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21 Jun 2018 07:34:45
Atlanta Hawks offseason moves


-Trade Dennis Schroeder, #30 pick, and #34 pick to Clippers for Patrick Beverley, Boban Marjanovic, and #13 pick

•Draft-
3: Luka Doncic
13: Miles Bridges
19: Aaron Holiday

-Waive Boban Marjanovic, Isaiah Taylor, Antonius Cleveland, and Jaylen Moore

-Sign Alex Len 3yr 17m
-Sign Michael Beasley 1yr 4m
-Re-sign Damion Lee 2yr 4m

Lineup:
Pg. Beverley, Holiday, Dorsey
Sg. Doncic, Bazemore, Lee
Sf. Prince, Bridges, Bembry
Pf. Collins, Beasley, Muscala
C. Dedmon, Len, Plumlee.

20 Jun 2018 20:10:40
3 team trade suns, clippers, and 76ers suns brandon knight to clippers then Austin rivers to 76ers then jerryd Bayless to the suns

20 Jun 2018 20:27:23
Sixers definitely not interested.

20 Jun 2018 17:13:58
3 Team deal

To SAS - Harris, Beverley, pick 13

To LAC - Leonard, picks 18 and 19

To ATL - Gasol, pick 12

Spurs get quality players, move up five picks in the draft and unburden themselves of Gasol’s deal.

Atlanta has stated that they would like to move into the lottery a second time, which they accomplish by dealing pick 19 and take on Gasol’s deal.

Clips get Kawhi while also keeping two picks in the draft.

20 Jun 2018 17:31:00
I can't see that being enough for Leonard.

20 Jun 2018 18:04:27
So Clippers take Leonard and retain two mid high picks? Too good for them.

20 Jun 2018 18:09:51
i don't think taking gasol merits moving up 7 spots. and this is just not enough for kawhi.

20 Jun 2018 15:18:00
Hawks - Clippers

Clipper Recieve: Schroeder + 30th pick 2018

Hawks Recieve: 12th Pick 2018 + Teodosic + Clippers 2019 2nd (Top 55 protected)

Hawks Draft:
3rd - Doncic (assuming Bagley goes 2nd)
12th - Sexton or Alexander
16th - Miles Bridges

20 Jun 2018 15:49:27
I don't think that the clippers want to take on his contract. They would be losing cap space for next offseason. They could keep #12 and possibly get Sexton or SGA and pay them a fraction of Schroeder's cost for the next 4-5 years.

20 Jun 2018 15:52:25
Hawks have 19th and Bridges will be gone in the lottery anyway.

20 Jun 2018 17:39:39
Teodosic would have to be a sign and trade, and teodosic would have to agree to not go to Europe. I'd guess clippers keep him or let him go back home.

20 Jun 2018 18:14:47
schroeder not worth 12, best hawks can prob get is a late 1st and role players.

18 Jun 2018 11:44:02
DET-SAS-LAC

DET: 12th pick + 13th pick + 18th pick + P.Gasol + D.Gallinari
- get 3 1st round picks as compensation for those bad contracts

draft Williams, Knox and Z.Smith

PG: Jackson-Smith-Thomas
SG: Galloway-Smith
SF: Bullock-Knox-Johnson
PF: Griffin-Gallinari
CE: Gasol-Williams

SAS: A.Drummond + T.Harris + L.Kennard
- get 3 young quality players

PG: Murray-Forbes-Parker
SG: Green-Kennard-Manu
SF: Harris-Gay-Anderson
PF: Aldridge-Bertans
CE: Drummond-Lauvergne

LAC: K.Leonard + P.Mills
- get a superstar

PG: Mills-Beverley-Teodosic
SG: Bradley-Williams
SF: Leonard-Dekker
PF: Johnson-Harrell
CE: Jordan-Marjanovic

18 Jun 2018 14:39:09
The clippers are being rumored to being offered either 12 or 13 and tobias. Tobias is an expiring contract. Kawhi could opt out after this year and is coming off of an injury that kept him out all season. His value is not as high as many believe. Blake got Tobias, 1 pick, boban and an expiring in bradley. Kawhi who will leave SA after this next season will get around the same or less.

18 Jun 2018 15:58:51
I read 12 + Harris and others. It'll be a bidding war between the 2 l. a. Teams if Leonard really wants out.

18 Jun 2018 15:59:00
Leonard will get more than Blake. Blake has just as many health concern as Kawhi, he never has been declining the past few years, Kawhi can fit on any team unlike Blake, there has to be real concern that Griffin won't be worth his huge contract and Kawhi is so much better than Griffin.

