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15 Feb 2018 05:12:05
Doc rivers takes over

Clippers get Mudiay Ntilikina Baker
Knicks get Beverly Rivers Evans

Splash trade by Doc
Detroit get Hardaway Noah Burke
Magic get Kanter R.Jackson 5th
Knicks get Anderson Biyombo Ross Galloway 1st 37th
Rockets get Leuer

Beverly/Rivers/Evans
Lee/Galloway/Dotson
Ross/Thomas/Bonga-36th
Porzingis/Anderson/Wagner-37th
Ayton/Biyombo/Bitadze-45th

15 Feb 2018 17:24:14
Doc has shown time and time again that he is not a great GM let alone a good GM. I don't think there will ever be a time that he has GM powers again.

14 Feb 2018 12:54:14
Knicks press reset botton.Hire Jay Wright to coach.2 trades

Pistons get Hardaway Thomas Burke 20th
Suns get R.Jackson Kanter Telly
Bucks get Leuer Knight
Knicks get Chandler Teletovic Dudley 13th

Later trade
Pelicans get Mudiay Dudley-exp Teletovic-exp Chandler-exp Ntilikina
Knicks get Holiday Moore Solomon

Draft Michigan State players

Holiday/Roach-36thBrunson-45th
Lee/Moore/Baker
Bridges/Dotson
Jackson/Solomon/Hicks
Porzingis/O'Quinn/Noah

14 Feb 2018 16:58:30
Knicks rebuild will have to go on without Pels making that trade. No way they accept.

14 Feb 2018 17:45:20
Taking on Solomon and Moore contract who are bench players at best for expiring contracts and 2 guards under 22yrs old. Holiday with Cousin and Davis was barely .500 team. dacman813 You are overvaluing Holiday.

14 Feb 2018 18:28:14
Dacman, that 2nd trade would be a steal for the Pelicans. They would end up with cap space to build around Davis (and possibly Cousins) plus a fairly promising young pg.

14 Feb 2018 19:38:41
Plan B is even better
Hawks get Ntilikina Mudiay Dudley Teletovic Baker
Knicks get Schroder Bazmore Plumlee

Hawks dump future salary with 2 with PG players 22 yrs
stretch Noah buyout
Knicks sign Smart 4 70 mil

Schroder/ Roach-36th/ Brunson-46th
Smart/ Lee/ Milton
Bazemore/ Mykal-13th/
Porzingis/ Jackson-6th/ Hicks
Plumlee/ Chandler/ Bitadze-42nd

Knicks turn toward defense with better contracts. After drafting poorly last summer.

15 Feb 2018 00:55:34
I doubt the Bucks would want Leuer and Knight back, Since they had already traded them both away before! Did you mean "Dellevedova" (Delly) instead of "Telly? " Otherwise you have traded him "Telly" twice to 2 different teams?

15 Feb 2018 15:26:30
Not overvaluing anybody. It is a horrible idea for the Pels to take on a bunch of expiring contracts and let the window shut down on AD's contract. They basically have 3 yeqrs to put a strong contender together. Moore is playing decent and Holiday is playing well. I am not big on Mudlay either for that matter, or any of the expiring.

11 Feb 2018 04:00:35
Offseason
Detroit get Hardaway Noah Sun's 2nd
Suns get R.Jackson Baker
Knicks get Chandler Leuer Reed
Suns Knicks Swap 3rd and 6th pick

With father and son together Does Hardaway become Detriot 3rd Star

Ish/Galloway/Buyck
Hardaway/Kennard/Brown-46th
Johnson/Bullock/kurucs-35th
Griffin/Tolliver/Ellenson
Drummond/Noah/Moreland

Add two shot blockers to develop with a team who can play fast like joejohnson Amare Nash Marion Q-Rich

R.Jackson/Payton/Ulis
Booker/Daniels/Baker
Jackson/Dudley/House
Warren/Bender/R.Williams-18th
Chris/A.Williams/Mamba-6th

Leuer for Anderson

Ntilikina/Mudiay/Burks
Lee/Dotson/Reed
Porter-3rd/Beasley/Thomas
Porzingis/Anderson/Wagner-35th
Kanter/Chandler/Bitadze-45th

11 Feb 2018 16:06:28
Don't see the sun's swapping 1 Rd pick.

10 Feb 2018 01:06:28
4 team piston, laker, OKC, Orlando

Detroit gets Thomas, L.Deng, Randal, Speights

Lakers get Biyombo, Hezonja

Thunder get Abrines, Jackson, Luer, 1st okc

Thunder get Galloway, Afflalo

10 Feb 2018 14:38:41
That looks more like a three team rebuild.

10 Feb 2018 00:49:53
offseason trade

heat : wall, oubre, jackson
pistons : olynyk,gortat, meeks
wizards : dragic, drummond, winslow, wizards 1st round pick

10 Feb 2018 02:57:32
wizards 1st round pick to pistons*.

10 Feb 2018 07:23:44
Niko your killing the pistons.

10 Feb 2018 11:15:49
You can do this trade without the Heat.

Was: Drummond+ 1rnd pick Detroit+ Jackson

Det: Mahinmi+ J Wall.

