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21 Jun 2017 20:50:51
Clippers Get: George
Clippers Give: Jordan

Wolves Get: Jordan
Wolves Give: Aldrich/Hill/#7

Pacers Get: Aldrich/Hill/#7
Pacers Give: George

21 Jun 2017 07:49:24
Clippers are looking to deal Jordan. Not sure what Clippers are looking for in return (I guess depends on how their offseason goes) but don't see them getting anything too great since most good teams don't have a need for a center, he'll be 29 in a month and he only has 1 year guaranteed left (player option for 18-19 which he'll probably opt out of to get one last big contract) .

Bucks get: Deandre Jordan
Clippers get: #17, Vaughn, Henson, Teletovic

Could swap Henson and Teletovic for Monroe if he opts in. This return would be decent if Clippers were aiming to rebuild.

Celtics get: DeAndre Jordan
Clippers get: Horford, Clippers 2019 1st, Boston 2018 1st

Boston needs a rebounder at center position and still keep cap space for Hayward and other moves. Clippers get draft picks including their own back and a versatile big that is signed a year longer than Jordan.

Bulls get: DeAndre Jordan
Clippers get: Lopez, Valentine and #16 pick

Bulls get an all-nba player to add to Butler and still have cap space to make a splash in FA. Could alternatively incorporate Wade if he opts in. Clippers get a solid pick and hometown solid starting big in Lopez and young prospect in Valentine.

Cavs get: Jordan
Clippers get: Thompson and Frye

Not sure if really makes Cavs better but Jordan is bigger force on interior and Clippers get a younger big that is signed 3 more years.

Wizards: Jordan
Clippers: Gortat and Bogdanovic (S&T)

Gortat is reportedly unhappy with Wizards so they upgrade on him while Clipper get two solid players in return.

Spurs and his hometown Rockets would also be good destinations but couldn't think of a trade that would really make sense for both sides (some of these are a stretch as is) .

21 Jun 2017 11:10:57
I think the clippers want pg. In that way they might keep cp3 and blake. Give the assets to indy.
If pg leaves in 2018 they still have cp3 and blake.
Think a firstrounder in the range 12-16 is enough because lakers can't offer much.

21 Jun 2017 13:52:19
I guess dealing Jordan would be a way for Clippers to get assets to get in the George sweepstakes. I'm just not sure Paul and Griffin would base their decision to return for multiple years or not on a guy who may only be a 1year rental. If anything its the other way around, if they are able to sign Paul and Griffin they could help Clippers to resign George if they traded Jordan for him in a 3 team trade.

21 Jun 2017 02:57:22
Cavs get Jordan
Clippers get #4 pick
Suns get love.

21 Jun 2017 06:00:10
I don't think Suns would be interested in Love due to their timeline and that they drafted two pfs in the lottery last year and uncovered a solid player in Alan Williams.

21 Jun 2017 08:15:52
Suns want their pick at #4. Not trading it for Love.

20 Jun 2017 21:19:50
This is supposed to go down.

Lee O'Quinn Thomas
For
Harkless Turner 15th

Knicks should follow that with
Clippers get Melo
Pistons get Rivers Crawford
Knicks get R.Jackson Leuer


Jackson/Ntilikina-8th
Turner/Mitchell-15th
Harkless/Kuzminkas
Porzingis/Leuer
Hernangomez/Noah/Plumlee

20 Jun 2017 22:10:22
Just because you say it's "supposed to go down", doesn't mean that will. Portland won't give you 15 for that package, not to mention, they can't take back more players than they give out. So next time you try to make it seem like you have inside knowledge, get your facts straight.

21 Jun 2017 00:03:15
Draft day scoop someone will owe someone an apology. Hopefully its me Lee is best player that trade.

21 Jun 2017 01:24:26
Portland will keep #15. Portland will use #20 and #26 either in combo trade or salary dumps. If pure salary dumps (Turner and Leonard) they will only take back future picks. If quasi-salary-dump (Crabbe - he has upside and solid value - he is just overpaid) they would want some value back, and not the three modicom players you mention. Harkless doesn't represent a salary dump whatsover, but they may trade him. but with relative fair value in return.

