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11 Oct 2018 06:46:14
Lakers-Pacers-Wolves

Lakers- Butler, Turner, Jones

Rondo-Jones
Butler-Hart
James-Stephenson
Kuzma-Beasley
Turner-McGee

Pacers- Ball, Patton

Ball-Collison-Joseph
Oladipo-Evans
Bogdanovic-McDermott
Young-Leaf
Sabonis-Oquinn-Patton

Wolves- Ingram, Pope, Zubac, 1st rounder Lakers

Teague-Rose
Wiggins-Pope
Ingram-Deng-Okogie
Gibson-Tolliver
Towns-Dieng-Zubac

11 Oct 2018 07:52:50
The Lakers won’t be moving Ingram and without him it’s hard to make the money work.

05 Oct 2018 19:03:37
Ind-Lac

Indiana- Tobias Harris

Clips- Joseph,Leaf and 1st

Indiana gets another scoring option outside of Oladipo and puts them closer to the top of the east

Clippers get a 1st out of Harris who already turned down an extension and will most likely walk.

05 Oct 2018 19:44:47
Harris wants to try and play for a little better deal. He likes the clippers and wants to stay. I would take this deal if I was the clippers though. Keep or trade a PG to the suns for warren or something. Good trade for the clips.

05 Oct 2018 22:45:52
Clips are already busting at the seams with PG’s, Joseph would be of no interest.

28 Sep 2018 20:54:18
Pacers get - Butler

Wolves get - Bogdanovic Sabonis Daniels Bender and Pacers 1st

Suns get - Joseph and Jones

Collison/Holiday
Oladipo/Evans
Butler/McDermott
Thad/Leaf
Turner/Anigbogu

Teague/Rose
Wiggins/Daniels
Bogdanovic/Okojie
Gibson/Bender
Towns/Dieng

Joesph/Jones/Okobo
Booker/Bridges
Jackson/Ariza
Warren/Anderson
Ayton/Holmes

28 Sep 2018 23:18:42
Meant to add Sabonis as backup center on Timberwolves.

29 Sep 2018 00:42:57
That's a great return for Wolves but Pacers should be hesitant to include Sabonis especially with a chance Butler could leave. I don't know.

28 Sep 2018 20:35:51
Pacers get - Ingram

Lakers get - Turner and 2019 lotto protected 1st

Lakers sign go for KD or Kawhi

Collison
Oladipo
Ingram
Thad
Sabonis

Ball
Hart
KD/Kawhi
Lebron
Turner

29 Sep 2018 13:21:27
Ingram for Turner, interesting proposal. Don't think pacers are going to include their 1st though.

28 Sep 2018 16:42:07
POR-MIN-IND

IND gets Butler

MIN get Evan Turner, Myles Turner, Bogdanovic, Aaron Holiday, IND 2019 1st rd pick,

POR get Dieng and Tyus Jones and 2nd rd pick via MIN


Collison/ Joesph
Oladipo/ Evans
Butler/ McDermott
Thad Young/ TJ Leaf
Sabonis/ Booker


Teague/ Rose
Turner/ Bogdanovic
Wiggins/ / Deng/ Okogie/ George-hunt
Myles Turner/ Gibson
Towns/ Patton

Dame/ Jones
CJ/ Gary Trent
Aminu/ Harkless
Dieng/ Leonard
Nurkic.

28 Sep 2018 18:24:45
Blazers are not a good fit in this scenario. No room for Dieng and his contract is horrible. Turners is less horrible by a season and the blazers have guards of jones value competing behind lillard and cj. No 2nd make it a 1st and it would work. Blazers still would have to waive or trade someone.

28 Sep 2018 20:26:54
Also, too much to give up from the Pacers.

23 Sep 2018 18:22:54
OKC / IND / ATL


Thunder gets Young (PF) and Sabonis from the Pacers

+1 win on the Trade Machine

Hawks gets Adams from the Thunder

+4 wins on the Trade Machine

Pacers gets Plumlee and Dedmon from the Hawks. Pacers gets a future 1st Round Pick from Atlanta and a 2nd Round Pick from Oklahoma City.

