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23 May 2017 09:22:34
76ers get #1 pick
boston get george
pacers get crowder,saric, '18 lal pick & '19 sac pick(via 76ers)

23 May 2017 10:10:37
why would indy do that?
We rather have the first pick.

23 May 2017 12:40:19
Are the Sixers giving enough to get pick 1 without trading 2017 #3?

Embiid Simmons fultz and jackson would be a nice group to build around.

22 May 2017 23:55:08
I heard Paul George have interest in play with Gordon Hayward. How Indiana trade Paul George to Utah for Derrick Favors, Dante Exum , 24th pick, 42nd pick and right to 2020 highest 1st round pick between Utah and Oklahoma pick. Resign Hayward using his bird right.

23 May 2017 01:01:21
Its more likely Hayward just signs with Indy (he is from Indy and played college ball there) . Jazz would have to give up much more to get George. They have some solid young pieces like Hood, Lyles in addition to Exum but ultimately Jazz can't compete with what Celtics or Lakers could offer.

21 May 2017 17:53:57

Thunder get Blake Griffin (3yr 85m), JJ Redick (2yr 36m), and #47 pick (via Pacers)

Clippers get Paul George, Thad Young, and Alex Abrines

Pacers get Victor Oladipo, Enes Kanter, Brice Johnson, and #21 pick (via OKC)

21 May 2017 18:08:48
why would indy do this?

21 May 2017 18:15:38
Ok thunder. Just stop.

21 May 2017 18:40:12
Instead of losing George for nothing, the Pacers go young and build around Turner.

21 May 2017 21:57:51
PG13 wouldn't turn down a 200 Million contract.

22 May 2017 04:39:57
Of course PG13 wouldn't turn down 200 mil. But he can only get 180 mil over 5 years.

21 May 2017 14:15:46
knicks offseason

trade melo to indiana for monta ellis,thaddeus young and cj miles

draft dennis smith

Danilo Gallinari
Darren collison

2017/18 lineup

Darren Collison/Dennis Smith
Courtney Lee/Monta Ellis
Danilo Gallinari/Justin Holiday
Thaddeus Young/Willy Hernangomez
Kristaps Porzingis/Joakim Noah

21 May 2017 15:08:42
Do you really think Anthony will waive his no-trade clause to go to a team that is rebuilding in a city that closes its clubs at 10 pm on weekends?

21 May 2017 18:38:36
Colliders right, no way Melo waives to go to Pacers.

21 May 2017 19:09:25
Supercolider enjoy Celtics sweep. Melo for Crowder getting closer to happening.

22 May 2017 04:17:58
Shizzee -- What sweep are you talking about?

21 May 2017 11:42:18
Suns trade 4th pick, 32th pick, Bledsoe, Knight, Bender, Heat 1st round pick 2018
Suns get George, Turner, Ellis

Jazz trade Exum, Burks, 30th pick
Jazz get Bledsoe, 32th pick

Pacers trade George, Turner, Ellis
Pacers get 4th pick, 30th pick, Exum, Bender, Burks, Knight, Heat 1st round pick 2018

- sign Lowry to max

- sign Milsap and resign Mack
- resign Hayward
- with the addition of Milsap and Bledsoe + the new playoff experience, Jazz will be a force and a reason for Hayword to resign

- resign Teague
- 4th pick Jackson or Tatum will be future replacement for George (both top3 talents)
- Turner is a young talent Pacers could need, but without him as well, they can tank "better", instead develop Bender (4th pick 2016) and Exum (5th pick 2014) and Jackson/Tatum (2017), Knight and Burks also still have room for development

21 May 2017 12:23:31
Not good enough for Pacers if they're including George and Turner.

21 May 2017 15:08:44
Suns say no to this one. ICYMI, they are trying to go with youth and a vet or two. PHX does not want Ellis nor Lowry. Suns would like to get Turner. but George is a no deal. No way he would not sign a long term deal in PHX. There are better deals to be made with Bledsoe and maybe one of those Miami picks.

