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22 Jun 2017 17:36:01
I think they NYK would be insane to trade KP, and I think BOS would be insane tonnit try and get him.

NYK: J Brown, #3, 2018 BKN pick

BOS: K Porzingas

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 22 Jun 2017 18:28:34
Zinger is really good but that's just to much for him.2 lotential too 3 pics.


2.) 22 Jun 2017 19:16:17
Goatface, that seems like a reasonable asking price. The only big in the game with more upside than Porzingis is possibly Towns.


3.) 22 Jun 2017 19:37:17
Embiid has more upside then both of them, but then again I'm a homer.

I think brown should be replaced with smart or Bradley in this scenario or something else should go to boston.


4.) 22 Jun 2017 19:43:50
It's rumored Knicks are asking exactly for that package PLUS Crowder.

Celtics should counter without including Crowder and get it done. If they can Sign Hayward, that would be a very good team

IT/ Rozier
Bradley/ Smart
Hayward/ Crowder
Horford/ Olynyk/
Zinger/ Zeller.


5.) 22 Jun 2017 23:48:44
Agreed, porzingis is legit a top 5, probably top 3, prospect to build around at this point. He has an incredibly diverse offensive game, great rebounder, and what seems to get not as much attention, he is already considered an elite big man defender.

Boston is looking for a missing pioece. They aren't trying to build for 5 years from now. They would be willing to sacrifice the picks, especially seeing as they have a bevy of others in the future.

For the knicks. i'd say no. i'd prefer just keeping Porzingis, bunch him with hopefully smith, and then wait out the removal of melo ina year or two, and noah can be stretched.


 

 

21 Jun 2017 22:44:20
BOS: D Jordan

LAC: A Bradley, T Zeller, #3 pick

BOS sign G hayward

IT
Smart
Hayward
Horford
Jordan

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 22 Jun 2017 01:43:04
Celtics would have to waive Zeller's non-guaranteed contract as well as renounce rights to all its FA just to be able to sign Hayward to the 30 mill per year max he'll demand. Celtics would have to move close to another 15 mill in order to be able to get Jordan and still sign Hayward.

I think the wisest move would be to try and incorporate Horford and some of their future 1sts in the trade for Jordan (I think they'd benefit from a natural center who can dominate on the boards and lock down interior defensively) and try to retain the #3 pick. Then move #3 and Crowder and Bradley (basically matches salary) to get Butler and then they'd still have close to enough to sign Hayward.


 

 

19 Jun 2017 21:23:28
Suns rumored to want to move up for Ball

LAL: #4

PHO: #2 & Deng

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 19 Jun 2017 22:29:47
I think it makes sense for both teams. If Lakers aren't in love with any prospect #4 is a solid place to be since Jackson or Fox would still be available depending on what Celtics do (sounds like Jackson) .

Taking on Deng doesn't hurt a team like the Suns that much but then again the value between #2 and #4 isn't astronomical and cap space does have a lot of value with many teams looking to shed bad deals from last summer.


2.) 20 Jun 2017 00:24:19
Allow PHX to send Knight to the Lakers. and it's a deal. So, it's #2 and Deng for #4 and Knight. Lakers still reap about $5m per year in contract values.


3.) 20 Jun 2017 01:51:46
Like it. Fox to the Lakers and clear space necessary to sign George next year makes sense.

Suns get Jackson, which is the best fit for them, and have Deng as a veteran presence behind him.


 

 

16 Jun 2017 18:30:45
LAL: #5, #17, G Monroe (exp), A Afflalo (exp)

SAC: #2, L Deng

MIL: #10 & T Mozgov

SAC can take Fultz (if BOS takes Jackson), Ball, or Fox

LAL can take Ball, Fox, Jackson, Tatum, or Isaac with #5 & Bam Adebayo (who I like) or Harry Giles at #17 and dump both bad contracts.

MIL moves up in the draft from #17 to #10 to take a better prospect.

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 16 Jun 2017 18:40:56
So the lakers drop from 2 to 5, rid themselves of deng AND mozgovs contracts AND get the 17th pick? Ok. Never going to happen.


2.) 16 Jun 2017 18:57:40
So Milwaukee gives up Monroe and his big contract, plus the 17th pick, to get Mozgov and his big contract, and the 10th pick? Whoever the Bucks want will be there at 17. Monroe is still a better player than Mozgov. The Bucks say No!


