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21 Jul 2017 22:14:58
Cavs Receive:
Matthew Delladova
Jabari Parker
Mirza Teletovic
Jordan Clarkson
Julius Randle
Corey Brewer
Larry Nance
Greg Monroe
Bucks 1st Rounder 2018

Bucks Receive:
Kyrie Irving
JR Smith

Lakers Receive:
Lebron James
Bucks 2019 1st Rounder

21 Jul 2017 22:30:08
So the Cavs receive 8 players for 3 so that means that they will then have 19 players under contract after this trade. Seems logical.

Oh and you also trade back to back picks. Makes total sense and is legal in the collective bargaining agreement.

21 Jul 2017 23:34:20
A lot of players getting received. Who getting cut?

22 Jul 2017 00:52:50
I think Bucks would need to include better pieces alongside Parker like Maker or Brogdon or someone to make it work for Cavs. No idea what Lebrons value is on a 1 year rental but I'm sure most teams in the NBA would be willing to give up more than the Lakers are here for just a year of Lebron. I think Ingram or Ball would need to be included in order to start the convo.

18 Jul 2017 15:41:25
Nets Randle Deng future 2nd rd pick

Lakers Cap

Nets get Randle takes Deng contract since they missed out on free agents


18 Jul 2017 16:42:27
If it took Russell to get rid of Mozgov it'll take significantly more to move Deng. Russell is a better prospect than Randle as he can play either guard position where Randle is an old-fashioned offensive big man that doesn't have prototypical center size. Randle is also entering the final year of his contract and will get a significant pay raise in RFA. Deng's contract is also bigger than Mozgov's and Deng is older.

18 Jul 2017 23:22:54
Well that's not entirely true

It took Russell to get rid of Mozgov, but they also got back B Lopez and #27 pick. Let's not pretend BKN didn't give up any assets in that trade.

In this scenario, they give up nothing except cap space. However, they only have $16.5M in cap space and can't take Deng and Randle w/ out sending a player marking at least $5M.

15 Jul 2017 20:13:53
Celtics are the clear favorites to land Anthony Davis if the Pelicans decide to trade him. It all depends on this season. If the Boogie-AD project didn't work, the Pels will look to trade him and Rebuild. Davis is also a big fan of Gordon Hayward.


Celtics get: Anthony Davis

Pelicans get: Jaylon Brown, Marcus Smart, Marcus Morris and Aaron Baynes + 18 Nets Pick, 18Lakers/19 Sac Pick and 19 Grizzlies Pick.

15 Jul 2017 21:19:26
Why is it that Celtics fans live in a 24 hour Fantasy land?

15 Jul 2017 22:35:50
Yes, the C's have the resources to get him, no, the Pels aren't dealing him.

16 Jul 2017 02:38:55
So the. They don't have the resources to get him.

16 Jul 2017 05:25:24
Even though we have the assets to trade for him, it would mean we would have no bench and deplete our stash of picks. Plus even if the AD, Cousins pairing doesn't work I doubt AD is the one that will get moved, AD is a better all around player but he is the face of that team. I am a Celtics fan and don't get me wrong I would love to have Davis on the team but I think it would take a lot and it probably wouldn't be worth it to trade for him, even if he became available.

16 Jul 2017 13:21:37
I'm a Celtics fan. that's unrealistic. The only way Davis gets moved is if he asks, and I just don't see that. If anything, you should be looking at a trade for Cousins. which IS actually something that could happen, and he could be had for a much lesser package. The Brooklyn 1st and salary would likely be able to get it done at that point, as it would still be an upgrade from what they sent out to get him. He'd be on his last year however, and you'd have to throw him into the mix of guys needing to get paid next season.

16 Jul 2017 13:28:17
You'd have to think it would be Crowder, Morris (can't be traded until September, but NO will try the twin tower experiment at least that long) and Smart as the pieces heading to NO. Does a starting lineup of IT, Brown, Hayward, Horford and Cousins have what it takes to win it all this year? Your bench would be Rozier, Baynes and mostly rookies, which does come into play.

17 Jul 2017 16:07:24
@Hamburger It is not that they do not have resources. But unless you are in total rebuild you do not trade a handful of pieces for a Superstar. Pels did not bring Cousins in to enter a rebuild phase.

