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19 Jul 2017 14:18:22
boston: A Davis

NO: J Wall+D Green+ T Parker (release)+ 1rnd pick Clippers 2019

Was: JR Holiday+ 1rnd pick Nets 2018+ 1rnd pick Vancouver 2019+ 1rnd pick Spurs 2018 and 2020

Spurs: A Horford

19 Jul 2017 14:43:55
Beyond ridiculous that an aging, overpriced Horford, 2 mid to late firsts, and the nets pick gets you one of the top 5 players in the game who is under contract for 3 more years, and is only 25. Celtics are committing robbery.

19 Jul 2017 15:17:57
This trade is beyond stupid. The Pels give up AD for Wall basically. Nope.

19 Jul 2017 22:36:19
Boston fans need to stop thinking AD is coming, he's locked up long term and you don't trade locked up under 25 yr old top 5 player. keep dreaming Boston fans, go have another sam Adams.

20 Jul 2017 02:30:00
Agree with all the comments. Washington isn't moving Wall unless he asks out at some point, Davis is even less likely to get moved, and Boston isn't giving any where near enough in this trade to get anyone's attention.

The Wizards are the 3rd best team in the East and are still pretty young. The Pelicans have a chance to be solid this year and even if they aren't they have time to blow
It up and build around Davis.

08 Jul 2017 14:17:34

Sixers get:least favorable of Twolves/Clippers protected 2018 1st via Hawks

Hawks get: Okafor, Stauskas.

Okafor is 21 and stauskas is 23. Both young guys in positions of need for Atlanta. With Howard gone, the only center is plumlee. With THJ signing a ridiculous contract with NY, a sg is also needed. Both in last guranteed year of contracts. Okafor makes 4.8 and stauskas 3.7. Worth a one year trial for hawks where they both could see considerable increase in playing time and production. Sixers get a late protected 1st in return.

08 Jul 2017 14:51:37
I think the sixers see higher value in the 2 players and won't accept. Stauskas is a good 2nd/ 3rd sg and Okafor gets some time to develop behind Embiid and Holmes. Both could get really good bench players. Sixers might accept it if you take out stauskas.

07 Jul 2017 16:33:46

DET get: Chandler Parsons, Al Jefferson, Marcus Smart, and 2019 1st DP LAC (via BOS) and 2019 1st DP MEM (via BOS)

pg. Smith/ Smart
sg. Bradley
sf. Parsons
pf. Harris
c. Jefferson/ Marjonovic

MEM get: Andre Drummond, Thad Young, Jae Crowder, and 2018 1st DP BKN (via BOS)

pg. Conley
sg. McLemore
sf. Crowder
pf. Young/ Green
c. Drummond

BOS get: Marc Gasol

pg. Thomas
sg. Hayward
sf. Brown/ Tatum
pf. Horford
c. Gasol

IND get: Reggie Jackson

pg. Jackson
sg. Oladipo
sf. Stephenson
pf. Leaf
c. Turner

07 Jul 2017 16:57:54
Boston needs to give up more money and I'm not sure why the Pacers are even involved unless they get a 1st back I doubt they want any part of Jackson.

07 Jul 2017 17:01:46
I still don't understand how people think Boston will get Gasol. He's entirely way too expensive unless they move one of their few larger contracts. They already need to shed around $3 mil in order to sign Hayward, which is where all this comes into play. In this trade, you have them moving Crowder, who's got $6.8 Mil and Smart who's making $4.5 mil, while taking on Gasol for %22.6 mil. That is not a possibility.

07 Jul 2017 17:30:16
Technically, they only needed about 300K to fit Hayward.

08 Jul 2017 04:34:17
celtics losing all there best defenders. that's what got them the number 1 seed. bradley already gone and now smart and crowder in this trade. no marc gasol isn't worth it.

06 Jul 2017 14:17:31

Utah trades: Hayward (s&t) Exum, 2020 1st round pick

Boston trades: Crowder, Rozier, 2019 Clippers pick.

