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22 Jun 2017 07:35:20
Dallas Mavericks get Paul George, Ed Davis, 15th pick

Indiana Pacers get Seth Curry, Maurice Harkless, Meyers Leonard, 9th pick, 20th pick

Portland Trail Blazers get Wesley Matthews

Minnesota Timberwolves get Dwight Powell, Devin Harris, 15th pick

Dallas Mavericks get Ricky Rubio

22 Jun 2017 08:09:06
You must be a mavs. nevermind.

22 Jun 2017 08:52:29
that's funny right there.

22 Jun 2017 02:40:32

Pacers trade Paul George
Pacers get Kristaps Porzingis

Knicks trade Kristaps Porzingis and 8th pick
Knicks get 3rd pick and Thaddeus Young

Celtics trade 3rd pick
Celtics get Paul George and 8th pick.

22 Jun 2017 05:16:39
C's are not going to get George and 8 for 3.

22 Jun 2017 00:19:21

Pacers trade Paul George
Pacers get Paul Millisap (S&T) and Kris Middleton

Bucks trade Greg Monroe, Kris Middleton
Bucks get Paul George

Hawks trade Paul Millisap (S&T)
Hawks get Greg Monroe.

22 Jun 2017 06:40:25
Bucks would have to give up something else to the pacers that's no enough for pg13 my Parker or something else like bragdon. Plus they don't need millisap his 32 and if they are losing pg13 they need to rebuild. And that doesn't start by maxing out a 32 year undersized PF who is one bad injury away from he careers being over.

22 Jun 2017 00:13:19

Pacers trade Paul George and 18th pick
Pacers get Kristaps Porzingis

Knicks trade Kristaps Porzingis and Joakim Noah
Knicks get Kevin Love, 18th pick, and future first round pick (Cavs)

Cavs trade Kevin Love and future first round pick
Cavs get Paul George, Joakim Noah.

22 Jun 2017 06:04:56
Cavs can't absorb addition of Noah's contract.

21 Jun 2017 22:08:47
Lakers - Pacers - Thunder

Lakers gets:

Pacers gets:
21st pick (Thunder)
Future 2nd (Lakers)
Future 2nd (Lakers)

Thunder gets:
27th pick (Celtics via Lakers)
28th pick (Rockets via Lakers)

Lakers gets George as a star and have his bird rights next year.

Pacers gets a better value by getting the Thunder pick and two 2nds than the 27th and 28th Lakers offered earlier.

Thunder move back in the draft and gets some cap relief by moving Singler.

21 Jun 2017 22:53:25
Stop it. Pay for the price or wait bbq the yr.

21 Jun 2017 21:25:02
Spurs trade Aldridge, Green
Spurs get George

Hornets trade 11th, Zeller, Lamb, Sessions(non-guaranteed)
Hornets get Aldridge, Green

Pacers trade George
Pacers get 11th, Zeller, Lamb, Sessions

- sign CP3
- resign Gasol (2y), Ginobili(1y), Simmons(4y, lower starting salary), Dedmon(4y, lower starting salary), Lee(2y)
- let Mills walk (too high luxury tax)
- Spurs has 3 very big reasons for George to stay in FA 2018: Kawhi Leonard, CP3 and Greg Popovich !!!

- sign vet FA at PG and SF
- Hornets add two playoff experienced veterans who still have some years left in their tank
- Walker and Batum hitting their prime (MKG and Kaminsky maybe also this season)
- roll the dice with adding Aldrige, Green (and Howard)

- rebuild
- add 2 younger players in Zeller and Lamb + 11th pick for George

21 Jun 2017 22:33:22
That package is just ridiculous for PG13. Zeller and Lamb are no longer young, and neither is overly talented. Effectively they're getting the 11th pick for George, which is a no go.

