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20 Jun 2017 21:19:11
Celtics-Bulls

Celtics receive Jimmy Butler
Bulls receive #3, 2018 Brooklyn first pick, and 2019 memphis pick

Jperkey5

1.) 21 Jun 2017 01:55:51
Good trade could see this exact trade being done.


2.) 21 Jun 2017 22:37:22
If Boston rejected the Bulls offer of Bulter for the #3 pick straight up what makes you think they would then be willing to give up 2 more future 1st round picks for him? Plus as a Celtics fan I don't get why there are rumors about us going and trading for Butler or George. We have Bradly and Crowder at those positions respectively. What the Celtics really need is a proven power forward or a proven center that would allow Horford to move to the power forward. Don't get me wrong Butler and or Gorge would be nice to have but why give up assets for them when we could give up assets for a position like we actually need. I would rather trade for someone like Porzingus if possible.


 

 

20 Jun 2017 05:14:37
Celtics-Bulls

Celtics receive Jimmy Butler

Bulls receive #3, 2018 Brooklyn pick, 2019 Memphis pick

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24 Aug 2016 15:57:21
Around trade deadline the Bulls should trade if not working out.
First:
Butler to Philly (Bulls could add a little more)
Bulls get 2017 philly pick, lakers pick and maybe one of bigs.

Wade to Cleveland for some picks and young talent.

Then Bulls can tank and get maybe 3 top 10 picks in a loaded draft and have a very quick rebuild already having Portis and Valentine.

Jperkey5

1.) 24 Aug 2016 16:36:37
If the Sixers pick is 2018 instead of 2017, then I'd trade 2018 phi, Lakers and a big for Butler.

I wouldn't think twice about it.


2.) 24 Aug 2016 17:33:53
I agree and it would work out for philly as well. They are a good guard away from becoming a playoff team. I just don't think the offseason the Bulls had this summer is really setting them up for success for years to come. I think they put a bandaid on the organization that will work for one year max possibly.


3.) 24 Aug 2016 17:37:22
Bulls are trying to win now so this is mid season deal of that project fails. Value wise. I like the deal for both teams. It would be Okafor lakers pick and 2018 Sixers pick. The 2017 pick is a swap with the Kings and the Sixers are going to include that.


4.) 24 Aug 2016 18:00:34
The Sixers could very easily be worse then the kings this year making the swap irrelevant.

I'm moreso thinking 2018 because then the Sixers would still have thier pick in 2017 and still the kings in 2018. Just being selfish I guess. If they had to do 2017, I'd prolly still pull the trigger.

It would be a good haul for Chicago either way.


5.) 25 Aug 2016 06:19:07
The thing you guys have to understand about the bulls is their ownership is trash, maybe even worse than the Kings. Jerry Reinsdorf only wants to sell tickets on this mediocre team so that they still make a profit. Thibadeau wanted to draft Draymond Green and was very adamant on getting him, but the owners wanted Marquis Teague, as they already had a decent front court. There's no way Butler gets traded because the owners want another star to lean on like they did Rose.


6.) 27 Aug 2016 21:00:08
This would never happen. But if it did, I'd call it genius. Winners all the way around in my eyes. Although in 2-3 years CLE would be left with a shell of a team with Wade being completely out of form and Lebron FINALLY showing some age, having a huge contract on Love (for no reason) and Kyrie getting pissed because wade/ Lebron won't let him take 50 shots a game.


 

 

17 Jun 2016 18:32:15
Bulls 76ers

Philly gets Jimmy butler and Taj Gibson
Bulls get lakers pick, philly 2017 pick Dario saric. Kings 2019 first round pick

Bulls-Dallas

Dallas get Mirotic #14
Bulls get Dallas 2017 First round pick Dwight Powell

Tank next year and draft Josh Jackson if they get the chance. Say lakers pick is 4th get a PG. trade Dallas and Philly pick for and the Kings pick they own for top ten pick and draft a center

1- Rose- Fultz
2- Snell- Fultz
3- Jackson- McDermott
4- Portis- Fa
5- Bolden/ Jarrett Allen- felciano.

Jperkey5

1.) 17 Jun 2016 19:50:47
I don't think this is necessarily too much for butler, but the Sixers can't trade thier own first in 2017 because then they'd also lose the kings swap rights.


2.) 20 Jun 2016 16:42:30
Too much for Butler. 4 lottery picks.


3.) 28 Jun 2016 04:07:33
All dallas needs
Dwill jlin dleague standout
Matthews lance Stevenson d league
Parsons Crawford Anderson
Dirk mirza teletovic powell
Dwight Howard mejri McGhee.


