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15 Jun 2018 21:13:28
Clippers trade Tobias Harris, #12, #13, and 2021 1st rounder top 5 protected

Spurs trade Kawhi Leonard and #18

Why are the spurs including pick 18? They have to in order to get #12 and #13 due to the stepien rule. Clippers cannot trade both picks and not have a 1st this draft.
Spurs would get 2 lottery picks in this draft and tobias harris who is a 19ppg scorer on an expiring deal that could open cap room.
The clippers have leverage. If the lakers want him, they have to try to convince the spurs to take dengs terrible contract and the 24th pick with young players. any other team risks losing assets to get a 1 year rental. If clippers stand pat this offseason, they have cap room to sign kawhi straight up next season and bring him to LA.

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11 Jun 2018 19:09:17
Lebron surprises everyone and decides to go to the Clippers. So just like any other team in the NBA, they find a way to get it done. For them, it will have to be via sign and trade.

Clippers get Lebron
Cavs get Tobias Harris (expiring), Sindarious Thornwell, Jawun Evans, 12th Pick, 2020 1st round pick

Remember it's a sign and trade. The Cavs aren't forced to take anyone and the clippers could contact other teams to find a way to clear space. But in this scenario, the cavs get a good scoring piece and future picks.

Beverly/ Teodosic
Rivers/ Lou Will
Lebron/ 13 pick
Gallinari/ Harrell
Jordan/ Boban

They could even go over the cap using bird rights to resign avery bradley should austin rivers opt out.

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1.) 11 Jun 2018 20:08:43
he would be joining a roster that is arguably worse than the one he is leaving.


 

 

06 Jun 2018 18:08:31
Clippers Off-Season

Not expecting much to happen.

DJ, Austin Rivers, Milos all opt in.

Clippers keep 12 and 13 and draft Kevin Knox and Robert Williams

Clippers Resign Avery Bradley 1 year/ $12 million

Beverley/ Teodosic/ Evans
Bradley/ Lou Williams/ Rivers/ Thornwell
Gallinari/ Knox/ CJ Williams
Harris/ Harrell/ / Wes Johnson or Dekker
Jordan/ Robert Williams/ Boban

With this, they most likely play small off the bench with Teodosic/ Lou/ Rivers/ Knox/ Harrell bench. Obviously there are more than 15 players so i'd expect maybe guys like dekker or wes johnson or thornwell/ evans to be moved.

Why I don't expect much to happen and how they resign Bradley:
Bradley was hurt much of last year, he won't get that big of offers. Even if he does, unless the Clippers do a sign and trade, there's only 5 teams in the NBA that have cap space and only 1 has over $10 million. I think Bradley gets a 1 year prove it deal much like KCP with the Lakers.

After next season, everyone comes off the books except for Gallinari, Lou Will, and the rookie deal players. Why would they go out of their way to take on long, big contracts when they could play out 1 more season and have cap space for tons of improvement? Jerry West was brought in for a reason. There's a reason Blake was traded and that was financial freedom. They don't want to take on big contracts, they wanna build through rookies and sign big names to surround them with much like GSW and signing Iggy and KD.

Also, this team was close to the playoffs last season and missing manyyyyy starters and key players. They didn't have depth all season. Could be a sleeper.

Gpack17

1.) 06 Jun 2018 19:00:03
Let bradley go. Sign a plethora of other guys. Clips can stay competitive with a little scoring.


2.) 06 Jun 2018 19:15:55
BLOW IT UP.


3.) 06 Jun 2018 20:02:11
I think it's realistic, but I don't like it for the Clippers. They should force a trade for Gallo without losing picks and gather some more moving players like DJ and Lou, who don't fit in their timeline. Only Harris is a keeper.


4.) 06 Jun 2018 20:56:14
@btec who would they possibly sign? they are over the cap and can only use the MLE and vet minimums. Them resigning Bradley on a 1 year deal using his bird rights they can go over the cap and give him more money.

@Jalex this post is about blowing it up. But not giving up flexibility and assets in doing so. Like I said, after next season there's only gallo, lou, and rookies on the books.

@milpso trading gallo is ideal for them, but would be extremely tough to do. nobody wants that contract. Harris and dj would would all be off the books after next year anyways. Lou is a valuable asset because for only 8 mill/ year that is a perfect piece to trade to a contending team.


5.) 07 Jun 2018 04:25:27
Gpack, agree on abilty to resign but they lose a pick next season by making the playoffs, why go over the cap with so much incentive not to? Aren't they rebuilding? 12 and 13 are good picks but likely won't change games for at least a season or 2.


 

 

25 May 2018 18:01:28
Lillard is meeting with the Blazers ownership again, at his request. Does Paul Allen give his friend Steve Ballmer a call?

Lillard and Zach Collins

for

Beverley, Gallinari, picks 12 and 13

Blazers get a defensive minded PG to let Mccollum take the scoring. Gallinari is a big get on the wing and upgrade over aminu/ harkless in a position they have lacked in a long time. Picks 12 and future 1st help fill voids as well.

Clippers get star caliber starting PG. They get a big man that can stretch the floor and start at the 4 putting harris at the 3. Or could play the 5 if Deandre leaves. They keep the 13 pick and get a SF for the future depending on whose available from kevin knox or miles bridges.