15 Jul 2017 04:05:37

SAS- young/ clarkson/ randle
LAL- aldrigde/ murray/ forbes/ rights for adam hanga
lakers clear cap space for big name free agent next seasonv
IND- deng/ white/ spurs lakers 2rd pick

spurs green with mason plumlee s&t 12.5m/ yr
sign gasol 7m/ yr tony allen 1 yr 4m ginobili vet min

line up
pg. clarkson/ mills/ parker
sg. allen/ ginobili/ paul
sf. leonard/ gay/ anderson
pf. young/ randle/ bertans
c. gasol/ plumlee/ lauvangne.

14 Jul 2017 13:13:23
Boston; Trade deadline moves if the Lakers pick looks like it will be outside the top 5.
IT(S&T) to Clips for Beverly and removal of protection of 2019 pick.
It works on the trade machine but not sure what ITs free agency would do to his value. Would this work? Opinions!?

14 Jul 2017 15:46:54
The trade-Thomas train left town when Boston swapped Fultz for Tatum. If they were going to move IT, Fultz would have been the replacement.

14 Jul 2017 16:15:29
What does the Lakers pick falling out of top 5 have to do with keeping IT? And I personally think that with IT on the Clippers that the protection would be worthless.

14 Jul 2017 21:15:07
I don't think trading IT at the deadline is unrealistic. If DA can find a deal that will benefit the C's this year at the deadline and in the future he wouldn't think twice about moving him. And on the flip side I think that at the deadline Jae Crowder could be flipped, he contract is a bargain and appealing to other teams, probably the reason why they kept him instead of AB.

15 Jul 2017 08:41:46
Taking the protection off the pick increases the value of it as a trade chip for Boston. Clips may be willing to do that instead of adding another pick to even the trade value. I don't think Boston is going to back up the Brinks truck and give IT a MAX contract.

17 Jul 2017 14:10:59
I hope Milos Teodosic will succeed in LA, but this is a great trade for LA.

I don't like this for Boston.
The Clippers will make the playoffs, so dropping the protection isn't a bigg deal.
I would keep IT unless they receive another superstar. I don't understand why Boston fans want to trade him.

08 Jul 2017 18:26:32
LA Lakers Moves

LAKERS get Jared Dudley and Marco Bellinelli
SUNS get Julius Randle, Luol Deng, and a 2nd rd pick (via Lakers)
HAWKS get Brandon Knight

-Sign Kentavious Caldwell-Pope 1yr max
-Sign Dante Cunningham 1yr 4m

PG: Ball, Clarkson, Nwaba
SG: Pope, Bellinelli, Hart
SF: Ingram, Dudley, Brewer
PF: Nance, Cunningham, Kuzma
C: Lopez, Zubac, Bryant.

08 Jul 2017 19:17:32
Suns don't need. Randle Deng and lotto protect 1st for wade.

08 Jul 2017 19:28:19
Dudley's contract is a lot better than Deng's with only 2 yr left and a manageable 9 mill in 2018 (could deal him as an expiring contract then too) . Although Randle is a FA next year Lakers could potentially use him as a trade chip via s and T to add talent over the cap (with his bird rights meaning they could add a player equal to however much Randle gets which should be a decent amount) . Regardless Lakers essentially get rid of Deng's contract and Dudley turns into a trade chip as an expiring contract in 2018 offseason so very good trade for Lakers.

For the Suns not sure how interested they'd be in this move since they'd be locking up a lot of money with not only Deng but Randle (I'm assuming if they were to do this trade they'd be willing to pay him in RFA) . Also, there pf spot is already kinda of crowded with young prospects like Chriss, Bender and Williams so not sure how keen they are to add another guy who doesn't have as high a ceiling as some of those guys.

For the Hawks they need to add talent and Brandon Knight is relatively young and has shown flashes in the past so I think it would be a smart gamble especially with them having plenty of cap space.

08 Jul 2017 19:35:45
I don't understand why KCP would want to sign a 1 year deal with the Lakers when he could sign a longer term deal and get close to the max (look at what THJ was offered) from any of the bad teams with cap space with him being relatively young and a potential 3 and D guy. I don't see him being a part of Lakers long term plans either so not sure why they'd waste a year with him. They'd be better off paying an older guy they overpay this year then next year takes a discount to stick around.