06 Jul 2017 14:58:38
I'm not sure what motivation Utah would have to trade away a pick of exum in a s and t even if that was legal to do which it's not.

06 Jul 2017 16:56:31
I don't think Jazz would be allowed to give up anything more than Hayward in a sign and trade . For something like this to work Celtics would trade Crowder, Rozier and 2019 Clippers pick for Exum and 2020 first and then just sign Hayward outright. Although that isn't a terrible offer I think Celtics could find a better one elsewhere that would at least net them a big man that they could really use.

06 Jul 2017 00:34:26
Boston: K Love+ Drummond

Cle: Bradley+ Horford

Detroit: M Morris+ Frye+1rnd pick Clippers 19+ 1rnd pic Memphis 19+ 1rnd pick Boston 2018+ 1rnd pick Was 2018

Was: J Crowder

C: Drummond/ zizic
PF: +K Love/ Ojeleye
SF: Hayward/ Isaac
Sg: Smart/ J Brown
PG: I Thomas/ Rozier

Cleveland receive a good replacement for KLove in Horford And Bradley is a good shooter and defender.

Detroit can rebuilt with 4 extra draft picks

Washington get a cheap replacement for Porter

06 Jul 2017 12:33:20
Complete steal for Boston. For the Cavs its alright, I rather have Love than Horford but Bradley would be a great fit as a 3 and D guard. Only thing is Bradley is in final year of his contract and will be a unrestricted FA that will demand a lot of money so he'll be expensive for Cavs to keep around (They should dump Shumpert and/ or Smith if they were to get him) .

Hate it for Detroit. Drummond isn't perfect but he is young, signed long term and one of best rebounders in the game. Although that's 4 1sts all of them with exception of maybe Memphis aren't going to even be in the lottery so not that much value there. Celtics would have to include at least the Lakers/ Kings pick if they were serious about adding Drummond (maybe even Nets pick) .

I think Washington is going to match Porters contract anyway but Crowder would be a solid and much cheaper replacement. Issue is they are giving up a starter in Morris so they are opening up another hole in the lineup.

06 Jul 2017 14:08:14
As a Pistons fan I'm fine with this trade. Although he's a great rebounder, Drummond sucks at everything else a big man is supposed to do and I question his work ethic. The upside is there but I'd much rather get 4 firsts out of him and rebuild. Pistons need to get out of this mediocre rut they've been stuck in.

06 Jul 2017 13:14:05
I could replace Morris by J Smith

Washington could match the Porter offer, but that's a huge contract for a non all star. And if they do sign him, Crowder would be a great sixth man (can play the two, three and four), on a reasonable contract.

I think Detroit could do this. Drummond is good, but they're playing for the eight spot. so they should trade him for draft picks, maybe the LA pick should be involved, but i'm not sure Ainge is prepared to give up that pick.

06 Jul 2017 14:58:23
That's all crazy. Boston couldn't afford both of those players. Plus, Drummond doesn't work in Brad Stevens system. He'd be uselesa, especially at his price tag.

06 Jul 2017 15:05:14
Not a terrible idea and the value isn't bad, but I don't see the Cavs facilitating a deal where Boston ends up with 2 allstars. It seems counter productive.

07 Jul 2017 14:52:19
@ Yumbo

Horford :28 M
Crawford: 9M
Bradley: 7M
Tot: 44M

K Love: 23M
Drummond :23M
Tot: 46 M.

07 Jul 2017 14:53:33

true, but this trade improves Cleveland too.
And maybe Cleveland need a stronger East.
So they are prepared to face Golden State.

