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11 Oct 2018 12:10:29

Butler and Dieng for Drummond, Stanley Johnson and Kennard.

11 Oct 2018 12:41:14
It feels like to much at this point. Minnesota’s position got significantly worse yesterday.

16 Oct 2018 23:33:46
I rly doubt Detroit would do this without commitment from butler which i doubt would happen.

07 Oct 2018 23:24:46
rumour has it ongoing mia-min talks include dragic, so if it happens

detroit gets teague
min gets r. jackson + 2nd.

08 Oct 2018 04:57:12
If dragic is included then maybe Teague is too.

04 Oct 2018 18:32:17

DAL gets R-Jackson, Galloway, 2nd rd pick from DET 2019

DET gets Barnes, Turner, Bogdanovic, Thad Young

IND gets Drummond

Smith Jr/ Barea
Jackson/ Galloway
Doncic/ DFJ/ Matthews
Powell/ Dirk

Ish Smith
Johnson/ Kennard
Barnes/ Bogdanovic
Turner/ Young


04 Oct 2018 21:57:32
Why dies Dallas wan5 reggie and his contract?

29 Sep 2018 18:51:22

TOR get Lilard, Drummond and Aminu

DET get Jval, TOR 1st rd pick 2019, and Harkless

POR gets Lowry, Ibaka and OG and 2nd rd pick via DET

Lilard/ Fred Van/ Wright
Green/ Powell
Kwahi/ Miles
Siakam/ Aminu
Drummond/ Monroe

Harkless/ Galloway
Johnson/ Kennard/ Bullock
Griffin/ Ellenson
JVal/ Leuer

feel like drummond doesn't see himself winning anything in DET and DET knowing he's right, i think they will try to trade him for some picks. don't think its drummonds fault, its just Pistons have a bad front office.

Lowry/ Trent Jr
CJ MCcollum/ Curry
OG/ Turner
Ibaka/ Collins
Nurkic/ Leonard.

29 Sep 2018 19:57:30
San Antonio owns TOR 1st 2019.

29 Sep 2018 22:51:21
How would the blazers not be getting a 1st round lottery projected also?

30 Sep 2018 01:52:32
Why would the pistons do this, trade away drummond for a mediocre center and overpaid role player and a late first round pick that can't even be traded?

30 Sep 2018 22:37:16
This trade makes no sense for Portland.

27 Sep 2018 18:41:05
3 way deal

Twolves give: Jimmy Butler and Dieng
Twolves receive: Blake Griffin and Caris Levert

Nets give: Caris Levert, Allan Crabbe, and 2020 and 2021 top 5 protected first round picks

Pistons give: Blake Griffin.

27 Sep 2018 19:06:32
And Pistons receive: Crabbe, Dieng, and 2020&2021 first round picks.

I think it’s a pretty fair deal for the Nets. Maybe could’ve done with just one first rounder.

Detroit’s going nowhere, gets them out of the burden of Griffins contract.

Griffin would fit great with the Wolves, on the court and personality-wise. We all know Thibs isn’t scared of a little bit of age.

27 Sep 2018 19:11:51
and where is jimmy landing in this one?

27 Sep 2018 19:37:30
OH. Brooklyn, lol.

28 Sep 2018 13:50:39
Do not drink and chat .

24 Sep 2018 07:33:47
*Kings get: Langston Galloway, Stanley Johnson
PG Fox/Ferrell/Mason lll/Galloway
SG Hield/Bogdanovic/Shumpert
SF Johnson/Bjelica/Jackson
PF Bagley lll/Giles/Randolph
Ce Cauley-Stein/Labissiere

*Pistons get: Kosta Koufos, Ben McLemore, 2021 2nd
PG Jackson/Smith/Calderon
SG Kennard/McLemore/Thomas
SF Bullock/Robinson lll/Brown
PF Griffin/Ellenson/Leuer
Ce Drummond/Pachulia/Koufos

24 Sep 2018 10:39:00
Why would the pistons do that.

05 Oct 2018 04:08:56
Usa- why did pistons overpay Jackson. Trade for Blake who never plays 65 games?

23 Sep 2018 15:57:57
Honest opinion question. What do you guys think the pistons would have to give up for a Jimmy Butler deal?

