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21 Jun 2018 00:10:11
Lakers get Leonard Baker Burke 59
Spurs get Ingram Kuzma Kanter
Knicks get Knight Chandler Dudley
Suns get Ball Deng Noah


Suns have nice 5 starting at the cost of taking 2 bad contract

Ball/Brunson-31/Ulis
Booker/Divencenzo-15/Harrison
Warren/Jackson/Reed
Chriss/Benders/Deng
Ayton/Williams/Noah

Lakers can assemble super team.

CP3/Burke/Ennis
Leonard/Hart/Baker
George/Melo-MLE/K.Williams-59
Lebron/J.Green-vet/Metu-47
Spellman-25/Zubic/Bryant

Spurs get get great value for Leonard.

Murray/Mills/White
Ingram/Green/Paul
Kuzma/Gay/Kurucs-49
Alridge/Bertan/Wagner-18
Kanter/Gasol/Lauvergne

Knicks move Noah without trading a pick and save 4 mil
Lee thomas for Faried Arthur
Knight for Mack Ross

Ntilikina/Mudiay/Mack
Hardaway/Ross/Dotson
Diop-36/Dudley/T.Williams
Porter-9/Faried/Arthur
Chandler/Kornet/Porzingis

21 Jun 2018 05:02:04
Suns are eating it in this.

20 Jun 2018 23:46:18
Hornets get ball, dudley and deng plus 20 first from Lakers and second round pick Suns

Suns get batum

Lakers get Walker.

Lakers free 13 mil so have 75 mil if they announce all free agents. plus have an all star PG in Walker, Ingram, kuzma, Hart,zubak, Bryant, AND ennis. Sign James 28, George 28 with 19 left for cousins or Jordan. Will reddick take 8.5 mle to compete I think so
Walker
Reddick
George
James
Cousins/Jordan
With Ingram and kuzma would be strong bench.

21 Jun 2018 05:02:04
20 first round picks?

21 Jun 2018 05:02:59
Where did the hornets get the cap for this?

21 Jun 2018 05:48:37
Ball deng and Dudley equal Batum and Walker. 2020 first for the LD people.

20 Jun 2018 17:07:57
Lakers Leanord (only if healthy)

Spurs Walker Ingram

Hornets Murry Deng 25th pick 47th pick

20 Jun 2018 17:31:22
How will anyone know if he's healthy? That can't be part of the equation at this point.

20 Jun 2018 17:32:44
Ingram and the 25 doesn't get you Leonard and might be what they would need to give up just to dump Deng.

20 Jun 2018 17:33:34
Reports are saying Leonard is fine.

20 Jun 2018 17:34:37
Hornets just did a deal for cap relief doubt deng is in their plans.

20 Jun 2018 21:40:11
With Murray in his rookie deal Deng be worth it though they just got out the tax so it shouldn't be an issue. Murray is a beast for losing Walker to Brooklyn nets next year where i assume he would sign if hornets keep him. But give the spurs Hart and a future pick.

19 Jun 2018 07:34:50
LAL: K Leonard

SAS: K Walker, B Ingram, LAL '18 1st (via CLE)

CHA: L Ball, J Hart, LAL '18 2nd (via DEN), LAL '19 2nd (via CHI)

LAL sign PG, & LBJ

PG: LBJ
SG: PG
SF: K Leonard
PF: Kuzma
C: ?

19 Jun 2018 10:21:23
Lakers are doing great, they shouldn't hurry and develop the young talents.

18 Jun 2018 09:21:09
Lakers got 61 to spend. If they stretch Deng they have 72 mil after they announce all free agents and will have 12 mil cap hold with 60 mil left if they want randle but here there keeping him.

Sign James and George 28 each. With 4 left for Noel. Mle on reddick for four years 34 mil. Signn randle to whatever it takes.
Ball
Reddick
George
James
Noel
Kuzma randle Hart and Ingram would be a strong bench.

Or rid randle use the 16 mil on Avery Bradley. Use mle on Evans for years 34 mil. Sign Noel with the other 4.4 exception.
Ball
Bradley
George
James
Noel
With Evans Hart Ingram and kuzma off bench would slaughter golden state. I would like to see Ball handle the rock and see how much king James can score. With shooters like Bradley and George. And a rebounder like Noel. Ball can guard Klay while Bradley chases around Curry. With George putting good d on Durant. James can relax on d guarding green with Noel on there starting center.