-4 wins on the Trade Machine.

23 Sep 2018 18:43:54
I think the pacers should get a little more for taking plumlee.

18 Sep 2018 03:51:37
Jimmy Butler trade Ideas:

1) Heat send: T.Johnson, Richardson, Winslow, 2x2nds
Receive: Butler, Dieng

2) Bucks send: Brogdon, Middleton
Receive: Butler

3) Sixers send: Covington, Chandler, McConnell 1x 2nd
Receive: Butler

4) Rockets send: Gordon, Chriss, Nene, 2x 1st
Receive: Butler

5) Pacers send: Bogdanovic, Joseph, Sabonis 1x 1st, 1x 2nd
Receive: Butler

6) Raptors send: Ibaka, Powell, OG, 1x 2nd
Receive: Butler, Dieng

Thoughts?

18 Sep 2018 12:59:22
I don't think the bucks do this middleton is pretty similar player to butler.

18 Sep 2018 15:36:53
If I'm Indy, I'd probably rather give up Turner than Sabonis. But I like the fit of Butler in Indy.

Butler to Toronto would be a great team.

I think Phili would have to give up more. Probably Saric instead of Chandler. But a big 3 of Embidd, Simmons, and Butler would probably be the favorites in the East to me. Phili should really push for that.

The Bucks trade is fairly even. I think Minny would take the step down in talent for a better chance to resign Middleton. And the Bucks would finally have an elite guy to go with Giannis. They'd be smart to roll the dice on resigning him, considering the inability to get high end talent any other way.

19 Sep 2018 00:44:16
Thanks for the input, I think Butler is leaving before opening night.

19 Sep 2018 04:49:43
All of these trades are too much for Butler. He should be considered a one year rental. Even if he agrees to sign an extension, he is going to want a max deal. Too much for a 30 year old. I would steer clear of Butler.

14 Sep 2018 17:58:42
Celtics get: C/PF Myles Turner, PF/C Alize Johnson, 2021 2nd Round Pick (Fromm IND)
Pacers get: C Nikola Vucevic, SG/SF Jaylen Brown
Magic get: PG Cory Joseph, C/PF Ike Anibogu

14 Sep 2018 20:29:50
I don't think the Celtics are giving up Brown for Turner.

14 Sep 2018 21:55:42
Ainge wouldn't hang up, but would demand more.

15 Sep 2018 12:58:33
Brown will not be traded until or if Anthony Davis is on the block.

14 Sep 2018 04:10:20
MINNESOTA / INDIANA / PHOENIX

MIN get Josh Jackson, Thad Young & 1st round pick IND
- get a young wing with potential & another vet to keep them in hopes for playoffs

Pg Teague/Jones
Sg Jackson/Rose/Okogie
Sf Wiggins/Deng
Pf Gibson/Young
Ce Towns/Dieng

IND get Jimmy Butler, Ryan Anderson & 2nd round pick PHX
- get a star taking in Anderson but can help them

Pg Evans/Joseph
Sg Oladipo/Bogdanovic
Sf Butler/McDermott
Pf Anderson/Leaf
Ce Sabonis/Oquinn

PHX get Myles Turner & Darren Collison
- Turner/Ayton pair would be so good and they get a point guard with unloading of Anderson's contract

Pg Collison/Okobo
Sg Booker/Melton
Pf Ariza/Warren
Pf Turner/Bender
Ce Ayton/Chandler

13 Sep 2018 21:04:55
Pacers receive: PG Kemba Walker, SF/PF T.J. Warren
Suns receive: PG Cory Joseph, PF/SF T.J. Leaf
Hornets receive: PG Darren Collison, PG Aaron Holiday, 2019 1st Round Pick (from IND), 2021 2nd Round Pick (from IND)

*Pacers do this to get a star Point Guard to pair with Dipo. Also get a capable defender off the bench, allows Tyreke to play his natural position at point off the bench.
*Suns do this to get a good point guard since Joseph did well for the Pacers last season. Also get a young asset in Leaf and clear cap getting an expiring contract in Joseph and rookie contract in Leaf. Allow them to chase star point guard next offseason.
*Hornets do this because they are not in playoff contention and will get a worse return if they hold on to Kemba too long. Trade him for expiring contract in Collison but a young guard in Holiday. Also get assets and this is probably their best offer since Kemba is a FA next offseason.