06 Jul 2017 03:38:14
Porzingis Blockbuster
Celtics receive:
F Kristaps Porzingis

Knicks receive:
F Jae Crowder
F Jaylen Brown
18' Nets 1st (unprotected)
19' Grizzlies 1st (protected)
19' Clippers 1st (protected)
18' Lakers 1st or 19' Kings 1st (protected)

Celtics with Porzingis
PG Isaiah Thomas / Terry Rozier
SG Avery Bradley / Marcus Smart
SF Gordon Hayward /Jayson Tatum
PF Al Horford / Guershan Yabusele
C Kristaps Porzingis / Ante Zizic

Carmelo Blockbuster
Rockets receive:
F Carmelo Anthony

Suns receive:
F Ryan Anderson
20' Rockets 1st (protected)
22' Rockets 1st (protected)

Knicks receive:
G Brandon Knight
F Jared Dudley
C Alan Williams (sign-and-trade)

Stretch and waive Joakim Noah's contract

Knicks Post Melo and KP
PG Frank Ntilinka / Brandon Knight
SG Courtney Lee / Ron Baker
SF Jaylen Brown / Jared Dudley
PF Jae Crowder / Kyle O'Quinn
C Willy Hernangomez/Alan Williams

Start with this roster into next season. Eventually move Lee for a late first. Get a second rounder for Kyle O'Quinn. See if anybody wants Lance Thomas. Would be hesitant to move Crowder because of his contract but if a team offers two firsts, take it. Bottom out. Get the two top picks in the upcoming draft with yours and Brooklyn's and just redraft this whole ship. Jaylen Brown has a good chance to be an All-Star and then get some more via the draft. Probably be relevant again in 2020. It's better than watching the Knicks win 32 games with Melo and KP on the roster.

06 Jul 2017 05:28:56
I'm high on Porzingis, but that offer seems like to much. Also, if I'm the Knicks, I take the picks and swallow Anderson's contract. They could feature him early on and possibly get rid of him around the deadline. He's a solid player and his contract isn't ridiculously bad.

05 Jul 2017 21:33:56
The rest of the Clippers offseason moves:

Clippers sign Derrick Rose for the MLE

Clippers sign and trade:
Receive Tony Allen
Trade Wes Johnson and future 2nd

Clippers sign and trade:
Receive Alex Len
Trade future 2nd rounder, TPE 7.2 mill from Houston

Rose/ Beverly/ Evans
Rivers/ Lou Will/ Thornwell
Gallinari/ Allen/ Dekker
Griffin/ Harrell/ Johnson
Jordan/ Len.

06 Jul 2017 03:39:04
Rose gets 15mil.

04 Jul 2017 15:26:07
Double Sign and Trade!!

Clippers get Gallanari
Nuggets get Millsap
Hawks get Crawford, Stone, Hou 1st

04 Jul 2017 18:24:30
If you think this is unbelievable then you are wrong because it is an actual trade that is happening.

04 Jul 2017 18:39:57
Then why post it?

03 Jul 2017 16:23:12
Clippers last moves

- release Witjer, Liggins, Hilliard
- let Mbah, Felton, Bass and Anderson walk
- sign Gay
- resign Griffin and Speights


03 Jul 2017 16:45:51
They're either going to sign Gay or Gallinari. Gallinari is their 1st choice. Rivers isn't a PG and he won't play PG. He will start at the 2 and have Lou Will and Jamal off the bench. That is, if both are still on the team. They are looking to trade one of them.

Also, I highly doubt that speights returns.

03 Jul 2017 21:04:23
Rather them trade for Cole Aldrich and fit him into the trade exception from the CP3 trade. A front line of Griffin, DJ, Aldrich, Harrell is pretty solid.

03 Jul 2017 03:16:31

LAC get Carmelo Anthony

NY get Kent Bazemore & Wesley Johnson

ATL get Jamaal Crawford (exp) , 2018 protected 1st from LAC & 2nd round picks from NYK


Pg Beverley
Sg Rivers
Sf Anthony
Pf Griffin
Ce Jordan

03 Jul 2017 04:19:30
LAC can't trade a 2018 First since it's 2019 First is owed to Boston.

03 Jul 2017 04:53:22
The money looks off .

02 Jul 2017 20:57:15

Pacers-Harris, Muddiay or Lyles, Faried, (take on 20m of cap space from Faried and Arthur till 2018/19 but get good young prospect in Harris)

Nuggets- Thad Young, Wesley Johnson or Austin Rivers, future Clippers 1st, future Pacers 2nd

Clippers- Gallanari (s&t)

03 Jul 2017 15:35:44
I think that this is fair to all side. I would do Fareid and Muiday from DEN but ask for Thad Young and future 1.

