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10 Jan 2022 23:36:38
Orl-Por trade Idea

Don't get me wrong, I love some of these players. But I feel like Orlando needs to consolidate some assets. So how about something like this.

Orlando gets CJ McCullom and Robert Covington.

Portland gets Terrence Ross, Gary Harris, Mo Bamba, Chuma Okeke, and Chicago's 2023 first rounder.

Rationale: Orlando gets a go to scorer in McCullom and veteran versatile support from Covington. They also turn out courting contracts of Bamba and Harris into something worthwhile. For Portland, they aren't going anywhere with Lillard and McCullom. They can replace his production with a good two-way guard in Harris this year, plus scoring depth off the bench in Ross. They also get to take a flier on Bamba and Okeke in the case they don't want to resign Nurkic. Overall, it would improve their defense and add depth while allowing them to cut $15 million in the off-season (and pick up an additional first).

FLhoopsFan

1.) 11 Jan 2022 01:55:55
Orlando is going nowhere. And CJ isn’t changing that nor would he stay there.


2.) 11 Jan 2022 02:07:45
Moving Suggs to bench? Could hender his development.


3.) 11 Jan 2022 02:19:57
As an Orlando fan, I would do this trade. MD will say hell no but Orlando gets good value here. BMiller will also say no or want more, but all in all I think this benefits both teams.


4.) 11 Jan 2022 07:55:31
I like this for both teams.


5.) 11 Jan 2022 08:27:19
Magic decline it McCollum doesn’t fit their timeline it’s hurt young player like Suggs development so no I don’t like it.


6.) 11 Jan 2022 12:51:23
Actually with MD on this one. Don't think McCollum would do much for the Magic.


7.) 11 Jan 2022 14:14:00
Pointless for Orlando.


8.) 11 Jan 2022 15:46:49
Yeah, I wouldn’t like this. Bamba isn’t the headliner of a trade I’d want for McCollum. But it’s not that far off in value.

But Orlando would be insane to trade this much for McCollum, let alone more.


9.) 11 Jan 2022 18:30:35
Orlando and Detroit should both do similar things before trade deadline. trade ALL of your veterans and guys with the most trade value and just acquire young talented prospects AND draft picks and use the rest of this season to evaluate them. the Pistons said before the season started they will probably finish with a horrible W-L record but its all about evaluating talent and seeing who fits and who does not. i imagine teams like Orlando, Houston and OKC are doing something similar. Indiana might blow it up and take that approach also.


 

 

30 Jul 2021 15:09:44
Orlando trades T-Ross and #33 (maybe a protected future 2nd also) to Knicks for #19.

Orlando trades #8 to Atlanta for Reddish and #20.

Orlando drafts Scottie Barnes (#5), Keon Johnson(#19), and either Jared Butler, Cam Thomas, or Jaden Springer at #20.

Flawed but promising outlook moving forward.

Fultz-Anthony-Hampton
Johnson-G. Harris-#20
Reddish-Barnes-Bacon
Isaac-Okeke
Carter Jr.- Bamba- M.Wagner

Side Note: Could see NY drafting Sharife Cooper at #33 and Atlanta taking Moody, Kuminga, or Giddey at #8.

FLhoopsFan

1.) 30 Jul 2021 15:22:57
Uh, a little late there. Draft happened last night.


2.) 30 Jul 2021 17:41:28
Don't tell Florida anything. 3rd world country.


 

 

08 Mar 2021 00:12:46
Unless I missed hearing about a trade, ESPN must find Vucevic so valuable to the Magic, they pulled him from the roster on the trade machine?

Then again, Charlotte just recalled a bunch of players from their G-league team. Maybe something brewing?

FLhoopsFan

1.) 08 Mar 2021 03:58:21
they did that with allstars.


2.) 08 Mar 2021 04:10:16
Every other All Star is being traded to Charlotte if that’s what you’re thinking.

Make no mistake: if ESPN had a scoop on such a trade, it would be in big letters on the first page, not hidden in a cryptic message at the confines of trade machine.


3.) 08 Mar 2021 17:21:31
I may be mistaken but I think Silver imposed a no trading All-Stars during All-Star break after the DeMarcus Cousins media fiasco when he was trade by Sac to NO.


 

 

01 Mar 2021 19:28:29
Orl-SAS

Gordon, Bamba, Ennis, 2021 2nd rounder

For

Aldridge, Vassell, 2022 1st rounder (lotto protected)

Who says no?

FLhoopsFan

1.) 01 Mar 2021 21:46:01
aldridge alone is better than that package. he may be older but he is still better.


2.) 01 Mar 2021 21:56:46
Magic most likely going to accept it I’ll accept the deal I like it Vassell used to played for Florida State bring him back home

But Spurs going to said no they like Vassell.


3.) 01 Mar 2021 22:52:38
I think the Spurs say no.