13 Sep 2018 22:32:21
Good but not there best offer.

12 Sep 2018 11:58:27
Pacers-Hornets

Pacers: K.Walker & M.Williams

Hornets: T.Young, D.Collison, 1st round pick & 2nd round pick

Pacers-Suns

Pacers: T.Warren

Suns: C.Joseph & TJ Leaf


Pacers

Walker-Evans-Holiday
Oladipo-McDermott
Warren-Bogdanovic
Sabonis-Williams
Turner-Oquinn

12 Sep 2018 16:10:31
Second one is more believable. Pacers need to add a bit more for first trade, probably a young player like Holiday it Anibogu.

10 Sep 2018 18:56:10
INDIANA PACERS GETS

Adams and Roberson from the Thunder and Aldridge from the Spurs. Adams and Aldridge has three years remaining on their contracts.

SAN ANTONIO SPURS GETS

Young and Bogdanovic from the Pacers.

OKLAHOMA CITY THUNDER GETS BACK

Oladipo and Sabonis from the Paul George Trade and Thunder give the Pacers draft picks in the Future to make this trade complete.


Thunder Starting Lineup

Westbrook
Oladipo
Sabonis
George
Grant


Maybe not perfect but according to the NBA Trade Machine -- Thunder gained 7 wins and with Oladipo and Ferguson handling the Shooting Guard spot and Westbrook and Schroder at the point -- our guards in good hands.

You can give the monies to Sabonis to anchor the Center spot and with Grant and Patterson at the Power Forward spot -- the Thunder has finally got the depth at every position and with Noel backing up Sabonis were set to be a better team than the Rockets and I believe that we don't need 1st Round Picks until 2022 to rebuild. I know this trade is a dream trade for OKC -- but I will face backlash from you guys and believe me if Presti can pull this off -- OKC can challenge the Warriors seriously.

10 Sep 2018 19:02:07
you just gave me a hartattack.
Can you explain me why the Pacers would do this?

10 Sep 2018 19:41:26
The Pacers won’t and shouldn’t trade Oladipo.

10 Sep 2018 19:49:27
Spurs say no.

10 Sep 2018 21:07:38
I love how the trade is essentially "Oops, sorry, we gave you too good of players for Paul George. Could you please give them back and take these two inferior players instead? " OKC fans are hilarious.

10 Sep 2018 21:58:18
Also, it's two separate trades, not one big one:

Young and Bogdanovic for Aldridge (terrible for SA)

Oladipo and Sabonis for Adams and Roberson (horrible for Indy, like hilariously horrible for Indy) . I'd probably take Sabonis over Adams due to Adams bad contract, and Oladipo is lightyears above Roberson.

You're right, you'll get backlash. But that's only because this trade is reeeeealy one sided. Like D_Drainer or MD_StaySmooth one sided.

10 Sep 2018 04:19:58
Suns-Pacers-Wolves

Suns: C.Joseph, T.Young

Pacers: J.Butler, 2nd rd pick Suns

Wolves: T.Warren, M.Turner, 1st round pick Pacers

10 Sep 2018 08:02:27
I like Butler going to Indy.

07 Sep 2018 15:14:14
Indiana Pacers

Get Jimmy Butler and Jeff Teague from the Timberwolves

Minnesota Timberwolves

Get Steve Adams, Andre Roberson from the Thunder, and Collision from the Pacers and a future 1st Pick from the Thunder and a future 2nd Round Pick from the Timberwolves.

Oklahoma City Thunder

Get back Oladipo from the Pacers and Gorgui Dieng from the Timberwolves.

Thunder Starting Lineup

Westbrook
Oladipo
Dieng
George
Grant.

07 Sep 2018 15:30:40
Why would Indy trade Oladipo for Butler? Butler is a little better, but Oladipo is younger, locked up multiple years, and actually wants to be in Indy.