30 Jun 2017 16:54:10
Cavs get Crawford
Clippers get Shumpert.

30 Jun 2017 18:02:44
Why would the Cavs want Crawford? He's 36 years old, on a terrible contract, and doesn't provide anything that the Cavs really need. They have plenty of scoring. Shumpert's defense and athleticism does way more for the Cavs than anything a volume scorer could bring.

30 Jun 2017 18:54:27
The salaries don't work and it's a bad trade for the Cavs. Crawford is over 35 and signed for 2 more years. The Clippers will struggle to even get rid of his contract without adding young talent or picks. The Cavs have plenty of scoring . They need more length, defense, and athleticism. I'm not sure what this trade really adds for the Cavs.

30 Jun 2017 19:26:28
My bad didn't think the 1st went through.

30 Jun 2017 14:33:00
30 Jun 2017 13:54:44
Knicks Next Two Offseasons

Hire David Griffin as new President of Basketball Operations

Fire Jeff Hornacek and Kurt Rambis

Hire Mark Jackson as new Head Coach


Bulls get Courtney Lee, Joakim Noah, and 2019 1st Round Draft Pick

Knicks get Dwayne Wade

Free Agency

Resign Derrick Rose for 1 year and $15 million as a stop gap.

2017-18 Starting Lineup

PG Rose
SG Wade
SF Melo
PF Porzingis
C Hernangomez

I think with Mark Jackson as the coach with his big New York personality and Dwayne Wade's leadership and championship pedigree this team will be vastly improve.

Then......2018-2019 Offseason

Melo declines his 2018-2019 player option.

Free Agency

Sign LeBron James for 2 years and $50 million

Sign Chris Paul for 2 years and $50 million

Resign Carmelo Anthony for 2 years and $30 million

Resign Dwayne Wade for 2 years and $20 million

2018-2019 Starting Lineup

PG Paul
SG Wade
SF James
PF Melo
C Porzingis

I know the speculation as of late is that LA is going to be LeBron's next destination but with Paul leaving the Clippers and the Lakers having many young pieces already in place with the intent of adding George, NY might be his best bet at making their Banana Boat Dream a Reality. LeBron has said numerous times that MSG is his favorite place to play so playing half your games at your favorite arena with your best friends is not a bad alternative. Not to mention, LeBron having a relationship with David Griffin.

I know this is highly unlikely and probably a pipe dream. But being a Knicks fan, pipe dreams are all I have because the reality sucks.

30 Jun 2017 15:53:44
Might as well bring back Earl Monroe and Dave DeBusschere while you're at it.

30 Jun 2017 20:30:03
literally you ONLY post to insult the knicks. We get it, you are a celtics fan and while you have a ton of picks, youve essentially floundered them and your team is fool's gold. Let me break this down for you.

You have now had 3 picks which should generate elite players. You have gotten good, not great, rotational players. Your big contract, horford, was given a terrible contract. He is no elite big man. But he's making a massive amount.

Now, you got bradley. expiring contract and will get 20mill+ offers. IT3, expiring, would need near max, likely max, to keep him.

So, essentially, after this year, the celtics will have Horford making 30 million, Crowder making 7.5 million, some rookies/ role players, and not much else. Get it?

Its fun, ainge gets so much praise for trading adn getting draft picks. he's made one really good trade that fell into his lap. His drafting has been terrible. And now the contracts are about to explode in his face. We get it, celtics are pinning their hat on signing hayward and george. Because if you dont. the celitcs are getting near lottery team in a year.

30 Jun 2017 06:04:21
The Celtics are in a truly unique situation in terms of possibilities for their offseason starting this Saturday. They have, by far, the best mix of veteran talent, young talent, draft assets, and cap space to finesse into a super team if they so desire. Countless rumors have already floated around the Celtics, and big names such as Gordon Hayward, Paul George, and Blake Griffin have been linked to the Celtics. Here is a breakdown on how the Celtics can acquire all three of these names while also bringing over Guerschon Yabusele and Ante Zizic from overseas, all while hanging on to a good chuck of those aforementioned assets.