11 Feb 2018 07:15:12
wall can't be traded until october i believe bc he signed the supermax.

08 Feb 2018 11:12:37
EAST COAST SHUFFLE


Hornets trade Walker, Batum
Hornets get Jackson, Thompson, S.Johnson, Shumpert, 1st round pick 2018 Nets

Pistons trade Jackson, S.Johnson, Ellenson
Pistons get Thomas(use trade exception), Batum

Cavs trade Thomas, Thompson, Shumpert, 1st round pick via Nets 2018
Cavs get Walker, Zeller, Ellenson

Hornets:
Jackson/MCW
Lamb/Monk/Shumpert
S.Johnson/MKG/Bacon
Williams/Kaminsky/Thompson
Howard/Hernangomez/Thompson
- sure Hornets lost some talent with this, but with Nets' and own pick Hornets could have a good draft (good draft class) in order to finally overcome mediocrity
- build around Monk(20), Johnson(21), Kaminsky(24), Lamb(25), Hernangomez(23), MKG(24), Thompson(26) and picks!
- tank for a PG (to build behind Jackson) and best talent available

Pistons:
IT/Smith
Kennard/Galloway
Batum/Bullock
Griffin/Tolliver/Leuer/B.Johnson
Drummond/Reed/Moreland
- all in move with a new IT in Mo-Town and i think Detroit will have arguments to ensure IT's longterm stay (talent, contender status... + uncertainties about IT's future at all around the league)
- also get a playmaking wing, who can make plays, shoot the 3's and defend with Batum
- trade for a wing like W.Chandler, Evans...

Cavs:
Walker/Calderon/Rose
JR/Wade/Korver
LeBron/Crowder/Osman
Love/Green/Ellenson
Zeller/Frye/Zizic
- Cavs need a change in locker-room and some fresh blood, Kemba will all bring that immediately, Zeller will bring more dynamic and hustle play in the paint. Ellenson is a very talented big (#18 pick in 2016) who will learn from Love and Zeller
- yes Cavs lose the Nets pick but Kemba is clearly an upgrade over IT (age, contract situation, fit)

08 Feb 2018 16:06:26
Kemba Walker is not being traded.

08 Feb 2018 04:07:43
Detroit gets Hill, F.Mason, N.Young, C.Butler

GSW get Galloway, protected 2nd sac, 2nd det from Bradley trade.

Sac get Jackson, Leuer, elenson, 1st GSW, future 1st Det

07 Feb 2018 10:51:04
Phoe: R Jackson

Detroit: D Lillard+ Turner+ Nurkic

Porland: B Knight+ Kennard+ Drummond+ 1rnd pick Miami

07 Feb 2018 12:57:56
Big no from Portland.

07 Feb 2018 16:11:01
Reggie Jackson has no value, a swap of him and night would be fair, but no way Phoenix gives up a first rounder.

07 Feb 2018 18:17:45
This trade is obviously ridiculous, but if you are going to try and tell me reggie Jackson has no value compared to Brandon knight I wouldn't be surprised if you were hooked on crack. he's averaging 14 ppg, 5 apg, and shooting 44 % from the field. Brandon night is not even playing for the suns. don't reply to people when you don't know what you are talking about.

07 Feb 2018 04:43:53
Detroit get Hill, Mason lll

Sacramento get Jackson, Ellenson, 1st

07 Feb 2018 04:42:07
Detroit Pistons- 2020 First Round Pick

Memphis Grizzlies- Tyreke Evans


I know this is a weird trade idea but Pistons were just awarded 5.24 Million for Jon Leuer's injury so we can use 3.2 million of it to get a nice piece to make a playoff run.

07 Feb 2018 04:20:06
Detroit get McCollum, Hezonja

Portland gets J.parker, Payton, Fournier, snell

Orlando get 1st det, 1st Blazers, Jackson,
Ellenson, Turner, M.leonard

Milwaukee get Vucevic, Galloway

07 Feb 2018 14:09:04
The Bucks say NO!

07 Feb 2018 15:37:42
Detroit 1st going to LAC in the Blake Griffin deal.

08 Feb 2018 04:11:01
It’s the next 1st available from detroit.

05 Feb 2018 19:48:07
Pistons-Suns- Jazz

Pistons: Booker,Hood

Suns: Stanley Johnson, Burks, 2019 pistons 1st and Jazz 1st round

Jazz: Luke Kennard and Tyler Ulis

05 Feb 2018 20:05:54
Detroit robs both teams. Booker is almost completely untouchable. The Jazz barely get enough back to give up Hood for and there is no way they give up a lottery pick as well.