21 May 2017 03:15:24
3 team trade between 76ers Lakers and pacers

76ers get D. Russell and B. Ingram
Lakers get J. Okafor and P. George
Pacers get 76er first round pick and L. dang

76ers Starting 5
Pg- Simmons

Lakers starting 5
Pacers start to rebuild with Myles turner and now 2 first rounders. One being the third overall pick.

21 May 2017 03:51:00
Must be a 76ers fan. Pacers get screwed.

21 May 2017 03:55:51
If I'm Pacers I'd prefer Russell and Ingram over 76ers Pick so don't think 76ers should be involved if this is all they are contributing. They'd have to add Lakers or 76ers 2018 pick to make it worth it.

21 May 2017 03:06:09
76ers get Russell and Ingram

Lakers get J. Okafor and Paul George

Pacers get L. Deng and number 3 overall pick (76ers first rounder) .

Sixers starting 5 next season
Pg Simmons
Sg Russell
Sf Ingram
Pf Sarcic
C Embid

Lakers starting 5 next season
Pg ball-ucla
Sg clarkson
Sf Paul George
Pf- Randall
C- Okafor

Pacers starting 5 next season.

21 May 2017 03:51:56
Pacers still get screwed.

20 May 2017 06:09:24
Sooooooo, i have a theory!

Markelle fultz the consensus #1 pick in this years draft is projected to go to the celtics. Danny ainge himself has said he doesn't see a 19 year old coming and and leading a team to a championship and if they take fultz i have every reason to believe they'll trade him for an established star. Now any team trading with the celtics say the bulls or pacers would be trading for the most assets they can get to jumpstart they're rebuild. So instead of trading for that pick and say abery bradley or marcus smart/ terry rozier? Why not trade for multiple pick which i don't think the celtics would be willing to give unless they traded that number one pick for additional picks to a team with an abundance of picks liks say ehhhh the SIXERS!!! There isn't a team in the nba who that markelle would fit i'm with like the sixers. With them tanking for so long and have already believe to have their franchise cornerstones in embiid and simmons i don't think trading say this years 3rd pick the lakers 2018 pick and a protected top 5 2019 pick along with jahlil okafor would hurt their future and i don't see the celtics saying no. They can aquire the star they desire like a jimmy butler without giving up some of their core players and still have a strong possibility of adding a guy like gordon hayward though free agency. I really only see them having to give up a few picks and say jaylen brown and marcus smart for jimmy butler, add hayward in free agency and those picks/players they gave up mean nothing.

Again just a theory but i would love to see fultz on the sixers. As for the celtics i don't believe they'll be the same team next year and i don't think fultz is going to be apart of that franchise, i think its a smart move to move that pick for more picks and flip those exact picks and jaylen brown/marcus smart or terry rozier for butler. You get your young center in okafor through that philly trade. Aquire jimmy buckets, sign hayward and i think they could actually challenge the cavs.

Share your thoughts.

20 May 2017 10:34:45
Celtics very well may trade Fultz, whether or not they include 76ers in the deal depends heavily on the team involved and their preferences/ existing roster. I think its definitely a possibility especially with a lot of teams high on Jackson who likely will be there at #3. Lakers pick is a bit of a gamble with the George rumors tho and 76ers project to be much improved by 2019 so its questionable how much value there really is there.

Celtics as is don't have the cap space to sign a guy like Hayward

celtics blog

and will likely need to move a guy like Bradley to do so as well as make a few smaller moves. For this reason its highly unlikely Celtics add both Hayward and Butler (its likely an either or) especially when what they really need is an upgrade at center/ pf position with a better rebounder. I think ideal situation for Celtics would be to keep Fultz, move Bradley for a big man (has to be relatively low salary which makes it tough) to clear cap space to sign Hayward and some smaller moves to bolster their bench.

Trading for Butler however since he'd make only 17.5 mill compared to Hayward who would start at 30.6 mill would give Celtics more cap flexibility where they could add a better more established big man. I think investigating what Horford's value is wouldn't be a bad idea either (I think they should keep IT longterm) since although skilled on both ends he is on wrong side of 30, due a lot of money, a poor rebounder for his position and not the biggest body down low (Lebron is basically his size and much more athletic which is why he is killing them) .