07 Sep 2018 15:34:21
Why would Indy consider this?

07 Sep 2018 19:31:16
Not only does Indy say no, Thunder say no. They would not trade Adams, Roberson, and a 1st for Oladipo and Dieng. Adams fits the team better and is a young beast who will still improve, and who terrorizes teams on the offensive glass and great in P&R, Andre Roberson is a 1st or 2nd all defensive team calliber player every year when healthy and a 1st round pick.

07 Sep 2018 21:37:39
I think that if they felt like Noel could produce at an even passable level, OKC would do it. If you throw Oladip back on that team, it’s pretty interesting.

07 Sep 2018 22:31:34
I'd take that trade in a second if I'm OKC.

Adams is an above average center, but barely. Is he a top 10 center?

Roberson is a nice role player, but is replaceable.

Oladipo is an all star, he's a top 30 player in the league. You shouldn't clutch onto role players if it means you could get a star.

08 Sep 2018 00:01:34
For years to come, Oladipo could be better than Butler.

03 Sep 2018 11:13:19
Suns-Celtics-Pacers

Suns: T.Rozier, T.Young (exp)

Celtics: M.Turner, 2nd rd pick Suns

Pacers: T.Warren, D.Bender, 1st rd pick Celtics (worse of Clippers/Memphis)

Suns gave up 2 young players for a position of need and an expiring vet. Warren is good but they have a logjam at wings

Pg Rozier-Okobo
Sg Booker-Daniels
Sf Ariza-Jackson
Pf Young-Anderson
Ce Ayton-Chandler

Celtics need a guy like Turner more than Rozier. They gave up potentially a mid 1st rd pick but could be worth it

Pg Irving-Smart
Sg Hayward-Brown
Sf Tatum-Morris
Pf Horford-Theiss
Ce Turner-Baynes

Pacers would have a hard time paying Turner after the season. They get Warren (a position of need) who has a good contract and a young center/forward who still has a potential. They also gain a 1st rd pick in the deal

Pg Collison-Joseph
Sg Oladipo-Evans
Sf Warren-Bogdanovic
Pf Sabonis-Leaf
Ce Oquinn-Bender

Any revision? Who says no? Who needs to give up more?less?

03 Sep 2018 14:57:58
If I’m Indy, I want more to give up Turner. He’s already good on both ends and has the potential to be really good. He has all the tools you’d want out of a modern big. Rozier is probably a starting caliber pg, but he hasn’t proven it yet.

03 Sep 2018 16:51:53
Celtics give all your 2019 1st for Turner.

30 Aug 2018 04:19:31
Celtics-Pelicans-Pacers

Celtics: A.Davis, B.Bogdanovic

Pelicans: T.Young (exp), M.Turner, J.Brown, 1st round pick 2019 1st Boston (own), Pacers 1st round pick 2019 (top 12 protected), Kings pick 2019 via Celtics

Pacers: G.Hayward, A.Ajinca

Celtics finally acquire superstar big man at the expense of Hayward and multiple picks. Tough to lose Hayward but only he and Horford are the only available to match the salary and i think Hayward is more appealing to any team

Pg Irving-Rozier
Sg Bogdanovic-Smart
Sf Tatum-Morris
Pf Davis-Yabusele-Ojeleye
Ce Horford-Theiss

Pelicans (only if they will move Davis, i doubt actually but just a try for a great package for him)

Pg Payton-Clark
Sg Holiday-Moore
Sf Brown-Young-Hill
Pf Randle-Mirotic
Ce Turner-Okafor-Diallo

Pacers add an all-star to their line up. They still have Sabonis that could be very good

Pg Collison-Holiday
Sg Oladipo-Evans
Sf Hayward-McDermott
Pf Sabonis-Leaf
Ce Oquinn-Ajinca

30 Aug 2018 04:39:40
I can’t see the Pacers giving up Turner and a 1st for Heyward.

30 Aug 2018 05:01:15
Fantasy trade.

30 Aug 2018 07:59:48
That's a lot for Hayward, but i like this trade for Indy, when Hayward is cleared healty.

30 Aug 2018 11:52:07
Interesting deal. I like it for Boston. It's just not going to happen.
Hayward is not being traded, at least for this season.

