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15 Jul 2019 06:42:01
John Wall for Chris Paul who says no?

For Washington they can make an strong playoff push around a back court of Beal and CP3. Paul's contract is shorter and is capable of playing 80% of a season.

For OKC they take a swing at a higher potential PG who when healthy was a top 5 PG in the league (2 years ago).

What are your thoughts?

Big_Wiz

1.) 15 Jul 2019 08:41:33
John Wall may never be the same.


2.) 15 Jul 2019 08:51:51
Not until Wall comes back. As of now, OKC would rather have Paul. They can flip him for something.


3.) 15 Jul 2019 09:17:39
Washington should trade Beal, but it's a good trade if they want to compete. The problem is, that CP3 is going to be a pain in the ass in Washington, because he wants to play for a better team.

OKC can take the risk, they have a lot of rookie contracts and they don't get much value for Paul.


4.) 15 Jul 2019 09:22:57
The Thunder say no. Wall is impossible to trade, has an extra year, is making more (OKC is over the tax still), and Wall looks like a guy that will struggle to come back from that injury. The Thunder would need multiple picks to do this.


5.) 15 Jul 2019 13:24:45
Only way that happens is if Okc gets 3 1st round picks unprotected or something crazy like that.


6.) 15 Jul 2019 14:12:50
Wizards should be like OKC and be in asset collection mode and build for the future. To me, that means trading Beal before he becomes a free agent n 2021.


7.) 20 Jul 2019 05:24:45
INSANE idea.
Only way that sounds good is if they throw in Beal. Then the answer should be ABSOLUTELY.
Otherwise, whatever Wall was before, he will never be again and that’s a ton more money than what we are trying to get rid of with PG.
By the time Wall comes back, there will only be 2 years left on CP’s contract.


 

 

08 Jul 2019 02:18:03
Westbrook to Houston trade idea:

OKC send: Westbrook, Schroder
Receive: Dragic, Waiters, Leonard OR Olynyk, 4 1sts (Hou) & 2 2nds (Mia)
Clear close to 40m in cap after this season, get a bunch of future picks. Can remain competitive with these additions and add talent through the draft for years to come.

Heat Send: Dragic, Waiters, Leonard OR Olynyk, '22 & '24 2nds
Receive: Paul, Gordon (exp)
Upgrade their stating PG while only trading 3 above market deals for average players

Orlando send: Fournier
Receive: Schroder, 2 2nds (Hou)
Get a starting calibre PG, reduce payroll and get two DPs for an overpriced wing.

Houston sends: Paul, Gordon, '20 & '22 1sts (unprotected), '24 & '26 1sts (Lottery protected), '21 & '23 2nds
Receive: Westbrook, Fournier
PG: Westbrook, Rivers
SG: Harden, Shumpert, Korver?
SF: Fournier, Green
PF: Tucker, Clark / House
C: Capella, Davis

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1.) 08 Jul 2019 05:44:05
Houston takes a step back and gives up 4 firsts. YIKES!


 

 

11 Jun 2019 07:18:51
4 Team Trade:
Hou send: Paul
Receive: Jackson (Exp), Mykhailuk, Picks 35 & 44
Clear 18m in cap and pick up 3 cheap rotation players

Det Send: Jackson, Leuer, Mykhailuk, Pick 15
Receive: Paul
Starting lineup of Paul, Kennard, Brown, Griffin, Drummond could be good enough for a 4 seed in the east

Atl send: Picks 17, 35 & 44
Receive: Leuer, Pick 9
Consolidate picks for taking on a 10m expiring, would have picks 8, 9, 10 & 41.

Wash send: Pick 9
Receive: Picks 15 & 17
Move back in the draft where there isn't a big drop off in talent

Who says no?

Big_Wiz

1.) 11 Jun 2019 13:30:41
I do.


2.) 11 Jun 2019 14:20:24
My guess is wizards say no.