20 May 2017 12:50:58
I see what you're saying but of the moves you suggested gets them past the cavs. Mark my words danny ainge is a greedy guy. The celtics are going to add hayward and butler. As far as the center upgrade. The can aquire robin lopez in that jimmy butler trade. Even if the can't keep guys like Bradley or crowder they're going to do what they need to do to get past the cavs. Keeping fultz does not do that.

20 May 2017 16:16:23
DA is not a greedy guy, he's a smart guy. Just because Brooklyn got the short end of the deal doesn't mean Danny was greedy, it meant that King and Prokhorov were the not so smart guys. This is a business and at the time the nets thought they had won the lottery, but in reality Boston won the lottery.

A trade of Horford would be a dumb idea, he's not the problem. That would only hinder the process in which they are on. Although it may seem like Hayward has the lead up to this point of becoming a Celtic I wouldn't look at it that way.

In what Jaws said, I mentioned that last week or the week before that trading for Butler made the most sense because of his 17.5 salary for 2 years gives them the flexibility to add another player of size that will shut down the lane. And R Lopez could be somewhat of that presence if they wanted to go that way. But Lopez is not a dominant rebounder, nor is he one for steals.

Trading picks with Orlando makes some sense as they could get the #6 pick in return and also get Vucevic, as it was known midway through the season he could be had. Use that #6pick, 18 Boston 1st pick along with Crowder to acquire Butler.

TRADE IT while his value is high. IT for Bledsoe would be my choice.

Bledsoe/ Rozier
Bledsoe/ Rozier/ Smart?

20 May 2017 16:59:42
Bledsoe/ Rozier
Bledsoe/ Rozier/ Smart?

19 May 2017 17:30:38

Thunder get Blake Griffin (3yr 80m) and JJ Redick (2yr 32m)

Clippers get Paul George, Thad Young, Doug McDermott, and #47 pick (via Pacers)

Pacers get Victor Oladipo, Enes Kanter, and Brice Johnson.

19 May 2017 18:51:35
Gotta add couple picks to pacers.

19 May 2017 19:13:51
Reddick isn't going to okc for that little, especially years. And Blake will want and get a max deal. Even with Westbrook there, okc is faaaar from a destination, guys aren't taking less to go there.

19 May 2017 21:21:11
Pacers could get a better offer than that for George from most teams in the league. Clippers and Thunder are two teams extremely short on movable assets outside of their core. Both would be hard pressed to add talents of this caliber and will likely have to settle with smaller deals. Clippers could luck out and get Melo since Jackson has ruined his value so much but that is probably the best they can hope for.

19 May 2017 21:23:52
As much as i would love this for the clippers. Highly unlikely. Sign and trades rarely happen in the new cba and even so rarely happen with players involved. I don't think its actually even possible to have multiple sign and trade players involved in the same trade.

19 May 2017 07:22:21
Eric Bledose is a very solid pg signed reasonably for 2 more years that can play very good defense and be a second scoring option on a playoff team. Phx should shop him for younger talent after he is coming off a good, healthy season (he missed only one game before being benched at end of season to allow Suns to tank)

Which of these Eric Bledsoe trades do you think is most reasonable?

1. Bledsoe + #32 to Bulls for #16
Bledsoe would give Bulls a starting caliber pg on a reasonable contract to pair with Butler and create a defensive duo. Bulls could still sign someone like Galo to be a stretch 4. Phx add a younger piece with pick

2. Bledsoe + Warren for Dallas #9
Dallas makes a move that puts them in playoff contention with strong starting pg as well as a young wing in Warren who can score off the bench. Phx get another lotto pick. Can get Tatum and Smith/ Ntilikina to add to young core

3. Bledsoe + #32 to Denver for #13 pick
A lot of potential moves Nuggets could make for Bledsoe but he'd give them a true starting caliber pg that would be deadly combo with Jokic that could push them into playoffs. Phx get another lotto pick to add young talent that will help in the future.

