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21 Jun 2018 15:44:44
CHA-TOR-LAL

making room for lebron

CHA gets Lowry and 1st rd pick from TOR (2019)
" Trades Kemba to ORL for 6th pick and Vucevic

TOR gets Batum, Deng, Ingram, and 1st rd pick from LAL (#25), 2019 pick (LAL)
Sign Thomas 3yr/ 45 mil

LAL gets Derozan
Trades Kuzma to IND for Turner and 1st rd pick (#23)
Sign Favors
George Max
Sign Rondo 1yr/ 10 mil
Lebron Max

Lowry/ Monk
Mikal Bridges (#11)/ Lamb/
Porter (#6 via ORL) / MKG
Marvin Williams
Vucevic

Isiah Thomas/ Fred V
Batum/ OG/ Gary Trent Jr (#25 via LAL)
Ingram/ Miles
Ibaka/ Siakam
JVal/ Poetl

Lonzo/ Rondo
Derozan/ Grayson Allen (#23)
George/ Hart
Bron/ Favors
Turner.

21 Jun 2018 17:23:02
Lakers are definitely holding out for news with Leonard or lbj before anything like this would go down. The draft I'm thinking is too soon for either Leonard or lbj situations to be decided.

21 Jun 2018 18:43:02
not that lowry’s and derozan’s value are super high rn. but tor should get more for their two best players than ingram and two really bad contracts, maybe give them hart and j. simmons from orl or even fournier (bad contract but he isn't a terrible player) and swap out batum for williams maybe.

21 Jun 2018 21:40:51
Raps aren't is taking deng, batum contracts.

21 Jun 2018 02:38:42
Pacers-Hornets-Nuggets

Pacers trade Al Jefferson and 23rd pick
Pacers get Kemba Walker

Nuggets trade Kenneth Faried and 14th pick
Nuggets get Al Jefferson and 23rd pick

Hornets trade Kemba Walker
Hornets get 14th pick.

21 Jun 2018 04:56:33
I think walker is worth more than faried and 14.

21 Jun 2018 13:18:44
Faried disappeared.

20 Jun 2018 19:56:09
Pacers-Mavs

Pacers trade Al Jefferson (waive), Bojan Bogdanvic (only 2 mill guaranteed), and 1st round pick to the Mavs for Harrison Barnes

Corey Joseph opted into his contract

Pacers sign Aaron Gordon (4yr/ 100mill)

Pacers Lineup:

PG: Collison, Joseph, Sumner
SG: Oladipo, Stephenson, Young
SF: Barnes, Robinson, Poythress
PF: Gordon, Leaf
C: Turner, Sabonis, Ike.

21 Jun 2018 01:18:15
Gordon has no ties to Indy and will not sign there and magic will match it.

19 Jun 2018 06:33:00
Cavs trade tt+unprotected 2021 first rounder

Cavs get pick 34

Cavs trade Jr+pick 34 to Kings for a 2021 second round pick

Cavs trade hill+Minnesota second to pay pacers for pick 50

Trade clarckson+pick 50 for pick 40

Draft night trade

Cavs get Parsons+4+32 (stretch provision) 5/ 9.9m yr

Grizzlies receive Kevin love+ante zizic+cedi Osman


Draft night trade
Cavs receive faried pick 14

Nuggets receive trade exception

Cavs sign Bron 4/ 136m

Cavs sign pg 4/ 132m

Draft keita Bates diop, Trae young, mo bamba


Young
George
James
Bates diop
Bamba

Fill rest of roster with 1yr deals, minimum deals, mle

19 Jun 2018 13:13:18
You can’t trade for a guy and then stretch him, as I have told you before.

19 Jun 2018 14:18:26
Actually reasonable.

18 Jun 2018 04:49:20
Cavs rebuild:

Cavs send: Love
Mem send: Parsons, Pick 4 & 32

Cavs send: Thompson, pick 32
Mavs send: Noel S&T (1+TO 5m/y)

Cavs send: Lebron (Opt in)
Phi send: Bayless (Exp), pick 26, '20 top 10 protected

Cavs send: Smith (Exp)
Cha send: MKG, '20 2nd top 40 protected

Cavs send: Korver
OKC send: Picks 53 & 37

Cavs send: Hill (Exp), Pick 53 & 57
NY send: Noah, pick 9

Cavs send: Clarkson, Zizic
Pacers send: Jefferson (Waive), pick 23

Resign Hood: 50m/4y
Sign McDermott 1+PO 4m/y (Cap Space)
Sign Exum 1+TO 8m/y (MLE)

Draft: 4 Bamba, 8 Young, 9 Porter, 23 C.Hutchison

PG: Young, Exum, Bayless
SG: Hood, Osman, Hutchison
SF: Porter, Parsons
PF: Nance, MKG, McDermott
C: Bamba, Noel, Noah

'19 aim is to tank to keep their 1st (top 5 protected I think). This team is now a non-tax team, has multiple high upside prospects (Bamba, Young, Porter), a couple of wild card prospects (Hood, Exum, Noel) and some rock solid young role players (Nance & Osman).