 

 

16 Apr 2019 01:07:15
Bucks dip hard into Luxury Tax to keep Giannis happy (after draft).

Blazers send: Turner, Pick 25, '20 1st (top 25 protected converts to 2 seconds)
Receive: Hill (waive, DiVincenzo
Save 17m+ in salary for next year and pick up a solid wing prospect.

Cavs send: Love
Receive: Turner, Snell, Wilson, Picks 25 & 30, '20 1st (Blazers)
Receive 3 1sts, a prospect and 2 shorter bad contracts for a player that doesn't fit their timeline.

Bucks send: Hill (1m Guaranteed), Snell, DiVincenzo, Wilson, Pick 30
Receive: Love

Bucks resign Middleton 4-5 years starting at 25m.
Resign Lopez 1 year 5-6m (MLE)
Resign Mirotic 2 year starting at 10m
Match Brogdon (15m/y)
Sign Lin , Rondo or Isaiah Thomas to Vet min

PG: Bledsoe, Lin
SG: Brogdon, Connaughton
SF: Middleton, Brown
PF: Giannis, Mirotic, Ilyasova
C: Love, Lopez

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1.) 16 Apr 2019 05:48:56
I like the Blazers deal if the '20 1st is hit, or miss instead of 2 2nds. Blazers are down a few of those already.


2.) 16 Apr 2019 11:09:11
Love is not the player he was. Not even close. He's overpaid and will miss a bunch of games every year. If he's part of a championship rotation, fine, but you cannot rely on him anymore.


3.) 16 Apr 2019 17:21:24
Maybe I'm just really low on DiVincenzo, but giving up two firsts to unload Turner is way too high of a price to pay. Maybe if Turner had multiple years left, but he'll be an expiring contract.

I think Turner could even be a decent trade chip going into next year as salary filler to take on a big contract with more years.


4.) 16 Apr 2019 22:54:33
Isnt just having the Bucks waive G. Hill better for the Bucks in the long run?


5.) 17 Apr 2019 09:05:40
They can give Hill the guarantee, and he can agree to stay for less. That's not a bad deal, if his terms are reasonable. Bucks are not paying 19M.


6.) 17 Apr 2019 16:47:18
agree with Bmiller, 1 pick is enough to unload Turner.


7.) 17 Apr 2019 17:41:50
@Gasupo, One 1st rd pick is to much for give up for Turner. Like Love, he simply isn't worth it.


8.) 19 Apr 2019 15:42:09
I believe Milwaukee would pass. Love is no way near a 1st pick. Leave the Cavs. enjoy him. The same with Turner. Overpaid! Not worth the Bucks will be able to keep Giannis, Just by resigning Middleton. Bledsoe is already resigned. Snell, Fraizer, possibly Hill, Divencenco, and also Brogdon will be gone. (Brogdon stated he thinks Milwaukee is to racist of a city (? ) ) No problem, I say, trade him Lakers for B. Ingram.

Thoughts?


 

 

26 Feb 2019 03:16:48
AD summer trades:

1) Bos send: Hayward, Smart, Brown, Pick 14, 19 & 22, '20 1st (Mem)
Receive: Davis, Top 55 protected 2nd (Suns)

Heat send: Whiteside, Pick 10
Receive: Hayward, Pick 14 & 19

Suns send: '23 2nd (Top 55 protected)
Receive: Hill (exp), Pick 22

Pels send: Davis, Hill
Receive: Whiteside, Smart, Brown, Pick 10, '20 1st (Mem)

2) NY send: Pick 2, Thomas (1m Exp) Knox, DSJ, Robinson, Dotson, '21 1st x2 (NY and Dal)
Receive: Davis

Pels send: Davis
Receive: Pick 2, Thomas (Waive) Knox, DSJ, Robinson, Dotson, '21 1st x2 (NY and Dal)


3) LAL send: Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Wagnar, Pick 13 & '21 1st
Receive: Davis

Pels send: Davis
Receive: Ball, Ingram, Kuzma, Wagnar, Pick 13 & '21 1st

4) LAC send: Gallinari, Robinson, Shamet, '20 1st (better of LAC or Phi), '21 1st x2 (LAC & Mia), '23 1st
Receive: Davis

Pels send: Davis
Receive: Gallinari, Robinson, Shamet, '20 1st (better of LAC or Phi), '21 1st x2 (LAC & Mia), '23 1st

Thoughts?

