23 Jul 2017 07:09:42
Everyone else is throwing Kyrie trades out there so I figured I would give it a go. Combined a couple ideas I saw and got this:
Boston
Trades: Thomas, Crowder, '18 Brooklyn 1st
Recieves: Irving
Solves the point guard problem next summer when Thomas is a free absent and they get a superstar.
Irving/Rozier
Brown/Smart
Hayward/Tatum
Morris/Yabusele
Horford/Zizic/Baynes
Cavs
Trade: Irving, Thompson, Frye
Recieve: Thomas, Crowder, Jordan, Lou Williams
Get more depth and talent.
Sign Speights
Thomas/Williams
LeBron/Smith
Crowder/Korver
Love/Jefferson
Jordan/Speights
Clippers
Trade: Jordan, Williams
Recieve: Thompson, Frye, '18 Brooklyn 1st
It was rumored they offered Jordan straight up for #3, so I think this would be a good option for them.
Beverly/Evans
Rivers/Thornwell
Gallanari/Dekkar
Griffin/Harrell
Thompson/Frye
1.) 23 Jul 2017
23 Jul 2017 09:05:46
I would love to have Irving in Boston. Nur I don't think the Cavs accept it because IT will be a free agent next year so bis value is a little bit too low. If you add the lakers pick it might work but I'm afraid the Cavs want Brown or Tatum as they are on ein now mode. If I were the Celtics gm I don't know if I would do it. I'm really uncertain. The second trade won't work either because the clippers don't want to rebuild.
2.) 23 Jul 2017
23 Jul 2017 09:46:56
Don't think Boston will trade Crowder. Maybe swap him with brown.
3.) 23 Jul 2017
23 Jul 2017 12:19:03
Celtics are definitely an attractive trade partner since they have quality pieces that can help Cavs now as well as young assets and draft picks which can just be ammo for another Cavs trade down the line or help Cavs rebuild if Lebron leaves.
If I were Cavs I'd be interested in a package of IT, Crowder/ Brown and a combo of draft picks. IT can replace a lot of the offense you lose with Kyrie (neither give you much more than that) and the other pieces help to compensate for ITs upcoming FA as well as Irving's younger age and better contract. This move could arguably put Cavs in a better position to compete this year (adding a versatile defender like Crowder that doesn't hurt you on offense would be huge for Cavs) while allowing them to have assets to fall back on if Lebron left (could move Crowder, Love and TT and use Nets/ lakers pick to hopefully get a new face of the franchise) .
I think this trade could also make a lot of sense for Celtics because they'd avoid having to pay a 29 yr old IT over 30 mill per year well into his 30s and instead get a younger, cheaper, better and bigger point guard to be new face of their franchise. Kyrie's youth enables them to move some of their picks without significantly hurting their bright future and also is perfect bridge player as someone who can help them now and later. Celtics also have a little bit of a crowded forward rotation so I think moving Crowder or Brown wouldn't hurt them as much as it may seem. Knowing Celtics however, they wouldn't give up this much and just try and low ball the Cavs until Cavs get fed up. There is also the issue of these two teams being rivals right now helping each other.
Not as big of a fan of including Clippers part since although Jordan would be an upgrade over Thompson don't think he is a big enough one to justify giving up Brooklyn pick (assuming they can get that pick) even if they got back Williams. If the pick was a lesser pick like Clipper or Memphis 2019 or Celtics 2018 I could see it happening however (If Cavs got Lakers + one of those picks instead of Nets as part of their return) .
4.) 23 Jul 2017
23 Jul 2017 14:32:23
I love that lebron plays the two because crowder demands respect and the 3.
Good one.
5.) 23 Jul 2017
23 Jul 2017 15:40:34
Hamburger - it's about getting the best players on the court and if that means LeBron plays the 2 then I think he is more than capable.