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06 Jun 2017 18:02:51
NY sends Anthony to Kings for Georgios Papagiannis.

Knicks improve rebounding, defense, free throw shooting.

Kings beef up their bench.


1.) 06 Jun 2017 19:57:58
Dude you really need to get a life. You are giving us Celtic fans a bad name.

2.) 06 Jun 2017 21:41:22
obnoxious in that he nonstop fills up all posts regarding melo as too much for him and celtics, not enough. again. we get it. melo needs to be packaged with 4 1sts in order to get an expiring, and the 12th man on the celtics team is worth a high lottery pick. we will all note that for all posts. just give it a rest.



28 May 2017 11:51:15
Thomas for Cousins.


1.) 28 May 2017 12:42:36
Interesting. This would give the Pels the ability to save significant cap space this summer, let Holiday walk and put a shooter with Davis and IT.

C's get a big who would be more likely to re-sign in Boston than NO. He's exactly what they need, and if they keep number 1 and take Fultz, they still have a point guard for the future, and additional cap space to make another significant move.

2.) 28 May 2017 13:17:23
I have a feeling Boston didn't want Cousins (due to character issues) since if they did they could've easily outbid the final offer Kings traded him for. That being said from a bball standpoint he'd be a very good fit for them.

Pelicans getting IT isn't awful and Holiday could potentially play sg if they still chose to resign him (they likely wouldn't be able to land a better FA with their limited cap space) . It would make it a more traditional lineup but I think the thought of a Cousins and Davis pairing once they'd had an offseason together is too attractive to break up.

3.) 28 May 2017 14:27:06
Jaw -- If you believe in conspiracy theories, here's one for you. At the trade deadline Thomas tossed shade on Cousins, who as you say has a checkered history. But bear in mind that if the Celtics brought in Cousins, he would have taken at minimum 6-8 shots a game from Thomas. Thomas has his eyes on the next big deal, and needs huge numbers to get it done.
My thinking is that as the No. 1 pick, Fultz has to play. And eventually he has to play the point. That squeezes out Thomas, and right now Thomas's value is at its peak. Celts need to make room for both Fultz and Brown next year, so there have to be moves.

4.) 28 May 2017 15:39:07
I don't think IT is enough to get Cousins from NO. They're better off with Holiday and Cousins. The Pelicans have something nobody else in the league can guard.

5.) 28 May 2017 16:55:53
Celtics fans want quit on there best player like Phil Jackson on Melo. Cousin has not won anywhere. Bradley Crowder Nets 1st 2018 is nice package. Celtics resign Green. Move Brown to SG. draft Jackson

IT/ Smart/ Jackson
Brown/ Rozier/ Thornton
Green/ Jackson/ Nader
Horford/ Yabusele/ Mickey
Cousins/ Olynyk/ Zizic.

6.) 29 May 2017 17:16:09
Its intriguing because it gives Pels more cap to sign a SF. I'd be intrigued to see this in a 3 team trade where Pels shed Moore or Hill contract and get a upper echelon SF . Other than that i think they pass.



01 Mar 2017 14:57:42
Isaiah Thomas for Lillard.
And the Celtics throw in Ainge.


1.) 01 Mar 2017 15:24:57
So Portland trades a guy locked in long term for a guy with one year left, and they don't address their biggest problem (two undersized guards who can't defend)?

Maybe if Boston throws in another solid piece (Bradley, crowder, brown) .

2.) 01 Mar 2017 17:32:21
I'd argue Lillard is better than Thomas, he is also younger and signed longer term. Either way not sure how this makes either team much better. A 1 for 1 swap of two offensive pgs doesn't really make sense especially for Portland since Lillard is more valuable.

3.) 01 Mar 2017 20:36:48
Thomas, Bradley and Rozier for Lillard and McCollum.

4.) 01 Mar 2017 21:45:38
Lol, so Portland now sends out two guards locked in long term, for two on expiring deals and a minimally valuable bench player. That's worse than the original deal. Throw in the 2017 nets pick and I might do it. Even then I probably wouldn't, because Thomas and Bradley probably both walk after next year.

5.) 02 Mar 2017 14:27:24
OK, how about Thomas, Smart, Brown, Bradley, the No. 1 this year and the No. 1 next year for Al-Farouq Aminu?
That fair?

6.) 02 Mar 2017 17:49:38
How about crowder, brown, and the 2017 nets pick for Lillard. You can then flip Thomas for whatever you want.

My point is valid though. Portland is NOT a destination. Trading long term contracts for expiring deals leads Portland into the Nets void of hell. Except Portland would still have all of their crappy contracts (crabbe, Turner, Leonard), so they wouldn't even have cap space. They would be screwed for the next 4-5 years.