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1.) 26 Feb 2019 11:35:29
Except the draft choices, none of those Knicks guys would be rotation players for the Pelicans.


2.) 26 Feb 2019 14:01:20
I don't know about that Super. Is Ball, Ingram and Wagner any better then Knox, DSJ and Robinson? Pretty much the same in my book.

So that leaves Pick #2 = Kuzma + pick 13 if ypu are comparing the NY and LA offers. Here it is a matter of preference depending on whom the Pels can get at #13.


3.) 26 Feb 2019 21:37:11
After watching the Lakers play hyere Saturday i really hope they continue to stay away from a Lakers deal. Best bet is a Cs trade package w Tatum. Second best option IMO is Knicks w Zion package.


4.) 27 Feb 2019 00:27:07
They would want Zion, I keep Frank Ntilikina Dotson.

Zion Knox DSJ Ntilikina Ellenson Trier (1.5 guarenteeed) NY 2020 2022 DAL 2021 2023 1st
for
Davis

Best package hands

Irving/ vetmin/ Allen
Dotson/ vet min/ Jenkins
Durant/ vetmin/ C. Johnson-51
Davis/ vet min/ Lawson-pickup
Jordan/ Robinson/ Govan-pickup.


5.) 28 Feb 2019 01:23:13
Very true. The Celtics would def take it! Hayward is mvp level and don’t get me started on sharpshooter smart.

See. I can do sarcasm as well 😀.


 

 

 

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22 Aug 2018 01:18:09
Knicks fire sale / Cap clearing moves:

76ers send: Bayless, '19 1st (top 24 protected, converts to 2x 2nds)
Receive: Lee

Kings send: Shumpert, '19 2nd
Receive: THJ, '19 1st (76ers)

Pels send: Ajinca, '20 2nd
Receive: Thomas

Knicks send: THJ, Lee, Thomas
Receive: Shumpert, Bayless, Ajinca, '19 & '20 2nd

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1.) 22 Aug 2018 19:28:04
Why would the sixers do this? Bayless is expiring at $8.6 mill. Why on earth would they give up a 1st (or 2 seconds), and take on Lee for $12.3 this year and guaranteed $12.7 million next year. Why would philly give up their cap space so the knicks coan increase theirs. This really doesn't make sense if you view it from both teams perspectives.


2.) 23 Aug 2018 15:12:33
Probably because the sixers can use additional 3pt shooting, perimeter defense, and veteran leadership, and Lee checks off all that?


3.) 23 Aug 2018 15:44:46
Cause Lee was top 5 in percentage wise on 8 to 16 feet jumper. Had high free throw percentage. shot 40 % from 3 last two years. And good in transition. Plus reddick those two would be solid and help Simmons.


4.) 24 Aug 2018 19:38:24
Sixers aren't giving a pick and player for Lee.


 

 

12 Jul 2018 01:40:47
Building Celtics super team:

Hawks send: '23 2nd that won't convey
Receive: Dieng, Ojeleye, '20 2nd (Bos)

Wolves send: Butler, Dieng
Receive: Hayward, Rozier

Spurs send: Leonard
Receive: Morris, Brown, Yabusele, 19 1st (Bos)

Celtics send: Hayward, Morris, Brown, Rozier, Ojeleye, Yabusele, '19 1st, '20 2nd

Irving, Butler, Leonard, Tatum, Horford would be a great starting 5 for years to come.