Transaction #1: Renounce the right to Jonas Jerebko, Amir Johnson, James Young, and Gerald Green as free agents, don't tender Kelly Olynyk a qualifying offer, and release Tyler Zeller, Jordan Mickey, and Demetrius Jackson before their contracts become guaranteed.

These moves would allow the Celtics to free up a decent amount of cap space since, all of them possess cap holds that would otherwise hinder the Celtics ability to sign Hayward. Here is a look at the Celtics' salary cap situation without any of those players as a part of their roster:

Al Horford: $27,734,405
Avery Bradley: $8,808,989
Jae Crowder: $6,796,117
Isaiah Thomas: $6,261,395
Jayson Tatum: $5,645,400
Jaylen Brown: $4,956,480
Marcus Smart: $4,538,020
Guerschon Yabusele: $2,247,480
Terry Rozier: $1,988,520
Ante Zizic: $1,645,200
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Total Salary: $72,253,236

With an estimated salary cap of $99 million and Gordon Hayward expected to take nothing less than the maximum $29.7 million available to him, the Celtics will have to find a way to shed slightly less than $3 million off their current salary cap to be able to sign him. One man in this group who has trade value and an expiring contract (retaining him after this season would be a difficult choice for the Celtics to make since he will undoubtedly receive inflated offers from various teams due to his defensive skill set and young age) is Marcus Smart, and he should be the odd man out in my opinion should the Celtics get a verbal agreement from Hayward to sign with them. If this is the case, the Celtics should look around throughout the league for a defensive-minded big man who is on a cheap contract. Therefore:

Transaction #2: Celtics trade Marcus Smart to the Sacramento Kings for Skal Labissiere

Labissiere would provide the Celtics with a young center (something they are lacking) who could potentially start for this team immediately and not have to worry about the burden of providing anything on the offensive end, instead focusing strictly on the defensive end and rebounding. Although the Kings just drafted De'Aaron Fox, already have Buddy Hield, and just signed Bogdan Bogdanovic, they can use Smart off the bench to back up both starters and provide the team with a lot of energy and very strong defense off the bench. Shall he perform well for them, they will have more than enough money to retain him once he becomes a restricted free agent next year. Here is how the salary cap situation would look like for the Celtics following this trade:

Al Horford: $27,734,405
Avery Bradley: $8,808,989
Jae Crowder: $6,796,117
Isaiah Thomas: $6,261,395
Jayson Tatum: $5,645,400
Jaylen Brown: $4,956,480
Guerschon Yabusele: $2,247,480
Terry Rozier: $1,988,520
Ante Zizic: $1,645,200
Skal Labissiere: $1,242,240
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Total Salary: $68,957,456

Transaction #3: Sign Gordon Hayward

The previous mentioned trade would leave the Celtics with enough money to sign Gordon Hayward, making their salary cap situation look like this:

Gordon Hayward: $29,700,000
Al Horford: $27,734,405
Avery Bradley: $8,808,989
Jae Crowder: $6,796,117
Isaiah Thomas: $6,261,395
Jayson Tatum: $5,645,400
Jaylen Brown: $4,956,480
Guerschon Yabusele: $2,247,480
Terry Rozier: $1,988,520
Ante Zizic: $1,645,200
Skal Labissiere: $1,242,240
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Total Salary: $97,841,841

Now that the Celtics have Hayward, let's move on to George, who the Celtics would have to acquire via trade by meeting salary cap rules since they'd be dangerously close to being over the salary cap after signing Hayward. Provided below is a trade that would work salary wise and the Pacers would have a very tough time turning down:

Transaction #4: Celtics trade Jae Crowder, Avery Bradley, 2018 Celtics first round pick, 2019 Boston Celtics, and 2019 Los Angeles Clippers first round pick to the Indiana Pacers for Paul George

