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23 May 2017 17:28:58
LAL draft L Ball #2

LAL: J Butler, R Rondo, A Afflalo, & A Tolliver

CHI: J Clarkson, C Brewer, D Russell, B Ingram

SAC: L Deng & '17 1st (via HOU)

In 2018, dump Mozgov's salary (attach 2020 1st if need be).
Let go of Rondo, Afflalo, & Tolliver

Sign P George & D Cousins

2018:
Ball
Butler
George
Randle/Nance
Cousins

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 23 May 2017 18:12:10
Laughable.


2.) 23 May 2017 21:24:59
You don't want it to happen? It's not likely to happen? Or those trades and signings are impossible?

You don't think Chicago would trade Butler away for that? If so, it's not that far away, that's a pretty big return.


3.) 24 May 2017 00:52:21
We all think your valuation of Lakers assets is beyond foolish. You think that the lakers get star and keep the pick. Just stop. Seriously.


4.) 24 May 2017 03:21:50
Very unrealistic.


 

 

20 May 2017 20:17:02
LAL: J Butler

CHI: C Brewer (exp), D Russell, #2 pick

Sign P George in 2018, Butler & George will attract other free agents to sign

PG: FA
SG: Butler
SF: George
PF: Randle/Nance
C: FA

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 20 May 2017 20:45:38
Lakers say no. We have no incentive in trading for a superstar to try and build a contender right now. Warriors and Cavs will dominate the NBA for the next 5 seasons which will be right on par for when Russell, Ingram, Randle and Lonzo will start to hit their prime.


2.) 20 May 2017 20:52:07
You still have Deng and Mozgov's contracts to deal with.


3.) 20 May 2017 22:45:03
@carl Which is why we shouldn't try to build a contender right now. Their contracts will expire by he time we are ready to compete.


 

 

18 May 2017 17:11:36
LAL: A Afflalo, A Tolliver, #3 pick

SAC: T Mozgov, J Clarkson, J Randle

PHI: D Russell, #10 pick

LAL: Draft Ball & Jackson #2 & #3, Adebayo #28

Have about $40M in cap space if Young opts out and release T Black

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 18 May 2017 18:33:17
This is awful for SAC…They give up the 10th pick, and take on the NBA’s worst contract in Mosgov? This would get everyone fired.


2.) 18 May 2017 19:25:07
They get 2 young prospects in Clarkson and Randle and keep their #5 pick. They add assets with this. Nobody of relevance is going to sign with them in free agency. With Gay opting out and Tyreke being a free agent, this helps them with getting to the salary floor while turning 2 assets (#5 and #10) into 3.


3.) 18 May 2017 20:30:00
Good luck to all Lakers fans in getting rid of Deng and Mozgov contracts.


4.) 18 May 2017 21:20:06
How long are clarkson and randle going to be considered "young prospects"?


5.) 18 May 2017 21:37:37
Not sure why Kings would do this. Randle would be a poor fit alongside their centers and will be due big bucks in a year. Clarkson makes a decent amount of money already and although a solid player Kings can get a player with more upside at #10. Mozgov is a bad contract and cap space is valuable even to a bad team that won't be able to sign top FA. Teams will always be looking to dump bad contracts and will give up assets to move them. Lakers aren't giving up enough to convince Kings to give up their #10 and take on this salary when they can get a better fitting prospect at #10 and still have cap space to take one of Portlands bad contracts for one of their 3 firsts.

76ers are coming out ahead with Russell who would be a better fit than Jackson due to his shooting ability and still keep a lotto pick where they could add a solid prospect (ideally a guard like Ntilikina or Smith) .


6.) 18 May 2017 22:22:26
Well Randle is only 22 and Clarkson is 24, you tell me when they stop being "young prospects"?

I remember reading that statistically, around 27 to 28 is on average the most productive age of a player.


7.) 18 May 2017 23:50:37
Isn't Randle an expiring contract? Isn't clarkson a backup and nothing more? Get out of here with this junk.


8.) 19 May 2017 00:36:15
Sixers keep #3 and give LA back their 2018 first round pick instead.


 

 

17 May 2017 21:52:28
Ok ok, I'm in the minority here, I disagree but will take that and modify the trade.

LAL: Saric #3 pick

PHI: #2 pick

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 17 May 2017 23:10:25
I could see Lakers trading down if they didn't want Ball but not sure why 76ers would trade up (Lakers would be showing their hand by showing interest in this type of trade) . Ball likely wouldn't be a great fit with Simmons who both are most effective with the ball in their hands running the offense. If Lakers take Jackson I think 76ers should just take Tatum who wouldn't be the defensive force Jackson projects to be but would give them a go-to scorer and even more length in the frontcourt.