My Thought is

Jimmy Butler for Reggie Jackson, Stanley Johnson, and a First Round Pick not sure the year.

23 Sep 2018 16:07:50
If the pistons traded the assets or took on Dieng to get butler it would likely be a rental if his large market wish list is accurate.

23 Sep 2018 18:19:29
Dave Bing in his prime might get it done.

19 Sep 2018 18:46:41
*Pistons get: SG/SF Nicolas Batum, SF/SG Dwayne Bacon
*Hornets get: SF/SG Stanley Johnson, PF/C Jon Leuer, SG/PG Langston Galloway

- Pistons do this to upgrade at the 2 or 3, wherever they want to outbid Batum. Get rid of two bad contracts. Replace Johnson with bacon, who is arguably better since Johnson hasn't proved much.
- Hornets do this to get rid of batum's awful contract. Clear tons of cap for 2020 with batum off the books. Also get Johnson, who could prove that he was worthy of being a lottery pick.

18 Sep 2018 17:23:14
4 nba trades, Give thoughts

1. Hawks get Vucevic and Augustin
- Gives Trae Young help on offense
Magic get Lin and Dedmon
- Gives Magic a starting PG and 2 exp deals

2. Pistons get Gordon
- Get much needed perimeter shooting/scoring
Rockets get Johnson and Leuer
- Get a lockdown perimeter defender and stretch 4

3. Bucks get Whiteside
- Gets a rim protector/great rebounder
Heat get Delly and Henson
- Gets true backup PG and backup C

4. Clips get McCollum
- Gets a go to scorer and better chance at getting Kawhi (trade Gallo)
Blazers get Bradley and Harris
- gets defensive backcourt partner for Lillard and much need forward scoring

18 Sep 2018 19:33:53
@ NBA16, No team wants Whiteside. He's an overpaid head case on and off the court! I think the Bucks would rather stay with Over paid players in Henson and Dellavedova. Not quite as much of a distraction on and off the court.

19 Sep 2018 00:19:09
I would love to take Whiteside if he came with one of Heat’s SFs (Richardson or Winslow) . The fact that Whiteside is thought to be a headacase only serves to lessen his perceived value. Everyone agrees Whiteside had a down year last year right. He still averaged 14 pts. 11 rebs. And 2.5 Blks. He suffered through several injuries as well. He arguably had a better year than Kevin Love in a down year. Give me this guy any day.

19 Sep 2018 12:53:03
Magic hung up lol.

18 Sep 2018 04:11:06
*Raps get: PF/C Blake Griffin, SG/SF Bruce Brown
*Pistons get: PF/C Serge Ibaka, SF/SG C.J. Miles, SG/PG Malachi Richardson, 2021 2nd

- Raptors do this to get a former All-star Forward who can help distribute the ball and rebound better. Better replacement for Ibaka and is on a long term contract. Also get a young guard who has potential since he was projected first round this year. Do this to improve their chances of a ring this year in a conference that is LeBron-less and can compete better with Boston and Philly. Big 3 of Lowry, Kawhi, and Blake could help them get further in the playoffs if all produce well. But having Blake on a massive contract for long term is risky, but their chances are better if you swap Blake and Ibaka.
-Pistons do this to get Blake off the books. They could clear lots of cap in 2020 with Jackson, Ibaka, Leuer, and galloway coming off the books. Reduces the risky in having bad money in Blake for the next 4 years. Also get Miles, who can help improve their lack of three point shooting since Kennard hasn't proven much. Miles could come off the bench to provide scoring, or start at the 2 or 3 with either Johnson, bullock, Kennard, or Robinson. Pistons do this to prevent a possible bad money situation and Ibaka is not a terrible downgrade from Blake, can spread out to the 3 point line, and possibly better defender for 11 mil less. Richardson is really to match the money and the 2nd is to sweeten the deal. Doubt the Raps would throw in a first since they already traded their own this year.

