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23 Sep 2017 08:48:56
Jazz-Cavaliers-Pacers

Jazz get Young

Cavaliers get Favors

Pacers get 1st Cavs, Shumpert & Frye

23 Sep 2017 07:26:30
PACERS-SUNS

PACERS : Chriss + Warren + 1st

SUNS : Turner + Young

23 Sep 2017 18:34:43
I would do Bender+ Jackson+ 1rst for Young and Turner.

23 Sep 2017 07:16:34
Ranking the Melo trade options in order
Deadline: 9/25/17
1 . Trade Melo to the Cavaliers for Shumpert, three expirings (Frye, Jefferson, Felder) & 2018 Nets 1st.
PG Thomas / Rose
SG Smith / Korver
SF James / Crowder
PF Love / Anthony
C Thompson / Zizic

2 . Trade Melo to the Blazers for Harkless, three expirings (Davis, Vonleah, Napier) and a future 1st.
PG Lillard - Turner
SG McCollum - Connuaghton
SF Aminu - Layman
PF Anthony - Leonard
C Nurkic - Collins

3 . Houston gives Anderson and a 2nd to Pacers; non-guaranteed contracts/1st to Knicks. Pacers send short-term deals (Jefferson/Stephenson) to Knicks. Knicks trade Melo to Rockets.
PG Paul / Brown
SG Harden / Gordon
SF Ariza / Tucker
PF Anthony / Mbah A Moute
C Capela / Nene

4 . Thunder gives Kanter and a 2nd to Mavericks; Doug McDermott (expiring) to the Knicks. Mavericks Barea, two expirings (McRoberts, Harris) to the Knicks. Knicks trade Melo to Thunder.
PG Westbrook / Felton
SG Roberson / Abrines
SF George / Grant
PF Anthony / Patterson
C Adams / Collison

23 Sep 2017 07:31:37
The Cavs aren't giving up the Nets pick for Melo and it would take more to get the Pacers to take on Andersons contract. A 2nd isn't even almost worth it.

23 Sep 2017 16:51:42
Yeah, no way Cleveland includes the nets pick unless porzingis is included as well (which obviously won't happen) .

23 Sep 2017 18:00:20
Maybe the cavs pick but no way are they trading the Brooklyn pickf for melo.

23 Sep 2017 18:35:52
Indy would want a first

Portland would be a good fit for him.

20 Sep 2017 01:41:50
Cavs-Jazz-Pacers

Cavs get Turner, Young

Jazz get Love

Pacers get Nets pick, Favors, Burks , Jazz 1st

20 Sep 2017 16:04:39
I think it would be a great move for the Cavs. Love is solid, but he's not getting any younger, and Turner is currently cheaper. Thad also gives you solid production. The Pacers, if they were ever thinking of moving Turner, get a fantastic return. I don't think the Jazz do this though. As I said, I like Love, but he's not the type of player you're looking for if you're in their situation. He isn't enough to put them over the top, and he's not young enough to start rebuilding around with a blowup.

20 Sep 2017 19:12:11
I think it would be decent for Utah. They need to replace Haywards scoring, Love would be a great fit next to Gobert, and it's not like they're giving up anything all that valuable to them. If they had Love, they'd be garaunteed a playoff spot ( I'd argue Love is better than Hayward) so the pick would be fairly late Favors isn't a good fit next to Gobert. He will be a really expensive back up soon. Burks is decent, but he's always injured and their rotation has fine without him. For the price, I don't see age being a big deal. It's not perfect, but they aren't mortaring their future on Love.

I'm not sure about it for the Cavs on one side, I love Turner. The guy is going to be really good sooner rather than later, but I think for the next year or two Love is still the better option. He can still be an elite scorer and rebounder and has turned into a pretty solid defender (he actually was the best Cavs defender according to real d plus minus for what it's worth) . According to Lou they're going to feature him more on the post. They did that last year in the first quarter of games at times and he looked like Minnesota Love and if the Cavs are starting a rebuild next year he could be worth some decent young players or picks. I also don't like the thought of starting a rebuild and immediately having to give up a max contract to a guy. Starting a rebuild with a top 5 pick is a little riskier, but it keeps cap space open to take on bad contracts and etc. I think the Cavs threaded the needle with the Irving trade. I think this trade does that to an extent, but it seems like this makes them a little worse this year and makes it a little harder to rebuild next year. I also think they could get Young for a protected first, some expirings, and maybe a something else small if they really wanted him.