21 Jun 2017 01:50:12
Let's clean this trade up a bit.

To POR - Lee, O'Quinn, Thomas, 2017 2nd (via Rockets)

To NYK - Harkless, Napier, Turner, #20

Players are even, and Blazers keep pick #15.

20 Jun 2017 07:20:30
Detroit get Reddick (s&t) Crabbe
Clippers get Melo
Knicks get Turner Harkless Jackson Harris 15th 20
Blazers get Crawford Rivers Thomas Noah 8th 44th

Ish
Reddick
Crabbe
Morris
Drummond

Jackson/Ntilikini-8th/Simmons-58
Turner/Mitchell-15th/Randle
Harkless/Kuzminkas
Porzingis/Henson
Hernangomez/Plumlee

20 Jun 2017 03:39:50
Pacers-Clippers-Thunder

Pacers get Enes Kanter, Victor Oladipo, #21 pick, and Doug McDermott

Clippers get Paul George and Thad Young

Thunder get Blake Griffin (3yr 85m), CJ Miles (3yr 36m), and Wesley Johnson.

19 Jun 2017 19:19:35
BOS gets: Jimmy Butler and #16

Bulls get: #3, PHI pick, MEM pick, LAC pick, Terry Rozier and Jaylen Brown

Bulls get picks and force a Wade opt out. Draft Jackson

Rozier/ Grant
Brown/Valentine
Jackson Zipser
Portis/FA
Felicio/Lopez

Young enough to run. Skilled enough to design an offense around. Quicker rebuild. Lots of playing time available. Cap space to add shooting..Thoughts

19 Jun 2017 21:34:23
That's a pretty hefty price to pay for Butler, not a fan of it for the Celtics especially when Hayward isn't much worse and they could possibly get him for nothing.

19 Jun 2017 15:35:29
3 team trade
LAC/ IND/ PHX

Clippers get Paul George, Tyson Chandler

Pacers get Eric Bledsoe, Jamal Crawford, TJ Warren

Suns get Deandre Jordan, Monta Ellis, 1st from LAC 2019.

19 Jun 2017 16:05:21
Not sure why the Clippers would do this if Paul George is leaving to go to the Lakers After Next Season.

19 Jun 2017 17:29:35
why would he leave to the lakers if he is in LA with the Clippers. Not many people have done research. He actually grew up a Clippers fan. The only reason he has been rumored to the lakers is because he is from palmdale in southern california and admires kobe. But again, he grew up a clippers fan, he would stay with them.

19 Jun 2017 04:48:16
Celtics 2017

Sign Gordan Hayward

Celtics Butler Griffin

Clippers 2018 Lakers pick Horford

Bulls 3rd pick Bradley Crowder

19 Jun 2017 00:46:55
Trade:
1. Kevin Love, Cedi Osman and Kay Felder for Paul George
2. Iman Shumpert for Tyus Jones

Sign:
- Carmelo Anthony (Rumours are that the Knicks and Melo could agree to a buyout, then he'll choose between Cavs/Clippers)
- Tony Allen - 1yr/Vet Min
- Zach Randolph - 1yr/Vet Min (Allen and ZBo take the min for a chance to win the title)

Team:
PG - Kyrie, T. Jones, D. Jones
SG - JR Smith, Korver, T. Allen
SF - George, Melo, Jefferson
PF - Lebron, Randolph, Frye,
C - Thompson, Bogut, Tavares

Cavs get their own killer lineup that can matchup with the Warriors.
Kyrie - Curry
JR - Klay
Lebron - Draymond
George - Durant
Melo - Iggy

19 Jun 2017 05:40:32
Melo would start over JR let's get real!

19 Jun 2017 07:05:40
I haven't heard buyout rumors but that is about the only scenario I could see Cavs getting Melo and bench role is the best one for him. In order for the George trade to work I think a 3rd team would be involved to take Love and provide younger assets to Pacers. A team like Nuggets or even Celtics could work.

