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06 Jun 2017 18:02:51
NY sends Anthony to Kings for Georgios Papagiannis.

Knicks improve rebounding, defense, free throw shooting.

Kings beef up their bench.


1.) 06 Jun 2017 19:57:58
Dude you really need to get a life. You are giving us Celtic fans a bad name.

2.) 06 Jun 2017 21:41:22
obnoxious in that he nonstop fills up all posts regarding melo as too much for him and celtics, not enough. again. we get it. melo needs to be packaged with 4 1sts in order to get an expiring, and the 12th man on the celtics team is worth a high lottery pick. we will all note that for all posts. just give it a rest.



28 May 2017 11:51:15
Thomas for Cousins.


1.) 28 May 2017 12:42:36
Interesting. This would give the Pels the ability to save significant cap space this summer, let Holiday walk and put a shooter with Davis and IT.

C's get a big who would be more likely to re-sign in Boston than NO. He's exactly what they need, and if they keep number 1 and take Fultz, they still have a point guard for the future, and additional cap space to make another significant move.

2.) 28 May 2017 13:17:23
I have a feeling Boston didn't want Cousins (due to character issues) since if they did they could've easily outbid the final offer Kings traded him for. That being said from a bball standpoint he'd be a very good fit for them.

Pelicans getting IT isn't awful and Holiday could potentially play sg if they still chose to resign him (they likely wouldn't be able to land a better FA with their limited cap space) . It would make it a more traditional lineup but I think the thought of a Cousins and Davis pairing once they'd had an offseason together is too attractive to break up.

3.) 28 May 2017 14:27:06
Jaw -- If you believe in conspiracy theories, here's one for you. At the trade deadline Thomas tossed shade on Cousins, who as you say has a checkered history. But bear in mind that if the Celtics brought in Cousins, he would have taken at minimum 6-8 shots a game from Thomas. Thomas has his eyes on the next big deal, and needs huge numbers to get it done.
My thinking is that as the No. 1 pick, Fultz has to play. And eventually he has to play the point. That squeezes out Thomas, and right now Thomas's value is at its peak. Celts need to make room for both Fultz and Brown next year, so there have to be moves.

4.) 28 May 2017 15:39:07
I don't think IT is enough to get Cousins from NO. They're better off with Holiday and Cousins. The Pelicans have something nobody else in the league can guard.

5.) 28 May 2017 16:55:53
Celtics fans want quit on there best player like Phil Jackson on Melo. Cousin has not won anywhere. Bradley Crowder Nets 1st 2018 is nice package. Celtics resign Green. Move Brown to SG. draft Jackson

IT/ Smart/ Jackson
Brown/ Rozier/ Thornton
Green/ Jackson/ Nader
Horford/ Yabusele/ Mickey
Cousins/ Olynyk/ Zizic.

6.) 29 May 2017 17:16:09
Its intriguing because it gives Pels more cap to sign a SF. I'd be intrigued to see this in a 3 team trade where Pels shed Moore or Hill contract and get a upper echelon SF . Other than that i think they pass.



01 Mar 2017 14:57:42
Isaiah Thomas for Lillard.
And the Celtics throw in Ainge.


1.) 01 Mar 2017 15:24:57
So Portland trades a guy locked in long term for a guy with one year left, and they don't address their biggest problem (two undersized guards who can't defend)?

Maybe if Boston throws in another solid piece (Bradley, crowder, brown) .

2.) 01 Mar 2017 17:32:21
I'd argue Lillard is better than Thomas, he is also younger and signed longer term. Either way not sure how this makes either team much better. A 1 for 1 swap of two offensive pgs doesn't really make sense especially for Portland since Lillard is more valuable.

3.) 01 Mar 2017 20:36:48
Thomas, Bradley and Rozier for Lillard and McCollum.

4.) 01 Mar 2017 21:45:38
Lol, so Portland now sends out two guards locked in long term, for two on expiring deals and a minimally valuable bench player. That's worse than the original deal. Throw in the 2017 nets pick and I might do it. Even then I probably wouldn't, because Thomas and Bradley probably both walk after next year.

5.) 02 Mar 2017 14:27:24
OK, how about Thomas, Smart, Brown, Bradley, the No. 1 this year and the No. 1 next year for Al-Farouq Aminu?
That fair?

6.) 02 Mar 2017 17:49:38
How about crowder, brown, and the 2017 nets pick for Lillard. You can then flip Thomas for whatever you want.

My point is valid though. Portland is NOT a destination. Trading long term contracts for expiring deals leads Portland into the Nets void of hell. Except Portland would still have all of their crappy contracts (crabbe, Turner, Leonard), so they wouldn't even have cap space. They would be screwed for the next 4-5 years.



10 Feb 2017 14:08:56
Lakers' Nick Young to Celtics for James Young.
Before you go nuts, consider that the Lakers absolutely have to tank and finish with a top-3 draft pick or they lose it to Philly. If they acquire and play James Young serious minutes, that will just about guarantee finishing with one of the three worst records, and after that it's up to the Ping Pong balls.
Second, the deal keeps Nick Young and D'Angelo Russell (huge feud) away from each other -- and that also helps LA.