20 Sep 2017 23:03:11
I would do that trade.
I really like Turner, but i think we should go for a total rebuilt.

I still can't believe we trade PG13 for Oladipo.

20 Sep 2017 23:34:33
i don't dislike this trade.
Maybe if we could trade Favors for antother draft pick.

19 Sep 2017 01:30:24
New Orleans-Indiana

New Orleans get : T.Young

Indiana get : A.Ajinca, E.Moore top 12 protected 1st rd pick

this gives Pelicans a solid back up for Boogie and AD while the Pacers gain a 1st and gives more playing time to their young bigs

Pelicans
sign G.Green to vet min

Rondo-Clark-Jackson
Holiday-Crawford
Allen-Hill-Green
Davis-Young-Diallo
Cousins-Asik

19 Sep 2017 04:46:02
Starting Allen and Rondo around Cousins and AD would
cause a ton of problems for the Pelicans offense. Teams could sag into the paint and bring the double off either guy if one of the two bigs gets the ball in the paint. Cousins and Davis wouldn't have much room to work at all. I think Moore's high level shooting is much more useful for the Pelicans than having a better back up pf.

19 Sep 2017 20:39:29
Wow. I actually agree with RKenne.

18 Sep 2017 15:21:48
MILWAUKEE-New York-CLEVELAND-Indiana

Milwaukee receives:
V. Oladipo (IND)
T. Young (IND)
L. Thomas (NYK)

New York receives:
T. Thompson (CLE)
M. Teletovic (MKE)

Cleveland receives:
C Anthony (NYK)
A. Jefferson (IND)
M. Delladova (MKE)

Indiana receives:
G. Monroe (MKE)
J. Henson (MKE)
J.R. Smith (CLE)
I. Shumpert (CLE)

18 Sep 2017 15:36:25
Indiana will not give up Oladipo at least not for this. Indiana gave up George for Victor and Sabonis so the value has to be high on them plus Indiana has Jefferson and Turner still so adding Henson and Monroe wouldn't make sense.

19 Sep 2017 13:34:57
Maybe if Love was traded to Indiana it would work instead of JR or Shumpert?

19 Sep 2017 15:37:09
DL, so the Cavs trade Love and Thompson (really the only two players on the roster that can start at center and their two best rebounders) to get back Melo (the Cavs didn't even want him in a package for Irving), Delly (would be a third string point guard and only play limited minutes in the playoffs), and Jefferson (really doesn't fit the offense and would only get minutes because there wouldn't be anyone else to fill them at center)? I'm not sure if the Cavs do the original trade, but just throwing in Love is ridiculous.

I also don't think the Pacers would be interested in Love since they're looking to rebuild and he is 29.

The only team that would definitely say yes to either version of this trade is the Bucks. They give up almost nothing and get back a decent starter in Young and a really good young 2way Sg in Olidipo. Maybe the Knicks say yes, but they already have multiple solid young big men and they would have 2 centers making over 15 million each.

19 Sep 2017 22:32:46
The bucks should include giannis to Indy:-)

14 Sep 2017 12:12:06
Pacers-Bucks-Knicks

Pacers get Middleton, Parker, Henson & 1st from Bucks

Collison/Young
Oladipo/Stephenson/Robinson
Middleton/Bogdanovic
Young/Parker
Henson/Sabonis/Leaf

Bucks get Turner , Lee & Oquinn

Brogdon/Delly/Payton
Lee/Snell
Giannis/Vaughn
Maker/Teletovic/Wilson
Turner/Monroe/Oquinn

Knicks get Joseph, A.Jefferson & 2nd round pick from Bucks

Joseph/Nkitlina/Sessions
Hardaway/Thomas/Baker
Anthony/Thomas
Porzingis/Kuzminkas
Hernangomez/Jefferson/Noah

14 Sep 2017 18:48:06
Bucks say hell no.

15 Sep 2017 20:59:10
Turner is the best player with the most upside in that trade. SMH

Turner Maker Wilson Gianni and Brogdon could be my favorite in the east.