18 Jun 2017 20:03:36
Bulls - Celtics

Bulls gets:
Smart
Brown
3rd pick (Jackson)
2018 Nets first rd pick (Unprotected)
2019 Clippers first rd pick (Lottery protected)

Celtics gets:
Butler
2019 2nd rd pick
2020 2nd rd pick

18 Jun 2017 20:08:56
Take out the clippers and the 2nd rounders and it's fair.

18 Jun 2017 20:36:11
I personally would rather have 3 consecutive top 3 picks rather than Butler. That's what this deal is giving. Find it hard to believe that Butler is more valuable than Brown, Jackson and Porter

18 Jun 2017 21:04:41
Bulls only want fox not a lot of good pg next draft.

18 Jun 2017 21:51:22
i Like Butler, but that's to much.

18 Jun 2017 22:30:13
Wow that's a high value for Butler. If we got Brown and just ONE of the brooklyn picks I'd be doing cartwheels.

18 Jun 2017 23:10:07
Don't think Celtics should give up that much for Butler. I'm not certain I'd give up much more than 2 out of the 3 of Brown, 3rd pick and Nets 2018 pick. If I were Celtics I'd just try and sign Hayward and keep all their major picks and maybe deal the lesser ones for some rebounding/ big man help. Doesn't sacrifice their bright future while improving their current team some (probably not enough to beat Cavs or Warriors but I'm not convinced adding Butler does that either) .

16 Jun 2017 00:26:53
Terrible trade... .. all teams say no but whatever

Cle- Min- Lac

Cleveland gets Rubio, Jordan, pick #7 (monk)

Min gets Kyrie Irving, Shumpert, future clippers pick

Clippers get Dieng, Lavine

CLe: Rubio- Monk- Lebron- Love-Jordan

Min: Irving- Shumpert-Wiggins- Bjelixa- Towns

Clippers: Paul- Lavine- Sign SF- griffin- Dieng

15 Jun 2017 17:01:39
ATL - BOS - LAC - SAS

ATL get: Lamarcus Aldridge, Jaylen Brown, and SAS 1st DP 2017
Draft: Justin Jackson (19) and Ivan Rabb (29)
Sign: Jeff Teague

pg. Teague
sg. Brown
sf. Bazemore/ Jackson
pf. Aldridge
c. Rabb/ FA

BOS get: Blake Griffin and JJ Reddick
Draft: Markelle Fultz
Sign: Gordon Hayward

pg. Thomas/ Fultz
sg. Bradley/ Reddick
sf. Hayward
pf. Griffin
c. Horford

LAC get: Paul Milsap (s&t), Tony Parker, Jae Crowder, Dennis Schroeder and 2018 1st DP BKN via BOS

pg. Parker/ Schroeder
sg. Rviers/ Crawford
sf. Crowder
pf. Milsap
c. Jordan

SAS get: Dwight Howard and Chris Paul

pg. Paul
sg. Green
sf. Leonard
pf. Gasol
c. Howard

15 Jun 2017 18:02:30
C's can't sign Blake, JJ and Hayward. And then IT next year. Just can't happen mathematically.

15 Jun 2017 18:47:57
wouldnt resign IT, that's where fultz comes in.

15 Jun 2017 19:44:13
Still won't work . Horford, Blake, Hayward and JJ puts you over the cap. Just them 4 alone. Would be nice if only the cap were 130 million.

16 Jun 2017 16:45:08
It's either Griffin or Hayward. Can't be both. Personally, I would love to see them sign Griffin and trade bodies and picks (not this year's #1 pick ) for Butler.

15 Jun 2017 03:27:51
Knicks Get: Jamal Crawford, Austin Rivers, 2021 1st round pick

Clippers Get: Carmelo Anthony


Knicks would obviously like to see a larger return, perhaps a deal involving Jae Crowder from Boston, but Anthony's trade value is being grossly overrated. Phil should be happy to get Austin Rivers, Jamal Crawford's expiring contract (team option for 18-19) and a future 1st round pick

15 Jun 2017 07:11:33
Knicks will keep him for that crap offer. Will Jackson be there to make selection in 2021? If Knicks don't get at least 1st rounder this year or next, they will keep him. Someone who can start-maybe. Not 2 guys who will be out of league before Melo.

