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09 May 2019 14:28:18
Lebron to the Knicks?

#1 pick, Knox, DSJ, and Dallas 2 FRPs?


1.) 09 May 2019 14:53:37
Take out this years first and maybe. Lebron doesn’t have that kind of value any more. You just don’t know what you’re getting, for how long, and what kind of head aches it might come with. He isn’t attracting big name free agents on his own, he could scare off Durant or Kawhi, and you basically have to go all in on winning the next two years. It’s not like you can just slap another top 15 player next to him and fill out the roster with some role playing veterans any more and immediately be a contender. If I’m the Knicks, I’m much more interested in trading for AD.

2.) 09 May 2019 17:42:30
If Knicks sign a star and can't sign another then I would. Look to trade for king jAmes if available.

3.) 09 May 2019 19:00:28
Lebron isn't worth 4 firsts.

4.) 10 May 2019 01:07:33
35 yr old lebron 35 mil per season 😭.



19 Apr 2019 21:17:52
Last night really showed that the Simmons-Embiid pairing is holding both players back.

Would Philly move Embiid?

Kings send Barnes, Hield and protected future 1st rounder?


1.) 19 Apr 2019 21:53:27
I think Philly riots if Embiid gets traded. The only way I could see it is if it is like a Brandon Roy situation where they know Embiid only has a few years left or something.

2.) 19 Apr 2019 22:05:23
If I was running phili, I’d strongly consider it. I don’t think his body is going to last more than maybe a few more years.

3.) 19 Apr 2019 22:37:04
Portland trainers rehabbed B. Roy incorrectly, so that wasn't as telegraphed as it seems. Embid needs a surgery of some kind, weight loss maybe in the off season. Top center in the league when healthy, so hield, Barnes, protected 1st.

4.) 19 Apr 2019 23:37:20
Jorga- he has missed more games than he has played. got to sell before next major injury.

5.) 20 Apr 2019 14:36:50
Regardless as to whether they would move him or not, Kings ain’t getting him for that package.

6.) 24 Apr 2019 13:33:42
They’re not trading Embiid any time soon. There isn’t a player alive that could change that.



15 Apr 2019 01:02:02
Crazy scenario for Boston.

Imagine Boston gets the #2 pick vua Sacramento. This jump in the lottery make the Grizzlies pick convey this year as well.

With their 4 picks, Boston drafts Ja Morant, Bol Bol, Edwards from Purdue and Williams from Tennessee.

Let Irving walk this year and Horford next year. Resign Rozier at the same number as Smart. Tell New Orleans to pound sand about trading for AD.


1.) 15 Apr 2019 10:09:10
Yup, that's crazy. Problem is, Ainge isn't crazy. He's pretty damned smart and he wants AD. He will probably get AD.
The other issue I have with this, is they are a championship driven team. They could or would not have 4 rookies on that team. If they were a lottery team, I might see This, but they are not.
Why would they rebuild now, when they could be close to winning #18?

2.) 15 Apr 2019 15:01:05
I don't think Ainge would draft Bol, unless it was too good to pass up. Proven players are still worth more than draft picks. ZW is garnering hype, and maybe he is the next James, but that's at least a few seasons away, AD is gift wrapped, ready to go.

3.) 15 Apr 2019 15:02:09
it wouldn't be so much a rebuild as a retool, and I've thought about this as well. I like AD a lot, but it really depends on how much they want for him and if they think he will actually stick around.

Either way, the trade for AD and the decision on Kyrie can't happen until after the draft, and I really doubt that NO would want anyone other than Morant at #2, so you have time to think. Ja could easily be the best player to come out of this draft, and with him already in tow, they have a lot of bargaining power on what else goes to NO. If Griffin is stubborn on wanting too much, DA should feel comfortable moving forward.

The ideal would be if Memphis' pick wound up at 4. That would give them someone worthwhile, but probably not an immediate impact like the top two or three guys should have. I don't think I would take Bol at 9 anyway. I'm looking at him with that Clippers pick being a good gamble, but 9 is a bit too high for my taste.

4.) 15 Apr 2019 15:03:13
Many reasons why JoeB, including that they do not look like a serious Championship contender right now, don’t have any control whether Kyrie comes back or not, and understand that with no Kyrie, AD is unlikely to re-sign there after next season.

