17 Sep 2018 23:19:14
MIL - MIN - ORL

Milwaukee get Butler, Dieng
Minnesota get Brogdon, Snell, Vucevic, ORL 2019 2nd, MIL 2020 2nd
Orlando get Bledsoe, Zeller

Bucks make their Big 3 with Giannis, Butler and Middleton. They will have to slip DiVicenzo into starting pg or roll with Dellavedova.

Minny replace Butler with Brogdon and give the keys again to KAT-Wiggins. They get rid off Dieng's deal, while upgrading with Vuc. They get one more wing that Thibs had in Bulls and two 2nds.

Magic get a starting pg they need. They also make more room for Bamba, having behind him Mozgov, Birch and Zeller.


1.) 18 Sep 2018
18 Sep 2018 01:27:23
I don't hate this idea.
Bucks give up two expiring players, an over paid wing and a 2nd for a top 10/ 20 player and a bad contract - would say yes

Wolves get 2 quality starters for a player who looks to be gone for by the end of the year and shave 5m/ year between Dieng and Snell - may lean towards a no (may ask for Brogdon + Middleton)

Magic get a good starting PG and clear C mins for their youth. - would say yes.


2.) 18 Sep 2018
18 Sep 2018 02:31:39
I believe the Bucks would also agree to this trade! Snell has gone down since last year, Brogdan also has gone down since Bledsoe arrived and Brogdan loss the starting PG job to him. Zeller will either be cut or traded replaced by C Woods. Actually a cheap price to pay to get Butler!


3.) 18 Sep 2018
18 Sep 2018 04:18:20
Its a great idea all around, but I think the T wolves would get greedy and ask for Middleton rather than Snell.


4.) 18 Sep 2018
18 Sep 2018 14:41:36
@jaymocha I don't think Milwaukee would send Middleton in a trade for Butler. Both are to similar type of players.


5.) 18 Sep 2018
18 Sep 2018 15:14:30
I don't see any way Minny trades Butler to the Bucks without Middleton unless there's at least one (probably two) firsts going to Minny. Brogdon has moderate value, Snell is maybe worth a second rounder (though, maybe his value is negative a second rounder), Zeller is a throw in.

Butler is a clear upgrade over Middleton. And since they're both expiring deals, it makes sense to move one for the other.


6.) 18 Sep 2018
18 Sep 2018 15:50:57
Trading Middleton with Butler won't put Milwaukee into a much better situation since they will still be with Bledsoe at their Top 3 minus an asset (let's say Brogdon) . Also, Giannis could be left alone next year since Middleton is much more likely to remain a Buck. IMO Butler would stay in Milwaukee only in a team with Giannis and Middleton, because that would give him a real chance for a ring.


7.) 18 Sep 2018
18 Sep 2018 17:50:48
The Bucks have 4 options if a Middleton/ Butler swap is possible:

Trade for Butler and pair him with Giannis. You're a top 3 team in the east. Resign Butler and stay a really good team that probably can't compete for a championship.

Trade for Butler, have one good year, and then he bolts. Now you're a lottery team. And you have a really good chance of Giannis asking out or leaving.

Keep Middleton, he resigns for an enormous deal that makes him overpaid, and you're a good team that is a 4-8 seed in the east again. And you have a really good chance of Giannis asking out or leaving.

Keep Middleton, and he walks. Now you're a lottery team again. And you have a really good chance of Giannis asking out or leaving.

I'd roll the dice on getting the better player, sacrificing the role player (Brogdon) and the increased likelihood of losing that player. I think the only way the Bucks convince Giannis to sign his next extension is if he has an all star by his side. Middleton isn't that player.


8.) 18 Sep 2018
18 Sep 2018 19:13:21
Middleton defense not on Butler level. Middleton can shoot better. But Middleton a top 35 while Butler a top 15. Middleton is trying to go from role player to all star while Butler been an All star. But I give Middleton props over years he improved his shooting greatly over the years and last year lead league in true shooting. I like Middleton but he not similar to Butler he a tier or two under Butler. But he no longer a role player he a borderline all star. I want to see that play off play in the season.