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19 Sep 2018 20:13:22
Wolves - Knicks

Knicks get - Butler (resigns)
Wolves get - THJ Thomas and Ntikilina

Irving
Butler
Knox
Porzingis
Robinson

Wolves - Nets

Nets get - Butler (resigns)
Wolves get - Crabbe and Levert

Russell
Harris
Butler
RHJ
Allen

Wolves - Clippers

Clippers get - Butler (resign)
Wolves get - Harris Johnson and Robinson

Gilgeous-Alexander
Bradley
Butler
Gallo
Harrell

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1.) 19 Sep 2018 21:10:20
Net's aren't giving up enough. Knicks probably aren't either. I think Minny would rather take Kanter and waive him over taking THJ's contract.


 

 

18 Sep 2018 17:23:14
4 nba trades, Give thoughts

1. Hawks get Vucevic and Augustin
- Gives Trae Young help on offense
Magic get Lin and Dedmon
- Gives Magic a starting PG and 2 exp deals

2. Pistons get Gordon
- Get much needed perimeter shooting/scoring
Rockets get Johnson and Leuer
- Get a lockdown perimeter defender and stretch 4

3. Bucks get Whiteside
- Gets a rim protector/great rebounder
Heat get Delly and Henson
- Gets true backup PG and backup C

4. Clips get McCollum
- Gets a go to scorer and better chance at getting Kawhi (trade Gallo)
Blazers get Bradley and Harris
- gets defensive backcourt partner for Lillard and much need forward scoring
-

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1.) 18 Sep 2018 19:33:53
@ NBA16, No team wants Whiteside. He's an overpaid head case on and off the court! I think the Bucks would rather stay with Over paid players in Henson and Dellavedova. Not quite as much of a distraction on and off the court.


2.) 19 Sep 2018 00:19:09
I would love to take Whiteside if he came with one of Heat’s SFs (Richardson or Winslow) . The fact that Whiteside is thought to be a headacase only serves to lessen his perceived value. Everyone agrees Whiteside had a down year last year right. He still averaged 14 pts. 11 rebs. And 2.5 Blks. He suffered through several injuries as well. He arguably had a better year than Kevin Love in a down year. Give me this guy any day.


3.) 19 Sep 2018 12:53:03
Magic hung up lol.


 

 

18 Sep 2018 15:49:07
Suns get Beverley

Clips get Bender

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1.) 18 Sep 2018 16:56:00
Beverley would start for the Suns. Bender might not make it into the Clippers' rotation.
Phoenix has a core it won't disrupt, but the rest of the roster is not that valuable.


2.) 19 Sep 2018 16:31:35
The Clippers are not trading Beverley unless it really entices them. It would have to involve one of Bridges, Jackson, or a 1st. The only other thing that makes sense is if they work a bigger deal to include the TWolves and Butler.


 

 

15 Sep 2018 22:00:42
If Butler would resign

Nuggets get - Butler

Wolves get - Harris, Lyles, and 2019 1st

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1.) 16 Sep 2018 00:11:16
Why again would the nuggets gut their team when they could just sign him?


2.) 16 Sep 2018 14:57:01
How are theey hitting there team. There trading Harris for Butler plus giving up a pick and a player. Yep players for a way better player is not gutting your team. If the Lakers trade for Davis that is gutting your team.


3.) 17 Sep 2018 13:32:56
Butler isn't way better than Harris with age and contract.


4.) 17 Sep 2018 16:09:39
Um, perhaps the point is that Butler is an expiring contract and Davis is locked in for multiple years?

They are getting Butler for a year, then he leaves, and to get that, they give up their future PF who is 22, their future SG who is 24, and this years 1st round pick.

Seriously, do you realize how basketball works?


 

 

15 Sep 2018 21:50:25
Suns get - Rubio

- Gets perfect pass-first defensive PG to pair w Booker

Clippers get - Warren

- Gets much needed forward depth. Harris is expiring and Gallo is injury prone

Jazz get - Beverley, Marjanovic, and Suns 2019 2nd

- Gets 3 and D PG to go alongside Mitchell as he needs to be primary ball handler & a good backup C

Rubio
Booker
Jackson
Ariza
Ayton

Gilgeous-Alexander
Bradley
Gallo or Warren
Harris
Harrell

Beverley
Mitchell
Ingles
Favors or Crowder
Gobert

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1.) 15 Sep 2018 23:07:48
When has rubio known for being great defense. He looks great behind gobert. He plays the passing and is risk taker for steals. Great passer 1st.


2.) 16 Sep 2018 02:37:44
Perfect example of only looking at stats. Rubio gets high steals at the risk of giving up points by being too aggressive. He’s actually bad at defense. Agree with shizzee.