19 Jun 2018 14:59:56
@rkenne_16 a big difference between the 2 is the fact that leonard is a free agent after this season. who is willing to give up more to get a 1 year rental if he wants to come to LA anyway? An expiring contract who averages 19ppg and a lottery pick? I would say it's going to be tough to beat that. maybe they even throw in fillers like Dekker and thornwell.

18 Jun 2018 08:38:17
Suns: Irving+ Leonard

Boston: T Chandler+ 1st pick

Spurs:J Jackson+ Warren+Chriss+ 1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021+ 1rnd pick Clippers 2019

Suns:
Offer Cousins a 58M 2year deal, with a team option for a third year. (force NO to give him a big contract)
Offer C Capella a 80M 4y deal (force Houston to match this)
Offer D Jordan a 75M 3 year deal and sign him.
Offer Ilyasova a 30M 2y deal

C: D Jordan
PF: Ilyasova/ Bender
Sf: Leonard
SG: Booker
PG: Irving

18 Jun 2018 14:25:52
This one is actually very interesting. It completely re-shapes the Suns into a win now group with some serious pieces. You mix some crazy scoring in the backcourt with solid defense on the interior.

The Spurs are going full rebuild here, but they get back a lot of interesting pieces. I think they would push for one of the other picks from Boston instead of the Clippers pick though. That one has a really good chance of just becoming a couple of second rounders. I don't think they get Sacramento out of this, but they should be able to get the Memphis pick here.

For Boston, it really all depends on three things. Do they have someone they're in love with at the top again this year? Do they think Kyrie is planning on leaving? Do they think Rozier in the playoffs is sustainable?

In this case, I would think that they would draft Ayton at the top, and allow him to backup right away. You wouldn't be able to bring back Baynes, but Chandler should be able to do most of what he brought.

I feel like you're left with:

Rozier/ Smart/ Draft?
Hayward/ Brown/ Nader
Tatum/ Morris/ Semi
Horford/ Theiss/ Yabusele
Chandler/ Ayton

If you're thinking Kyrie is gone and that Rozier is capable of being the full time guy, this is a stacked, young roster that can compete for a long time. Horford and Chandler are also the perfect guys to teach a kid like Ayton. Between the two of them, he can learn every possible aspect of styles on the offensive and defensive end, and the work ethic of Tatum and Brown will hopefully be infectious.

18 Jun 2018 15:32:52
They should trow in the Memphis pick indeed, if Irving wants out.

19 Jun 2018 15:47:04
No one, especially Kyrie, says he wants “out”. You’re not paying attention or reading with comprehension. The concern is for after NEXT year and signing long-term.

18 Jun 2018 03:03:43
Bulls trade clippers

Clippers get lopez.valentine and #22 pick

Bulls get gallinari and #13 pick

18 Jun 2018 11:31:08
Why for clippers?

18 Jun 2018 19:49:56
Clippers owe too much money to make any moves gallanari is owed 42 mil next 2 years.

18 Jun 2018 01:45:57
Bulls trade clippers

Clippers get lopez,valentine and #22pick

Bulls get gallinari and #13 pick

17 Jun 2018 02:30:24
Lonzo, Deng, and #25

For

DeAndre Jordan

Lakers clear Deng’s contract and get DJ’s expiring

Clippers get starting point guard of the future and Lonzo gets to stay in LA. DJ is looking to move.

17 Jun 2018 05:57:22
Probably add hart and it's a done deal.

16 Jun 2018 20:06:49
Kemba Walker trades

Cavs get - Walker and Howard
Hornets get - 8th pick Clarkson Osman Thompson and Nance Jr

Walker/Smith/James/Love/Howard
Clarkson/Monk/Mik Bridges/Williams/Frank

Hornets get - Mudiay Lee and 9th pick
Knicks get - Walker

Walker/Ntikilina/THJ/Porzingis/Kanter
Sexton/Monk/Lee/Williams/Howard

Nuggets get - Walker
Hornets get - Murray Faried and 14th pick

Walker/Harris/Barton/Milsap/Jokic
Murray/Monk/Knox/Williams/Howard

Clippers get - Walker
Hornets get - Teodosic Marjanovic 12&13 picks

Walker/Bradley/Gallo/Harris/Jordan
G-Alexander/Monk/Knox/Williams/Howard

16 Jun 2018 20:48:19
i could see the knicks trade, nuggets seems close.

16 Jun 2018 20:55:49
Walker wants ny, they wait for 2019 fa signing to see if want irving or walker.

Knicks get Howard Melo Abrines
Thunder get Batum Zeller
Hornets get Kanter Hardaway Noah

Lee and Thomas for Faried Arthur

Mudiay/ Burke/ Jack
Ntilikina/ Dotson/ Baker
Batum/ Diop-36/ T. Williams
Beasley/ Faried/ Arthur
Howard/ Carter-8th/ Porzingis.