18 Jun 2018 11:29:02
You think Osman and nance are solid?

17 Jun 2018 16:12:35
Couple of LMA deals

Like my Kawhi post, should the Spurs move Claw for youth, going into rebuild mode may be the best course of action. If so, LMA probably goes as well. Here’s some deals I like for him, let me know which deals, if any, you like.

#1 - To LAC

LMA for Boban, Rivers, pick 13, Thornwell

Clips bring in a front court scorer to put beside Jordan. Harris, LMA, Jordan will Danilo in reserve is a pretty good 3-4-5. Spurs get two expiring deals, a decent prospect, and a late lottery pick.

#2 - To MEM

LMA, Pick 17 for Parsons, Pick 4, Pick 32

If Memphis wants to retool vs. rebuild, they add LMA to Gasol and Conley while also staying in the 1st round. Spurs take on a bad deal, but get an impact player at 4 and another rotation piece at 32.

#3 - To IND

LMA for Thad, Joseph, pick 23

Thad has to opt in for this to happen. If he does though, Spurs get a quality player on an expiring deal, bring a solid backup guard home and add a first. Pacers add to a team that surprised last year, and if Bron does head west, could be a dark horse ECF candidate.

17 Jun 2018 17:22:28
pacers trade seems closest to his value. sure he is coming off an all star season, but will be 33 and owed a lot of money the next 3 yrs.

17 Jun 2018 19:02:15
Pacers are a good team fit, not sure about the deal though.

15 Jun 2018 12:29:41
Pacers-Suns

Pacers trade Al Jefferson (waive) and 1st round pick to the Suns for TJ Warren

Pacers resign Trevor Booker

Cory Joseph and Thaddeus Young pick up their player options

Pacers Lineup:

PG: Collison, Joseph, Sumner
SG: Oladipo, Stephenson, Young
SF: Warren, Bogdanovic, Poythress
PF: Young, Leaf, Booker
C: Turner, Sabonis, Ike.

15 Jun 2018 14:38:06
Sins don't need picks.

15 Jun 2018 15:04:22
Every rebuilding team needs pick.

14 Jun 2018 01:32:36
Update on my earlier trade idea after @rkenne_16 suggestion to find a different team for Hayward

Cavs send: Lebron (opt in)
Receive: Bogdanovic & Jefferson (Both 1m guaranteed), Sabonis, Leaf, Nader, Theis, Picks 27 & 50

Spurs send: Leonard
Receive: Morris, Rosier, Yabusele, Ojeleye, Pick 23, 2x '19 picks (Spurs choice). '20 top 3 protected

Indiana send: Bogdanovic, Jefferson, Sabonis, Leaf, Young, Picks 23 & 50
Receive: Hayward

Celts send: Hayward, Nader, Theis, Morris, Rosier, Yabusele, Ojeleye, Pick 27, 2x '19 picks, '20 Top 3 protected
Receive: Lebron, Leonard, Young

Resign Smart 1+1Po 12m/y
Sign C to vet min (Lopez, Dedmon, Noel)
Sign SF to vet min (Ariza, W.Chandler)

PG: Irving, Young
SG: Brown, Smart
SF: Leonard, Chandler
PF: Lebron, Tatum
C: Horford, Noel

Thoughts?

14 Jun 2018 10:50:18
I really like Sabonis and we don't need Hayward, so Indy says no.

14 Jun 2018 13:36:32
Sorry, but there's no way the Celtics would be able to get these done with the SAC pick and Tatum. Spurs would want one of those (if not both! )

14 Jun 2018 15:59:01
There's a team in the NBA outside of GS that doesn't need an all star wing? That sounds completely insane.

It might be a bit too much for Hayward (though I don't think so), but to say they don't need Hayward is just silly.

13 Jun 2018 04:59:28
Lakers - Pacers
Deng , Ingram , Zubac , 25th pick cavs , 2019 1st
For
Bogdavic(exp) , Turner

11 Jun 2018 19:36:44
If Boston really wants Lebron.

The Pacers get Hayward and Love

The Cavs get Young(exp), Jefferson(exp), Leaf, Rozier, Nader, the 23rd via Indiana, the Pacers 2020, and the Memphis 2019 1st.