05 Feb 2018 20:26:42
Suns are not giving up Devin Booker for that package. He's a 21 year old putting up 24,5,5 a night.

05 Feb 2018 20:26:54
Gtfoh booker is untouchable.

05 Feb 2018 20:41:12
Hey Dema give me a hit of that.

06 Feb 2018 00:58:48
Jazz, and Suns hang up the phone on whoever suggests this.

05 Feb 2018 19:19:24
CLE-LAC-MIL-MIN trade

Cleveland gets- Deandre Jordan, Mathew Delladova, Lou Williams

Los Angeles gets- John Henson, Channing Frye, Cole Aldrich, Cedi Osman, Ante Zizic, Rashad Vaugn, Shabazz Muhammad, 1st rd pick (BKN)

Milwaukee gets- Tristan Thompson, Iman Shumpert

Minnesota gets- JR Smith, 1st rd pick ( worse of LAC or DET pick)

WHY I THINK EACH TEAM DOES THIS...

CLE- They want Deandre Jordan and Lou Williams. Delly is someone Lebron likes and can help them in defense.

LAC- They get assets that they can evaluate and cut if they don't like them. They also don't have to take back any horrendous contracts.

MIL- They get a big man who is a tenacious rebounder and a wing defender, without having to give up much.

MIN- High Risk trade that could pay off, JR offers the CHANCE of added shooting. They get a draft pick for taking on the player with the worst contract/ lowest upside.

What do you think? Thanks!

05 Feb 2018 19:33:46
HA HA HA! Milwaukee says NO! Thompson is worse than Henson, Shumpert is worse than Dellavedova, Vaughn will be a toss in on any trade. Why is it ALL Cav fans try and screw all other teams? Then give back "Crap" in return? How about Milwaukee trades 3rd string and seldom used SG R. Vaughn for Thomas, Love and L. James, Plus the Cav's 1st rd. picks for the next 20 years? Makes just about as much sense!

05 Feb 2018 19:47:16
Way overselling Thompson, and Shumpert. Negative value.

05 Feb 2018 19:57:44
jorgawood--youre probably right, I just feel like Thompson would be a good fit with the Bucks he's a high energy player, Shumpert was just a toss in bc his contract ends after next year

The Dark Side-- I don't even like the cavs. I'm a lifelong Wolves fan, just sharing an interesting trade that I personally thought was fair.

05 Feb 2018 21:03:52
@ maplejordan. As a Wolves fan you would have know better. How about, Thompson and Shumpert for KAT, and Wiggins? Look at Thompsons stats. plus the Fact that he's dragging along some extra luggage (Kardashagin) Thompson might be "high energy" but, so is Dellavedova, and at times Henson can be, Both are overpaid, Like Thompson and Shumpert! Bucks need a Defensive Rim Protector. Someone who weighs more than 200 lbs. Henson and Maker are both just tall (6'11" and 7'1") PF's playing Center, and nothing more. I would rather have Jordan, Whiteside, Or at the very least McGee (Now that's "High Energy! ") or Bogut playing Center.

07 Feb 2018 20:41:10
Terrible. Tristan Thompson is horrible. Way over paid like his gfs family. They do nothing and get money. Only value Thompson has is to the CBA where he might be an average player. I’ll take Raef Lafrentz if he comes out of retirement over Thompson.

05 Feb 2018 18:21:53
Clippers - Cavs

Clippers gets:
Thompson
Shumpert
2018 1st rd pick BKN (via Cavs)

Cavs gets:
Jordan
Williams
2018 1st rd pick Clippers or Pistons (worst)

05 Feb 2018 18:41:23
LAC says yes, CLE says no. There's looming salary implications with both Lou, and Jordan, and James. Not trading the BRK pick says a lot about their future plans.

05 Feb 2018 19:15:14
Cleveland would have to consider this Jorga. The contract situation does create a long term issue but for this season alone. Jordan and Williams would help fix their problems on the court and after this season they would deal with the contracts when Lebron makes his decision. The main selling point in this trade though is the extra pick. Doesn’t matter which first it is. The would still have two first and most likely 2 between 15-25 range that they can either select players still on draft night or package those of another return. The extra pick though is only 5-10 slots back from the Nets pick which makes this deal hard to pass.