15 Jun 2017 14:53:21
It all depends on what Phil thinks of Rivers. I don't see it, but there seems to be a lot of people out there who really think Rivers is a good player. If Phil thinks he can fit as a triangle PG, he might jump at that. That way he's not locked into the PG position at #8, and can play it as it comes. Crawford can still score too, and might be able to fill that Jordan/ Kobe volume scorer role from the SG spot. And before anyone blasts me, I'm not in any way, shape or form saying that Crawford is in the same stratosphere as those two guys, just that he can be implemented in the same way at a much lower level.

14 Jun 2017 02:12:44
Celtics get Jordan Butler sign Griffin
Bulls get 1st 8th Noah Ndour
Knicks get Crowder Bradley 16th
Clippers get Lopez Melo 3 Celtics 2nd

Crawford Rivers W.Johnson for Wade Grant Canaan

2nd power team in west LeBron takes less to beat Warriors than Celtics
CP3/Grant/Canaan
Wade/MLE/2nd
Melo/Moute/2nd
LeBron/B.Johnson/2nd
Lopez/Speights/Stone

Rebuild with great backcourt
Fultz-1st/Rivers/Payne
Fox-8th/Crawford/Thornwell-38
Valentine/W.Johnson/Zipser
Portis/Mirotic/Felicio
O'Quinn/Noah/Lauvaergne

Best team in East
Thomas/Rozier/Jackson
Brown/Smart/Thorton
Butler/Green/Nadar
Griffin/Horford/Yabusele/Mickey
Jordan/Horford/Zizic

Evan Turner 28th for cap space Bradley EXT 20 mil per season

Great defensive team 50 wins
Turner/Mitchell-16/Randle
Bradley/Lee/Dotson-58th
Crowder/Thomas/Kuzminkas
Porzingis/J.Bell-28/Inglis
Hernangomez/Pasecniks-44th/Plumlee

14 Jun 2017 08:34:54
There is this thing called a salary cap. Celtics could hardly afford getting Jordan and Butler in a trade let alone sign Griffin to his 25+ mill per year max contract afterward when they have no cap space.

Other than that I think the trade works out nicely for all the teams involved. As far as other moves Lebron is under contract next season so he can't sign with Clippers for cheap (doubt he would anyway) . As much as he may want to play with his "friends" that team would be worse than current Cavs with even worse depth so I don't see Lebron sacrificing a chance at more rings and his legacy to play with his buddies.

Also, zero chance Fox lasts until #8 pick. He could go as high as #2 and I don't see a scenario where he makes it past Kings at #5.

14 Jun 2017 17:01:53
I'm all about that if you're getting Griffin at the vet minimum, but the money just doesn't work. There's also not much point in bringing in Griffin AND Jordan since you're then putting a maxed out Horford on the bench. That's just silly. If you were to make this trade (and there were no financials involved) you'd sign Hayward not Griffin. Then you have the IT/ Butler/ Hayward/ Horford/ Jordan lineup.

Still, either way it's not possible.

13 Jun 2017 17:45:12
In the NBA sign and trades are hard to come by. It is rare and I don't even think it is possible to include multiple players in a Sign and trade. What is most commonly found is trade exceptions and picks. With that said, Clippers 2018 super team.

This offseason, the Clippers Resign Blake and Chris Paul.

They then trade Jamal Crawford, Austin Rivers, and Wes Johnson to the Knicks for Carmelo. There could be a 3rd party involved as well for wes or jamal to go to and the knicks to get more back.

After the next season, if the clippers fail with adding Melo, they trade Blake and Deandre seperately for high draft picks, future picks, and trade exceptions to teams with cap space.

This clears the way for Lebron and Wade. They have discussed this in the past amongst those 4. What would happen is they would both agree to sign with the clippers and would discuss with the cavs and bulls sign and trade deals giving each team trade exceptions and future 2nd round picks.

They would then have their big 4 of Lebron, Wade, Paul, and Melo and have young talent, future draft picks, and minimum contract guys to fill out the roster.