4.) 02 Mar 2021 00:05:33
Spurs quickly say no.


 

 

09 Feb 2021 20:35:20
ORL- MIA

Gordon and a lightly protected 2nd
For
Olynyk, Okpala, Nunn

Adebayo, Leonard
Gordon, Achiuwa
Butler, Harkless
Robinson, Herro
Dragic, Bradley


Vucevic, Birch, Bamba
Aminu, Okeke, Olynyk
Ross, Ennis, okpala
Fournier, Nunn
Anthony, Carter-Williams

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1.) 10 Feb 2021 00:03:27
Magic say no! I don’t like this deal Aaron Gordon worth first round pick.


 

 

 

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13 May 2020 20:44:47
How do you think Chuma Okeke compares with Isaac Okoro?

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08 May 2020 20:06:19
Just curious... what could Golden State get for their top three pick (presuming) and the $17 million Igoudala exception? It just seems they'd be best off flipping those in a win now move.

FLhoopsFan

1.) 08 May 2020 21:46:14
Pretty much anyone making less than $17 mil.


2.) 09 May 2020 03:31:11
Josh Richardson, Carl LaVert (not sure when he eligible to be traded), or Spencer Dinwiddie.


3.) 09 May 2020 07:15:01
Cavs got love for Wiggins I'm going for something better then those players with a top 3 pick.


4.) 09 May 2020 11:58:12
ll, that was a significantly better draft. There were 3 highly thought of prospects in Wiggins, Parker and Embiid. This draft doesn’t have anyone on that level.


5.) 09 May 2020 13:37:33
Doesn’t the fact that Wiggins and Parker turned in to what they did prove that the pick still has tremendous value?


6.) 09 May 2020 13:41:52
The pick is not the issue. The salary is what really limits options as most players "worthy" of trading a top pick for are making more than $17 mil.

Nets could add players (staying under $17 mil) and philly's 2020 first.

Philly can do the same with Milton and OKC's 2020 first.


7.) 09 May 2020 16:16:55
Bmiller, not if you think there are at best players that have huge bust potential and some boom potential and role players at the top of the draft.


8.) 09 May 2020 16:49:32
Top 3 pick plus wolves pick and warriors 2021 pick will Get warriors a good player better then those.


9.) 10 May 2020 01:49:36
The top 5 of the draft has had a minimum of 1 all star every year for the last 30 years. Most have two. Very rarely more than 2. No matter the feeling of the draft, the consistency of bust to star is there. Teams and fans that think differently just think they’re smarter than the room. A good GM understands the inherent value of a top 5 pick no matter the draft class.


 

 

15 Sep 2018 01:52:24
Seems as though Phoenix and Orlando both need starting point guards. Can't imagine anyone is desperate to give up their starters, but top line back ups like Cory Joseph, Delon Wright, Shaun Livingston,or Patrick Beverly might be attainable. My question is if you'd rather have a package including Vucevic and/or Jonathan Simmons or if Phoenix's combo of T.J. Warren and/or T. Chandler is more appealing?

FLhoopsFan

1.) 15 Sep 2018 02:38:42
I would rather have the Phoenix combo only because Warren is signed to a long term deal at a reasonable amount. Chandler is used up and not worth much. If you could be assured of Vucevic re-signing, the Orlando pair is better.

I believe that Patty Mills is also a top line backup who is experienced and has started before. Spurs have a couple of young guards who could replace Mills without much loss so they might be willing to deal him.

Any of the backup PGs you mentioned should be considered short term help until an upgrade can be acquired or developed.


 

 

 

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05 Mar 2021 23:34:20
That’s also not how the traded player exception works.

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26 Feb 2021 15:03:09
Vucevic has a solid contract and is playing at an all-star level. Aldridge is toast. Even if you swapped the pick so that it was going toward Orlando, I doubt it would be enough?

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23 Feb 2021 20:16:15
This seems like a weird fit for both teams. Not sure if he Knicks should block Robinson’s development and the fit with Randle is weird. Plus, Vuc isn’t really on their timeline.

For Orlando, Toppin and the pick are the only value here. But Toppin plays the same position as Gordon, Isaac, Aminu, and Okeke? Just doesn’t seem to make a ton of sense for either team. Value seems about right, but fit doesn’t seem great?

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22 Feb 2021 19:13:32
Yes, shizzee, but how are they getting J. Collins? Agree with you about the free agent signings— there is good reason for them to be optimistic there. But if they aren’t signing Collins at great cost in restricted free agency, then who did they trade to Atlanta to get him? Did I somehow miss that trade?

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22 Feb 2021 14:58:02
Great return for Beal, I suppose, but that’s a pretty weak team moving forward. Maybe they do ok in free agency, but it seems you’ve assumed they are signing J. Collins? Not a huge ceiling for that group.

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