19 Sep 2018 02:32:00
WHy would the pistons do this, they go from griffin who is arguably their best player to serge who is a considerable downgrade who also has an awful contract. with no real assets in return.

14 Sep 2018 03:41:47
Magic get: SG/PG Langston Galloway, SF/SG Stanley Johnson
Pistons get: SG/SF Terrence Ross, SF/PF Jarred Vanderbilt, 2020 2nd Round Pick

14 Sep 2018 14:59:19
Vanderbilt was drafted by the Magic, but was traded immediately to Denver. Don't think the Magic can trade him again.

07 Sep 2018 03:49:48
Boston - Pistons
Trade deadline

Boston get:

Get a upgrade at centre who is young
releases more minutes for Williams to grow
two point guards to fill minutes of Rozier

Pistons get:
Bos 2019 1st

Get a veteran centre if pistons aren't working
point guard for the future
young player and draft pick

07 Sep 2018 04:43:40
Boston say no.

07 Sep 2018 07:12:37
I don't think Boston wants to get rid of Horford, I'll bet he signs an extension for half of what he makes. He wants to stay.

07 Sep 2018 08:33:00
Danny does the Robbing not Detroit NO THANKS.

07 Sep 2018 15:59:20
I'd take Horford over Drummond. Plus giving up Rozier and a first? No way. Boston is in win now mode, and this makes them worse.

04 Sep 2018 20:28:41

DET: Blake Griffin
OKC: Dennis, Abrines, Patterson.

04 Sep 2018 21:33:33
I’m not a fan of Griffin or his contract, but there is just no value in that offer for him. Even if Detroit wants himnoff the books, I can’t see them doing a trade for nothing without atleast bringing the team back healthy and trying to make it work.

05 Sep 2018 17:38:46

04 Sep 2018 05:02:23
If its clear the Detroit front court isn't working:

Magic send: Mozgov, '19 top 8 protected - then top 12 - then converts to 3 2nds)
Receive: Jackson

Kings send: McLemore
Receive: Mozgov, '21 1st (Cavs)

Cavs send: Hill, Korver, Nance, '21 1st
Receive: Griffin

Detroit send: Griffin, Jackson
Receive: Hill, Korver, McLemore, Nance, '19 1st (Magic)

04 Sep 2018 05:11:08
Magic say no.

05 Sep 2018 05:27:25
Lol they all say no obviously . Thought this Cleveland packages of junk for solid players was guna stop now .

No offence but

None have very much value adding in the close to 30 mill for the 3 of hill Korver and nance brings that value a lot lower .

Those players like hill and Korver u need to look towards contenders wanting veteran help, shooting in Korver a case. Not the Pistons after u remove their starting pg and pf.

03 Sep 2018 03:47:04

Boston: Towns, Jackson

Pg Rozier/Jackson
Sg Hayward/Smart
Sf Tatum/Morris
Pf Horford/Yabusele/Ojeleye
Ce Towns/Baynes/Theiss

Wolves: Drummond, Irving, 1st Pistons

Pg Irving/Jones
Sg Butler/Rose
Sf Wiggins/Okogie
Pf Gibson/Tolliver
Ce Drummond/Patton

Pistons: Brown, Teague, Dieng

Pg Teague/Smith
Sg Kennard/Galloway
Sf Brown/Johnson/Bullock
Pf Griffin/Ellenson
Ce Dieng/Pachulia

03 Sep 2018 08:12:31
Nice trade if value towns like A. Davis.

03 Sep 2018 08:42:05
Pistons say NO

03 Sep 2018 13:04:28
Celtics say no. This derails any hopes of a championship.
Irving and Brown are far too much of the Celtics team to throw their chances out of the window.