22 Jun 2017 02:01:10
I actually like that move for all teams. Hornets are in an awkward place where they aren't that good or that young and don't think this trade puts them over the top so they'd probably be least likely to do it but I think that lineup would be fun to watch (albeit for two years when Kemba, Aldridge and Howard would be FA) and I'm not crazy about the fit of the talent at #11 (mostly bigs) .

I disagree with Triangle O. I think that is a very solid package for George and only way Pacers beat that in my eyes is if Lakers cave-in and include #2 pick which they've been reluctant to do thus far. Zeller and Lamb at 25 are plenty young enough to be a part of the Pacers rebuilding plans for the forseeable future and there is still hope they put it all together since both are talented ex-lotto picks.

Spurs are obviously the true winners of the trade. If they could add George and still have the cap space to sign CP3 (if not they should target George Hill) that would be a devastating team. George and Kawhi on the wings would be a scary two-way duo on the wing that I think would enable them to compete with Warriors. Paul would be the perfect fit with Pop and a guy that others would want to play for so I could see veterans taking a pay cut to help fill out that teams depth and George willing to stay there long term as he'd have a running mate in Kawhi (ironically they could've been teammates in Indy but he was traded to Spurs for Hill) and a model franchise that is great at finding and developing talent.

21 Jun 2017 20:50:51
Clippers Get: George
Clippers Give: Jordan

Wolves Get: Jordan
Wolves Give: Aldrich/Hill/#7

Pacers Get: Aldrich/Hill/#7
Pacers Give: George

21 Jun 2017 22:42:59
I think Pacers will want one young player out of the deal, not two bad contracts attached to vets. They may almost just want to second pick without either Hill or Aldrich being included.

21 Jun 2017 23:08:40
Pacers fans will laugh at u.

21 Jun 2017 23:42:30
Why would Wolves want Jordan?

21 Jun 2017 17:26:43
LA Lakers crazy Offseason

•Trade: Lakers-Pacers-Suns-Jazz

-LAKERS get Paul George, #4 pick (via PHO), #52 pick (via PHO), and a 2018 2nd (via IND)
-PACERS get Dante Exum, Jared Dudley, #27 and #28 picks (via LAL), and Miami 2018 1st (via PHO)
-SUNS get #2 pick (via LAL), Luol Deng, and Derrick Favors
-JAZZ get Eric Bledsoe

•Trade: Lakers-Celtics-Knicks

-LAKERS get Avery Bradley
-CELTICS get Kristaps Porzingis
-KNICKS get Julius Randle, #3 pick, Boston 2018 1st, Lakers 2018 1st (or Kings 2019 1st via BOS), and a 2019 2nd (via BOS)

•Draft De'Aaron Fox

•Free Agency:
-Re-sign Nick Young 1yr 13m
-Sign Terrence Jones 1yr 5m

PG: Fox, Clarkson, Nwaba
SG: Bradley, Young
SF: George, Ingram, Brewer
PF: Nance, Jones
C: Lopez, Zubac, Black

Then they still should have cap room for another all star in 2018.

21 Jun 2017 20:18:34
Don't think that the Lakers will be able to get back the #4 pick along with George while giving up the #2 and off loading Deng.

21 Jun 2017 22:30:56
Seems very one sided towards the Lakers for both trades. The first one you get George by and the number 4 pick by giving up your current 3 1st round picks. And in the second one you get Bradley but only give up Randell and Boston looses all of the assets that they have built up over the years, if the Lakers through in some of their own picks I would be less suspect of the trade but I would still rather have Bradley, now especially since we won't be draft in Fultz.

21 Jun 2017 14:08:25

POR- Paul George
IND- Allen Crabb, Noah Vonleh #16, #20

To me the Blazers have a good shot to offer the best package to IND for PG13, even if it's only for 1 year.

POR- Carmelo Anthony
NYK- Evan Turner, Ed Davis, #26

C- Jusuf Nurkic
PF- Carmelo Anthony
SF- Paul George
SG- CJ McCollum
PG- Damien Lillard

21 Jun 2017 17:45:46
Garbage return for pavers and knicks.

21 Jun 2017 17:56:34
George is walking and most likely won't commit to anyone other than the Lakers. At this point that's what they can expect in return.