Boston gets Lebron, Turner and swap options with the 2019 Pacers 1st

11 Jun 2018 20:06:54
the pacers have no business getting that for turner, expirings, and what would be late 1sts.

11 Jun 2018 20:07:09
Boston would trade kyrie i think.

11 Jun 2018 20:49:55
The Pacers are getting a good deal, but there aren't many decent teams with the cap space to swallow significant amounts of salary. They aren't taking on bad salary, but cap space in general right now is a huge bargaining chip. Love and Hayward are both good players, but both have decreased values.

As for Irving, the relationship between he and Lebron is concerning, but he still has a ton of value if Lebron is around. Heyward doesn't really seem needed on the team unless you're going to just let Lebron be the point. Plus, Irving isn't making enough money to flip his contract for Lebron's. The Celtics would have to add something like Brown/ Tatum and Morris to the deal to make it work. Keeping Brown and Tatum seems like it should be more of priority to the Celtics than keeping Hayward and/ or Irving at this point.

11 Jun 2018 15:24:27
Lakers - Pacers
Luol Deng , Brandon Ingram , 25th pick , 2019 1st , Josh Hart , Ivic Zubac
For
Bojan Bogdanvic (exp) , Myles Turner

11 Jun 2018 16:17:39
I'm getting the feeling that you might just overvalue Turner, a lot. He's not a future all star. Even with Deng's negative contract, this is too much for Turner.

11 Jun 2018 17:39:02
Cannot trade consecutive 1st round picks. The Lakers would have to make this years pick for Indian and trade afterwards and the next pick would have to be 2020.

11 Jun 2018 18:01:19
brandon ingram will have a better career than myles turner.

07 Jun 2018 16:46:06
T-Wolves fire Thibbs and hire a pace and space coach.

T-Wolves send Jimmy Buckets
Lakes Send: K. Kuzma, J Hart, and Cleveland 2019 pick.

I think this genuinely helps the Wolves, as Buckets demands the ball a little too much for the benefit of Towns and Wiggins (who is more efficient with the ball more often rather than less often, like the only player this is true for) . Kuzma offers explosiveness and upside, Hart offers solidness and shooting, and the pick offers cheapness as KAT's deal looms larger.

The Lakers are able to sign PG and Lebron (even if they don't get Lebron this is still a good deal) . Then they do one more deal to wind up their line up.

Lakers Send B. Ingam
Pacers Send Myles Turner.

Pacers do this because of how valuable wings are and the trust in Sabonis. Lakers get shot blocking, shooting, and stay young.

Lakes line up

Lonzo
Jimmy Buckets
Playoff P
Lebron
Myles Turner

This is a great match up against the Warriors. Old vets will sign cheaper that usual for a chance at a ring, so that fills depth.

07 Jun 2018 21:35:16
The wolves just made the playoffs for the first time in 12 years. They will look to add to what they have not trade one of their all stars.

04 Jun 2018 21:01:22
Spurs - Pacers
Aldridge
For
Turner , Bogdanovic (exp) , 22nd pick , Leaf

Pacers sign
Ariza 3yrs 24mil
Redick 2yrs 20mil (come off bench as 6th)
Ed Davis 2yrs 12mil

Collison , Joseph
Oladipo , Reddick
Ariza , Stephenson
Aldridge , Davis
Sabonis , Harrington

04 Jun 2018 22:02:37
Pacers give up too much.

04 Jun 2018 22:27:57
Reddick just made 19 i think for one year, and he is a free agent.

05 Jun 2018 00:08:11
Porzingis for leonard.

06 Jun 2018 16:10:45
i don't think indy needs another slow PF/ C.

30 May 2018 15:37:45
Pacers-Celtics

Pacers trade Myles Turner to the Celtics for Jaylen Brown

Pacers sign Clint Capela

Pacers resign Trevor Booker

Thaddeus Young opts into contract

Pacers Lineup:

PG: Collison, Joseph, Sumner
SG: Brown, Stephenson, Young
SF: Oladipo, Bogdanovic, Poythress
PF: Young, Leaf, Booker
C: Capela, Sabonis, Ike.

30 May 2018 16:36:03
I like Turner, but this isn't worth it for the Celtics. I think they would either want to trade Heyward or Rozier and picks .