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1.) 25 May 2018 18:57:49
That offer is horrible for a guy just named a top 5 player. Adding blazers future to boot in Collins is showing your love of clippers. Lil j worthy. Harris, Jordan, 12,13, next years first for lillard and Collins is more like it. Maybe Beverly too.


2.) 25 May 2018 19:20:10
Horrible trade for blazers! Gallinari contract sucks! Clippers would love to dump his salary. They couldn't give him away to any team with cap space! Lillaird and last years 10th pick for this years 12th pick and a future 1 that probably will be in 16-20 range with clippers upgrading roster by adding Lillaid, is not enough for a 1st team all star with 3 years left on current deal. Tobias Harris, bevery and 12th pick plus future 1st for Lillaird and only Lillaird no Collins is more plausible.


3.) 25 May 2018 19:20:45
That's pretty horrible. Collins has as much value as 12 or 13 (at least to Portland management and me) . Beverly and Gallo are walking injuries, both have played more than 60 games twice in the last 5 seasons.

Harris, Williams, both firsts, and take a horrible contract (Turner) would be the minimum Portland would consider for Lillard. Even then, there's probably nothing the Clippers have that actually entices Portland enough.


4.) 26 May 2018 14:50:45
I'm with Btec Eric and BMiller on this 110% That isn't even close.


 

 

23 May 2018 17:11:27
Clippers-Grizzlies

Clippers trade Gallinari, Wes Johnson, #13, future 2nd

Grizzlies trade #4, Chandler Parsons.

Gpack17

1.) 23 May 2018 17:40:04
That's awful for the Grizzlies. Gallo's contract isn't that much better than Parsons, Johnson has no value, and the gap between the 13 and 4 is huge. If it were that easy to move up every team 6 to 16 would throw a bid in and most would be pretty comfortable beating that offer including the Clippers. They would probably trade both of their picks for the 4 and think it's a steal. I'm not sure the 12 and 13 definitely gets you the 7th pick.


2.) 24 May 2018 16:44:53
in 2016, a european player, #13, and #28 got the suns the #8 pick. i'm sure that 2 lottery picks will get higher than 7. 2 lottery picks are very valuable, especially being back to back, and i doubt the clippers would even trade both of them.


 

 

 

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30 Nov 2017 21:55:05
All depending on if OKC and LAC continue to struggle.

Clippers trade Gallinari, Rivers, and brice johnson

OKC trades George and Abrines

George goes to a LA team that he grew up rooting for.

OKC gets an efficient SF locked up for a couple of years and a young SG to match up next to Russ.

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1.) 30 Nov 2017 23:19:22
Pretty hard pass from the Thunder. They could do better than this in a George trade. Especially, if they're willing to take some win now type players in it. Gallinari's injury history along with his contract make him being the main piece they get back in a trade for George way to big a gamble. I don't see Gallo as a negative asset, but it also wouldn't be find a trade partner for him.


 

 

02 Jun 2015 19:00:58
Clippers trade Jamal Crawford, Matt Barnes, Spencer Hawes, future 1st, future 2nd

Miami trades Dwyane Wade and their 2nd round pick this season.

Miami gets depth with Barnes backing up Deng, Hawes backing up Whiteside, and they get a scorer in Jamal who can come off the bench or start.

Clippers finally get a go to wing.

Clippers then sign Paul Pierce to taxpayers mid level.
then sign Ed Davis, Amare, Marcus Thornton, Wesley Johnson, Biyombo
Resign Rivers, Jordan Hamilton

Paul/Rivers
Wade/Thornton/Wilcox
Pierce/Johnson/Hamilton
Griffin/Amare
Jordan/Davis/Biyombo

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20 Jun 2018 15:49:27
I don't think that the clippers want to take on his contract. They would be losing cap space for next offseason. They could keep #12 and possibly get Sexton or SGA and pay them a fraction of Schroeder's cost for the next 4-5 years.

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19 Jun 2018 18:19:32
@carl006 as far as what was reported to the media, yes. The clippers offered blake for towns and were rejected. I have heard from people in the clippers front office that the twolves rebuttled with wiggins for blake and were rejected. Do people really think that all of a sudden wiggins is being mentioned as being traded? He was being offered before, they were just being unrealistic.

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19 Jun 2018 14:59:56
@rkenne_16 a big difference between the 2 is the fact that leonard is a free agent after this season. who is willing to give up more to get a 1 year rental if he wants to come to LA anyway? An expiring contract who averages 19ppg and a lottery pick? I would say it's going to be tough to beat that. maybe they even throw in fillers like Dekker and thornwell.

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19 Jun 2018 14:57:05
Clippers are not trading both lottery picks and their starting PG who they are very high on, who also has a very cheap salary, to move up 4 spots and get a draft pick years from now. If the clippers are going to trade both picks, they are getting into the top 5. If not, they stay put.

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19 Jun 2018 14:54:41
Lebron is not opting in. He has until June 29th to opt in or not. July 1st is the 1st day that you can technically speak with free agents. Lebron is expected to take a little while on his decision. I doubt he opts in. If so, he would not want to go to Minnesota.

Even if he did, this trade is not close to enough. Wiggins has lowered his trade value soooo much as of late. He was even offered straight up for Blake Griffin and the Clippers said no because nobody wants to take on his contract. it raises from 25 to 33 million each year over the next 5 years. Unless he's considered a superstar, it's a waste of cap room that could be used to sign an actual superstar.

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