That's a trade close to what the Knicks can expect for Melo. Maybe they can get an expiring rather than Turner, but that's about it.

21 Jun 2017 21:04:55
a non-winner and a one year rental to Portland. no way that gets past Golden State next year, maybe get them to 2nd round of playoffs, then several steps backward towards a legit build upward.

21 Jun 2017 06:30:30

PG13 and Young


Deng, Brewer, Randle, #2 pick

Pacers go full tank.
Yes the Lakers give up Ball but next year they will have almost 0 cap responsibilities so they can add LBJ and a third all-star. Also this deal will allow the lakers to go after Milsap now.

21 Jun 2017 07:15:38
Not a fan of the rushed way Lakers have approached things thus far. In general I think its an awful idea to give up valuable assets now to clear cap space that you speculate you will use a year from now. A lot can happen in a year, I think Lakers would've been better off sitting tight and moving Deng and Mozgov next offseason when they'd be easier to move with 1 less year on their contract and Lakers would have a better sense of which FA they could realistically get/ are interested.

Additionally, I think a trade for George should've been the first domino to fall if any. This is an awful lot to give up for the Lakers but I think they've showed their hand a little early with the Nets trade and the price for George probably has gone up. If they want to stay true to their strategy thus far they should aim for maximum cap space for next year. Thus take out Brewer (expiring contract) and Randle (also expiring but has Bird rights and low cap hold which could be valuable in a S&T allowing for them to get someone over the cap) and put in Clarkson instead and not receive Thaddeus Young (he has a player option for next year and although its relatively cheap I'd want to keep options open if I'm Lakers.

I don't like it but given the hole the Lakers have dug themselves if I had to give up #2 in a deal for George I'd do:

PG13 for Deng, Clarkson and #2.

21 Jun 2017 16:18:00
I don't see any reason to give the pacers the number two pick. Pacers are desperate now. Let George come to la naturally unless you can get him for randel and the two late firsts.

21 Jun 2017 16:56:37
If you don't give up #2 or ingram you can't include deng. After trading d-lo everyone knows they want pg now.
Worst case scenario is now that Pg gets traded anywhere else and Stay there. So you give up young talents for nothing. It's too late now to speculate. They have to go all in.
After all. The deal with the Nets was awful if pg doesn't come.

21 Jun 2017 19:36:51
Yeah, I completely disagree with the lakers fans that don't want to give up anything for George. You should be scared that he goes somewhere else (Boston, Cleveland), goes to the finals, and stays there. There absolutely should be a sense of urgency on the lakers side. And the pacers have plenty of leverage, there are at least 7-10 teams that would trade for George.

21 Jun 2017 04:31:32
Lakers 2017

Lakers Paul George

Pacers Randle or Clarkson 27th and 28th pick

21 Jun 2017 06:22:58
Lakers have already reportedly offered that. Pacers allegedly plan to make a move before the draft Thursday night so they are probably just waiting for better offers to come in. They'll probably just take the best offer they have and at the moment that is the only one public.

21 Jun 2017 06:43:09
I feel like if that's the going rate for George, I'd offer 20, 26, Crabbe and Aminu if I'm Portland. That's a better deal than what LA is offering. Even if George walks, Portland gets cap relief, and they don't give up much assets.

21 Jun 2017 07:54:06
Ya that offer is definitely beatable and Blazers don't have much to lose with that offer since they'd have to likely part with one of those picks to move Crabbe's contract anyway. I think Lakers could beef it up to Randle, Clarkson and at least one of the picks if pushed hard enough.