3.) 16 Sep 2018 05:48:27
Pretty good trade all around. I think Utah passes. They like Rubio and Beverly is not better so they do not want to make a change unless they get an upgrade at PG. Marjanovic and Suns 2nd are not enough to move the needle.


4.) 16 Sep 2018 15:00:32
To me Rubio play solid defense he not perfect but better then Walker and Thomas plus many others who are better players then him.


5.) 17 Sep 2018 16:11:53
Rubio had no effect on/ off for defense. Walker had a positive defensive impact. And thomas is the only other comparison you give, who is literally the worst defender in the league?

Good one again.


 

 

 

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18 Sep 2018 15:48:09
Suns get - Delon Wright

Raps get - Dragan Bender x 2nd

Wright/Okobo
Booker/Bridges
Jackson/Warren
Ariza/Anderson
Ayton/Chandler

Lowry/Van Fleet
Green/Miles/Powell
Kawhi/Anuoby
Ibaka/Siakam/Bender
Valanciunas/Monroe

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1.) 18 Sep 2018 22:23:45
Nobody want Bender.


2.) 19 Sep 2018 17:10:57
they should get Beverly or Bradley of Clippers. Clippers has too many decent guards.


3.) 19 Sep 2018 23:18:04
Raps are a better team with wright I think for their 1-season kawhi Leonard-crap shoot. I'd have to think that is the primary objective of ujiri, to win now.


 

 

04 Sep 2018 17:33:23
Name your top 5 what if players. Players who had great potential but either dealt with injuries or a bunch of off the court issues

My Top 5
1. Derrick Rose
2. Tracy McGrady
3. Greg Oden
4. Gilbert Areans
5. Brandon Roy

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1.) 04 Sep 2018 19:32:32
Two of those should be in their primes with the Blazers right now. I’m going to go cry.

Roy was amazing, he’s probably #1 to me. I think there would have been comparisons on who was better between him and Wade had he stayed healthy. An all time top 5 SG if healthy.


2.) 04 Sep 2018 23:09:32
Marvin Barnes.


3.) 05 Sep 2018 02:11:53
Sabonis is really high on my list too. He’s one of the greatest centers in basketball history. His passing ability was the best of a big I’ve ever seen. Put him with Drexer, Porter, Kersey, and how many rings do they win?


4.) 05 Sep 2018 06:39:57
Rose and Roy definitely are great. Rose won the MVP and is not even on his prime that time. Roy could win one too. How about Grant Hill?


5.) 05 Sep 2018 09:15:38
The eighties had R Sampson (original twin towers) and Sabonis, he could have been Shaq, before Shaquile o neal

And the two biggest stars in the 90' were P Hardaway and G Hill.

And a few big man had good careers (like B Griffin), but they could have been better without injuries. C Webber, E Brand, A Mourning, Y Ming, .

And what if S Kemp didn't had a drug problem?

My top 10
1) P Hardaway
2) G Hill
3) d rose
4)R Sampson
5) Sabonis
6)T Mcgrady
7) Y Ming
8) G Oden
9) A Mourning
10) S Kemp.


6.) 05 Sep 2018 17:24:57
Wade
Roy
Stat
Bosh
Bynum.


7.) 06 Sep 2018 02:24:31
Oden did nothing. Now how is grant hill not on that list. Smh.


8.) 06 Sep 2018 15:58:11
Isn't the fact that he did nothing the point shizzee?

His second year, he had a PER of 23. He had a top tier defensive rating. And from what I remember, he just LOOKED like he was taking that next step.


9.) 06 Sep 2018 16:32:02
Agree Bmiller, the last time we saw Oden completely heathy was the 2007 National Championship game, where as a freshman, he was man handling 2 upper class man and future allstars in Joakim Noah and Al Horford.


 

 

26 Aug 2018 16:22:55
Malik Monk or Buddy Hield?

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1.) 26 Aug 2018 17:29:47
Monk. He is 4 years younger, still has time and space to develop.
Hield really hasn't show much.


2.) 27 Aug 2018 04:41:34
I also take Monk.


3.) 27 Aug 2018 17:43:29
Definitely Hield. Yeah, I get the age, but both were chosen because of their shooting abilities. Monk could only hope he gets to Hield's level.

Again, Hield this past year shot 43% from 3. that's elite levels. He was number 9 in the league.

Monk has shown nothing to make one think he will be an elite shooter. Heck, his fg percentage was 36.

Im not huge on hield, but to say he hasn't shown much, he was selected as a shooter and in 3 years, shot over 41% from 3. He is exactly what people hoped for.