2.) 18 May 2017 01:13:04
I like Ball's game, but think he and his dad will be a distraction. I'd rather the Lakers draft Jackson if Fultz goes #1. Ball has questionable defense (see game against Kentucky), horrible shooting mechanics, and questionable motor. He'd be worth the risk without the offcourt stuff.


 

 

17 May 2017 17:30:28
LAL: #3 pick & J Okafor

PHI: D Russell future 2nd

or

LAL: #3 pick

PHI: T Mozgov, D Russell, future 2nd

If PHI wants a PG, I think they'd be better off drafting Ball or Fox, whoever is available at #3.

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 17 May 2017 17:43:17
Russell definitely isn't worth a top 3 pick in this draft. Not close.


2.) 17 May 2017 18:01:34
Wow another delusional Laker fan.


3.) 17 May 2017 18:46:06
If Fultz and Ball go #1 and #2, who's a better PG than Russell? He still has 2 years on his rookie contract and he can play off the ball more if Simmons is going to run point forward. He's probably a better fit than anyone else if those other 2 PGs go #1 and #2.


4.) 17 May 2017 18:54:22
NLD, except for the part where you want Philadelphia to either give up another asset or take on Mozgov's terrible contract.


5.) 17 May 2017 19:06:24
NLD, who's better after Fultz and Ball? Let's see, Jrue Holiday, Kyle Lowry, Chris Paul, etc. They have the cap space to sign any of these guys, and they don't need to give up an asset like the #3 overall pick for them.


6.) 17 May 2017 19:28:51
Gtfoh with this.


7.) 17 May 2017 21:50:49
fox is better. and likely 2-3 others in the draft

smith, monk, that french dude, etc.


8.) 17 May 2017 21:58:31
Fox has the potential to do it all his shot isn't the best but the form is good and he started to look good from range and if he can even become league average from behind the arc he would be better then Russell.
Monk may wanna try a move to pg his athletic ability, his first step, ability to guard pg's and shooting capabilities all would shine at pg if he could develop some floor general skills he could be much like some of the modern day pg's like Curry, Lillard, Kyrie etc which would make him better then Russell.
If Dennis smith jr stays healthy he has some unnatural gifts that would make him better then Russell.
So far Russell has been underwhelming not that he's a bad player he jus hasn't lived up to expectations hence why he's in trade rumours.


 

 

 

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23 May 2017 22:38:42
If Knicks continue to push Porzingas' buttons you think he might demand a trade?

Would Lakers #2 pick be fair value for him in this draft?

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 24 May 2017 01:11:15
#2 and i would add Clarkson or Randle or both?


2.) 24 May 2017 01:12:41
2nd pick isn't enough and even if he demands a trade they control him for 3 years at the minimum. He doesn't have any real power to force a move.


 

 

10 Mar 2017 20:59:55
Just a theoretical scenario:

LAL:
2017 Get #2 pick (L Ball)
2018 sign P George
2018 trade D Russell & T Mozgov for S Adams ($24M salary on his new contract)

'18/'19 Season

PG: Ball/Ennis
SG: George/Clarkson
SF: Ingram/Brewer or Deng
PF: Randle/Nance Jr
C: Adams/Zubac

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 12 Mar 2017 18:06:12
Not sure if Thunder would do that trade since Oladipo would still be under contract and Westbrook although a FA could resign. Solid value tho.

Lakers are in a good spot however with a bunch of young assets and if they can use some of them to move Deng and Mozgovs contracts they have cap space to get max guys like George and Westbrook who both from Cali and have expressed interest in playing for Lakers. Not to mention having Magic there now as someone they both probably idolized growing up helps the pitch that much more.


 

 

27 Jan 2017 22:57:57
I remember about a year ago arguing with Knick fans and/or Melo fans about his lack of value. He's an Iso player who can't D up and can be a team cancer. Now look at all the teams who have no interest in trading for him; teams who are contenders this year. Cavs & Celtics.

Your best hope is to trade him for nothing except a salary dump to the LAC. Maybe a future 1st (right to swap in 2019? ). LAC can't trade a 1st until 2021 I think?

LAC: Melo

NYK: Crawford ($14.25M in 2017, only $3M guaranteed in 2018), W Johnson ($5.9M in 2017, Player Option 2018), & P Pierce ($1.1M guaranteed in 2017).

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 28 Jan 2017 02:16:12
I think Melo can be a very valuable piece on the Clippers but to most teams in the league he offers very little value. I think the other major factor that hurts his value is his no-trade clause and that he has publicly stated that he only really wants to go to 3 teams. I think this is a foolish thing to do for his career and he would be wise to expand the teams he is willing to go to. If he is willing to go to Cleveland I don't think Lala is the problem (she shouldn't be anyway she knew she married a bball player)


2.) 28 Jan 2017 19:13:23
Knicks want none of hat deal. Crawford is too expensive. And likely it'll drag a few weeks to get a good not great deal. It isn't that he has no value. It's just complicated because of his contract.