4. Bledsoe to Detroit for #12, Jackson
Jackson looked bad returning from injury and is due a lot of money. They upgrade at pg while saving money with Bledsoe. Phx takes Jacksons bad deal and gets a lotto pick too. Phx would probably try to make a move for Stanley Johnson too who seems under-utilized.

5. Bledose to Indy for #18 pick
indy already has Teague but he would cost double Bledsoe's salary to resign. The money saved could be used to bring in more help via FA and help Pacers build a more formidable team to make a last stand to keep George.

19 May 2017 10:07:21
I think the Denver deal is the best here and could potentially get them into the playoffs while giving the suns a decent pick in return.

19 May 2017 14:39:08
OK. how about :
Bledsoe, #32 pick this year. and Miami's 2018 1st. to Orlando for #6 and some filler.

19 May 2017 19:48:23
I like the Denver move. It works for both sides, and the value both get are great. I don't know if 16 or 18 are good enough picks for me to move Bledsoe straight up. he's not perfect, but I'm not sure if you're getting someone better than him there, even in this draft.

If I'm Dallas, I have to start thinking about getting some youth in there. Dirk only has a year or two left, and while I'm all about giving him a last hurrah, you also have to think about the future when you can. They need to bring in a kid to build their next generation. The Detroit trade is interesting, as they have plenty of cap space to bring Jackson in to just sit the bench if they wanted.

#12 is a very enticing return for that, but I don't do it just because of how bad he seems to be for the culture of his teams. I don't want a guy like that infecting my young kids.

17 May 2017 21:34:33

Lakers get Paul George and Thad Young

Pacers get D'Angelo Russell, Julius Randle, Luol Deng, and #28 pick.

17 May 2017 23:24:02
Lakers pg13 extension

Pacers top 3 pick Randle Deng.

17 May 2017 23:27:52
We only trade PG13 for the 2nd pick.
Otherwise we rather trade him to the Celtics for Jerebko than accepting this trade.

17 May 2017 23:45:47
Don't think that is enough for George alone, let alone George and Young. Swap Clarkson for Deng and I think you get closer but probably still aren't quite there.

18 May 2017 03:54:12
Nope Deng stays or no deal pacers lose him for nothing when's he's a FA.

17 May 2017 05:45:04
Spurs - Thad, GR3, and 2017 1st

Pacers - Aldridge and Mills (s&t)

Spurs draft - Patton and Lydon

- Spurs sign CP3 with them moving LA, Mills will be expendable then w Murray and Parker. Thad is a versatile forward who can be matched up w Draymond or any other stretch 4

- Pacers get PG help which is all that matters right now

CP3 - Parker
Green - Simmons
Kawhi - GR3
Thad - Lee
Gasol - Patton

Mills - Young
Ellis - Stephenson
PG - Miles
Aldridge - Allen
Turner - Jefferson

17 May 2017 06:31:37
I mean Pacers aren't giving up that much for Aldridge so I think they'd do it but I'm not sure he is enough to keep George.

Spurs need to make changes and re-tool since even with Kawhi the team as currently built simply doesn't match up well against Golden State. I think this is a solid return, not fantastic but solid.

17 May 2017 13:07:45
I like this for the pacers.
No idea wh San Antonio would do this.

But i'm a pacers fan, so :-) :-)

17 May 2017 13:54:40
If I'm the Pacers, I do that in a heartbeat. I think Aldridge has proven he's not a superstar, but he's still a very productive player. You match him with George and Turner, and you have one of the top frontcourts in the league.

14 May 2017 23:59:43
Lakers PG13 Lopez extension

Pacers Top 3 pick Randle Deng

Nets Clarkson Mozgof Hou pick

Nance Jr

15 May 2017 02:19:13
I think it'll take more than the pick and Randle to get George especially if they want to include Deng's large contract too.

Nets would be smart to get whatever they can for Lopez's expiring contract. Clarkson is a youngish piece and the Houston first helps to stomach Mozgov's large contract so I don't think its a bad return.

Lopez would be a decent center for Lakers to get and being from Cali gives them an advantage to resign him. Lopez is a great offensive force with 3pt range and solid post up game while not a terrible defender/ rim protector. Where he lacks is rebounding.