05 Feb 2018 19:52:32
I still think Thompson, and Shumpert are the last things on LAC mind. I didn't notice the 1st going to CLE the first time I commented either. There will have to be no other offers of significance to LAC for these guys to be CAVS. LAC is definitely not giving a first for this in any way. Thompson is overpaid, and so is Shumpert.

04 Feb 2018 22:25:58
Det/Bkn/ Mil

Det: Carroll, Acy, J. Harris

Bkn: Leuer, S. Johnson, Ellenson, Vaughn

Bucks: Zeller

Det: They add a wing with the loss of Tobias without dealing Luke

Bkn: Add 3 young players to build with from a vet and exp contacts

Mil: Swap a SG who isn't seeing minutes with a C in the same situation

04 Feb 2018 23:48:17
Instead of Zeller, Send J. Okafor. Then Mil. can send Vaughn and a 2nd.

04 Feb 2018 21:14:00
DET: J. Clarkson

LAL: L. Kennard


Lakers get a player with more potential, Pistons get an offensive piece with a little more experience.

04 Feb 2018 22:06:02
Salary cap, doesn't work.

05 Feb 2018 02:07:58
Who disagrees with salary doesn't work?

Pistons are over the cap, and Clarkson makes $9M more than Kennard. I'm guessing the disagree comes from winklevi.

05 Feb 2018 18:35:34
Wasn't me actually, your comment makes sense. I was just looking at player comparisons originally, never even considered the salary differences.

03 Feb 2018 14:19:02
2 Thunder trades for playoff push.

#1

Okc gets: Stanley Johnson, Anthony Toliver
Det gets: Kyle Singler, Jeremi Grant


#2

Okc gets: Jonathan Simmons, Mo Speights
Orl gets: Alex Abrines, Josh Huestis, 2nd



OKC needs a little shakeup to help them for a playoff run. Biggest needs taken care of in the second trade: backup 5 and a Roberson replacement. But the first one also helps them moving forward. They won't be able to pay Grant this summer. They want to get rid of Singler. Singler played well in Detroit and could be a nice add. Grant can do what Toliver and Johnson do but better. Okc tries to hit on a buy low guy in Stanley and get an expiring deal as they approach the summer.

03 Feb 2018 14:55:37
Detroit won't do that

03 Feb 2018 15:06:45
Tolliver is 6-8 guy off the bench for Detroit doubt if they want to trade him. OKC needs to add more incentive if Abrines, and Huestis are their offer to Orlando. Recent report has them eyeing Bradley. Maybe something materializes?

05 Feb 2018 02:15:17
Don’t like it. No way Singler comes back.

02 Feb 2018 12:16:53
DETROIT: Cj McCollum - Terrence Ross - Elfrid Payton

UTAH: S. Johnson

ORLANDO: R. Jackson - L. Kennard

PORTLAND: R. Hood - J. Leuer

02 Feb 2018 13:46:05
This is a ridiculous return for CJ. If Neil said yes to this, he should be fired immediately.

02 Feb 2018 17:19:05
I agree Portland needs more.

02 Feb 2018 18:13:39
Stanley Johnson for Hood is undervalue for Utah as well.

05 Feb 2018 02:18:37
This trade is off. Cj and Hood has more value. As a Piston fan I’ll take this. But if I’m Portland or Utah I’ll hang up.

02 Feb 2018 00:39:06
Detroit trade 1

Trades Leuer and Bullock
Gets - Shabazz and Aldrich

- Det more wing scoring
- Min gets more spot up shooting

Trade 2

Trades - Jackson Elleson and a 2nd (add another if needed)
Gets - Harris and McRoberts

- Det gets backup PG that can spot up
- Dal gets a prospect under Dirk so can now draft Donic or Ayton, adds 2nds

Smith/Harris
Galloway/Kennard
Johnson/Shabazz
Griffin/Johnson
Drummond/Reed

02 Feb 2018 02:09:55
The Pistons aren't going to make two more trades right after acquiring Blake Griffin. Also these trades don't work salary wise. Jon Leuer is on a 10 M dollar contract.

02 Feb 2018 02:49:49
I think Bullock is a better wing scorer than Muhammed. Leuer, and Dieng? Not ideal. Especially salaries.

02 Feb 2018 04:47:25
Bullock is better than Muhammad.

05 Feb 2018 02:19:19
Rather keep Reggie than get Muhammad.

02 Feb 2018 01:04:18
MEM-DET

MEM: S.Johnson + 2nd round pick

DET: T.Evans

02 Feb 2018 02:01:01
Don't know, but I think BOS might have put a deal on the table, and MEM is waiting for any, and all other offers until the last minute.

02 Feb 2018 04:48:51
Evans as pg until Jackson comes back could work out well with Griffin and Drummond passing the ball.

05 Feb 2018 02:20:03
I like this trade.

 
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