So this requires no trades just there willingness to sign with this great situation. That's y there so much speculation with Lakers because they can sign all the players to create a team that would beat golden state. With James and George joining the Lakers with 16 left and mle would be better then the cavs And thunder

18 Jun 2018 09:36:13
Best possible scenario maybe if we can sign James and George on a discount but i don't think it would happen.

18 Jun 2018 12:40:41
Ingram averaged 16 say he can put up 14 off the bench plus kuzma doing the same. Plus Evans and Hart all caple of averaging 10 plus points off bench with James averaging 27 George averaging 24 plus Bradley 16 and ball like 12 and 8. Plus Noel 7 and 12. Plus have solid defenders, this team be Scary. Point is what more help would they need so no needforr james and George to take less then 28 that is a discount.

18 Jun 2018 15:25:15
noel 4 mil and Reddick MLE, what are you talking about.

18 Jun 2018 19:59:48
Lebron and PG are not taking paycuts to play with guys that have only been in the league for a couple seasons and haven't proven anything. Either way, the math is way off on this one. If you have cap room, you do not get the full MLE worth 8 mill/ season. You will get a room mle for 4.3 mill/ season for 2 years tops.

17 Jun 2018 22:04:16
Game plan 2 knicks keep their youth

Spurs get Hardaway Kuzma Ingram
Lakers get Leonard Burke Baker
Knicks get Ball Deng

CP3 george lebron 2yr 50 mil, than resign Randle, Melo-mle

70-12
CP3/Burke/Ennis
Leonard/Hart/Baker
George/Melo-MLE/Kurocs-47
Lebron/J.Green-vetmin/Wagner-25
Randle-ext/Zubic/Bryant

54-28
Murray/Mills/White
Green/Hardaway/Paul
Ingram/Gay/Bridges-18
Kuzma/Bertan/Metu-49
Aldridge/Gasol/Lauvergne

25-45
Ball/Mudiay/Jack
Ntilikina/Lee/Dotson
Diop-36/Deng/T.Williams
Porter-9/Thomas/Kornet
Porzingis/Kanter/Noah

17 Jun 2018 15:36:38
Multiple Kawhi deals:

Just having fun with a couple of deals, let me know which ones, if any, you like.

#1 - To GSW

Kawhi for Klay and Jordan Bell

Kawhi moves to the two, Warriors and Spurs would have to sign either after next season, Spurs get young C, and if healthy, Claw makes Warriors unstoppable.

#2 - To MIA

Kawhi for JJ, Bam and Justise

Miami loves star players, and they get one in Claw. Spurs take on two years of overpaid but solid James Johnson to get two potential building blocks in Winslow and Bam.

#3 - To POR

Kawhi for Harkless, Aminu, Collins, 2018 1st, 2020 1st

Admittedly the worst player package, Spurs get only two solid rotation players and a young C with potential, but this is about picks and depth. Blazers tried their best to add a third star last year, but were unsuccessful. This year they get their guy.

4# - To LAC

Kawhi, Mills for Harris, Beverley, Johnson, pick 12

This is a popular rumour, and is one I like. Harris and Beverley are above average players who offer D and versatility. Johnson adds another shooter, and pick 12 brings a good rotation piece. Kawhi goes home, and Mills offers shooting at the 1. Yes, Clips dealt two stars last year, but I don’t believe it was for a rebuild, so adding a superstar while still keeping a lottery pick in this year’s draft is a win.

#5 - To BOS

Kawhi, Mills for Hayward, Brown

Both Claw and Gordon are coming off major injuries, so both teams are taking a risk. When healthy though, Kawhi is the better player, and Brown is needed to get this deal done. Mills salary matches, but also helps soften the blow should Smart not resign, or if Rozier is needed in a separate deal.

#6 - To NYK

Kawhi for Lee, Frank, Dotson, 2018 1st, 2020 1st

Again, not a great player package, but Lee feels like a Spur, Frank and Dejonte are a defensive nightmare and two picks, including 9 brings quality youth. Sounds like Kawhi and his camp have at least a fleeting interest in playing in NY, and him with Zinger would be the foundation for the Knicks turnaround.