30 Aug 2018 11:55:25
Hayward had a grant hill type of injury, he might not ever be the same type of player.

30 Aug 2018 18:09:45
From everything I've heard, Hayward's injury wasn't Grant Hill type at all. It was a fairly clean break, it was more like Paul George.

If I'm Indy, I'd take this in a heartbeat. Oladipo and Hayward would be a great duo.

I'm torn for Boston. I don't really like the idea of going from one of the deepest wing rotations ever to kind of thin. That said, if you can get AD, you get him.

It's not a bad return for AD, but I think NO would want to have a ridiculously unfair return to trade him. They'd want Brown, Tatum, Rozier, the Sacramento first, plus more. That's too much, but I think that's the asking price at this point.

25 Aug 2018 04:36:58
OKC/IND/MIN

OKC get Thad Young
- get a PF that fits the team well

Pg Westbrook/Shroeder
Sg Roberson/Ferguson
Sf George/TLC/Singler
Pf Young/Grant
Ce Adams/Noel

IND get Jimmy Butler, Taj Gibson & Alex Abrines
- get a superstar, a vet big and a young wing who can shoot

Pg Collison/Holiday
Sg Oladipo/Evans
Sf Butler/McDermott/Abrines
Pf Gibson/Leaf
Ce Sabonis/Oquinn

MIN get Myles Turner, Bojan Bogdanovic, Patrick Patterson, 1st round pick IND & OKC

Pg Teague/Jones
Sg Bogdanovic/Rose
Sf Wiggins/Okogie
Pf Turner/Patterson
Ce Towns/Dieng/Patton

25 Aug 2018 13:47:55
OKC says "NOOOOOOOO"

Thad Young is a 30 year old, shooting 32% from deep in the last year of his 13 mil contract. He's averaging 12 points on 32 minutes of play.
He's going to be sharing minutes with Grant, which means that he will likely be playing closer to 25 mins, so at best averaging 9-10 points per-game, still shooting below league average in 3's.
Patterson averages 7 points on 25 mins of play, 37% from deep and still has 2 years to go on his 5.5 mil contract.

Not to mention that Abrines is a MUCH better backup at Shooting Guard than Ferguson is right now and he also still has 2 more years left on his 5.5 mil contract.

And finally, OKC doesn't have a 1st rounder to give anyone until 2024. That far out, it doesn't carry very much weight, not to mention, we don't need to give it out for someone who is at best slightly better than one of the players your giving away.

This deal wouldn't even be beneficial if it was just Singler and Patterson and a highly protected 2nd round pick in 2020.

Indiana and Minn may benefit and like this deal, but leave OKC out of it.

25 Aug 2018 14:23:14
The sticking point is Abrines. A player no one out of okc has heard of and no one in okc should care about.

Interesting.

25 Aug 2018 15:25:09
Yeah, the first is the reason this can’t happen. Young is a decent player and would probably be an upgrade at pf for OKC, but he’s not worth a first and OKC doesn’t have one to give.

07 Aug 2018 01:22:48
Trade deadline possibility if Butler puts TWolves in a bad place and teams don't want to risk assets for half a season of Butler.

Thunder get Butler and Patton
T-Wolves get Schroder, Ferguson, Abrines, and 2 seconds
This trade would work I checked.

T-Wolves get a player that is still kinda young in Schroder that still hasn't reached his best, a good young prospect in Ferguson, a player to knock down 3's and improving at defense in Abrines, and 2 2nd round picks. This trade package is in the same ball park as what pacers got for George Schroder isn't quite oladipo and Ferguson might not be as imediate of a pay off as Sabonis but still has great potential. This is why I also threw in Abrines to make the money match and give them someone who can knock down the 3 and he has an expiring contract, I also added the 2 2nds to make it better. I know y'all are going to say no way they can get more, but everyone said that with George as well. And it depends on how bad of a spot Butler puts them in he could make it bad enough they just don't want to lose him for nothing but teams don't want to take a risk on him if he says he is entering FA.
Thunder do this because they can't make any big signings in FA unless they have bird rights to go over the luxury tax limit since they are already way over. They would have bird rights so they could sign Butler. Butler has said he wants to win and thunder is in a serious win now mode. Once Westbrook and Georges contract is up who knows what will happen and they are creeping closer and closer to older age. Thunder has a good core to build around now and this would give them better shooting and defense and a nice athletic big 3.
If this happened trade Singler for a filler at PG or PF no one good just a backup if absolutely needed. Then sign someone for the other position.