21 Jun 2017 03:58:47

Pacers trade Paul George and Al Jefferson to the Hawks for Paul Millisap (S&T), Tim Hardaway Jr., and 1st round pick

Pacers resign Jeff Teague (4yr/ 80mill)

Pacers sign Rudy Gay (2yr/ 36mill)

Pacers draft Bam Adebayo, OG Anunoby, and Frank Mason

Pacers Lineup:

PG: Jeff Teague, Lance Stephenson, Frank Mason
SG: Tim Hardaway Jr., Monta Ellis, Joe Young
SF: Rudy Gay, Glenn Robinson, OG Anunoby
PF: Paul Millisap. Thaddeus Young, Georges Niang
C: Myles Turner, Bam Adebayo, Lavoy Allen.

21 Jun 2017 05:53:44
Hawks just gave Dwight Howard away for essentially nothing, not sure what they'd want a year of George for. They'd be better off keeping THJ and trying to rebuild which after debating blowing it up the past two years looks like the direction Hawks are finally going to go.

21 Jun 2017 00:49:06
Trades to happen soon

George and Jefferson for 27,28, Randle


#3, whatever pick they get from Sixers, Brown for Butler
Sign Hayward
IT-Bradley-Haywayd-Butler-Horford (small ball)

76ers get Porzingis and Noah
Knicks get Korkmaz, Okafor, whatever pick they keep from Celtics deal, 2018 Sixers first, and 2 2nd rounders this year


21 Jun 2017 02:49:39
The sixers could never get porzingis for that package. But Embiid, Porzingis, Simmons, Reddick, Fultz sure looks like a nice starting 5.

21 Jun 2017 03:04:48
That trade for Porzingis is a joke.

20 Jun 2017 22:07:28
4 way trade Suns Cavs Bulls Pacers

Cavs receive

Suns receive

Pacers receive
2017 #4 pick from Suns
2021 1st round pick from Cleveland

Bulls Receive
Al Jefferson
2018 first round pick (miami) from suns
2018 2nd round pick (Toronto) from Suns
2019 2nd round pick (LA of Minn, Least fav) from Cleveland
2020 2nd round pick (Portland) from Cleveland

21 Jun 2017 00:39:02
PHX Mgt hears this. laughs a lot. recovers in time to hang up. No way Suns do a deal like this. period.

21 Jun 2017 01:54:50
Irving must be in trade. Love value is declining fast.

21 Jun 2017 02:34:23
Phxfan, it's been reported that they've thought about moving the 4 for Love. It gives them a cheap star that they control for 3 years.

21 Jun 2017 08:27:30
Cheap is right, Love isn't what he used to be! Everyone talks about Bledsoe being injury prone, why not bring up the fact that Love is injury prone, Suns dnt need that and I hope they're not wanting to trade for him!

20 Jun 2017 20:19:08
Pacers Deng Randle 28th pick

Lakers George

20 Jun 2017 20:35:36
Deng, DLo, 28 and a 2nd.

20 Jun 2017 20:53:35
No deal Russell stays pacers get Randle or no deal added the future 2nd round is fine remember lakers can just wait 1 year.

20 Jun 2017 21:17:17
If the price is that low another team will make a deal. No way will the Pacers do that. Randle basically pays for someone taking on Dengs contract. So that means they get the 28th for George. The Pacers have no reason to appease the Lakers or George.

20 Jun 2017 21:21:36
they have to give up russell if they want george via trade. Pacers will get other suitors and if he ends up on a team like Cleveland or Boston, they could make title run and convince him to stay long term for more titles. And Lakers know that, that's why they'll trade anything. If they're going to bank on him coming in a year, why offer anything? If they're going to offer a trade, it'll have to be a trade that's close to what other teams will offer.

20 Jun 2017 21:21:47
Indy would rather just let him walk than take that garbage deal. Deng has negative value, randle has minimal value (and will likely get overpaid next year) .

The lakers can TRY to wait, but how confident are you that he'll sign with the lakers? If he gets traded to Boston, Cleveland, or the Clippers, I don't see any way he goes to the lakers. Indy has much more leverage than laker fans like to think.