13 Jun 2017 22:27:18
Yes that's best case scenario for Clippers. They'll be in a world of trouble if Paul and/ or Griffin leave.

14 Jun 2017 00:50:11
Knicks not helping clippers unless it for griffin

Wade for Crawford Rivers Johnson make more sense.

12 Jun 2017 15:21:37
i looked at Clippers salary situation and it ain't look so bad
-> IF CP3 and Griffin only sign for 1year contracts, in 2018 also Jordan and Rivers could opt out. Only 2 guaranteed contracts would be left: Crawford 14.5m and W.Johnson 6.5m

So Clippers could easily sign another major FA like LeBron or Wade (or both if they take half)

2017:
- sign CP3 and Griffin for 1y max
- buy 1-2 x 2nd round pick 76ers
- resign Mbah, let Reddick & Speights walk
- sign FA for only 1y

2018:
- trade W.Johnson for further cap relief
- sign LeBron(20), Wade(20), fill the roster via FA signings (veterans) and draft
- resign Griffin for 4y near max contract, CP3 3y 90m

roster:
CP3/XXX/Rivers
Wade/Crawford/Rivers
LeBron/Mbah/Draft
Griffin/XXX/B.Johnson
Jordan/XXX/Stone
- SHOWTIME CLIPPERS

12 Jun 2017 15:42:27
Griffin and Paul are opting out.

12 Jun 2017 15:52:29
Paul and Griffin 1 yr contracts. Too funny.

Clippers are better off blowing up the team and CP3 going to a contender and Blake to the highest bidder.

Can actually see LBJ leaving Cav's next yr. He's got a "legacy" to uphold.

12 Jun 2017 16:05:06
Paul is too old and Griffin too injury prone to opt for a 1 year deal. Its looking like Clippers are going to have to blow up the team which is bad since they don't have much young talent and have traded away a few of their future 1sts already.

I think Paul would be a great fit with Spurs, Pelicans, Jazz or Bulls if they could attract some more talent to join Butler there. Griffin I'm not certain where he'd really fit best but previously heard rumors of Lakers and his hometown OKC Thunder having interest. Thunder could make it work if they do a sign and trade centered around Kanter's contract and others to make money work.

12 Jun 2017 16:57:11
There is a lottttt more to it than you would think. Check into cap holds for their free agents. Also, Blake and CP will get max deals this offseason. DJ and rivers cannot opt out this offseason. They will be above the cap unless they renounce their rights to blake and cp and with that, they would lose a ton of money.

10 Jun 2017 14:11:44
Boston: A Drummond
trade: Bradley+ Memphis and Clippers pick

Philly: Bradley+ T Harris
trade: 3rd+ Henderson

Detroit: Zeller+ G Henderson+3rd pick+ Memphis and Clippers 2019 picks
Trade: Drummond+ Harris

10 Jun 2017 14:21:54
Philly doesn't trade # 3 for an upcoming FA like Bradley. If they could get a long term commitment from him, it would be more reasonable.

10 Jun 2017 15:54:39
I agree Triangle, Bradley's knows this is a business and now having the taste of winning he can go to whomever he wants. I'm sure top teams would love his services. With that being said, Philly could become a winning team, they do have the pieces to be one. They just need veteran leadership and lots of luck on being healthy enough to archive it, might a couple of years but it's possible. They'd be drafting a guard anyway.

Boston would be in a difficult position. If they do want to sign Hayward then taking Drummond would make it hard for that to happen, his cap hit would change taking Hayward. They would have to go hard and pay dearly for Butler without giving up Crowder, or put Brown right into the starting rotation and hope he flourishes. And still be way over the cap and have no bench, just D-leaguers .

10 Jun 2017 17:58:10
You are not even close to valuing #3 draft pick in a loaded draft.

09 Jun 2017 20:36:33
Cavs off-season

Sign and trade for Paul

Minnesota gets shumpert

Cleveland gets Paul

The Clippers get JR Smith, a protected 2018 1st from Minn, 2021 1st from Cle, swaps in 20 and 22, and Felder

2nd trade

Cavs get George

Indy gets Irving

Resign Korver and Deron Williams

Try to sign Bogut and Allen

Go after Wade if he becomes a free agent and Bosh if he could potentially come back

09 Jun 2017 21:41:20
Not enough salary going out from cleveland to obtain paul. also, you cannot have a 3 team trade for sign and trade, let along multiples of players.