#7 - To UTA

Kawhi for Ingles, Thabo, O’Neal and 2018 1st

Claw with Mitchell, and Steiffel would be a scary threesome, though Jazz hesitate as this is the spot Claw is least likely to resign. Spurs get a really solid, underrated player on a good deal in Ingles, an expiring deal in Thabo and two young pieces.

#8 - To LAL

Kawhi for Ingram, Kuzma

Spurs don’t get pick 25, but also don’t take back Deng. Lakers give up two good building blocks, and keep 25 to try to tie to Deng for another trade.

#9 - To PHI

Kawhi for Saric, Covington and pick 10

Philly gets their star if LBJ doesn’t land there. Spurs get an underrated 3 and D guy, and two young quality pieces.

#10 - To CHI

Kawhi, pick 17 for Valentine, Portis, picks 7 and 22

Chicago speeds up the rebuild, adding Kawhi to Lauri and Kris while keeping a first in this year’s draft. Spurs get youth and two picks.

17 Jun 2018 15:54:11
Outside of the Celtics offer here, most of these seem pretty short.

19 Jun 2018 03:27:19
I think the most likely of these in order are LAC, LAL, CHI. You could add PHI to that if you switched Saric with Fultz.

17 Jun 2018 14:52:18
Bulls-Lakers

Bulls: Luol Deng and Lonzo Ball

Lakers: Justin Holiday, Kris Dunn and Nikola Mirotic trade exception

Both teams unhappy with their PG's
Lakers get a great on-ball defender, a 3&D wing and unload Deng's contract
Bulls get a younger pg that can make Lauri Markkanen better.

17 Jun 2018 17:26:23
How can a guy that can't shoot help?

17 Jun 2018 11:23:38
LAL - SAS - MIL

This is based on Spurs not taking Deng's contract or Ball, so Lakers need a third team to make Leonard, George, James happen. Milwaukee can be that team, because of Lebron's buddy Bledsoe.

Lakers get Leonard, Bledsoe

Spurs get Ingram, Kuzma, 25th LAL, Dellavedova (or Henson)

Bucks get Ball, Deng, 47th LAL

Lakers will be at 101 mil after that having Bledsoe, Leonard, George (29mil), James (34mil), Zubac, Hart. So they do it.

Spurs assuming that LAL's best offer would be Ingram, Kuzma, Deng, 25th, here they avoid Deng by taking an overpaid but servicable player from the Bucks.

Bucks take a pg that fits better to Middleton and Giannis. Ball had 7.2 ast, 6.9 reb which they need more than 5.1 ast and 3.9 reb of better scoring Bledsoe. Don't forget that Lonzo is still rookie, so at least he will shoot like Bledsoe in time. Bucks eat 36 Deng's mil, but they also move 20 mil of their own bad salary

17 Jun 2018 14:22:09
I don't believe Milwaukee would want the "Ball Circus", Plus, Why would the Bucks get rid of 20 Mil of their own bad salary, Only to take on a worse salary of 36 Mil? I believe Milwaukee would pass on this idea.

17 Jun 2018 14:22:54
Spurs get Deng on trade or trade him to another team.

17 Jun 2018 15:38:20
@torque if Bud feels there is all star quality in Ball I'm ok with that trade. Bledsoe, Delly cost as much as Ball, Deng, 47th. We know Bledsoe's ceiling, if Bud is sure that he can make Lonzo's higher I take the circus. If Bucks can't trade for a third star next to Giannis and Middleton, they should try to make one instead of doing nothing.

17 Jun 2018 17:25:39
@milpso, I don't think anyone looks at Ball with "All Star" quality, Plus, who ant a non-starter (Deng) sitting on the bench paying him 36 Mil?, Yes, the Bucks do need to something, But, Ball and Deng are simply not the answer.

17 Jun 2018 18:01:06
RE, Wants, not "Ant"

17 Jun 2018 02:30:24
Lonzo, Deng, and #25

For

DeAndre Jordan

Lakers clear Deng’s contract and get DJ’s expiring

Clippers get starting point guard of the future and Lonzo gets to stay in LA. DJ is looking to move.