I will give Ainge something, he is smart. If he goes into this offseason with the feeling that Kyrie could walk, and can’t close an AD deal that possibly will convince Irving to stay, I could see a mini reset.

5.) 15 Apr 2019 18:24:05
The best part is that they have the assets to keep retooling as is. They've actually played very well when Kyrie sits, despite him being their most talented player. That could just be an anomaly, but it does go to show the talent on the rest of the roster. If they have the opportunity to bring in a Morant, they might see that as being just as good, and then they don't have to deal with the Kyrie headaches that seem to follow him around.

Even if they don't bring in that top pick, they might decide they feel fine moving forward with Rozier and paying the man. Either way, Kyrie/ AD or the rest of the young pieces they currently have, they should have a pretty lengthy championship window. It'll be very interesting to see what direction Danny goes.

6.) 15 Apr 2019 19:37:56
I was also thinking a "retooled" Celtics roster will still be competitve against a Raptors team minus Kwahi, a 76ers team minus one of their FAs and a limited Embiid, and a Milwaukee team that has its own FAs to resign and limited financial market.

7.) 15 Apr 2019 21:18:13
Bledsoe opted for the most friendly contract possible. The Bucks are sitting pretty going into next season. Even if they lose 2 players they would like to keep.



12 Apr 2019 03:50:18
Orlando long-term salary sump?

Orlando trades A. Gordon + 2019 1st rounder

Sacramento trades H. Barnes.


1.) 14 Apr 2019 01:34:25
Why would the Kings do this?

They have a backlog of bigs with Bagley III and Giles needing more minutes. Adding Gordon to the mix would only stunt their growth and his contract would make resigning their players who are still on their rookie contracts that much more difficult.



31 Mar 2019 22:41:21
Sac: S&T Willie Cauley Stein (3yr/ $35 mil)

Miami: Whiteide + 2019 1st rounder.

Saves Miami over $30 mil in luxury tax for next year.


1.) 01 Apr 2019 03:31:09
If you were lucky to have the Heat bite on salary savings this could happen without the pick

Kanter is a better player than WCS. I wouldn't pay Kanter 8M, or more than anyway. Why would the Heat want WCS when they have Olynyk, and Adebayo?

2.) 01 Apr 2019 12:52:50
I take defense over offense at center any day of week. Kanter misses post scoring opportunities consistently.

3.) 01 Apr 2019 14:30:20
Shizzee are saying WCS is a defender, or better at defense than Kanter? Use your words!

4.) 01 Apr 2019 15:11:59
Would say Kanter and WCS are on the same talent level. However, with the Nurkic injury, I don't think the Blazers are going to let Kanter go without offering a one-year deal in the $12 mil range.

5.) 01 Apr 2019 15:49:34
I highly doubt it, the blazers, or anyone else. Kanter is junk.

6.) 01 Apr 2019 17:05:34
Kanter is a great backup center or a disappointing starting center. Definitely not junk, just not a starter.

Portland can’t offer Kanter anything above MLE. They’re over the cap and don’t have any bird rights. Same with Hood and Curry. I think they’ll let Kanter walk and try to hold onto the other two.

Hopefully Collins takes a step forward this offseason and he can start at center to start next season until nurkic comes back. That has to be Portland’s plan. Then have Leonard back him up. The biggest problem would be if Aminu leaves and they can’t fill the hole at PF. Do you go small and start two of Layman/ Harkless/ Hood? Do you dare play Leonard and Collins together in the starting lineup?

7.) 01 Apr 2019 18:29:47
Bmiller, draft a Grant Williams, PJ Washington or Jontay Porter in thr 1st round?

Try to purchase the Kings second 2nd roubder to dradt Tillie?

8.) 01 Apr 2019 19:23:38
I don't like anything about Kanters game other than he is good for the blazers now as a substitute. All other options are better for future plans. Blazers don't have a full MLE, they signed Trent using it, and also Seth Curry. Kanter, M. Leonard is a wash. One plays post, one plays perimeter, both stink on defense. At least Leonard has some freakish size/ athleticism going for him.

9.) 01 Apr 2019 21:21:07
Kanter has one elite thing (rebounding) going for him. Most great bench players are one trick ponies, but elite at that one thing.

Yeah, I never really wanted Kanter in Portland. His defense isn’t just bad, it’s statistically the worst in the NBA of any center of the last few years (maybe second behind okafor) .