3.) 16 Jun 2017 20:50:48
I'm sorry you don't like that the Lakers come out on top with these moves. But look at each individual transaction and see if the value is fair

SAC gets #2 (choice between Fultz, Ball, Jackson, or Fox presumably), and Deng. He has a bad contract, but since nobody will sign with the Kings because they're a mess, it doesn't really hurt them. Gay is opting out and leaving so they need a SF/ PF. They give up #5 and #10 which are good picks, but #2 is much closer to a sure thing as far as somebody becoming an all star. The kings haven't drafted well (except for Cousins) over the last decade, this increases their odds of landing a future star (all star) caliber player.

MIL gets a bad contract in Mozgov, but he does provide some solid backup minutes at center. Right now they're very young and raw at that position; Monroe came off the bench and didn't get a ton of minutes, Henson is so inconsistent and Makr is very raw. Monroe only has one more year, they can trade him now (assuming he doesn't exercise his player option) and move up to a top 10 pick in one of the deepest drafts in a while. No matter what they do, they can't beat LeBron's team in the playoffs, trade Timo in his expiring year for a 2nd rd pick or 2.


4.) 16 Jun 2017 22:02:58
As far as raw, Spencer Hawes (Vet) also is a backup Center in Milwaukee, 7'1" 265 lbs. Plus Maker (Rookie), Plus Henson, (Vet) Plus Monroe, (Vet) So, Actually, The Bucks are pretty well set. Monroe didn't get a ton of minutes? are you kidding? e led all Centers in Milwaukee in minutes! As far as "Labron's team" Whose to say HE will be back next year? Why trade Mozgov for a 2nd rd. pick or 2, When if they want to trade someone it would be Monroe. he has more value that Mozgov. I'm not concerned about the Lakers, They have enough problems and issues themselves. As far as fair value, no, None of it! Enjoy the Ball family! You draft One, and get TWO! A player in Alonzo ball, AND apparently an assistant Coach in Lavar Ball! Then again These choices are just suggestions made by us, Non-Team members, the real Trades will com by the teams themselves, and apparently Anyone can see that the Bucks and kings would pass. Why would they want to make another team better than themselves?


5.) 16 Jun 2017 23:06:42
Laker trade ideas always the same, let's shed two terrible contracts on smaller market teams. Because after all we are the Lakers and we are entitled. Blah Blah Blah- Both Milwaukee and Sacramento pass. Keep paying those bucks to Deng and Mozgov L. A.


6.) 16 Jun 2017 23:14:01
Dude Monroe averaged 22 mpg last season. Those are backup minutes. That goes to show how weak they are currently (we'all see how Maker develops) at C if he logged the most minutes at 22 per game at C. Hawes is listed as PF, but it doesn't matter. Plug somebody else in Monroe's spot whose making similar money to Mozgov on an expiring deal to make it worth the Lakers wild. I don't want Monroe, his contract fits with clearing cap space in 2018.

The point is they trade a guy who's playing only 22 mpg for a bad contract to move up 7 spots to get into the top 10, which most experts are saying is 10 or 11 deep this year. I don't understand how that's not fair value for them?

The King's deal is solid for both teams. The #2 pick THIS year is an all star (I have my doubts about Ball, but Fultz and Jackson are) . They don't need more rookies, they need GOOD rookies. Here's their draft track record.

#8 Chriss (traded for Pappgiannis)
#6 WCS
#8 Stauskus
#7 McLemore
#5 T Robinson
#7 Biyombo
#5 Cousins*
#4 Evans
#12 J Thompson
#10 S Hawes.


7.) 17 Jun 2017 00:24:36
That deal is terrible for the Kings and fairly bad for the Bucks. I think you're blinded by your own fandom.


8.) 17 Jun 2017 03:59:16
DUDE? Are you 12, or close to it? Monroe played more at Center than Maker, Hawes, or Henson, They split the remaining minutes. You speak like YOU own the Lakers? "I don't want Monroe? " This is R-E-A-L basketball, Not "Fantasy" basketball. Why aren't YOU a GM somewhere if you have all this wisdom? As rkenne_16 stated, and I agree. This is terrible for the Kings, and bad for Milwaukee. Find some other team (s) to take the Lakers crap! Have fun with the Ball family!