With the packages teams have received for superstar players in the last few months (DeMarcus Cousins and Chris Paul), there is no way the Pacers would receive a better offer for George than this one. It's a hefty price to give up if you're the Celtics, but necessary since Crowder's and Bradley's salaries are the only two salaries that can be put together to legally, under salary cap rules, work out a trade for George, unless they'd be willing to give up Isaiah Thomas, Jaylen Brown, or Jayson Tatum, which is highly doubtful. The Celtics' pick next year and in 2019 will not be high picks at all (they would be allowed to trade both in consecutive years since they have another first round pick next year in the Brooklyn Nets' pick) and the Clippers' pick has no potential to be a lottery pick, taking the various protections into consideration. All those picks would be well worth giving up for a player of George's caliber. Here is a breakdown of how the Celtics salary cap situation would like following this trade:

Gordon Hayward: $29,700,000
Al Horford: $27,734,405
Paul George: $19,508,958
Isaiah Thomas: $6,261,395
Jayson Tatum: $5,645,400
Jaylen Brown: $4,956,480
Guerschon Yabusele: $2,247,480
Terry Rozier: $1,988,520
Ante Zizic: $1,645,200
Skal Labissiere: $1,242,240
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Total Salary: $102,561,308

Now here is where things get interesting. The Celtics' interest in Griffin has also been well documented, as it should be. Despite suffering through some injuries this past season, Griffin is one of the most offensively gifted big men in the league. He is also only 28-years-old. The problem is that the Celtics wouldn't have anything close to enough money to sign him outright as a free agent. However, what if he were to inform the Clippers that he plans on leaving them in free agency regardless of who he signs with? Wouldn't the Clippers want to get some type of value in return for him? Wouldn't someone like Al Horford be more than they can ask for in a situation in which they lose Griffin?

Transaction #5: Celtics trade Al Horford to the Los Angeles Clippers for a sign-and-traded Blake Griffin

Although Horford may be a better defensive player than Griffin, there is no denying who the better overall player is out of the two. Taking into account the fact that Griffin is a few years younger than Horford, this trade would work out to be a good trade for the Celtics in both the short term and the long term. Here is a final breakdown of what the Celtics' salary cap situation and depth chart would look like following all of these transactions:

Gordon Hayward: $29,700,000
Blakr Griffin: $29,700,000
Paul George: $19,508,958
Isaiah Thomas: $6,261,395
Jayson Tatum: $5,645,400
Jaylen Brown: $4,956,480
Guerschon Yabusele: $2,247,480
Terry Rozier: $1,988,520
Ante Zizic: $1,645,200
Skal Labissiere: $1,242,240
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Total Salary: $104,526,903

PG: Thomas/Rozier
SG: Hayward/Tatum
SF: George/Brown
PF: Griffin/Yabusele
C: Labissiere/Zizic

Through these various transactions, the Celtics would acquire three bona-fide superstars to add to another superstar in Thomas, all while keeping their salary cap payroll below the luxury tax limit (at least for one more year), bringing over their two young rookies from overseas that they selected last year (both who could play a crucial part on the team since it would be lacking experienced big men), keeping all of their important future first round draft picks that could all turn out to be high draft picks, and keep youngsters such as Brown, Tatum, and Rozier while acquiring another one in Labissiere (albeit at Smart's expense).

Finally, the team would then be free to go out and pursue free agents such as Ersan Ilyasova, Nene, Tony Allen, Vince Carter, Zaza Pachulia, Andrew Bogut, David Lee, or David West for the league minimum or sign some of their second round picks (Kadeem Allen, Jabari Bird, Abdel Nader, or Semi Ojeleye) for the league minimum.

30 Jun 2017 06:23:43
If I'm Celtics I'd probably prefer WCS (Kings may too since Labissiere can play some pf) . Probably should try and bring a 3rd team into the Clippers trade but I guess if they got Horford they could sign a point guard and still try and be half decent (although their best route would likely be a big rebuild where they get a draft pick or young asset instead of Horford) .