20 Jun 2017 22:06:43
Pacers will never take deng and randle as return. Next year they have to pay Randle 20+ million. With deng they pay 40. It's the worst core of the nba. Then they prefer waiting or sending pg for a second rounder to the cavs.

21 Jun 2017 00:24:42
Russell was just traded to the Nets.

20 Jun 2017 19:47:31

Denver gives faried, hernangomez, Beasley, and either mudiay or this year's lottery pick
Denver gets klove

Cleveland gives love and gets PG

Indiana gives PG
Indiana gets faried, hernangomez, Beasley, and mudiay or 1st rounder

21 Jun 2017 18:46:30
Denver shouldn't have to give up that much to get love. they want this trade, maybe Fareid, First and Muiday? Nothing more.

20 Jun 2017 17:39:33
Wizards trade Porter(s&t), Morris, Mahinmi, Smith
Wizards get George, Anthony, 58th pick Knicks

Knicks trade Porzingis, Anthony, 58th pick
Knicks get 7th pick Wolves, Rubio, Porter, Smith

Pacers trade George, Ellis
Pacers get Dieng, Morris

Wolves trade Rubio, Dieng, 7th pick
Wolves get Porzingis, Mahinmi

- Wizards build big 4, fill up roster mid-level and vet min (e.g. E.Okafor)

- complete rebuild, draft future franchise SG in shooter Monk and Porzingis typ of talent in Markkanen

- let play Turner is natural position PF, Dieng (4y reasonable contract) and Morris (2y low-price contract) gives Indiana more value than leaving George and fast declining Ellis

- let Muhammad walk, sign Rose and Tucker to bring veteran experience to young and elite talented roster

20 Jun 2017 15:09:53

Pacers: Russell, #28 pick, 2018 2nd (via DEN)
Lakers: George, #4
Suns: #2, Deng, 2019 Pacers 2nd

Pacers draft Terrance Ferguson or Donovan Mitchell at 18, Jordan Bell at 28, Frank Mason at 47.

Pacers begin rebuild and hope to land a top pick in 2018 draft to get Micheal Porter or another top prospect.

posted this earlier just fixed it and read that suns are interested as third team.

20 Jun 2017 15:38:58
Not bad, Lakers could then get Fox at 4.

20 Jun 2017 16:56:35
Do you really believe the suns pay 50 million for the difference between Ball and Fox?
I don't!

20 Jun 2017 11:10:22
Now that Griffins gone I feel like Gilberts going to blow it up for whatever reason.
Gilberts Dream Scenario

4 team trade Cavs Bulls Pacers 76ers

Cavs Receive

Bulls receive
2 second rounders (NYK, ATL) this year from the 76ers
2019 first round (76ers) from the 76ers

Pacers Receive
2018 first round pick(LAL) from 76ers
2019 second round (SAC) pick from 76ers
2021 first round pick from Cavs

76ers receive

20 Jun 2017 14:53:48
Rumors have Chauncy Billups as the possible GM. He has mentioned prior, that he thinks Melo would fit nicely on this team. If Billups is hired, look for a Melo deal not too far behind.

20 Jun 2017 16:20:09
Cleveland is about to become a dysfunctional team. Gilbert got his championship title, Blow it up now Dan. First move, trade the dude that has lied to you a few times and is about to do it again.

21 Jun 2017 23:24:29
Sixers are getting hosed in this one. Okafor, Bayless, 2 1's and 3 2's? That's way too much for Irving. We'll just play with what we have, thanks.

20 Jun 2017 08:43:13

DET : D.Russell + L.Deng + IND 1st

LAL : P.George

IND : 12th pick + S.Johnson + T.Mozgov + R.Jackson

20 Jun 2017 17:35:43
That's a terrible trade for Indiana. If I'm their GM, I'd rather lose him for nothing next season than take that on.

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