01 Sep 2018 17:08:57
Heat - Pistons

Miami gets Reggie Jackson, Ish and Galloway and a 2nd round.

Detroit gets Dragic and Tyler Johnson.

31 Aug 2018 15:46:08
4 team trade Sun's, Pistons, Thunder, T-Wolves let me know what y'all think to me this is fair, but I’m a Thunder fan so I'm sure I'm being bias here. which teams say yes and who says no

Suns get Schroder, OKC 2nd round if needed
Lose Warren

They get a starting PG which they need. And a 2nd round pick if they won't do just a player swap. They are both 24 the both average bout the same in points Warrenton 19.6 Schroeder 19.4 Schroder averaged 4.9 more assists which they need a playmaker. Warren averaged 2 more rebounds. The Suns would be losing a lil defense while gaining better playmaking which they need to me it's an even swap. But they get a 2nd if needed.

Pistons get Taj Gibson (exp), Warren, Ferguson OKC 2nd round pick
Lose Griffin

They get 2 young assets one already proven in Warren and a young prospect in Ferguson with good potential. They get cheaper and back under the luxury tax this season and open up about 17mil next year for FA they could then get Leuer and Galloway off the books for next season and be able to offer a 30-34 mil contract. Plus a 2nd round pick.

Thunder get Butler
Lose Schroder, Ferguson, Abrines, 1st round pick, and 1 or 2 2nd round picks

Thunder get another all star and a better attempt at a big 3 or 4 if you count Adams (I do) . If what Butler says is true and he just wants to win OKC is a good place to try with Westbrook and George. OKC would be able to resign him if he will because they would have bird rights so they can go over luxury tax to keep him. They would prob be the most expensive team though.

T-Wolves get Griffin, Abrines, OKC next available 1st round pick
Lose Butler, Gibson

They get an All-star, a young 3 point shooter with an expiring contract, and a 1st instead of letting Butler walk and getting nothing to me that's a good deal. They are losing Gibson who is getting older and his contract is expiring, but thunder throw in the 1st since they are losing Gibson. if they were losing just Butler they wouldn't be getting the first.

OKC sign Brewer and Acy to minimum contracts
OKC lineup
Westbrook/ Felton/
Butler/ Roberson/ Brewer/ Diallo
George/ TLC/ Nader
Grant/ Patterson/ Acy
Adams/ Noel
Thunder would compete with Warriors if they met in playoffs it would not be an easy series for Warriors. If they improved the bench a lil as the season goes and everyone is healthy they could beat them.

31 Aug 2018 16:12:52
Schroder and Abrines have almost not value, Ferguson has minimal value at best, and that first is like 6 years out. You’re just spreading a hugely one sided trade by only slightly bad trades for 3 teams rather than 1 extremely bad trade for 1 team.

31 Aug 2018 22:55:17
So many moving parts to this deal, I'm only going to address the 2 main parts (teams) as to why I don't think this would/ could happen.

For the T-wolves, they are not getting enough for these 2 players. Griffin has had difficulty finishing a season uninjured and he has a Max contract deal. Abrines isn't bad, but he's a long way from proving himself an above average player yet. Finally, the next 1st rounder available for OKC to give is in 2024, that doesn't entice teams that are trying to get something of value so they can win now or in the near future.

As for OKC, that would be a win this year or bust lineup. After this year, Butler would require a Max contract (3 players on one team with Max contracts), Noel will move on or at the very least, require a realistic salary, if so then we have to find a replacement at the league minimum, not to mention Felton is not the person you want driving that 2nd unit against the elite teams in the playoffs, so we would have to find an experienced guard to sign at the league minimum for that position as well.
All that while acquiring the highest team salary and luxury tax in the history of the NBA, not just this year, but for at least the next 4 years.
Ownership would actually eventually lose money and have to find a way to dismantle the team, then start over from scratch.