30 May 2018 17:04:43
Brown has shown more value than turner so far and the rockets aren't letting capella go.

30 May 2018 17:14:58
DA would only think about this if there were a third team involved to get additional pieces, draft pick/ player. And to be honest I'm not sure Ainge would want Turner. I think he would want KAT if he has to trade Brown.

30 May 2018 17:19:35
I don't trade Brown for Turner. Plus, I think there's too much bad blood between Ainge and Indy's GM.

27 May 2018 09:45:58
TOR-IND-OKC

TOR
Out: Lowry, Ibaka, Wright
In: Anthony, Collison, Bogdanovic, 2018 IND pick
- All are expiring contracts next season. Retool.

IND
Out: Young, Collison, Bogdanovic, 2018 1st rd pick
In: Lowry, Ibaka
- Lineup will be Lowry/Oladipo/sign FA(Ariza)/Ibaka/Turner

OKC
Out: Melo
In: Young, Wright
-get rid of Melo; trade for right pieces; resign George, Grant

27 May 2018 12:54:00
They would name the Executive of the Year Award after Sam Presti if he could pull that off.

28 May 2018 03:21:49
That belongs to Danny Ainge. Haha.

25 May 2018 23:29:10
Pacers-Blazers

Pacers trade Myles Turner and Al Jefferson (waive) to the Blazers for CJ McCollum

Pacers sign Clint Capela

Pacers resign Trevor Booker

Pacers Lineup:

PG: Collison, Joseph, Sumner
SG: McCollum, Stephenson, Young
SF: Oladipo, Bogdanovic
PF: Young, Leaf, Booker
C: Capela, Sabonis, Ike.

26 May 2018 02:40:10
Capela staying in Houston.

26 May 2018 18:50:14
I would say 90% yes Shizzee, but there is the chance that he may have to be signed and dealt if it would help the Rockets land James.

24 May 2018 02:53:10
Pacers trade - Collison (if opts in) and 2018 1st

Hawks trade - Schroder

Hawks draft
3 - Jaren Jackson
19 - Zhaire Smith
23 - Anfenree Simmons
30 - Mortiz Wagner

Collison/Simmons
Bazemore/Smith
Prince/Bembry
Collins/Wagner
Jackson/Dedmon

24 May 2018 04:17:33
Collison-least turnovers in the league per usage rate v. s. Schroeder-many turnovers, possible jail time during season. Tough call. Or is it?

23 May 2018 02:58:32
The Celtics get Turner

The Pacers get Rozier, the 27th pick and the Memphis 2019 1st

23 May 2018 05:19:27
maybe make it the clippers pick instead.

23 May 2018 07:52:44
I rather have the Memphis pick.

This is a trade we could do before the trade deadline, but i think we can get a better offer for Turner. There are many good pointguards available and some teams are looking for a bif that can shoot three's (ok not many, but a good percentag) and play defense.

19 May 2018 04:40:49
Once the news came out that there may be tensions between towns and Minnesota, I had to make a hypothetical trade scenario. I see towns being a great fit in Boston. Here's what I propose:

T-wolves trade: Towns, Aldrich
T wolves receive: Brown, Turner, Yabusele, 2019 LAC 1st

Pacers trade: Turner, Young, and Joseph
Pacers receive: Rozier, Maker, Henson, and Morris

Celtics trade: Brown, Rozier, Horford, Yabusele, Morris, 2019 LAC 1st
Celtics receive: Towns, Young, Snell, Joseph, Aldrich (waive)

Bucks trade: Henson, Snell, and Maker
Bucks receive: Horford


What do people think?

19 May 2018 05:04:35
Minnesota would need that Sacramento pick plus maybe the Memphis pick to even listen.

19 May 2018 05:16:14
Horford is like Henson and Maker, A PF that plays Center, Except, Henson is 6'11" and Maker is 7'1", while Horford is 6'9" maybe 6'10". (Oddly enough, Horfords father "Tito Horford" did play for the Bucks at one time) Now, Why would Milwaukee trade two PF/ C, plus a SG to get back One PF/ C? I'm sorry, It just seems like a bad trade for all teams involved.

19 May 2018 05:45:19
@carl006, if Minnesota insists then the pick could be changed to the SAC 2019 pick. However, I don't believe they need both picks if Brown and Turner are included.

@torque hardbar, because Horford is an all star center and way better than both Maker and Henson right now. One of the Bucks biggest problem last year was creating offense in the half court set. Horford would help tremendously in this area because he is one of the few 5's you can actually run an offense through. Also, he is a former player of Bud's so he could be incorporated into the offense seamlessly.