30 Jun 2017 13:14:33
I can't see the clippers wanting to take on the horford contract, a contract I consider to be a bad one.

30 Jun 2017 14:31:03
Can you expand on your proposal a bit more? LOL kidding.

30 Jun 2017 15:20:47
Lol was that an essay or a trade idea? Lol.

30 Jun 2017 18:04:09
Did you get enough words in to get a decent a grade on this novellete?

30 Jun 2017 19:01:41
Seriously, I simply can't read all this. How do you possibly have the time to put in such an effort to write all this? Seriously. its insane.

30 Jun 2017 05:01:48


DET - R.Rubio + C.Aldrich
* upgrade at PG and get a young back up C


LAC - R.Jackson + 2018 MIN 1st (top 8 protected) + 2nd round pick DET
* get add'l picks


MIN - M.Morris + P.Beverley + L.Williams
* get shooters


30 Jun 2017 11:23:10
Minnesota's 2018 1st already goes to Atlanta.

30 Jun 2017 15:02:26
Clippers don't want Jackson's terrible contract. They want to shed salary if anything for next offseason. Beverley has a great contract for them and they love him in LA already. Already told cleveland they don't want to trade him.

30 Jun 2017 04:22:12

SAS - P.Beverley

LAC - 2018 1st round pick , 2nd round pick & B.Forbes

I think Beverley would be a nice fit for the Spurs on a cheap contract. They might lose Mills anyway. Clippers add picks and a young PG.

sign K.Olynyk 3yr/30mil


29 Jun 2017 09:31:16

Bucks acquire Millsap (s&t) & Jordan
*those 2 bring them to a new level

G Brogdon-Delly
G Middleton-Vaughn
F Giannis-Snell
F Millsap-Teletovic
C Jordan-Maker

Clippers acquire Monroe (exp) & J Parker
*take a chance at Jabari

G Beverley-Rivers
G Crawford-Williams
F Parker-Dekker
F Moute-Johnson
C Monroe-Harrell

Hawks acquire Henson
*young rim protector on decent contract

G Shroeder
F Bazemore
F Plumlee
C Henson

29 Jun 2017 10:17:16
Don't think they'd have to give up Parker to get Jordan. Could use Vaughn, DJ Wilson and I'd probably give up Maker before Parker at least until see him return from injury.

29 Jun 2017 12:59:57
Why does Jordan seem to have no value? He's got two years left. At minimum, Parker would need to go back to LA.

29 Jun 2017 14:33:32
I think Jordan is a great player but he is a traditional center and nowadays you only need so many of those on your team and if you already have a good one its hard to justify giving up valuable assets to get another one in Jordan. He has 1 year and a player option which he'll probably decline so he can get one more big contract (he'll be 30 by next offseason) so there is some risk there and overall I don't see a bunch of suitors. Jordan really only makes sense for a team looking to contend with already an established star. Most top teams (with the exception of Warriors who couldn't afford him) already have a solid starting center and dealing for Jordan although possibly an upgrade would be more trouble than its worth. Bucks and maybe the Celtics if they strike out on Hayward and Griffin are the only teams that really make sense in my mind. So couple the low demand for him with the Clippers likely wanting to get rid of him since he is potentially entering final year of his contract and Clippers already lost Paul and may lose Griffin they'd be best suited to blow things up. These factors I think could lead to him being a relative bargain.

I don't think trading Parker is necessarily bad but I think Bucks could get away without having to deal him or at least should get more in return since Parker was looking like a future all-star, he came back from first ACL fine and his youth will help him with return. Parker will be an expiring contract tho after next season and some team like the Nets will probably throw the max at him so maybe not worst idea for Bucks to move him since not worth the risk when they could get someone like Jordan.

29 Jun 2017 14:46:06
Why would Milwaukee want Jordan? He has NO offensive skills. They already have that in Henson!

Send Vaughn for Dekker,

Also no need for Millsap. The Bucks have 4 PF's now, ALL younger!

Teletovic, Vaughn, Terry, Henson, and yes, Parker, Should all be trade bait!