15 May 2017 03:33:48
So lakers dump horrible contracts and still get the most valuable pieces in both deals? Please get real.

13 May 2017 19:17:07
The Cavs get Turner, Ellis, and Jeffereson

The Pacers get Love, Felder, and the Cavs lottery protected 21 1st

The Cavs end up with a young center who fits perfectly with what the Cavs want out of a big man and his ability to shoot let's Tristan play pf without having to worry about clogging the lane. If the Cavs let Korver walk, Monta can take his minutes and be a solid scoring threat. Jefferson probably isn't in the rotation, but would be a quality guy to have in case of injuries. The Cavs could also look to move Jefferson and Ellis to save money.

The Pacers get a second star to convince George to stay. Love wouldn't have to play on the outside as much as he does in Cleveland and would get more touches. He would probably end up with production closer to what we saw in Minnesota. They also have enough assets to make some smaller moves to improve the team. Turner is a huge loss, but if it helps them keep George it's worth it. I think the Pacers would give up the other two guys for capspace if someone would take them.

13 May 2017 23:21:05
Love would be good in Indy especially with a bigger role however I still don't think he alone is enough to convince George to stay since I don't think he turns them into a contender. I think Indy would be better off keeping Turner since he is on a cheap rookie deal and a solid two-way contributor that is young enough to build around if George does leave. They should try and free up cap space (move Ellis and Jefferson) to go after a top FA like Hayward (all indy really has going for them is that Hayward is from Indiana) .

Ultimately, I think Indy's wisest move would be to deal George away to the highest bidder since I don't think its likely he resigns and I don't think they have enough pieces to build an attractive team around him.

14 May 2017 01:48:31
It would be a big risk for sure Jaw, but they seem committed to trying to keep George. I think adding Love along with a few smaller moves could get them to the 2nd round of the plays and possibly the ecfs if they can avoid the Cavs in the 2nd round.

13 May 2017 17:40:44

Pacers trade Thaddeus Young, Monta Ellis, and 1st round pick to the Knicks for Carmelo Anthony

Pacers trade Al Jefferson for 2nd round pick

Pacers resign Jeff Teague (4yr/ 80mill)

Pacers resign CJ Miles (4yr/ 36mill)

Pacers Lineup:
PG: Jeff Teague, Lance Stephenson
SG: CJ Miles, (FA)
SF: Paul George, GRIII, Georges Niang
PF: Carmelo Anthony, Lavoy Allen
C: Myles Turner, Kevin Seraphin.

13 May 2017 23:39:09
Can't imagine Melo wanting to go to Indiana. Other than that its a solid trade for both sides although not sure it would be enough to get George to stay. I also think Pacers would find trouble having a team take Jeffersons salary and give them a 2nd without giving back any contracts.

11 May 2017 00:10:58
End the Process and enter P.George sweepstake

76ers trade Simmons, Okafor, Henderson, 4th pick
Pacers trade George, Jefferson, Miles

- sign Philly native Lowry, Milsap and vet defensive SF Sefolosha (Tucker, Barnes....)
- Lowry and Milsap will get their last big contracts while being a contender for years to come (beside 2 franchise caliber player George/Embiid = best signing arguments)
- Embiid already plays like an all-star, with the addition of George, Lowry and Milsap (and Jefferson, Miles...) to the rest of last years' 76ers (Covington, Saric, McConnell, Holmes, Luwawu, Anderson)

- resign Indiana native Teague to 4y contract to be the mentor for future backcourt
- use 4th pick to get future PG or SG (Ball, Monk, Fox, Smith)
- let Simmons, Miles, Okafor and 4th pick run the show next season and secure another lottery pick in 2018(PG/SG) while developing talents

11 May 2017 03:25:07
I think it would be foolish for 76ers to deal Simmons before seeing him play in the NBA. That team would be pretty good but George could always leave if they underperform one year and signing Lowry and Millsap to 4 yrs starting at 30+ mill per year is a tough pill to swallow in the later years of those deals when Embiid will be that much better. It's a big risk I'm not sure is worth taking especially since they have something nice in the works. If they get Lakers pick it obviously becomes more attractive since they have more pieces to play with but overall not a fan of this shift.