I think Collins is by far the best option starting center moving forward without Nurkic. He’s got the raw skills of a top tier defender, and has a lot of offensive moves that make me feel like he can be great if he figures it all out. Might as well give him all the minutes at the start of next year and those him into the deep end.

10.) 02 Apr 2019 02:08:26
Kanter can rebound.




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15 May 2019 01:19:38
As a Kings fan, I am kinda pulling for Dallas to win the lottery. Winning the lottery gives ATL the middle finger because Dallas was able to keep their draft pick AND move up for Doncic. It also gives NY the middle finger because not only do the Knicks not get Zion, but those future picks Knicks got in the Porzingis trade will probably be late first rounders.

Gotta love the drama!




13 May 2019 22:27:06
Just curious. Which is more valuable? Tashuan Prince or the 5th pick in the draft to get Hunter from Virginia?


1.) 13 May 2019 23:42:17
5th pick.

2.) 14 May 2019 01:44:18
5th by a lot.

3.) 14 May 2019 04:11:11
So Hunter at a higher salary > T. Prince.

4.) 14 May 2019 07:00:20
I assume you mean Taurean prince since tayshaun prince isn't a current nba player and hasn't been a relevant player in nearly half a decade. But I still do agree the #5 pick is more valuable because that player will be signed for 4 years and prince only 1 more year. And Taurean has already shown a lot about himself whereas the #5 pick's potential is still up in the air.

5.) 14 May 2019 14:01:03
Yea, Taurean Prince. Sorry, i'm old.



10 May 2019 22:45:29
Would it be ironic if Lebron got traded for Anthony Davis? I would literally LAOF.


1.) 11 May 2019 00:03:34
Lebron is worth about a quarter of Davis and I wouldn’t imagine the Pelicans would put much value in him.



03 May 2019 17:48:59
If the Kings waive all their cap holds, they will have $37 mil in available cap space. Can that get Vucevic from Orlando and Bogdanovich from Indy? Then Kings use their 2nd rounders to fill out the bench.


1.) 04 May 2019 04:35:49
If fox and Bagley take next leap then this team be leathal. got to trade Barnes and a future pick for a upgrade player would be even better.

2.) 04 May 2019 15:46:17
Would love to trade Barnes in a S&T for Durant (yes, total homer vision) . But will settle for a Jimmy Butler if Philly decides they cannot pay him.

Just curious. What does Barnes and a protected 1st get the Kings? Definately looking at the forward positions.

3.) 04 May 2019 16:38:36
Fredman, I doubt very much. Gallinari, Otto Porter, Love, or with a little more thrown in a guy like Aaron Gordon maybe?

4.) 04 May 2019 20:24:08
So basically someone who is overpaid (Porter/ Barnes straight up? ) . Might as well have added Wiggins to the list. PASS!

5.) 05 May 2019 01:16:38
I can’t see Porter for Barnes straight up. Porter is the better shooter and defender. He’s a guy anyone could use, if you don’t take into account salary.



18 Apr 2019 03:32:42
If the Kings offer Oubre 4 years/ $60 mil, does Phoenix match?

Matching this offer + salary cap hold for 1st round pick pretty much ties up most of Phoenix's available cap space (assuming Johnson opts in and Ferdette+Spalding are waived)

Phoenix prepared to go over the cap for a team that hasn't been close to the playoffs?


1.) 18 Apr 2019 06:32:03
I like that for kings. What if barnes opts out.




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19 May 2019 19:53:50
Lebron retires before even landing in Memphis?




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19 May 2019 19:51:32
Why do people believe Ball is worth the 7th pick? If I am Chicago I much rather draft Garland or White then get Ball.




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19 May 2019 16:07:49
#4 > #18 + Sabonis on last year of rookie deal before becoming a RFA.




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19 May 2019 13:49:20
Minor point. Knicks don't own 2 2020 2nd rounders.

Does adding Sabonis's + Davis salary (and the cap hold on keeping Mudiay and Jordan) impact the cap space available to sign Durant and Kyrie?




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19 May 2019 13:38:46
Clippers can trade their 2020 first immediately after Boston makes a draft selection using the Clippers 2019 first round pick per the Stepien Rule.

However, Lyles cannot be traded as he is entering his RFA per the CBA.





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