10 Feb 2017 14:08:56
Lakers' Nick Young to Celtics for James Young.
Before you go nuts, consider that the Lakers absolutely have to tank and finish with a top-3 draft pick or they lose it to Philly. If they acquire and play James Young serious minutes, that will just about guarantee finishing with one of the three worst records, and after that it's up to the Ping Pong balls.
Second, the deal keeps Nick Young and D'Angelo Russell (huge feud) away from each other -- and that also helps LA.

Boston, meanwhile, dumps a player who is not going to make the team next year anyway and gives the Celtics an opportunity to move Avery Bradley for much-needed big.


1.) 10 Feb 2017 16:14:46
Sorry Supercollider, there's no way DA would do that.
I do believe Avery will be part of a deal for a big and him still out is just a precaution so he doesn't get hurt in the next 2 weeks.

But Nick Young? Too much drama with that dude, Izzy would be trying to walk into the shower after the games. I'm sure you remember Madonna's episodes.
Also, I'd be afraid he'd pick up his player option next year.

James Young will be waived next year though, his slot will probably go to one of the players stashed overseas not included in a trade here soon.

2.) 10 Feb 2017 16:17:36
If the price is right and they can't make a deal for Butler or Paul George, Carmelo Anthony could be in green. I can't believe I just said that!

3.) 10 Feb 2017 17:47:43
What do you mean if the price is right?
Anthony is like a sidewalk sofa with a free sign on it. If Boston took him, Phil Jackson would owe Ainge a favor a day for the rest of their lives.

4.) 10 Feb 2017 18:10:51
Wow billj. was that an Iggy Izzalia reference? As in the girl that he broke up with like 8 months ago? Go on.

5.) 10 Feb 2017 18:50:36
Sorry there hamburger, I don't keep up with who they are sleeping with like you seem to be. My point was, he's drama.

Supercollider, if he had free sign on him he'd be with the Cav's right now, don't you think? Cleveland doesn't want him because Gilbert doesn't want to lose 50 million plus after he balances his check book this year. If Boston took him for nearly nothing Phil would make the deal NOW. So my "If the price is right" is exactly what I said if the price is right on Melo Boston will take him if he can't get Butler or George. And I just don't want Nick Young on the C's.



05 Jan 2017 21:36:58
FYI -- Prosportsdaily. com saying that the Bulls have made Jimmy Butler available for trade.


1.) 05 Jan 2017 22:08:58
Ok, so propose a trade.

2.) 05 Jan 2017 22:12:12
Jae Crowder, Jaylon Brown, Brooklyn pick
draft Markelle Fultz.

3.) 05 Jan 2017 22:31:05
Jae Crowder, Jaylen Brown and 1st Nets pick
Draft Markelle Fultz.

4.) 05 Jan 2017 23:21:22
They probably need to blow it up and start over. Keep portis. Keep wade (because he's the local guy, unless he asks to be moved due to the rebuild) . Move everything else for youth.




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05 Mar 2017 20:02:07
Bulls and Celtics
Bulls had their shot at offloading Butler for a significant haul, but blew it. Trading him to Boston now would give the Celtics one less year with him, and that drops his value considerably.
Celtics balked at Bulls' ridiculous asking price (No. 1 this year plus three from the group of Bradley, Smart, Crowder and Brown), so the most Ainge would probably give this summer is two pieces.
Given Brown's play of late, my guess is he's untouchable. That means Chicago's best haul would be the No. 1 and either Bradley, Crowder or Smart. Plus maybe Boston's own No. 1 in 2018.
Bulls' indecision has proven costly. Doubt they'd get that much from any other team. Wade is going to bolt, they're going to dump Rondo, and Butler will be left with a bunch of kids next year.


1.) 05 Mar 2017 20:38:13
Yes Bulls likely could've gotten more for Butler had they dealt him at deadline but if they were unsure and C's offers didn't blow them out of the water I think they made the right choice in waiting instead of rushing into a deal they weren't 100% committed to make.

There aren't too many players of Butler's caliber around let alone available on the trade market. I don't think waiting will hurt their potential return that much. Bulls will potentially be one of the teams with the most cap space this offseason and can offer almost two max contracts so they could potentially bring in some help for Butler and build around him.

2.) 05 Mar 2017 20:55:48
Okay then since my other trade wasn't good, what about this one?
-Celtics get Butler, Canaan, Bulls 2017 1st
-Bulls get Bradley, D. Jackson, Nets 2017 1st, and Clippers 2019 1st and 2017 2nd.