If I'm Pacers I'd be quite satisfied with that return.

11 May 2017 19:18:35
I hate this. trust the process.

10 May 2017 21:22:14

Spurs get Thad Young, Kevin Seraphin, #18 pick, and a future 2nd
-Save money to chase a free agent and move up in draft

Pacers get Lamarcus Aldridge and #29 pick.

10 May 2017 21:53:08
I'm on the fence. It's pretty good, but I feel like the Spurs should a little more. How about Indy throws in Robinson and the Spurs put in Forbes or their second.

11 May 2017 09:10:41
i would take this in a second as a pacersfan.

10 May 2017 15:20:04
miami heats offseason moves
get rid of boshs contract, let babbitt walk and waive mcroberts
re sign waiters, jj, reed, ellington
draft day trade
heat : pg13, joe young
pacers : dragic, richardson, t johnson, #14 pick
sign chris paul, terrence jones, briante weber, and tony allen
chris paul/weber/young

10 May 2017 02:48:18
Okc gets Miles, young, and George

Indianapolis gets Sabonis, Olidipo, Abrines, Adams, 2022 1st, and 2 future 2nds

10 May 2017 07:27:14
I don't think Indy is getting enough. Oladipo and Adams are two good, young, starting caliber players but neither projects to be a superstar, team leading talent and their contracts make it prohibitive for Indy to add additional talent. If I were Indy I'd prefer a package from the Lakers or Celtics which would likely include a top draft pick in this years draft who has superstar potential.

10 May 2017 09:38:37
I like Sabonis, but i believe we can get a better deal for PG13.

10 May 2017 14:40:57
Looking at it now I agree with both of you. Wishful thinking on my part. George and Westbrook together would be interesting.

12 May 2017 04:02:37
I think you have to add kanter in there too but also what is the thunder going to about their bench.

12 May 2017 04:03:02
and George would have to commit to signing long term with the thunder.

09 May 2017 20:23:08
If LAL keep pick this year:

LAL: P George, A Afflalo (waive), A Tolliver (waive)

IND: D Russell, J Randle, '17 pick (top 3), 2021 1st (top 10 protected)

SAC: L Deng, J Clarkson, '17 1st (via HOU), & future 2nd

Free Agency:
Sign K Lowry 4 yrs $100M
Sign Mason Plumlee 4 yrs $60M
Still have about $10M available in cap space


09 May 2017 23:29:01
Russell, Randle, Clarkson, and 3 first round picks (one which is guranteed top 3 this year) is a huge price to pay for george and dumping dengs contract. don't get me wrong, george is a star player, but seems like a mortgage of an entire future for 1 player.

10 May 2017 01:28:51
I agree that price for George is definitely on the high end but getting George would potentially allow them to attract other top talent in FA and really build something. "The first domino" so to speak. I wouldn't go for Lowry and Plumlee tho, I'd probably wait until 2018 offseason when Westbrook (from Cali), Cousins and others will potentially be FA.

That's obviously great value for Pacers on George. If I were them I wouldn't even mind taking on Mozgov's contract for that return since they aren't going to be major players in FA for awhile.

Similarly to Pacers if I were Kings taking on Deng's contract isn't that bad especially when they'd get back a first, 2nd and a solid player in Clarkson.

10 May 2017 01:31:45
That is a lot to give up, but it seems realistic. In the second trade they could probably pull Clarkson out. I think he would be good as a combo guard coming off the bench or swap out Randle for Clarkson in the first trade.

10 May 2017 03:47:52
No deal from lakers.

10 May 2017 04:03:45
It's George and Lowry who could potentially attract more stars if cap space is available.

10 May 2017 04:06:55
One of those 1sts is late, and likely the 2021 will be too.
So a top 3 pick, Russell, Randle (who will get more money after next season) and Clarkson are nice young players, but I'd be happy flipping them for 2 all stars and dumping a bad contract.

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