelicans, Raptors, Pistons or LAC or OKC)

16 Oct 2017 09:00:35
That would be a good move for both teams.

16 Oct 2017 13:35:06
Shumpert has no value.

16 Oct 2017 14:15:21
Not a fan of it for the Cavs. Atleast until IT is back Shumpert looks to be in the rotation and after trading Jefferson, the Cavs would end up being pretty thin on the wing if someone missed time. Plus, the Cavs have 4 more traditional bigs on the roster and it looks like their plans is to only play them at the 5. I don't think Mcroberts would in the Cavs rotation and the chances he is even reasonably healthy this year are pretty slim.

16 Oct 2017 14:54:02
Supercollider, neither does Mcroberts. What's your point?

17 Oct 2017 04:43:09
Well rkenne, now that Melo's been dealt Super has to find someone new to pile on!

100% agreed rkenne.

14 Oct 2017 23:02:31
PISTONS - MAGIC

Pistons trade Reggie Jackson and Jon Leuer.

Magic trade DJ Augustine, Mario Hezonja and Bismack Biyombo.

15 Oct 2017 03:55:18
So the Pistons have Biyombo and Drummond.

10 Oct 2017 00:06:34
Phoenix: Porzingis+ R Jackson

NY: Bender+ 1rnd pick Phoe+ 1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick Detroit+ 1rnd pick Phoe 2020

Detroit: Bledsoe

or
Phoe: Porzingis+ Monroe

NY: Bender+ 1rnd pick Phoe, mia, detroit+ 1rnd pick Phoe 2020

Bucks: Bledsoe


Phoenix:
C: Porzingis
PF: Chriss
SF: J Jackson
SG: Booker
PG: Knight/ Ulis

10 Oct 2017 10:16:08
operation: get porzingis to phoenix. the knicks would really be betting on their f. o. to draft well. and holy hell, bucks are getting bledsoe for a steal in the second trade (unless u meant the det pick to be from mil), either way, still worth bleds.

10 Oct 2017 12:38:02
Yeah, even if that Detroit pick is suppose to be a Bucks pick, that seems pretty light for Bledsoe.

I don't think the Knicks should move KP, but it's not a terrible offer.

11 Oct 2017 10:20:34
No way, porzingis has potential, but he's not worth this for phoenix. I'd give Bledsoe, bender, and miami 1st, but that's it. The guy averaged 18 and 7, but didn't improve much from his rookie year. This draft is so deep that you can potentially get a player of his talent through mid first round. So to give up a top 3 most likely, along with mid first, and bender and another first plus bledsoe forget it.

11 Oct 2017 23:17:38
comme on Porzingis is a star and he will shine this year.

That phoenix team would be unbeatable in a few years.

12 Oct 2017 02:12:35
Gasupo I'll take Bagley or one of the top 5 players any day over porzingas if it involves giving up all that.

04 Oct 2017 22:40:51
PISTONS - CAVS

Pistons get Frye (7,4$ / 1 year) and Jefferson (2,5$ / 2 years) .

Pistons need to make cap space to resign Avery Bradley next year, and Frye is expiring.

Cavs get Leuer (10$ / 3years) .

Cavs need to cut one player to make a roster spot for Wade, so they trade two players to get one.

Salaries match.

05 Oct 2017 14:24:24
Leuer would play for the Cavs. Can't say that Frye or Jefferson would get minutes for the Pistons.

05 Oct 2017 21:18:47
Cavs are fools if they take on Leuer's deal.

02 Oct 2017 01:42:09
SAC/DET midseason deal

SAC get Reggie Jackson & swap rights with DET (2018 1st round pick)

DET get George Hill

02 Oct 2017 09:18:24
I think Sacramento would need more than swap rights to do this. The Pistons will clearly have the better record.

29 Sep 2017 02:42:02
MEM/DET/CLE

MEM get Reggie Jackson, Iman Shumpert, Andre Drummond , DET 1st round pick 2018 (top 4 protected) & BKN 1st round pick from CLE

DET get Tristan Thompson , Channing Frye , Mike Conley & MEM 2nd round pick

CLE get Marc Gasol & Tobias Harris

 
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