Celtics no more perimeter defense

Cavs lost chemistry.

18 Sep 2017 06:35:04
That would be a solid team, but Shizzee, you're delusional if you think that team would win the East.

14 Sep 2017 12:04:33
If Cavs have Shumpert, Frye (exp) & their 2018 own 1st to trade, who would they use them for?

it should be a perimeter defender or a decent back up big

some list,

To Chicago for Robin Lopez?
To San Antonio for Danny Green? highly unlikely though
To Pacers for Thad Young?
To Knicks for Oquinn & Thomas or Lee?
To Mavericks for Wesley Matthews & 2nd?
To Raptors for Valanciunas?
To Bucks for Monroe?
To Hornets for MKG?
To Thunder for Roberson?

any idea guys?

14 Sep 2017 13:34:48
Cleveland's own No.1 will be late 20s at best, so it has little value (in fact, teams would prefer an early 2nd to a late first because first-rounders require guaranteed money) .
That leaves Frye, who is cooked, and Shumpert, who has little value and is at best a lower-rotation player.
Out of your offers I see maybe Valanciunas, but none of the others. But even at that, Valanciunas might tick off James by clogging the lane.

14 Sep 2017 15:50:29
I don't see Val, it would just leave the Raps too thin at the five. I agree Super with your valuation, so maybe Monroe at best, and probably not even him.

14 Sep 2017 11:43:39
# TRADE # IND - ORL

Pacers get T. Ross
Magic gets A. Jefferson / G. Robinson III

14 Sep 2017 22:19:22
Magic don't need either player so better deal for Indy.

14 Sep 2017 02:03:26
Wolves-Wizards-Spurs-Pacers

Wolves : M.Morris, B.Forbes
- Morris would be the perfect stretch 4 for the Twolves as he plays as a role player and let their stars shine, a mid to late 1st is worth it.

Teague-Jones-Forbes
Butler-Crawford-Rush
Wiggins-Muhammad
Morris-Gibson
Towns-Dieng-Patton

Wizards : L.Aldridge
- they get their 3rd star
- sign Gerald Green

Wall-Frazier
Beal-Green-Meeks
Porter-Oubre
Aldridge-Satoransky
Mahinmi-Smith

Spurs : M.Gortat, T.Young, 1st from Wizards
- they move on from Aldridge and get 2 big men who can grind for them and adding a 1st. Quite a good return for LMA

Mills-Murray-Parker-White
Green-Ginobili
Leonard-Gay-Anderson
Young-Lauvergne-Bertans
Gasol-Gortat

Pacers : C.Aldrich, 1st from Twolves
- get a 1st to continue rebuild

Collison-Joseph-Young
Oladipo-Stephenson
Bogdanovic-GR3
Sabonis-Leaf
Turner-Jefferson-Aldrich

12 Sep 2017 02:14:47
Pacers/Heat/Jazz

Pacers get 1st round pick MIA (lottery protected), Alec Burks

Heat get Derrick Favors, Pacers 2nd round pick

Jazz get Thad Young, Wayne Ellington

07 Sep 2017 04:22:19
Cavs-Pacers


Cavs get Thad Young
Lineup: (when healthy)
PG: Thomas, Rose, Felder
SG: Crowder, Smith, Calderon
SF: James, Korver, Osman
PF: Love, Green, Jefferson
C: Thompson, Young, Zizic

Pacers get Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye, and Cavs own 2018 1st
Lineup:
PG: Collison, Joseph, Young
SG: Oladipo, Shumpert, Wilkins
SF: Bogdanovic, Stephenson, Robinson
PF: Sabonis, Leaf, Frye
C: Turner, Jefferson, Anigbogu.