4.) 27 Aug 2018 23:02:40
Monk had a pretty stiff up tick in stats toward the end of the year. I’d probably go Hield, but not by much.


5.) 29 Aug 2018 12:57:56
Hield, i like his shooting.
But Monk still has potential to become the better player.


 

 

23 Aug 2018 03:15:53
Kings get - THJ and Thomas (exp unless picks up 1m team option)

Knicks get - Shumpert and ZBo

Fox
Hield
THJ
Bagley
WCS

Ntikilina
Lee
Knox
Porzingis
Kanter

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16 Aug 2018 19:28:11
who would you rather have?

Donavan Mitchell or Devin Booker?

NBA16

1.) 16 Aug 2018 19:49:22
Mitchell.


2.) 16 Aug 2018 20:18:09
Factoring in contract situations? Mithcell

Ignoring contracts (I get either with a 5 year max deal) : It's a wash. Booker has better stats across the board, but Mitchell is on a more successful team (with a MUCH better team around him) . This might be a question that is asked for the next decade.


3.) 17 Aug 2018 00:03:29
Booker does not have better stats across the board. They shoot the same percentage. Booker has led his team to nothing. Mitchell as a rookie led his team to the playoffs. Booker doesn’t play defense. Mitchell is a beast all around.

Taking into account contracts or ignoring, Mitchell 100 times out of 100.


4.) 17 Aug 2018 00:10:15
Mitchell proved he can be the first option on a good team until Booker can do that it’s hard to argue he’s the better option. There are just to many players that have put up big stats on bad teams to know how good they are and how much of it’s just empty stats.


5.) 17 Aug 2018 01:36:46
Booker is small version of Minnesota's Kevin Love. Mitchell all the way.


6.) 17 Aug 2018 18:14:02
rkenne: Without Gobert, Utah was 11-16. Mitchell isn't the main reason that team is good. Gobert is.

Not trying to discount anything Mitchell does, he's absolutely great. But saying that team success is the reason one is better than the other isn't fair, because Mitchell plays with a MUCH better team. Not everyone is drafted into a perfect situation like Mitchell was.


7.) 17 Aug 2018 19:26:21
Great point bmiller. And since booker has been drafted. And since he has been the leader of the team.

They haven’t had a season with a winning percentage over 30%

Gobert is a part. And clearly so is Mitchell. Jazz lost their best player. And barely went down in performance.

Mitchel. Flat out.

Booker isn’t a top 30 player. He only provides scoring. Nothing else. And he scores as efficiently than Wiggins. I mean this is his first year cracking 50% eFg. That’s pitiful.

I honestly think he is the most overrated player in the league. It was Wiggins. Until he got that extension and everyone realized it was an awful move.


8.) 17 Aug 2018 23:16:38
No way Mitchell is considered a top 30 player yet either.

Booker’s best teammate so far has been.? I honestly have nothing. Warren? (Wow, that’s horrible if he’s the best) .

Considering a top 10-15 scorer that’s 21 the most overrated player in the NBA is silly. he's not Lebron or Kobe, but he’s really good. Comparing him to Love or Cousins is probably fair. And both of those guys are really good.

Can you win a ring with booker as your #1 option? Probably not. Can you with Mitchell? I don’t think so either.


9.) 18 Aug 2018 10:25:36
Mittchel, but it's a close one.


10.) 18 Aug 2018 15:13:31
Didn’t booker just sign a max contract?

Doesn’t booker shoot at a horribly inefficient rate?

Doesn’t booker lack basically every other facet of the game?

No one says booker has a great supporting cast. But the worst team ever since he was drafted, kinda says something. He is essentially Andrew Wiggins with less size. Awesome. Empty points and lots of losses.


11.) 18 Aug 2018 17:48:59
I’d take Booker over Wiggins any day. Atleast Booker has shown real progression. Plus, he can shoot and pass.


12.) 18 Aug 2018 23:23:42
Booker and Mitchell are about the same in efficiency. So if ones is horrible, the other is too. In terms of PER and true shooting, Booker is better than Mitchell. Booker is also a solid rebounder and has good assist numbers for a SG.

Also, from the eye test, Booker has just always been great each time I’ve watched him. An absolute stud offensively.

What other facets of the game do stars need anyway. If you’re good enough offensively, the rest is on the role players to make up. It’s been that way in the NBA for a long time.


13.) 20 Aug 2018 12:45:33
Booker is worse on defense, has more turnovers, played on a team where he could shoot every shot and no one would care. Booker has a smaller skill set compared to Mitchell and has been in the league 2 years longer.


 

 

 

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19 Jul 2018 05:44:15
Lonnie Walker.

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