 

 

08 Jun 2016 16:48:48
Chicago Bulls complete rebuild
Maybe possible but a stretch.

Chicago- Boston

Chicago gets 2016-2018 picks from nets James young
Boston gets Jimmy butler,

Chicago-Philly

Chicago gets 2017 lakers pick,2019 pick (from Sacramento), Kendall Marshall
Philly gets Derrick Rose

Chicago- San Antonio
Sign and trade

Chicago gets 2019 first round pick (protected 1-14)
Spurs get Gasol

Chicago-Minnesota
Sign and trade

Chicago gets Lavine and future second
Minnesota gets Joakim Noah

Chicago-Dallas

Chicago gets 2018 first round draft pick
Dallas gets Mirotic and Taj Gibson

A bit of a reach but each trade is not outrageous. Thoughts?

Jperkey5

1.) 08 Jun 2016 17:08:44
The Minnesota trade is outrageous.


2.) 08 Jun 2016 17:13:53
I just think thibodeau will do a lot for Joakim so maybe the Bulls could pry Lavine away since his defensive may not be up to thibodeaus standards


3.) 08 Jun 2016 17:21:11
It would be shabazz then I think. But I heard the wolves will just sign Noah.


4.) 08 Jun 2016 17:26:42
too much for rose.


5.) 08 Jun 2016 17:31:53
wow that's a lot of moves. but all the trades seem fine.


6.) 08 Jun 2016 18:00:04
So. instead of just signing Noah, because you know. he's a free agent. Noah will agree to help the team that is basically forcing him to leave by making his new team, which he wants to go to, give up one of their top prospects and a pick?

And san Antonio the same? Maybe the butler trade, maybe the mavs trade. the rest are just nonsense.


7.) 08 Jun 2016 18:06:14
Way too much for rose as said above.

I don't think that the Minnesota trade is "Outrageous" (Lavine is an ok player), but why would Noah want his new team to give up a decent player for him when he could just sign with Minnesota instead?


8.) 08 Jun 2016 18:06:48
Why would Minnesota trade a talented young player in LaVine for a guy they can just sign as a free agent? Minnesota has more than enough cap space to do it.


9.) 08 Jun 2016 18:51:13
Okay so scratch the Timberwolves for sure. But what if then bulls add snell in the 76ers trade


10.) 08 Jun 2016 18:51:44
Okay so scratch the Timberwolves for sure. But what if then bulls add snell in the 76ers trade


11.) 08 Jun 2016 19:06:48
Why would Philly trade a almost guaranteed top 5 pick for an now often injured, last year of his contract player? And you want another 1st round pick as well?

Rose just doesn't have anywhere near the value you think he does. I don't think any team would be willing to trade anything meaningful for him right now.


12.) 08 Jun 2016 19:07:05
Snell doesn't move the needle for me personally. Like I don't think the sixers senario is close at all.


13.) 08 Jun 2016 19:38:54
Rose is as dead value as anyone in the league. Last year of his deal. worst production of career. Huge cap hit. Injury risk and to top it all off he has an attitude problem. Even if he does return to form the guys is bolting the first chance he gets.

Rose isn't even worth a top twenty pick at this point.


14.) 09 Jun 2016 17:42:37
Why would the Sixers give up two lottery picks for Rose?


 

 

 

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23 Aug 2016 14:57:14
Does anyone have any ideas on how the Bulls could pull out as many draft picks from 2017 draft as possible. 2018 could be included as well.

Jperkey5

1.) 23 Aug 2016 22:31:46
The Celtics and 76ers I believe have the most high caliber draft picks and the Bulls biggest asset is Jimmy Butler so dealing him to either team (Boston would be the better natural fit) should net you one high draft pick minimum and some other assets (maybe two) . I don't think either those teams or very many others would be interested in Wade or Rondo. Players like Portis, Mirotic, Valentine and maybe McDermott should be able to fetch you mid-late 1st rounders and due to their experience in the league but still being relatively young a lot of teams would probably be interested.


 

 

22 Jul 2016 16:48:59
Does anyone have thoughts or ideas on what the Bulls should do to be able to really contend in let's say 5 years or less.

Jperkey5

1.) 23 Jul 2016 00:14:44
I think trading Rose for Lopez was the right type of move turning the team over to Butler and gaining an underrated quality starting big. Took a very big step in the wrong direction adding Wade and Rondo. They had a very good young player in Butler that they should've built around with promising young pieces like Portis and Valentine and through free agency add supplementary pieces closer to Butler's age.