19 May 2018 06:17:28
agree the pick would have to be sac. kat will likely be a top 10 player soon.

19 May 2018 12:21:56
@1088jonesp, I believe Milwaukee would go another direction, and go after D. Jordan from the Clippers. Horford might be an all star, But I don't believe he is the answer for the Buck's. Milwaukee does need to move Henson, Dellavedova, and their contracts! Snell has been a let down as has Bledsoe. Horfords game is more offense, than defense. Bigger Center's always push him around. The Bucks need a Center, that doesn't need the ball, Is a very good rebounder (The Bucks were 30th in the league in rebounding) Can protect the rim, and can get his own shot. I don't think Horford fits that need.

19 May 2018 12:38:41
Torque, while Jordan is clearly the better rebounder, Horford has been the better defender over the past 2 or 3 years. Horford will probably end up in the top 5 for dpoy.

19 May 2018 12:59:43
rkeene, I would still rather have Jordan, than Horford. I can't see Horford in the top 5 for dpoy. I'm sorry. Since Milwaukee has a New coach now, Hard to tell what he is thinking?

19 May 2018 15:16:37
Yeah Horford deserves to be in the top 5 Dpoy.

19 May 2018 16:03:12
@torque hardbar, you said the bucks need a center who can get his own shot and you claim Jordan is the solution for that. That's hilarious. Jordan has to have one of the worst post games I've ever seen. Spacing was a huge issue for the Bucks last year and I think Jordan would only add to this problem. This is why I think Horford is a better fit for the Bucks. He is a great leader who can anchor the team on offensive and defensive. He doesn't need the ball to be effective. He can be a spot up shooter, set off ball screens for his teammates, or make a play off the dribble. He is a very diverse player and he can mend his game to fit any team. I think the Bucks should go sign Ed Davis or some other cheap, efficient rebounder to address their rebounding need.

I also believe Bud is a great coach and he will clean up a lot of the problems that plagued the Bucks last year. I expect a top 4 finish for them this year.

19 May 2018 17:04:56
@1088jonesp, I would go with Jordan, I didn't hear of to many back to back 20 RPG with Horford? Plus, he's to small by todays standards, If Horford is such a great leader, Why was he traded? As far as adding Ed Davis or? for rebounding, Why get 2 players to do the job that one should be doing? I do agree about Budenholzer, Hopefully he can start by moving "Henson, Parker, Dellevedova, Maker, Bledsoe, and J. Terry! " No one knows what D. J. Wilson can do, he spent more time in their "G" league, than on the floor with the Buck's. Milwaukee needs a legit Center, a decent PG (Put Brogdan back there) a decent backup SF, Muhhamad?

Thoughts?

19 May 2018 23:01:20
@torque so why’s Horford still in the playoffs fighting for a championship? Everything you say is just so stupid!

19 May 2018 23:17:47
Why would the celtics trade horford you ask? Well if you had to choose between a soon to be 32 year old and a 22 year old potential MVP then it's a pretty easy choice. The Bucks don't have enough assets to get Towns without decimating the rest of the squad so Horford is a good cheaper option.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on Jordan in Milwaukee. Teams can nullify Jordan's impact by going under all of his screens knowing the fact that neither Bledsoe nor Giannis is an outside threat. Also, Jordan is an overrrated rim protector. He had less than a block a game last year. Horford's outside shooting and playmaking skills could give the Bucks another dimension.

I agree with you in that the Bucks need to get rid of the deadweight. Too much wasted cap in dellavedova and Henson. I don't like Muhammad though. He's a defensive liability and isn't a legit 3pt threat. Bucks need to cut their ties with him.

17 May 2018 17:27:38
ATL - IND - MIL

ATL gets Collison, Snell, Brogdon, Wilson, Pacers first 2019,

IND gets Schroder

MIL gets Bazemore

Atlanta continues tanking, unloads two big contracts and get a 1st. Plus Collison (expiring), Snell to replace Kent, good value at Brogdon and a young PF

Indiana could benefit from Schroder - Oladipo playing together

Milwaukee get a starting SG, which Bud knows really well

17 May 2018 18:35:22
That's an over pay for Bazemoore.

17 May 2018 20:18:48
Then replace Brogdon with Brown maybe?

17 May 2018 20:39:25
Bucks pass bigtime.

17 May 2018 20:58:29
Maybe throw in a bad contract from Milwaukee like Delly or Henson. Maybe, something like Snell, Delly, Wilson and a 2nd?

18 May 2018 05:21:10
Collison led the league for fewest turnovers to usage rate. Bucks and pacers lose.

 
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