08 Jul 2017 20:29:35
This trade is laughable to the Suns. So let me get this straight, the suns are trading Knight and Dudley, and get back Randle, Deng and his $51 million owned over 3 years, and a 2nd rounder? So knight and Dudley for Randle probably is fair trade value. So, the Suns big payout for taking on Dengs $51 million is a 2nd rounder. Like I said, this trade is laughable for Phoenix.

06 Jul 2017 21:34:26
Boston - Jazz

With Boston trying to get Gobert too in the Hayward s&t

Boston : Hayward, Gobert, Diaw

Utah : Olynik, Smart, Tatum, Nets 2018, Lakers 2018

06 Jul 2017 23:33:28
They already have Hayward, and Diaw is just about cooked, so it's basically Smart and three top-5 lottery picks for Gobert. Not going to happen. Smart, the Lakers pick and another non-lottery No. 1, maybe. But not as constructed above.

07 Jul 2017 00:47:11
But they don't have Hayward unless they get rid of salary.

07 Jul 2017 00:52:29
Olynyk is heading to Miami.

07 Jul 2017 09:42:20
Can't legally do sign and trades like this it would have to be two separate trades. Even after getting Hayward Celtics could still use a big man and Gobert would be a great fit. However, I don't like how much they are giving up here since Hayward is essentially free (they could trade Smart to another team for a draft pick then just sign Hayward) so Tatum, Nets 2018 and Lakers/ Griz pick is too much for my taste.

07 Jul 2017 12:22:34
As a Celtics fan I would love to get the Hayward and Gobert, but considering he just signed a big money extension they would need to clear even more cap space. Plus there is no way they give up Taytum or the Nets pick. The Celtics have either completed their puzzle or are a piece away from doing so. They should keep their 2 (most likely) lottery picks and go after guys like Donich who is an amazing international SG who can replace Bradley and the other pick on Ayton who is a big talented center who would allow Horford to move back to PF.

A lineup of

With Smart (resign) Rozier, Brown Taytum, Zizic and other off the bench seems scary to me, maybe even scary than this years team.

Plus this is assuming that Crowder gets sent to the Jazz for Hayward, but If they can do the trade without him and without giving up any of the players listed above then just add him to the bench next year and the team will be so much deeper and scarier.

What do you guys think?

06 Jul 2017 16:26:52
Boston Celtics Moves

-Trade Avery Bradley and a 2nd rd pick to LAL for Julius Randle

-Trade Marcus Smart to NYK for Kyle O'Quinn

-Waive Demetrius Jackson and Jordan Mickey

-Sign Tony Allen 1yr 3m
-Bring up Abdel Nadar
-Sign Beno Udrih 1yr minimum
-Sign Anthony Tolliver 1yr minimum

PG: Thomas, Rozier, Udrih
SG: Hayward, Brown, Allen
SF: Crowder, Tatum, Nadar
PF: Randle, O'Quinn, Tolliver
C: Horford, Zizic, Theis.

06 Jul 2017 17:24:54
Not biggest fan of first move for either teams. For Lakers Bradley will likely demand over 20 mill per year in unrestricted FA so not sure Lakers would want to go for that considering they have dreams of getting better players. Randle will demand similar money but in restricted FA they have more control and can more easily involve him in a sign and trade since they have leverage to match any deal (can use bird rights to sign him even if they don't have cap space after other moves) .

For Celtics Randle would give them rebounding but would still be expensive for them to retain. I think they'd be better off dealing Bradley for a draft pick and then signing a veteran like Tony Allen or Sefolosha to replace some of his production in short term.

I think Celtics could do better than Smart for Oquinn, that would be a steal for the Knicks. Oquinn is a good fit in Boston but I think they could get more value.