Thunder line up
Westbrook/ Felton/?
Butler/ TLC/ Diallo
George/ Roberson/ Nader
Grant/ Patterson/?
Adams/ Noel/ Patton
This team would make the conference finals.

07 Aug 2018 15:23:03
I would have to think that schroeder and wiggins would be the least efficient, worst shooting, and potentially worst defensive backcourt in the history of the nba. Not even exaggerating there. The wolves would be better letting butler walk than taking on schroeder.

08 Aug 2018 00:03:11
Pretty sure twolves let him walk before that deal nobody wants to pay them bums except okc.

06 Aug 2018 04:21:53
Pacers get - Drummond and Wagner

Pistons get - Deng Ingram Thad and Bogdanovic

Lakers get - Turner and Leuer

Ball/Rondo
KCP/Hart
Lebron/Stephenson
Kuzma/Leuer
Turner/Mcgee

Collison/Holiday
Oladipo/Joseph
Evans/McDermott
Sabonis/Leaf/Wagner
Drummond/O'quinn

Jackson/Smith
Kennard/Bullock
Ingram/Bogdanovic
Thad/Elleson
Griffin/Pachullia

06 Aug 2018 11:35:50
This is awful for Detroit.

06 Aug 2018 13:53:34
I believe Ingram is going to be better than Drummond, so i don't think it's awfull for Detroit.

I don't dislike this for Indy, but i don't think Sabonis- Drummond would work, Turner isn't a great 3-point shooter, but atleast he can shoot the three.

I don't get it why LA would prefer Turner over Drummond. Drummond is locked for a few years and Turner is going to be a free agent. There's no need to involve Indy in this trade.

06 Aug 2018 15:29:29
Gasupo- Lakers are trying go get one year deals to keep max space for next summer.

06 Aug 2018 17:13:19
Yeah, but you don't refuse Drummond, if you can trade him for Ingram and Deng.
Otherwise they better keep Ingram and stretch Deng's contract over 4 years.

03 Aug 2018 02:46:13
Thunder lack a solid backup SF and have several young players that can battle for the backup SG position Ferguson, TLC, Diallo so I think they should trade Alex Abrines using the TPE from Melo trade to get a solid SF for the bench. Most of the trades would make the luxury bill go up a lot but Thunder could cut, trade, or stretch Singler to make them cheaper and open a roster spot after the trade.

Thunder get Demarre Carroll
Nets get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd

Thunder get Marvin Williams
Hornets get Abrines

Thunder get Korver
Cavs get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd’s

Thunder get Bojan Bogdanovic
Pacers get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd’s

Thunder get Josh Richardson
Heat get Abrines, 2 2 nd’s

Thunder get Tony Snell
Bucks get Abrines

Thunder get Courtney Lee
Knicks get Abrines, 1 2nd if needed

Thunder get Jonathan Simmons
Magic get Abrines 2 2nd’s

Thunder get CJ Miles
Raptors get Abrines, a 2nd if needed

Thunder get Garrett Temple
Grizzlies get Abrines, a 2nd if needed

Thunder get E'Twaun Moore
Pelicans get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd’s

Thunder get Jae Crowder
Jazz get Abrines, 2 2nds

At trade deadline if Ariza won't sign with sun's next year
Thunder get Ariza
Suns get Abrines, 1 or 2 seconds

Give me your opinions. Will any of these work?

03 Aug 2018 05:24:03
Can't include a TPE with a player.

03 Aug 2018 06:13:48
Dang I didn't realize that. Well ignore all of those.

 
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