17 Jun 2018 05:57:22
Probably add hart and it's a done deal.

16 Jun 2018 22:34:01
I believe the Spurs won't trade Kwahi to the West and definitely not the Lakers. San Antonio should try to send Leonard to the East so that the league can be somewhat competitive. If Lakers really want Leonard they need to give up the following in my opinion:

Lakers - Spurs

Lakers gets:
Leonard
Gasol
Mills

Spurs gets:
Ball
Ingram
Kuzma
25th pick
2020 1st rd pick (Top 5 protected)

Lakers probably won't make this deal because that removes their cap space to sign to max stars.

16 Jun 2018 23:14:34
Yeah, I'd basically be like they're trading all that plus Paul George, if they think Lebron and George are coming. I think if they could just take back Mills and Kawhi and then add Deng to it, it may work for everyone involved. You may have to add another pick though, but it's probably worth it.

16 Jun 2018 23:21:38
That’s just too much for Leonard. Maybe if he was locked in for 3-4 more years, but not as an expiring contract.

Also, if SA is rebuilding, they really shouldn’t care if it’s east or west. Get the best package you can.

16 Jun 2018 16:00:14
SAS - LAL - MIL

Spurs get Parker (16mil, s/t with Leonard), Kuzma, Maker, Wilson, 17th MIL

Lakers get Bledsoe, Green, Brogdon

Bucks get Leonard, Ball, Deng

SAS do that because they don't want Leonard in the West and straight to LA. They are getting a similar deal to what Lakers would offer them. It's like replacing Ingram and 25th with Parker, Maker and 17th

LAL still sign King and George. They bring Lebron's buddy and make cap space to sign Leonard in 2019. In that they even keep Bledsoe with MLE (or Brogdon) and of course Ingram as 6th.

MIL gets Leonard without losing Middleton. They hope that in time they convince him stay. At least they enjoy one dream season with Ball, Middleton, Leonard, Antetokoumbo, Dedmon starting 5.

16 Jun 2018 16:42:01
Why wouldn't LA just cut out the Bucks. They give up probably the 2 most valuable players outside of Kawhi here. Also, you can't sign and trade along side other players. Parker can't legally be involved directly with the trade. I don't think LA would have much interest in Bledsoe either.

16 Jun 2018 16:56:36
I agree with rkeene, Plus, Why would the Bucks want the Ball circus?, PLUS Deng's contract? I also don't think Leonard would want to come to Milwaukee. I also would rather see LA and the Spurs work out that trade. Instead of going after Leonard, Milwaukee should be looking for a Center. (Lopez, Jordan, Dedmon, but Not Whiteside, Think Larry Sanders) The Bucks could also use a legit SF, While moving 6'8" Middleton back to SG.

16 Jun 2018 17:29:47
This is based on Pop not wanting to send KL straight to LA, so you can't cut out Bucks. It's a mid ground for everyone. Lakers do their Big 3 with one year delay, Bucks take advantage for one year superteam.
It can be done if you seperate the KL - Parker trade.

16 Jun 2018 18:42:54
No super team has ball or deng om it.

16 Jun 2018 07:06:16
LAL

they around 62mil cap space for 2018-19

since everyone is saying no one is taking Deng's contract (okay..)

stretch Luol Deng will have cap hit of 7.4mil/yr, LAL will gain additional 11mil cap so total of 73mil

sign Paul George to max (4yr/120mil)
sign LeBron James (2yr/70mil w/ P.O)

trade:

LAL-CHA-ATL

LAL- K.Walker, 2nd from ATL
CHA- L.Ball, K.Kuzma
ATL- M.Kidd-Gilchrist, 25th pick

no one think that Kawhi thing could work so LA's 3rd star will be Kemba Walker who is a clutch guy too

LA resign Brook Lopez & Channing Frye
resign KCP to smaller contract

they will be over the cap after those moves

PG- Walker,Ennis (LeBron)
SG- Ingram,Hart
SF- George,Caldwell-Pope
PF- James,Frye
CE- Lopez,Zubac,Bryant

16 Jun 2018 07:27:34
If I had lbj I wouldn't trade valuable space for walker. Chalmers, Jennings, Lawson, possibly rondo are all cheaper and easier to acquire. There's other capable Pg's I'm sure I left a few out.