09 Jun 2017 22:10:36
1st trade is classic homer trade. Rather have Irving than George.

09 Jun 2017 22:44:45
Don't think you can do 3 team sign and trades.

Minnesota's 2018 1st already goes to Atlanta.

And no way Clippers make that deal.

10 Jun 2017 00:41:13
Clippers don't want JR if CP3 is leaving, they'll be blowing up the team.

And Minny doesn't want Shumpert.

I mentioned yesterday sign CP3 and trading Kyrie and Thompson. Cleveland is so far in the hole that they need to stay up or over threshold to stay title contenders. Because James runs that show.

Jaw. I hear what your saying about Love having more trade value than Thompson but Love is a better rebounder than TT, I know TT is a better blocker but I'd keep Love over TT any day. TT is only there because James made that deal happen, otherwise Griffin would have let him go. If CP wants to truly win he'll take less than max on a 2 yr. deal which would lower their cap significantly with Kyrie and TT gone. Cleveland has no future with James calling the shots if they lose, which they will tonight.

10 Jun 2017 02:00:58
In a sign and trade, the Clippers would be looking at losing Paul for nothing, which is a fairly realistic scenario. The Teolves actually wanted Shump at the deadline according to a few major sports news outlets. I wasn't sure if you could bring in a third team or not, but I do know that you can trade multiple players on the receiving side. I don't think the Clippers would want JR, but to receive the picks they would have to take him on. I think at the deadline they could dump his salary without giving anything else up. I also think Paul would take less to go to a chance to win the title. The Cavs could take on around 25 million in the deal. Which is fairly close to Paul's max in free agency if he doesn't sign with the Clippers.

Irving for Paul just doesn't make sense for the Cavs Billj. It's a huge overpay if it's a sign and trade and doesn't really make the Cavs much better.

10 Jun 2017 07:16:13
rk. I didn't disagree you.

Paul wants to play with LeBron, and although Kyrie Will light a team up with pts, CP3 distributes the ball better to open up the floor better, can score of the dribble and dish out the dimes. Just my opinion. It wouldn't be a sign and trade, Cleveland would most likely trade Irving for picks and player (s) and get a better return and just sign CP3. Cav's need to get younger.

13 Jun 2017 16:08:16
Trade Love and TT to Boston for Olknick, Bradley, and Smart

Also Trade Irving, and JR to Pacers for PG 13 and Robinson.

09 Jun 2017 07:41:41
Kings-Lakers-Clippers

Kings get 2nd pick & L.Deng
* they can draft whoever they want outside of Fultz, if they prefer Fox so be it but Ball is better

Ball
Hield
Deng
Labisierre
Cauley-Stein

Lakers get 10th pick , D.Jordan & A.Afflalo

Russell
Afflalo
Ingram
Nance
Jordan

Clippers get T.Mozgov , 5th pick , J.Randle & J.Clarkson

Clarkson
Rivers
Tatum
Randle
Mozgov

09 Jun 2017 08:18:56
No from SAC and the clippers.
To get JJ sending #5,10 and afflalo + deng is too much (most of you also think #5 and #10 is too much for #3 for the same player)
Clippers.

09 Jun 2017 12:49:19
Fair trade.

10 Jun 2017 04:49:19
No from the Lakers side as well. It would be great to salary dump those 2 contracts but at the expense of Randle, Clarkson, and the #2 pic (who won't be Ball as they are already loaded with guys who don't play D) but very well could be J Jackson or D Fox and get a top rim protector who can't shoot and is paid way too much and the #10 pic who probably won't have much of an impact as a rookie and that will help draw big FA's in 2018 how? Jordan has Griffin and CP3 playing along side if him and they're still only a 4/ 5 seed come post season play. With no 1st rd pic next year LA isn't going to want to part ways with the assets they do have without getting a star player in return, which the big fella is not.

 
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