Now I think their best bet is to go all in the next two years and add younger supplementary free agents next summer and once it inevitably doesn't work out let Wade and Rondo walk and blow up the team and trade Butler before he walks for nothing. Then they rebuild similar to the way Nuggets did after trading Melo which will take much longer than 5 years to get back to contention but if done right will give them much more promising prospects (Nuggets are still a few years away but one of most promising and young asset heavy teams in the league)


2.) 23 Jul 2016 03:22:26
The bulls should've traded J. Buttler for a top 5 pick and went young.


3.) 23 Jul 2016 05:28:36
I think bulls trade rondo or Wade by deadline.


 

 

16 Jun 2016 22:53:41
Idea for the Chicago Bulls

This is best time ever to start over and rebuild. The Bulls have a few players with some value and next years draft is the best one of the decade. No better time to start a rebuild.

Trade Jimmy to Celtics for #3 2017,2018 nets picks. 2017 Celtics pick.

Trade Derrick Rose, taj Gibson, Mike Dunleavey to philly for lakers pick, 2017 philly pick, and Dario saric.

Trade Mirotic and #14 to Dallas for 2017 first round pick and 2018 second round pick

Now the Bulls will obviously be very bad.

Draft buddy Heild with number 3 this year

Next year best case scenario:
Bulls get first and draft josh Jackson
Lakers pick turns out to be 4th. Draft Fultz or Dennis smith for Pg. say phillys pick is like 10th draft And kings pick 11th which then goes to Bulls. Trade those two for like 7th and draft marques bolden or Jarrett Allen for center. You still have Dallas pick as well
2017 lineup:
Fultz/ Moore
Heild/ Snell
Jackson/ McDermott
Portis/ Fa
Allen-Bolden/ Feliciano

Most likely still won't be good yet 2018
Draft Whatever is needed or trade for veteran.

Not as lucky scenario.
Bulls get top 5 pick draft PG. or jayson Tatum.
Lakers pick is in top 3 so no pick. Philly does well and isn't lottery. And drafts Malik monk to go with Tatum or Miles bridges to go with PG. Dallas does well and they draft a late Round Center. Definitely won't be good in 2018 and still don't get top 3 pick but can round out the lineup.
Unlucky Lineup
Fultz-Dennis Smith/ Moore
Snell/ 2018 pick
Bridges/ McDermott
Portis/ Fa
Late pick/ Feliciano

Could still be bad in 2019 and grab another player since it would still be in the window of the quick rebuild.

If the second option happens then that's unfortunate. Still could maybe have promise is draft really well. The first option could lead to a dynasty though and in the NBA now days that's what you need to shoot for.
Thoughts please!

Jperkey5

1.) 17 Jun 2016 00:44:01
The sixes trade is a huge joke right?


2.) 17 Jun 2016 00:54:48
Sixers*.


3.) 17 Jun 2016 02:01:29
Celtics don't give up all there top picks for butler. If they do, it's a heavy price, but butler is a stud. The sixers trade is just ridiculous.


4.) 17 Jun 2016 15:25:06
The Celtics don't have Brooklyn's 2017 pick. They just have the swap rights and if I'm correct you can't trade swap rights.


5.) 18 Jun 2016 03:34:49
2018 Draft has Deandre Ayton and Michael Porter.


 

 

10 Jun 2016 05:56:45
Bulls do what ever it takes to get Josh Jackson next year!

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26 Aug 2016 16:16:17
As a Bulls fan. I would love to see this trade. Bulls aren't going anywhere with there current roster. Getting as much picks as you can in next years draft. Bulls can tank and get maybe 2 top10 picks. Also have kings possibly in lottery and cavs down the road in a loaded draft. Quick turn around is possible.

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24 Aug 2016 17:33:53
I agree and it would work out for philly as well. They are a good guard away from becoming a playoff team. I just don't think the offseason the Bulls had this summer is really setting them up for success for years to come. I think they put a bandaid on the organization that will work for one year max possibly.

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21 Aug 2016 16:51:40
Man would I love this trade to happen as a bulls fan.

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20 Jul 2016 19:48:48
First off Dunn is way more mature than a regular rookie because he stayed until his senior year. And second off the wolves are doing anything in the playoffs this year anyways. Most likely they would make 8th seed and get swept. So might as well get Dunn some time especially since Rubio is hurt a lot anyways

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20 Jul 2016 15:54:14
Why would the wolves not do this though...?
You have Dunn to start right away which you want and all you trade is Rubio for a top 5 pick. I'm down.

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