Next off season; If Irving, Butler, Leonard agree to resign. Throw Horford + 4 1sts at the Pels for Davis

Big_Wiz

1.) 12 Jul 2018 09:35:05
Would be a great team I just think with the Celtics team last year add Kyrie and Hayward healthy improving young talent like Tatum, Brown, and the Emergence of Scary terry it’s right there.


2.) 13 Jul 2018 05:41:49
How could KI KL JB and AH be a great starting 5 if you trade Horford the following year. All 4 w/ AD instead of AH will be over the Luxury Tax not counting the remaining 9 players on the bench if they all resigned.


 

 

12 Jul 2018 00:43:33
OKC receive: Bazemore
Hawks receive: Melo (Buyout), '19 & '20 seconds

Hawks get a couple of seconds and get rid of the final year of Bazemore's contract.
OKC receive a serviceable 3&D wing and save up to 50m in salary and tax this year.

Big_Wiz

1.) 12 Jul 2018 05:56:57
If melo is 90 mil with taxes then bazemore will have a similar effect for not much production.


 

 

05 Apr 2018 00:47:41
If Lebron goes to Philly.

Spurs receive: Fultz, Saric, Bayless, Pick 24, 37 & 39, 1st '19

Sixers receive: Leonard

Simmons, RoCo, Leonard, James, Embiid

Spurs get a good haul for a player who appears to not play there and only has a year left.

Sixers complete the process and are still left with Pick 10 (Maybe higher)and future picks to flesh out the roster.

Thoughts?

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1.) 05 Apr 2018 06:25:11
Leonard, and James in PHI would be a super team no Doubt. Depends on what PHI pays. The above isn't good enough in my opinion, (Bayless is no prize) although the Spurs have been genius drafters in the past. The place that gets him, and would trade for him will have the money to pay, and the best package to offer the Spurs. If has-been Robinson has good info.


 

 

31 Jan 2018 02:06:28
Lakers out: Clarkson
In: Frye, 2 Cavs future 2nds, McRoberts

Mavs out: Noel, Barnes, McRoberts
In: Clarkson, Thompson, Smith or Shumpert, Cavs 2018 1st, Future Cavs 2nd

Cavs out: Thompson, Smith or Shumpert, Frye, 2018 1st, 3 future 2nds
In: Barnes, Noel

Lakers get cap space and two seconds

Mavs get rid of Barnes' max contract for a young Pg/sg and picks

Cavs get a line up of Wade/IT, Crowder, Barnes, Lebron, Love, which can hang with GSW death like up on both ends

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09 Jul 2019 06:23:53
1) The Knicks already have a bad rep around the league so rescinding the contract would make that image ever worse for future Free Agents.

2) A significant overpay by the Knicks as they are giving up all their young talent except Robinson.

3) OKC take this trade in a heartbeat, they would be set up for the next 10 year with this sort of influx of young talent and draft picks in their 2 superstar trades.

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14 Feb 2019 13:51:40
@Shiller41 I don't think Rondo gets more than 5m at this stage in his career from a contender. KCP would be doing Clutch a solid and after the year the Lakers would have his full bird rights and could offer him a bloated salary (20m).

I think Ariza could take a discount for a starting role on a contender, he only has a few years left and could only get 5m from other contenders.
As far as AD trades go - I think the Pels won't get better offers than the Lakers gave if AD is 'injured' and says he won't resign with anyone but LAL.

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29 Nov 2018 02:23:42
Just because they are All stars doesn't mean they are equal. Philly say no in a heart beat and hang up laughing.

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26 Nov 2018 04:46:03
They won’t attract any FA anyway and Fultz could just need a change of scenery. I think they only take on an extra 25m (not including Fultz)

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23 Oct 2018 04:06:46
Even though Love isn't my favourite player he is still an all star in his prime, who is under contract for 4 more years and will age well.

A team can't trade back to back 1st (didn't have a first last year) so this picks would be '20 and 22 1sts.

After the season the Cavs would be left with an old Tucker, pick 25+ in '20, a potentially late 1st in '22, and pick 58+ in the '19 draft.

Long story short, Cavs say no.

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