06 Jul 2017 03:38:14
Porzingis Blockbuster
Celtics receive:
F Kristaps Porzingis

Knicks receive:
F Jae Crowder
F Jaylen Brown
18' Nets 1st (unprotected)
19' Grizzlies 1st (protected)
19' Clippers 1st (protected)
18' Lakers 1st or 19' Kings 1st (protected)

Celtics with Porzingis
PG Isaiah Thomas / Terry Rozier
SG Avery Bradley / Marcus Smart
SF Gordon Hayward /Jayson Tatum
PF Al Horford / Guershan Yabusele
C Kristaps Porzingis / Ante Zizic

Carmelo Blockbuster
Rockets receive:
F Carmelo Anthony

Suns receive:
F Ryan Anderson
20' Rockets 1st (protected)
22' Rockets 1st (protected)

Knicks receive:
G Brandon Knight
F Jared Dudley
C Alan Williams (sign-and-trade)

Stretch and waive Joakim Noah's contract

Knicks Post Melo and KP
PG Frank Ntilinka / Brandon Knight
SG Courtney Lee / Ron Baker
SF Jaylen Brown / Jared Dudley
PF Jae Crowder / Kyle O'Quinn
C Willy Hernangomez/Alan Williams

Start with this roster into next season. Eventually move Lee for a late first. Get a second rounder for Kyle O'Quinn. See if anybody wants Lance Thomas. Would be hesitant to move Crowder because of his contract but if a team offers two firsts, take it. Bottom out. Get the two top picks in the upcoming draft with yours and Brooklyn's and just redraft this whole ship. Jaylen Brown has a good chance to be an All-Star and then get some more via the draft. Probably be relevant again in 2020. It's better than watching the Knicks win 32 games with Melo and KP on the roster.

06 Jul 2017 05:28:56
I'm high on Porzingis, but that offer seems like to much. Also, if I'm the Knicks, I take the picks and swallow Anderson's contract. They could feature him early on and possibly get rid of him around the deadline. He's a solid player and his contract isn't ridiculously bad.

05 Jul 2017 20:20:52
Celtics - Knicks - Rockets

Knicks Send - Kristaps Porzingis, Carmelo Anthony, Joakim Noah
Knicks Receive - Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, Jordan Mickey, 2018 Brooklyn 1st Round Pick, 2018 Lakers Pick if Lakers land 2-5, otherwise 2019 Kings Pick, Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza, 2020 Houston 1st Round Pick, 2018 Indiana Second Round Pick

Knicks dump Joakim Noah's salary and get an overpayment for Melo and Kristaps. They get a lot of future picks for a potential rebuild but haven't hit the rebuild button yet, might need to make a few more trades for young players, but with all the assets they have recieved they should be fine making this trade.

Celtics Send - Jae Crowder, Marcus Smart, Jordan Mickey, 2018 Nets 1st Round Pick, 2018 Lakers Pick if Lakers land 2-5, otherwise 2019 Kings Pick
Celtics Receive - Kristaps Porzingis

Celtics possibly overpay for Porzingis but they are able to get rid of Crowder, paving the way for Hayward and Tatum while getting rid of Smart and Mickey's contracts in order to sign Hayward. They get another young star who can help them take down Lebron in the east, and they keep assets like Tatum and Brown who they can potentially use later to trade for another star player.

Houston Send - Eric Gordon, Trevor Ariza, 2019 Houston 1st Round Pick, 2020 Houston 1st Round Pick
Houston Recieve - Carmelo Anthony

Houston become a bigger threat in the west with this trade. They may lack depth, but their starting lineup will be one of the best in the league, and it will most likely translate to more wins. The Rockets have expressed interest in Anthony and he has said he will waive his no trade clause if he gets traded to Houston or Cleveland.

Brooklyn send - 2018 Indiana Second Round Pick
Brooklyn Recieve - 2019 Houston 1st Round Pick, Joakim Noah

Brooklyn sends relatively nothing in exchange for a Joakim Noah salary dump and a late first round pick in 2019. The Nets won't mind taking on a salary at the moment as they have lots of cap, and Noah can step into the starting center position now that Lopez is gone, much needed by the Nets.

05 Jul 2017 22:00:47
Porzingis trade isn't bad, but I don't see Ainge being willing to part with that much (I'd argue KP is worth it) . If the Knicks could get that it might be worth it.

The Rockets can't trade back to back picks so it would have to be the 2020 and 2022 picks since they already trade the 18 and I don't see them including Gordon. It would have to be Anderson.

Noah's contract is terrible and I don't see anyone taking it on for a pick like Houston's. It would have to be a pick with lottery potential.

06 Jul 2017 11:36:07
yeah but remember it is the Nets, and they could do with Noah as a backup for Jarrett Allen. Maybe Knicks send the Nets a pick too.