29 Jun 2017 09:17:32

Thunder get Pat Beverley , Nic Batum & Lou Williams

Clippers get Enes Kanter & 2018 1st round pick CHA

Hornets get Doug McDermott , Kyle Singler & Domantas Sabonis

29 Jun 2017 09:31:51
make the pick coming from OKC.

29 Jun 2017 13:11:44
I would love to see Westbrook and Beverley play together.

29 Jun 2017 13:51:00
Thunder want no part of Beverly.

29 Jun 2017 14:28:03
Clippers want no part of Kanter.

29 Jun 2017 18:12:10
nobody wants any part of Singler.

28 Jun 2017 22:55:28
Rockets Get: Chris Paul

Clippers Get: Patrick Beverley, Sam Dekker, Lou Williams, Darrun Hilliard, DeAndre Liggins, Kyle Wiltjer, Montrezl Harrell and a 2018 top 3 protected 1st

I don't think the Clippers are done making moves.

Suns Get: DeAndre Jordan

Clippers Get: Tyson Chandler, 2018 Miami 1st, 2018 Suns 2nd, 2018 Raptors 2nd

Cavs Get: Jamal Crawford

Clippers Get: Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye, 2020 Trail Blazers 2nd

P. Beverley/A. Rivers
L. Williams/I. Shumpert/D. Hilliard
S. Dekker/W. Johnson/D. Liggins
C. Frye/B. Johnson/K. Wiltjer
T. Chandler/M. Harrell/D. Stone

LA would probably finish with a top 5 pick and can hope for Luka Doncic, DeAndre Ayton,
Mohamed Bamba, Michael Porter Jr. or Robert Williams.

29 Jun 2017 00:08:22
Considering the Clippers almost lost CP3 for nothing, they made out like bandits.

29 Jun 2017 00:11:22
Why would the Cavs want Crawford over Shumpert? They need length and defense, not a volume scorer. Not to mention that Crawford is signed longer for more money and his numbers have declined each of the past 4 years. The Clippers will have to give up a pick to get rid of Crawford.

29 Jun 2017 03:27:43
I think that's great value for the Suns on Jordan but not sure if that team is quite ready for him especially with him not signed long term. I'd try and deal him to the Bucks who I think are one of the best teams with holes at center.

Don't like that trade for the Cavs. Shumperts defense is more important than what Crawford would provide. They'd be much more interested in Beverley. I think Clippers should deal Beverley and Williams since both are relatively cheap veterans who should have decent value to good teams.

Clippers have a long rebuild ahead of them but so long as they finish in lottery in 2019 and 2020 they have all their first rounders (if doesn't convey turns into 2022 2nd rounder) and if they hit on a pick or two could likely draw some FA talent since it is LA after all.

29 Jun 2017 04:53:27
Blake is resigning. They are trying to get contracts that either expire after this season for cap room or trying to flip some guys for a star.

28 Jun 2017 18:34:30
Clippers trade Beverly to Utah for OKC's 2018 1st rounder.

28 Jun 2017 19:25:05
There should be plenty of suitors for Beverly and Williams are relatively cheap vet options for contenders. I think Clippers should be able to do a little better than this for Beverly.

This would be a huge win for Utah since Beverly could start for them and allow them to save a lot of money not having to resign Hill or he could be a very good backup. Hayward is probably the #1 priority for Utah tho and they may not make a move like this until they know where he stands since without Hayward Jazz are probably looking at a rebuild and Beverly wouldn't make that much sense.

28 Jun 2017 21:25:48
Clippers don't have a PG other than Beverly. They're keeping him unless they get an upgrade or a big trade.

29 Jun 2017 03:35:38
Gpack17 Clippers can't get another point guard in FA and don't they still have coaches son who can play there? It won't really matter who they have there since they are going to be fairly awful. Beverley should have decent value as a 3 and D veteran on a reasonable contract for 2 years, I think Clippers would be wise turning him into assets that could help them in the future since he would probably do more bad than good (they are probably trying to tank now) for them.

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