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16 Aug 2018 00:29:31
Raps and Celtics

Raptors send
Jonas Valanciunas, Fred Vanvleet, 2019 2nd, 2020 1st

Boston sends Kyrie Irving , 2nd round pick

Only If Boston thinks Irving will bolt ....

1 year rental for sure and a lot of money spent at the pg position . Irving or lowry can both play the 2 spot and with defenders like green , kawahi, Siakam , anunoby and hopefully Ibaka can be half the defender he used to be that side of the court should be fine .

Dynamic game changer like Irving raps can win us the east
Probably only have a 1 year window anyway, kawahi and Irving may both bolt but while we have the a player of this talent possibly for only 1 year go all in.

The raps first rounder in 2020 May be high if they both leave Also

For Irving I understand it's not enough but between injury issues , 1 year left, and u have other players that will be relegated to the bench for Irving and why upset them if he may leave a year later? Boston needs a true big and jv has decent range , great power , shoots ft pretty good and has stretches where he is really dominant .

Raps now have Monroe and Ibaka can play the 5.

Massai knows it's this year or bust


1.) 16 Aug 2018 01:25:20
I can't stand it. Lol
Why. WHY. would Boston help out their biggest rival to get to the finals.
They would let Irving walk before they would trade Irving to Toronto, even if it were for Leonard.

2.) 16 Aug 2018 02:21:23
Lmao C's fans are going to crucify you for this idea.

3.) 16 Aug 2018 02:22:59
Terrible for the Celtics and I don't think raps can trade 2020 having already traded 2019.

4.) 16 Aug 2018 03:35:28
The draft choices are worthless, Van Fleet probably doesn't crack Boston's rotation and Valanciunas is not the type of player the Celtics want. He might not even beat out Baynes. On top of that, Danny Ainge would be run out of town if he traded Irving to a team that might then have enough firepower to knock out the Celtics in a 7-game series.

5.) 16 Aug 2018 03:54:36
Not happening if Boston traded Kyrie it would be to the west.

6.) 16 Aug 2018 05:03:52
Irving for Melo is more fair.

7.) 16 Aug 2018 11:34:13
Irving for Melo is fair? What are you smoking?
Melo is lucky to be a top 50 player. There's a reason he's played on so many teams. he sucks.

8.) 16 Aug 2018 13:07:45
Ooh, I like Kyrie for Melo, though C’s might have to throw in a pick to get him.

Of course C’s don’t make this deal. Val is underrated, but Horford makes more sense for the way the C’s play at the 5, sending Val to the bench. It’s ridiculous to say Van Fleet doesn’t crack the rotation, but he becomes the backup to Rozier if this trade were to happen.

That effectively means two bench players, and two high picks for a team that’s already stocks with them. That equals a terrible return for Irving.

9.) 16 Aug 2018 16:43:47
You might get Kyrie Eleison for Melo Just not Kyrie Irving.

10.) 16 Aug 2018 23:59:39
Right supercollider. Let me guess. John walll. Lillard. Embiid. And Giannis wouldn’t crack this worlds greatest rotation.

Such a hyperbolic nut. The fact that you are talking up a backup center as if he’s this amazing thing goes to show. You are dillusional.




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16 Aug 2018 00:43:43
Too bad derozan isn't a rap anymore. Was hoping he would have harder to reach stats and go down as the best raptor until the next star comes.
I think that played into him wanting to stay also , hard to be a franchise leader in multiple stats , even if the raps are only 20 something years young.
Players don't stay their whole career and teams don't keep them that long anymore usually.

Paul pierce (who I never liked as a player or person with terrible opinions) needs to get off that "players have no loyalty" tip.

Easy for him to say when he had a rare career to spend 15 years with a franchise .
He is super overrated and accomplished nothing until Garnett and Allen came. Pretty sure they were bottom feeders with him prior to that year. Yet always has someone to judge.
Toronto and derozan , Indiana and lance there's plenty of examples of teams not being loyal it works both ways.

The truth


1.) 16 Aug 2018 18:47:45
Player loyalty is a joke. Teams have zero loyalty. Fans have little loyalty. But players are supposed to have some? It’s a business, and players should make the best decision for them. In any other job/ industry, you have the choice to move to where you want to live and work where you want to work. But pro at athletes aren’t allowed? That’s garbage.

Complaining about stars leaving to find more help is crap too. Not everyone is draft in a situation like Jordan (with Pippen and Jackson), or Bird (how many hall of famers was he surrounded by? ), or Magic (again, how many hall of famers did he play with? ) . If Jordan’s best teammate was Mo Williams his first 8 years in the NBA, he would have left Chicago.

2.) 17 Aug 2018 00:08:45
Paul pierce. 6 years before the addition of Garnett and Allen. 4 made the playoffs. When he was the major star of the team. The year they were bottom feeders, pierce missed half the year.

Next point.

3.) 17 Aug 2018 00:45:12
In those 6 years they had a losing record . with all that history u shouldn’t brag about 6 years that Wernt even 500 ball.
You can however brag about getting swept in 2 of those playoff appearances, or the 1st round exits, or never reaching 50 wins, only getting more then 45 wins once .

Ya next point indeed. Next point is Allen and Garnett came the year after they won 24 games and won a championship . yea he didn’t ride any coat tails there.

To your point that he only played half that season . the season prior to that they only won 33.

Guess your right he may be top 5 all time . or a slightly above average player that hit some big shots and got over rated .

My point had more to do with him judging about other people and making bone headed remarks . But next point.

4.) 17 Aug 2018 06:00:34
Peirce was a great player and might have been underrated really, but he’s a terrible analyst.




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05 Sep 2018 05:27:25
Lol they all say no obviously . Thought this Cleveland packages of junk for solid players was guna stop now .

No offence but

None have very much value adding in the close to 30 mill for the 3 of hill Korver and nance brings that value a lot lower .

Those players like hill and Korver u need to look towards contenders wanting veteran help, shooting in Korver a case. Not the Pistons after u remove their starting pg and pf.




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05 Sep 2018 05:20:15
Butler is not a top 15 player . Boarderline top 25-30.




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05 Sep 2018 05:14:06
Tie thy both lose
Either way dragic being the best player on Miami is very questionable. 17 mill for a serviceable starting pg

But he’s not “old and end of his career at 31” he can
Prob get another few years around his 17-4 line . unless they bring in some real stars and take his shots away

A first round pick shouldn’t be in the mix for either player.




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05 Sep 2018 05:03:57
Yea got to be fair . Gordon is completely the same class as Davis .
Possibly. in other sports

However in basketball -Gordon , a raw talent that could only wish to evolve into Davis and a mid first doesn’t cut it.

Plus Ross and Vucevic are good nba players why renounce then before a trade?




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04 Sep 2018 04:13:55
Makes sense to me. Steph curry and kid to raps for Norman Powell, Ibaka . because I’m tired of not winning a ship.





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