05 Jul 2017 17:41:51
HEATs offeason
Heat : clarkson, randle
lakers : dragic, green
grizzlies : babbitt, robinson

- sign rudy gay and grievis vasquez
- resign j johnson, waiters, haslem, ellington
- let reed walk and stretch mcroberts

clarkson/t johnson/vasquez
randle/j johnson/white

05 Jul 2017 19:53:52
Doesn't make sense for Lakers who aren't looking to add salary past this season since they have Lebron pipe dreams.

05 Jul 2017 17:40:54
Boston trades Memphis

Boston get gasol

Memphis gets j.brown,olynyk,and Lakers 1rst round pick 2018

05 Jul 2017 18:06:10
It would be a nice move for Boston, but the money doesn't work after the Hayward signing and I think Gasol is a little old for Boston.

05 Jul 2017 19:56:46
It'll be tough for Boston to make room for Gasol's 22mill contract especially considering they still don't even have room for Haywards contract. He is kinda old at 32 but I think he could be a solid pickup. Celtics would likely have to part with Horford if they seriously wanted Gasol. Also I'm sure Memphis would want their 2019 pick back from Celtics in a move like this.

05 Jul 2017 04:01:35

THUNDER get J.Randle

G Westbrook-Christon
G Roberson-Abrines
F George-J.Grant
F Randle-Patterson
C Adams-Kanter

LAKERS get future 1st round pick (protected) , K.Singler & D.McDermott

G Ball-Clarkson
G Crawford (buyout)-McDermott-Singler
F Ingram-Deng
F L.Nance-T.Black
C B.Lopez-I.Zubac

05 Jul 2017 11:51:24
I don't really see the need for this on LA's side. They're giving up a valuable asset in Julius Randle for three assets that will all most likely never pan out.

04 Jul 2017 17:59:30
Indiana - lakers

Indiana trade Ellis

Lakers trade clarkson

Indiana get a potential starter. Him and collison can battle it out.

Lakers get a replacement for young. Josh Hart and Corey brewer are there only SG.

04 Jul 2017 18:39:07
Lakers say no.

04 Jul 2017 18:52:57
Ellis isn't worth his contract. The Lakers are giving up the better and younger player.

03 Jul 2017 18:55:59
Some LA Laker salary dump trades to clear cap space for 2018 offseason

•1. Lakers-Bulls
Lakers get Dwyane Wade
Bulls get Luol Deng and Julius Randle

•2. Lakers-Pacers
Lakers get Monta Ellis
Pacers get Luol Deng and Jordan Clarkson

•3. Lakers-Kings
Lakers get Garrett Temple
Kings get Luol Deng and Julius Randle.

03 Jul 2017 19:13:21
Every team says NO. Clarkson, as reported by many, has very little value. Randle is decent offense, no defense. Nobody is taking on 3 years of Dengs contract for either of those 2 guys. Just not going to happen. Wishful Laker thinking.

03 Jul 2017 19:17:08
Okay Wade is going to leave either way
And Ellis or Temple have value?

03 Jul 2017 20:03:37
The issue isn't ellis's or temples value. Its the NEGATIVE value of Dengs 51 million owed for 3 YEARS. don't know what your not seein here. Its a bad move for all teams but the lakers. Pretty simple. Not going to happen.

03 Jul 2017 20:24:27
Yeah, Wade will leave and they'll have cap space. Deng is signed for 3 more years. Maybe they can find a taker in a deal similar to what you proposed, but it would take someone being fairly high on Randle or Clarkson. They both have some value, but neither seems like a player that could ever start on a championship level team and between the Deng and Randle being resigned or Clarkson's contract a team would have to be willing to commit a 3rd of their soft cap for the next few years to acquire one of them.

03 Jul 2017 13:42:07
Lakers 2017

Rondo 1y 20m

Waiters 1y 20m

Ball Rondo
Waiters Clarkson
Ingram Deng
Randle Nance Jr
Lopez Zubac

03 Jul 2017 14:08:06
Cali916: I think either Rondo or Waiters at 20mill for 1 yr works. I think Lakers would want to lrave more cap flexibility this year i'm case something comes up at the trade deadline. But as a sixer fan, I like your ideas. Puts Lakers in that 6-12 range, meaning we keep LAs pick next year.