 

 

15 Jun 2017 23:12:27
SAC: Deng, Mozgov, #2, #28, 2021 lottery protected 1st rd pick

LAL: Afflalo (exp), Galloway (exp), #5, & #10

2018 Lakers should have enough to sign George & Cousins.

2018: If Ball one Fox fall to #5

Ball or Fox/Clarkson
Russell/Ingram
George/#10
Randle/Nance
Cousins/Zubac

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 16 Jun 2017 02:33:17
Hahaha so dillusional. 5, 10 and shed 35 million for the 2? Just stop.


 

 

 

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23 May 2017 22:38:42
If Knicks continue to push Porzingas' buttons you think he might demand a trade?

Would Lakers #2 pick be fair value for him in this draft?

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 24 May 2017 01:11:15
#2 and i would add Clarkson or Randle or both?


2.) 24 May 2017 01:12:41
2nd pick isn't enough and even if he demands a trade they control him for 3 years at the minimum. He doesn't have any real power to force a move.


3.) 24 May 2017 18:04:46
couldn't he always just go back to playing in his home country even if the knicks control him?


4.) 25 May 2017 14:16:04
Larry legend, no. He's under contract in the NBA. He can't sign a contract and play else where. The Knicks would have to agree to a buyout. Which they won't do. It's the same as NBA teams having to wait on Euroleague contracts to expire or to be bought out, but those contracts are normally negotiated with the player ultimately going to the NBA in mind. The NBA contracts don't have an out unless the team is ok with the player moving on.


 

 

10 Mar 2017 20:59:55
Just a theoretical scenario:

LAL:
2017 Get #2 pick (L Ball)
2018 sign P George
2018 trade D Russell & T Mozgov for S Adams ($24M salary on his new contract)

'18/'19 Season

PG: Ball/Ennis
SG: George/Clarkson
SF: Ingram/Brewer or Deng
PF: Randle/Nance Jr
C: Adams/Zubac

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 12 Mar 2017 18:06:12
Not sure if Thunder would do that trade since Oladipo would still be under contract and Westbrook although a FA could resign. Solid value tho.

Lakers are in a good spot however with a bunch of young assets and if they can use some of them to move Deng and Mozgovs contracts they have cap space to get max guys like George and Westbrook who both from Cali and have expressed interest in playing for Lakers. Not to mention having Magic there now as someone they both probably idolized growing up helps the pitch that much more.


 

 

27 Jan 2017 22:57:57
I remember about a year ago arguing with Knick fans and/or Melo fans about his lack of value. He's an Iso player who can't D up and can be a team cancer. Now look at all the teams who have no interest in trading for him; teams who are contenders this year. Cavs & Celtics.

Your best hope is to trade him for nothing except a salary dump to the LAC. Maybe a future 1st (right to swap in 2019? ). LAC can't trade a 1st until 2021 I think?

LAC: Melo

NYK: Crawford ($14.25M in 2017, only $3M guaranteed in 2018), W Johnson ($5.9M in 2017, Player Option 2018), & P Pierce ($1.1M guaranteed in 2017).

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 28 Jan 2017 02:16:12
I think Melo can be a very valuable piece on the Clippers but to most teams in the league he offers very little value. I think the other major factor that hurts his value is his no-trade clause and that he has publicly stated that he only really wants to go to 3 teams. I think this is a foolish thing to do for his career and he would be wise to expand the teams he is willing to go to. If he is willing to go to Cleveland I don't think Lala is the problem (she shouldn't be anyway she knew she married a bball player)


2.) 28 Jan 2017 19:13:23
Knicks want none of hat deal. Crawford is too expensive. And likely it'll drag a few weeks to get a good not great deal. It isn't that he has no value. It's just complicated because of his contract.

Also. The other part of all your arguments was the glorious Lakers rebuild lol. Guess we were all wrong 😉


 

 

20 Jan 2017 19:10:44
MIN: D Howard

ATL: N Pekovic, S Muhammad, '17 1st (via MIN #6), T Ross, P Patterson, L Nogueira, and '17 1st from TOR (via LAC #25)

TOR: P Milsap

MIN:
Rubio
LaVine
Wiggins
Towns
Howard

TOR:
Lowry
DeRozan
Carroll
Milsap
Valanciunas

ATL:
Schroeder
Hardaway JR
Bazemore/ Muhammad
Patterson
Nogueira/ Pekovic/ Splitter

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 20 Jan 2017 23:15:35
Don't like it for Minnesota. I think KAT is most dangerous at center and I think they are better off keeping their pick and adding another young piece to their core than adding a 31yr old and paying him 20+ mill per year.