16 Jun 2018 21:07:38
Hahah Shizzee come on man. I'm not sure who turns that down first, the Hornets or the Thunder. Why would either team want to take those contracts. Melo and Howard are expiring, why trade them for players signed multiple years that don't help you?

16 Jun 2018 15:13:37
The Cavs get Parsons, Harrison, the 4th pick via Memphis, the 12th pick via LA, the 19th pick via Atl and the 34th pick via Atl

The Grizzlies get Love, Korver, Zizic, and the 30th pick via Atl

The Clippers get the 8th pick via Cleveland

The Hawks get the 13th pick via LA

16 Jun 2018 16:01:42
The clippers will not bail out bottom feeding cavs next yr. Enjoy ecf finals title this summer.

16 Jun 2018 06:46:14
Blazers: Lillard

LAC: Harris, beverly,12, 13, 2020 1st

17 Jun 2018 23:31:28
I just can't see the blazers trading lillard to the west.

16 Jun 2018 03:55:58
Lakers summer:

LAL-SAS-LAC

LAL: Beverley + Leonard

SAS: Ingram + Harris + 25th pick + 13th pick

LAC: Ball + Kuzma + Deng

15 Jun 2018 21:13:28
Clippers trade Tobias Harris, #12, #13, and 2021 1st rounder top 5 protected

Spurs trade Kawhi Leonard and #18

Why are the spurs including pick 18? They have to in order to get #12 and #13 due to the stepien rule. Clippers cannot trade both picks and not have a 1st this draft.
Spurs would get 2 lottery picks in this draft and tobias harris who is a 19ppg scorer on an expiring deal that could open cap room.
The clippers have leverage. If the lakers want him, they have to try to convince the spurs to take dengs terrible contract and the 24th pick with young players. any other team risks losing assets to get a 1 year rental. If clippers stand pat this offseason, they have cap room to sign kawhi straight up next season and bring him to LA.

15 Jun 2018 16:14:31
assuming doncic falls to 4

clippers get 4, dwight powell, jamychal green, barea
grizzlies get harrison barnes+tobias harris, 2022 la 1st
mavs get parsons, dekker, pick 12

clips their guy
grizz, presumedly in win-now get two nice wings.
mavs stop overvaluing barnes and swap for parsons near identical contract while adding another lottery pick.
considered 13th pick to mem, but seemed unfair. so instead the next 1st la can trade given their commitments to boston.

15 Jun 2018 16:41:49
I'd pass if I were the Mavs.

14 Jun 2018 16:00:19
Clippers - Knicks

Clippers gets:
9th pick
2019 2nd rd pick (Cavs, Magic or Rockets)
2020 2nd rd pick (Hornets)

Knicks gets:
12th pick (Pistons)
13th pick

14 Jun 2018 18:46:07
The Clippers are not trading 2 lottery picks to move up 3 spots. It's pointless.

13 Jun 2018 17:17:40
Sacramento traded Skal Labissiere,2nd pick 2018 draft to L. A Clippers for the 13 and 14th pick and for Tobias Harris.

13 Jun 2018 18:58:03
For a rebuilding sac I don't see Harris being a good move.

13 Jun 2018 19:10:34
that package not worth the 2, could maybe get 4.

13 Jun 2018 20:45:44
Harris has one year left. He needs to ho to a playoff team.

16 Jun 2018 04:00:32
Bad for Sac.

13 Jun 2018 11:53:13
MY MOCK DRAFT - Lottery Teams

1. PHX - Deandre Ayton
2. SAC - Mohammed Bamba
3. ATL - Trae Young
4. MEM - Michael Porter
5. DAL - Marvin Bagley
6. ORL - Collin Sexton
7. CHI - Luka Doncic
8. CLE - Jaren Jackson Jr.
9. NYK - Mikal Bridges
10. PHI - Zhaire Smith
11. CHA - Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
12. LAC - Miles Bridges
13. LAC - Wendell Carter
14. DEN - Kevin Knox
15. WAS - Robert Williams

13 Jun 2018 12:48:40
No way Doncic falls to number 7.

13 Jun 2018 12:49:34
And JJJ to number 8.

13 Jun 2018 13:06:31
Kings won't draft bamba, they already have someone very similar.

13 Jun 2018 13:12:53
With Doncic unwillingness to work out for teams, he could fall a bit, but I don’t see Sexton being drafted before him.