05 Sep 2017 18:54:47
MEM - IND

MEM get: Thad Young

pg. Conley
sg. Evans
sf. Parsons
pf. Young
c. Gasol

IND get: Brandon Wright (exp), James Ennis III (exp), and Jarrell Martin

pg. Joseph
sg. Oladipo
sf. Stephenson
pf. Sabonis
c. Turner

05 Sep 2017 08:11:20
Pacers/Grizzlies st

Pacers get J.Green

Grizzlies get T.Young

05 Sep 2017 18:55:16
No way from the Pacers.

02 Sep 2017 23:35:17
Cavs Memphis Indiana

Cavs receive
Conley
Gasol

Memphis receives
Young
Smith
Shumpert
Turner
Felder
2018 Nets Pick

Indiana receives
Thompson
Wright
Osman
Cavs 2021 pick
Cavs second round pick 2019
Cavs second round pick 2022

03 Sep 2017 02:16:32
Turner might have more value than any other single piece in that trade. The Pacers aren't getting nearly enough.

02 Sep 2017 23:23:27
Cavs get cousins
Pelicans get shumpert Frye osman Brooklyn 1st

Cavs get young
Pacers get felder Jefferson zizic heat 2nd cavs 2nd

Cavs sign wade (if bought out) Ellis bogut

Thomas rose Calderon
Smith wade Ellis
James crowder korver
Love young green
Cousins thompson bogut

25 Aug 2017 16:16:27
Cavs still need to become a bit more versatile to beat the Warriors

•Trade Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye, and own 2018 1st to Indiana for Thad Young

•Waive Kay Felder and re-sign him to a 2-way contract

•Sign James Young 1yr minimum

Lineup:
PG: Thomas, Rose, Calderon
SG: Smith, Korver, Young
SF: James, Crowder, Osman
PF: Love, Young, Green
C: Thompson, Zizic, Tavares.

25 Aug 2017 17:22:27
If James Young is the answer, you're asking the wrong question.

25 Aug 2017 17:44:17
Yes, if it were James Young, I agree Collider, but since it's Thad Young and the question is who is you're 3rd or 4th man off the bench, that's a pretty good answer.

25 Aug 2017 19:54:07
Rkenne----
•Sign James Young 1yr minimum.

25 Aug 2017 20:01:48
James Young is listed as a 3rd stringer and he'd likely be behind Osman too, so I don't think I stated he's the answer to anything.

26 Aug 2017 00:56:40
Still there's no sense in signing James Young.

25 Aug 2017 14:19:29
Cavs get cousins
Pelicans get shumpert Frye zizic Brooklyn 1st

Cavs get young
Pacers get smith Jefferson felder osman

Sign wade (once bought out) Ellis Ezeli Allen

Thomas rose Calderon
wade korver Ellis
James crowder Allen
Love young green
Cousins thompson Ezeli

25 Aug 2017 14:46:24
Keep reading the Cavs trade rumor page and dream on. You are NOT getting Cousins for that group back.

25 Aug 2017 15:07:01
Dacman, not right now, but come the trade deadline when Mew Orleans is 11th in the West and Cousins looks like he's gone, that will be a pretty solid package for New Orleans. It's really not much less than they sent for Cousins and I would imagine that with his contact about
to expire his value has only went down.

25 Aug 2017 18:17:37
Tell ya what rkenne_16, if that were true i'd agree but that will not even be close to the case unless they have major injury issues.

25 Aug 2017 18:57:12
Maybe not 11, but realistically they look like they'll finish 9th or 10th.

25 Aug 2017 02:13:14
Pacers-Rockets-Knicks

Pacers get Anderson & Rockets 1st

Rockets get Anthony

Knicks get Ariza & Young

25 Aug 2017 04:46:22
I think the Pacers could a first out of young without taking on a bad contract.

25 Aug 2017 18:13:11
Indy should get two first round picks and a couple second rounders for doing this.

25 Aug 2017 02:09:46
Celtics-Pacers

Celtics get Turner & lottery protected 1st 2019

Pacers get Brown & LAL pick 2019

 
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