I think Hawks should deal Howard and Millsap (too bad you can't trade your record too) . The return on Millsap isn't good. The raptors can and should do better.


 

 

26 May 2016 20:29:17
If Cavs get blown out of finals, I can see LeBron trying to create his super team. He can't leave until he wins a championship for CLE like he said he came back to do.

LAC: K Irving '17 1st rd pick (via CLE)
NYK: K Love, L Williams, N Young, '16 2nd rd pick (#32 via Lakers) and '17 2nd rd pick (via CLE)
CLE: C Paul and C Anthony.
LAL: R Lopez

LAC:
Irving
Redick
FA
Griffin
Jordan

NYK:
Calderon/ Grant
Wroten/ Galloway/ Williams
Batum (4 @ $80M)
Love
Porzingis

CLE:
Paul
Smith
James
Anthony
Thompson

LAL:
Russell
Clarkson
Ingram
Randle
R Lopez.

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 27 May 2016 00:19:14
I don't see this likely but it kinda makes sense for all teams. I don't think it happens although it would likely improve Cavs for a few years they would be a mess once these guys start to seriously regress where in keeping Irving and Love they'd start to enter their primes as Lebron is on his decline which will increase their window to compete for a championship. Also, Irving and Love could likely attract the next superstar player if they stick together.


2.) 27 May 2016 13:46:54
I love that this is a solid 3 team trade that doesn't include the lakers. But somehow, the Knicks agree to a trade with the lakers that gets masked as a 4 way trade.

So you think the Knicks will give Lopez for Lou Williams. Nick young. And the 32nd pick? You are out of your mind. I expected better nld.


3.) 27 May 2016 14:56:17
The only reason I included the Lakers is cause they'd be overpaying Lopez to be a backup center. Lopez has 3 years left in his deal. Williams has 2 and Young has 2 (with a player option on his last year) . This gives the Knicks an early 2nd rounder which they are rumored to want to buy anyway.

I wasn't trying to sneak them into this deal, it's about LeBron being desperate for another ring and forcing his desired team in the ownership. You can take the Lakers out and this trade still stands up.


4.) 27 May 2016 17:18:07
Lopez is a starting center. No clue what you are talking about. He was one of the few solid players on the knicks this year.

IF this trade happened, big if, they would still love Lopez and just do a 3 man rotation between Love, Porzingis and Lopez. There is zero reason as to why the knicks would give him up, especially for those 2 terrible contracts which become what, the 3rd string sg and the d-league for young?

It makes no sense. Lakers would be taken out. Knicks could always flip Lopez for worthwile assets if they wanted to. Not young and williams.


5.) 28 May 2016 00:31:11
What's even funnier is that you go. Oh the lakers are being nice. They are offering to help take that backup center. That backup center goes from the Knicks STARTING center to the lakers STARTING center. Wait before the Knicks? Oh two years as the Blazers STARTING center. Before that? Year as the hornets STARTING center. See a trend?


 

 

 

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25 Jun 2017 16:30:30
Doesn't LeBron have a no trade clause?

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22 Jun 2017 19:43:50
It's rumored Knicks are asking exactly for that package PLUS Crowder.

Celtics should counter without including Crowder and get it done. If they can Sign Hayward, that would be a very good team

IT/ Rozier
Bradley/ Smart
Hayward/ Crowder
Horford/ Olynyk/
Zinger/ Zeller.

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19 Jun 2017 17:05:18
No way Lakers facilitate a trade that sends P George to another team.

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19 Jun 2017 17:04:23
I don't think that's good value for Russell, here's my tweak.

And the only way I'd be OK with this trade is if D Smith can be drafted at #10 and the Lakers pick Jackson at #2.

SAC: Russell and Deng

LAL: #10 and Afflalo

McLemore is a RFA this summer and I don't think is worth tying up cap space for him. They need cap space for summer if 2018 to try and sign P George and another max player (D Cousins is my hope) .

2018:
D Smith
P George
B Ingram
L Nance
D Cousins.

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19 Jun 2017 16:42:20
And Paul george leaves you guys high and dry for LA after one season.

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