Jackson seems to be rising, not falling in the draft, he won’t last that long.

13 Jun 2018 13:45:45
my thoughts are Bamba could be seen as "raw" generational talent to some, and who's similar WCS? No way

Magic need a PG bad so that's why Sexton, most drafts have them getting Trae but Hawks seem to be high on him

Doncic i couldn't find a right fit, i think he's the 2nd most NBA ready player.


Where do you see JJJ going TBH I don't know too much about him

13 Jun 2018 15:03:36
I think #1 Ayton, #2 JJJ, #3 Bamba, #4 Bagley, #5 Porter, #6 Doncic

Or

#1 Ayton, #2 JJJ, #3 Doncic, #4 Bagley, #5 Bamba, #6 Porter

Doncic is the 2nd most NBA ready player, and can play 1-4 but may slip because he can't workout for NBa teams because he is still in playoffs. But he won't slip past 6 at most.

13 Jun 2018 16:12:24
I would say Doncic is too low, and Sexton is a bit too high, but he really is a wild card. I could see JJJ going around 8 mostly because of the talent level of the people ahead of him. On talent, it's a pretty solid lottery this season. If Doncic starts to slip like that fit won't matter though. Someone will trade up to get him.

13 Jun 2018 15:50:24
I love Jackson. He's an elite defender that can switch on tonalmost anyone without it being a big mismatch. He can do it all on that end. Think Horford, Green or Millsap on that's end. I get the Bamba hype, but If I had to put money on which one willl be the better defender I go JJJ. He's an elite shot blocker and far more versatile wing defender. On offense, he didn't put up huge numbers, but the guy is a great athlete, he can run the floor, he can finish, and he has legitimate 3 point range. He's more of a project on that end, but he can come in day one and be a great role player next to a ball dominant guy that grows in to a great offensive player. I can't see him faking farther than 5 and I think letting him slip past 3 would be a bad idea.

13 Jun 2018 16:36:10
Soxfan, I'd be giddy if Jackson fell to the Cavs. The guy has the chance to be the best bigman in this draft. He's going to be an absolute monster on the defensive end. He's an elite shot blocker that can lock guys down on the perimeter. Plus, he can come in and be a good role player on offense. He's a better shooter than any of the other bigs at the top of this draft. He's also a good finisher. You can plug him in on any playoff team and he can help them from day 1. Honestly, he's the perfect big for Boston to move up and get. He reminds me a lot of Horford.

13 Jun 2018 19:19:52
if luka somehow makes it past memphis, dallas will trade the pick, but memphis could trade out too. porter and young before bagley is absurd. same goes for jackson 8th, if he hits 5th, dallas should be taking calls.

19 Jun 2018 16:56:10
No way the Mavs let Doncic get passed them.

12 Jun 2018 02:03:30
NYK - LAC - MIL

NYK get: John Henson, Matthew Delladova, Tobias Harris, 12th Pick LAC and 13th Pick LAC

Draft: Collin Sexton and Lonnie Walker

Pg. Sexton/ Delladova
Sg. Walker/ Burke
Sf. THJ/ Thomas
Pf. Harris/ Beasley (Porzingis)
C. Kanter/ Henson

LAC get: Joakim Noah, Courtney Lee, Frank Ntilinka, Jabari Parker (s&t), 9th Pick NYK, and 17th Pick MIL

Draft: Michael Porter and Robert Williams

Pg. Ntilinka/ Rivers
Sg. Lee/ Williams
Sf. Porter/ Dekker
Pf. Parker/ Gallinari
C. Williams/ Marjonovich

MIL get: Deandre Jordan and Emanuel Mudiay

Pg. Bledsoe/ Mudiay/ Jennings
Sg. Middleton/ Brogdon
Sf. Antetekuompko/ Snell
Pf. Maker/ Wilson
C. Jordan/ Plumlee

11 Jun 2018 22:44:21
I liked the idea of James going to the clippers. So what about this s&t:

Cavs get Gallinari, Rivers, Pick 12, Pick 13 and 2020 1st rounder unprotected

Clippers get LBJ

So the Cavs can rebuild with 3 lottery picks and still can trade Love to get more.
Clippers still can resign Bradley and get a contender.

Beverly, Teodosic
Bradley, Williams
LBJ
Harris
Jordan

12 Jun 2018 03:15:00
That would leave Clippers without a 1st in 3 consecutive drafts.

 
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