16 Jun 2018 07:52:14
Walker has a cheap contract. He is one of those point guards who will fit in nicely with Lebron. Rondo is not LBJ type of guard i think, Chalmers, Jennings and Lawson are all done. The trade is good.

16 Jun 2018 05:09:28
Lakers Leanord

Spurs InGram Randle sign and trade Deng 25th pick 48th pick


Spurs take it or leave it Celtics ain't giving better offer then that for him brown and couple picks would be the only in trade plus fill in and Celtics not giving up Tatum Hayward kyrie

16 Jun 2018 06:19:51
Can't trade other players alongside a s&t.

16 Jun 2018 04:00:22
ATL-LAL-SAS

ATL: L.Ball + K.Kuzma + 18th pick + 25th pick

LAL: K.Leonard + P.Mills

SAS: 3rd pick + B.Ingram + D.Shroeder + L.Deng

16 Jun 2018 04:59:45
atlanta shouldn’t.

16 Jun 2018 06:22:08
I can't see deng involved in a kawhi deal without significant compensation.

16 Jun 2018 03:55:58
Lakers summer:

LAL-SAS-LAC

LAL: Beverley + Leonard

SAS: Ingram + Harris + 25th pick + 13th pick

LAC: Ball + Kuzma + Deng

15 Jun 2018 22:08:42
Lakers get - Kawhi
Spurs get - Ingram Chriss and 16th pick
Suns get - Deng Ball Kuzma

Lakers draft - Khyri Thomas
Sign CP3 and Lebron to max
Sign Noel with rest

Cp3
Hart
Kawhi
Lebron
Noel

Murray
Green
Ingram
LA
Gasol

Ball
Booker
Jackson
Kuzma
Ayton

15 Jun 2018 22:18:14
This notion that a player controls his destiny is absurd. Did people not learn that Kyrie or PG didn’t go where he wanted to go the GM does not care about his list of teams and the GM of the Spurs is going to try to make Kawhi happy by sending him exactly where he wants to go. He could still be traded but honestly the Lakers are probably the last team he would land now that he stated that’s where he wanted to go due to leverage and them being in the western conference

16 Jun 2018 04:06:55
Is Chris's really good and I missed it?

15 Jun 2018 21:13:28
Clippers trade Tobias Harris, #12, #13, and 2021 1st rounder top 5 protected

Spurs trade Kawhi Leonard and #18

Why are the spurs including pick 18? They have to in order to get #12 and #13 due to the stepien rule. Clippers cannot trade both picks and not have a 1st this draft.
Spurs would get 2 lottery picks in this draft and tobias harris who is a 19ppg scorer on an expiring deal that could open cap room.
The clippers have leverage. If the lakers want him, they have to try to convince the spurs to take dengs terrible contract and the 24th pick with young players. any other team risks losing assets to get a 1 year rental. If clippers stand pat this offseason, they have cap room to sign kawhi straight up next season and bring him to LA.

15 Jun 2018 21:00:33
No way Spurs do the favour to Lakers and take Deng's salary. Only chance they have is Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, 25th for Leonard. And still there is the question if Pop wants a case like Ball and the certainty that SAS can get better offers.

Of course if Spurs take it, LAL ahouldn't even think. They stretch Deng, sign Lebron 35mil, George 30mil and have their Big 3.

x / x
Leonard/ Hart
George / x
James / x
x /Kuzma

This will cost 96 mil. Lakers can find then vets who would like a ring more than a good payday and some 2nds to fill the roster

15 Jun 2018 19:25:36
LAL: trade Lopez/hart/ kuzma/ 2 future 1st round picks

Spurs: Kawhi

Spurs don't have much leverage now that Kawhi says he wants to go to LA (same thing PG did last year)

Lakers
sign LBJ
Sign Noel
Sign smart/or Bradley

Ball
Smart/Bradley
Kawhi
Bron
Noel

15 Jun 2018 19:33:19
Doesn’t the Paul George situation disprove your point that the Spurs have no leverage?

15 Jun 2018 19:36:09
Lopez is a free agent and is the same player to an extent as Pau.

15 Jun 2018 20:36:39
No my point is they won’t get what they could’ve for Kawhi because he wants out. Indy could have gotten a lot more for PG if he hadn’t said he wanted out. Not about where they go.

 
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