03 Jul 2017 12:13:48
Lakers get McRoberts Ellington Thomas
Knicks get Deng
Heat get Noah O'Quinn Kuzma Hart Ny 2018 2nd

Lakers clear 2/3 of Deng salary for Hart Kuzma


Knicks cut 10 mil in payroll to sign Hill 3yr 50 mil and MCW 4yr 16 mil for MLE


Gay 1yr 20mil Waiters 1yr 15mil
Heat add front court depth gain 3 prospect for adding 8 mil in salary.

03 Jul 2017 15:30:53
Why would the Heat do this?

02 Jul 2017 07:16:18

Boston: Vucevic and Hezonja

Orlando: Bradley, Rozier, Mickey, & future 1st from Philly (either 2018 LAL or 2019 Philly/Sac)

Boston signs Heyward

Boston gets a starting 5, moves Horford to natural 4, and gets a talented wing.

Orlando gets an upgrade in backcourt, couple of cheap young players, and a decent 1st round pick to help with the rebuild.

02 Jul 2017 15:44:50
Hahaha ok magic fan.

02 Jul 2017 15:51:40
At best it would be Bradley, Mickey and a Boston 1st and possible filler if Boston can land Heyward.

30 Jun 2017 21:45:34
Lakers 2017 Surprise

Sign Gordon Hayward 4y Max

Lakers 2018

Sign Paul George 3y Max

Resign Brook Lopez 3y on a fair contract

I'm not sure if we can keep Randle or not I think we can go over the cap for him or we can trade him for a future top 10 pick

Ball Clarkson
Hayward Ingram
George Ingram
Randle Nance Jr
Lopez Zubac

30 Jun 2017 14:33:00
30 Jun 2017 13:54:44
Knicks Next Two Offseasons

Hire David Griffin as new President of Basketball Operations

Fire Jeff Hornacek and Kurt Rambis

Hire Mark Jackson as new Head Coach


Bulls get Courtney Lee, Joakim Noah, and 2019 1st Round Draft Pick

Knicks get Dwayne Wade

Free Agency

Resign Derrick Rose for 1 year and $15 million as a stop gap.

2017-18 Starting Lineup

PG Rose
SG Wade
SF Melo
PF Porzingis
C Hernangomez

I think with Mark Jackson as the coach with his big New York personality and Dwayne Wade's leadership and championship pedigree this team will be vastly improve.

Then......2018-2019 Offseason

Melo declines his 2018-2019 player option.

Free Agency

Sign LeBron James for 2 years and $50 million

Sign Chris Paul for 2 years and $50 million

Resign Carmelo Anthony for 2 years and $30 million

Resign Dwayne Wade for 2 years and $20 million

2018-2019 Starting Lineup

PG Paul
SG Wade
SF James
PF Melo
C Porzingis

I know the speculation as of late is that LA is going to be LeBron's next destination but with Paul leaving the Clippers and the Lakers having many young pieces already in place with the intent of adding George, NY might be his best bet at making their Banana Boat Dream a Reality. LeBron has said numerous times that MSG is his favorite place to play so playing half your games at your favorite arena with your best friends is not a bad alternative. Not to mention, LeBron having a relationship with David Griffin.

I know this is highly unlikely and probably a pipe dream. But being a Knicks fan, pipe dreams are all I have because the reality sucks.

30 Jun 2017 15:53:44
Might as well bring back Earl Monroe and Dave DeBusschere while you're at it.

30 Jun 2017 20:30:03
literally you ONLY post to insult the knicks. We get it, you are a celtics fan and while you have a ton of picks, youve essentially floundered them and your team is fool's gold. Let me break this down for you.

You have now had 3 picks which should generate elite players. You have gotten good, not great, rotational players. Your big contract, horford, was given a terrible contract. He is no elite big man. But he's making a massive amount.

Now, you got bradley. expiring contract and will get 20mill+ offers. IT3, expiring, would need near max, likely max, to keep him.

So, essentially, after this year, the celtics will have Horford making 30 million, Crowder making 7.5 million, some rookies/ role players, and not much else. Get it?

Its fun, ainge gets so much praise for trading adn getting draft picks. he's made one really good trade that fell into his lap. His drafting has been terrible. And now the contracts are about to explode in his face. We get it, celtics are pinning their hat on signing hayward and george. Because if you dont. the celitcs are getting near lottery team in a year.

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