16 Jul 2016 21:14:04
Boston trades James Young to Indiana for Joseph Young.
Boston trades Joseph Young to Utah for Shelvin Mack
Boston trades Shelvin Mack to Clippers for Austin Rivers
Boston trades Austin Rivers to Charlotte for Marco Belinelli
Boston trades Marco Belinelli to Milwaukee for Michael-Carter Williams
Boston trades Michael Carter-Williams to Houston for Eric Gordon
Boston trades Eric Gordon to Denver for Emmanuel Mudiay
Boston trades Emmanuel Mudiay to Philadelphia for Nerlens Noel
I see no flaws in this
Boston trades Nerlens Noel and Avery Bradley to Oklahoma City for Michael Westbrook.


1.) 17 Jul 2016 00:19:40
Pacers say no. No way Nuggets do that anyway.

2.) 17 Jul 2016 01:41:24
wasn't Michael Westbrook a hell of a back for the Eagles?

3.) 17 Jul 2016 04:46:12
@ jvoug: redskins 4 5 years, Bengals 4 1. And if I'm okc, I'd trade him for those two. Couple that with trading Russell Westbrook for something decent you got a good team.
Of course I have to add as a disclaimer that I'm the one who wanted to trade back in the draft for Denzel Washington.

4.) 17 Jul 2016 04:50:54
Brian Westbrook. Eagles. Good player.

5.) 17 Jul 2016 05:18:52
Yup Brian Westbrook. Was great from 2006-2008. One of the best receiving backs and rarely fumbled.

6.) 17 Jul 2016 12:59:02

I'll take Greg "the hammer" Valentine if he can hit a three.

7.) 18 Jul 2016 04:00:02
@jvoug: if I'm looking to the WWF ( old school) for a guy who can hit from deep, the list starts and ends with Jimmy "superfly" Snuka.



05 Jul 2016 13:54:36
Without Durant, OKC has to decide what to do with Westbrook.

1. Keep him and take a chance that he will sign a long-term deal and be the face of the franchise during a re-build. Highly unlikely.
2. Deal him sometime before the start of the season, even if he says he will not sign a long-term deal with the new team. This will limit what the Thunder could get in return.
3. Deal him after Westbrook agrees to sign a long-term contract with the new team. This would bring maximum value.
4. Wait until the trading deadline and deal him to a playoff contender looking for a 2- or 3-month rental. This would bring very little in return because Westbrook dominates the ball and the new team would have to change its style of play on the fly.




28 May 2016 13:49:42
Anyone proposing deals involving the Celtics needs to keep a few things in mind:
1. The Sixers MIGHT get the No. 3 pick for Okafor, but not much more. Certainly not No. 3 plus any rotation player. Maybe you could add James Young, or a couple of second-rounders. Or at best No. 3, plus flop 16 and 24.
2. The Celtics do not want Carmelo Anthony, or anyone like him who stops an offense cold with iso basketball.
3. Boston is not interested in any more draft choices. The Celts have too many right now.
4. They are also not interested in lazy players like Dwight Howard.
5. No not expect the Celtics to rip up their team to help someone else. That is not the way Danny Ainge thinks. So you might get both Bradley and Crowder in a trade, but the price would be steep -- like a top 10 player in the league, plus a rotation player.


1.) 28 May 2016 14:28:53
Out of curiosity. You keep going no no no to Melo. He plays iso ball. But oh we'll definitely may trade for okafor. You do realize okafor played even more iso ball than Melo? Right? Statistically. Okafor broke records for the amount of iso ball he played.

But again. You don't want Melo because he plays it. Just not as much?

2.) 28 May 2016 16:34:54
This was not me saying you should want melo. Knicks are absolutely fine and content keeping him. The point is, if you are going to trash a player for playing iso ball, then immediately go we want this player who broke records for playing iso ball. just sounds foolish.




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10 Jun 2017 22:43:36
Be wary of injured players and players who put up decent numbers for bad teams.




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10 Jun 2017 22:42:09
Save some ammo. NY Daily News says that PJax is just about ready to give Anthony away to any team that will agree to pay his salary.




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10 Jun 2017 11:57:44
billj -- Wouldn't do it, but if the Celtics do go through with it, I like the idea of flipping the 10 for Vucevic. Vucevic could be an impact player in the right spot.
And if the Kings get Fultz, imagine a Fultz-Hield backcourt in about 3 years.




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10 Jun 2017 11:51:46
I look at it this way: Gordon really doesn't check too many boxes for Boston.
Celtics need rebounding, and Gordon is ok but not great.
Celtics love 3-point shooting, and Gordon is no better than Smart (who is awful) .
Gordon definitely has more upside than Smart, but Smart is a much better defender right now.
Forced to choose between them, then Gordon. But two No. 1s throw the deal out of whack.




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10 Jun 2017 10:19:47
Even coming off an injury, Winslow is an overpay for Anthony. But Miami has a nightlife that would definitely appeal to Anthony, so a deal is possible. Maybe McRoberts and Okaro White for CA.





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