31 Aug 2018 08:25:14
OKC: B Griffin

Detroit: A Robertson+ J Grant+Abrines+Patterson+ 1rnd pick OKC

31 Aug 2018 09:22:16
OKC's bench is too shallow already. This will hurt them more. Although it would be nice to get a 3rd star, it will be hard for them to say yes especially for Blake who is injury prone.

31 Aug 2018 12:52:30
OKC does have a really shallow bench, but I think I would pull the trigger on this if I'm them. They need another player if they're going to come close to contending, and that starting 5 will be really competitive no matter who they put at the 2. I wouldn't play Schroder there, but there are a lot of veteran free agents out there who can help fill that spot.
As far as the bench, you start with Schroder, and that's about it. I'm still a believer in Noel, so I think you can add him in. After that, you'd have to bring in guys who want to win on a low contract. They have to do this anyway, with or without this trade. I don't see them being a big destination as is, but if you add another big time player it's much more appealing.

31 Aug 2018 14:11:29
OKC shouldn't and can't do this right now it would have to wait. Grant just resigned so they can't trade him right now. And they should wait before giving all that for Griffin. Grant could be the answer at PF if he can shoot 37-38% from 3 again like in 2016-17 and do the other things he did he could be a good starter on a team friendly contract. They give up their starting and backup SG and PF plus a 1st just to get a starting PF. They make thselves to weak even after signing veterans to minimum contracts.

31 Aug 2018 23:12:04
Blake Griffin is so not worth mortgaging the entire team farm for.
I like the guy, but he's not worth his Max salary if he can't stay healthy for the entire season for his entire contract.

Detroit is the team he needs to be on if he is going to get paid that much. They need a marquee name on their team to draw in some fan interest, but they aren't going to depend too much on him consistently because they aren't realistically going to compete for a championship any time in the near future.

24 Aug 2018 15:06:12
Portland: B Griffin+ Kennard+ Swap option 2019 pick

Detroit: McCollum+ E Turner

24 Aug 2018 15:47:02
I can't see Portland wanting to trade for Griffin unless it's to pair with Lillard and McCollum. Blake and Lillard isn't good enough to make any separation with the rest of the pack in the west. Lillard, McCollum, Griffin, and Nurkic is good enough to most likely get a top 4 seed.

24 Aug 2018 21:23:53
Griffin isn't changing much with McCollum out of the picture for the blazers. This just hurts blazers long term. If griffin made 30 instead of 37 in his final year it would be more palatable. He's overpaid like love is.

25 Aug 2018 16:19:51
Portland saves 7M in this trade.

Griffin had a bad year in Detroit, playing without a pointguard. But he can still be a top 15 player. And Kennard has still potentiall. So Portland has nothing to lose and could do this trade. Same for Detroit, they're going nowhere, so wh why nt try this.

22 Aug 2018 20:43:08
Portland:B. Griffin

Detroit. :E. Turner, M. Leonard portland 1 round picks 2019 and 2020.

22 Aug 2018 21:06:42
Teams aren't allowed to trade back to back 1st round picks.

22 Aug 2018 21:09:12
Blazers are better with this deal. If griffin holds up the picks are late. Not a good return for Detroit I doubt they'd consider it.

22 Aug 2018 21:20:09
Btec, I think the general though was that Detroit overplayed for Griffin. I don’t think they could do much better than that if they tried to flip him.

22 Aug 2018 22:37:42
Detroit gets 2 heavily overpaid players and picks that will be late first, i doubt they accept.

23 Aug 2018 15:15:07
I realize that Blake's value has plummeted the last couple years, but I can't see Detroit taking this deal. Portland would have to attach a first to both Leonard and Turner to unload them, so basically Portland gets Blake for nothing.

I could see this happening next offseason if Detroit misses the playoffs and Zach Collins doesn't improve. At that point, those two would be expiring deals. Probably only one first instead of two then, but the structure could make sense.

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