Also. The other part of all your arguments was the glorious Lakers rebuild lol. Guess we were all wrong 😉


 

 

20 Jan 2017 19:10:44
MIN: D Howard

ATL: N Pekovic, S Muhammad, '17 1st (via MIN #6), T Ross, P Patterson, L Nogueira, and '17 1st from TOR (via LAC #25)

TOR: P Milsap

MIN:
Rubio
LaVine
Wiggins
Towns
Howard

TOR:
Lowry
DeRozan
Carroll
Milsap
Valanciunas

ATL:
Schroeder
Hardaway JR
Bazemore/ Muhammad
Patterson
Nogueira/ Pekovic/ Splitter

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 20 Jan 2017 23:15:35
Don't like it for Minnesota. I think KAT is most dangerous at center and I think they are better off keeping their pick and adding another young piece to their core than adding a 31yr old and paying him 20+ mill per year.

I think Hawks should deal Howard and Millsap (too bad you can't trade your record too) . The return on Millsap isn't good. The raptors can and should do better.


 

 

26 May 2016 20:29:17
If Cavs get blown out of finals, I can see LeBron trying to create his super team. He can't leave until he wins a championship for CLE like he said he came back to do.

LAC: K Irving '17 1st rd pick (via CLE)
NYK: K Love, L Williams, N Young, '16 2nd rd pick (#32 via Lakers) and '17 2nd rd pick (via CLE)
CLE: C Paul and C Anthony.
LAL: R Lopez

LAC:
Irving
Redick
FA
Griffin
Jordan

NYK:
Calderon/ Grant
Wroten/ Galloway/ Williams
Batum (4 @ $80M)
Love
Porzingis

CLE:
Paul
Smith
James
Anthony
Thompson

LAL:
Russell
Clarkson
Ingram
Randle
R Lopez.

NewLakerDynasty

1.) 27 May 2016 00:19:14
I don't see this likely but it kinda makes sense for all teams. I don't think it happens although it would likely improve Cavs for a few years they would be a mess once these guys start to seriously regress where in keeping Irving and Love they'd start to enter their primes as Lebron is on his decline which will increase their window to compete for a championship. Also, Irving and Love could likely attract the next superstar player if they stick together.


2.) 27 May 2016 13:46:54
I love that this is a solid 3 team trade that doesn't include the lakers. But somehow, the Knicks agree to a trade with the lakers that gets masked as a 4 way trade.

So you think the Knicks will give Lopez for Lou Williams. Nick young. And the 32nd pick? You are out of your mind. I expected better nld.


3.) 27 May 2016 14:56:17
The only reason I included the Lakers is cause they'd be overpaying Lopez to be a backup center. Lopez has 3 years left in his deal. Williams has 2 and Young has 2 (with a player option on his last year) . This gives the Knicks an early 2nd rounder which they are rumored to want to buy anyway.

I wasn't trying to sneak them into this deal, it's about LeBron being desperate for another ring and forcing his desired team in the ownership. You can take the Lakers out and this trade still stands up.


4.) 27 May 2016 17:18:07
Lopez is a starting center. No clue what you are talking about. He was one of the few solid players on the knicks this year.

IF this trade happened, big if, they would still love Lopez and just do a 3 man rotation between Love, Porzingis and Lopez. There is zero reason as to why the knicks would give him up, especially for those 2 terrible contracts which become what, the 3rd string sg and the d-league for young?

It makes no sense. Lakers would be taken out. Knicks could always flip Lopez for worthwile assets if they wanted to. Not young and williams.


5.) 28 May 2016 00:31:11
What's even funnier is that you go. Oh the lakers are being nice. They are offering to help take that backup center. That backup center goes from the Knicks STARTING center to the lakers STARTING center. Wait before the Knicks? Oh two years as the Blazers STARTING center. Before that? Year as the hornets STARTING center. See a trend?


 

 

 

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23 May 2017 21:24:59
You don't want it to happen? It's not likely to happen? Or those trades and signings are impossible?

You don't think Chicago would trade Butler away for that? If so, it's not that far away, that's a pretty big return.

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21 May 2017 10:57:37
Gasol has player option, can't just let him go if he opts in.

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18 May 2017 22:22:26
Well Randle is only 22 and Clarkson is 24, you tell me when they stop being "young prospects"?

I remember reading that statistically, around 27 to 28 is on average the most productive age of a player.

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18 May 2017 19:25:07
They get 2 young prospects in Clarkson and Randle and keep their #5 pick. They add assets with this. Nobody of relevance is going to sign with them in free agency. With Gay opting out and Tyreke being a free agent, this helps them with getting to the salary floor while turning 2 assets (#5 and #10) into 3.

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18 May 2017 15:14:45
I'm cool with either scenario.

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