Boston, meanwhile, dumps a player who is not going to make the team next year anyway and gives the Celtics an opportunity to move Avery Bradley for much-needed big.


1.) 10 Feb 2017 16:14:46
Sorry Supercollider, there's no way DA would do that.
I do believe Avery will be part of a deal for a big and him still out is just a precaution so he doesn't get hurt in the next 2 weeks.

But Nick Young? Too much drama with that dude, Izzy would be trying to walk into the shower after the games. I'm sure you remember Madonna's episodes.
Also, I'd be afraid he'd pick up his player option next year.

James Young will be waived next year though, his slot will probably go to one of the players stashed overseas not included in a trade here soon.

2.) 10 Feb 2017 16:17:36
If the price is right and they can't make a deal for Butler or Paul George, Carmelo Anthony could be in green. I can't believe I just said that!

3.) 10 Feb 2017 17:47:43
What do you mean if the price is right?
Anthony is like a sidewalk sofa with a free sign on it. If Boston took him, Phil Jackson would owe Ainge a favor a day for the rest of their lives.

4.) 10 Feb 2017 18:10:51
Wow billj. was that an Iggy Izzalia reference? As in the girl that he broke up with like 8 months ago? Go on.

5.) 10 Feb 2017 18:50:36
Sorry there hamburger, I don't keep up with who they are sleeping with like you seem to be. My point was, he's drama.

Supercollider, if he had free sign on him he'd be with the Cav's right now, don't you think? Cleveland doesn't want him because Gilbert doesn't want to lose 50 million plus after he balances his check book this year. If Boston took him for nearly nothing Phil would make the deal NOW. So my "If the price is right" is exactly what I said if the price is right on Melo Boston will take him if he can't get Butler or George. And I just don't want Nick Young on the C's.



05 Jan 2017 21:36:58
FYI -- Prosportsdaily. com saying that the Bulls have made Jimmy Butler available for trade.


1.) 05 Jan 2017 22:08:58
Ok, so propose a trade.

2.) 05 Jan 2017 22:12:12
Jae Crowder, Jaylon Brown, Brooklyn pick
draft Markelle Fultz.

3.) 05 Jan 2017 22:31:05
Jae Crowder, Jaylen Brown and 1st Nets pick
Draft Markelle Fultz.

4.) 05 Jan 2017 23:21:22
They probably need to blow it up and start over. Keep portis. Keep wade (because he's the local guy, unless he asks to be moved due to the rebuild) . Move everything else for youth.




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21 Nov 2017 14:05:35
Interesting that the Knicks are much better without Anthony and the Thunder are much worse with him.


1.) 21 Nov 2017 15:56:21
I'm not a fan of Melo, but I'm not sure he's the main reason for either.

2.) 22 Nov 2017 19:45:55
I do think that he is the main reason the Knicks are better not solely on his play but just his presence and all the drama of the trade rumors being gone definitely are the reason they are doing better.



28 Aug 2017 15:53:23
It's possible that Thomas's hip is worse than Boston's doctors indicated. If that's the case, then Ainge could offer to swap first-rounders in 2018 if Boston's is better. If it's not better, then a second-rounder to Cleveland to allow the Cavs to save some face. Wouldn't go any further than that.


1.) 28 Aug 2017 16:28:43
I think it all depends on how much worse. If he's not going to be the same player when he comes back then the Cavs are going to need a fairly significant bump in the return. If
It's just a matter of waiting an extra month on him, I think 2 2nds or a Boston first would be enough. Obviously, Tatum or Brown is a bit ridiculous, but you have to see what kind of leverage you have. I think Boston caves on one of their own firsts. They have a ton to lose if this doesn't go through.



28 Jun 2017 12:16:59
With Jackson and the triangle offense out of business in New York, that means Hornacek is free to institute the wide-open offense he likes. That means more shots and even less defense for Anthony -- he will never agree to a trade. NY will give up 115+ PPG.


1.) 28 Jun 2017 19:28:57
Its about time they got rid of him. I don't think Anthony ever really wanted to leave NY and he was smart enough to realize his contract was restrictive as far trades which is why he wanted to be bought out (also to stick it to the Knicks and especially Phil) . With Phil gone I don't think he gets bought out or traded. Loss for teams like Cavs that could've potentially added him after he got bought out.

2.) 28 Jun 2017 23:08:22
But wait, you said yesterday he was bought out. i'm confused. Did the new york post give you a different troll story for today? Go on.

3.) 29 Jun 2017 10:34:38
Yesterday they had a different president of basketball operations. There was obviously a difference of opinion between the handling of Melo (and Porzingis) which led to his dismissal.



22 Jun 2017 16:59:03
Porzingis is gone.
How can the Knicks bring him back now?


1.) 22 Jun 2017 17:46:23
Easy. He has 0 other options. Unless he is willing to retire, what leverage does he have?

2.) 23 Jun 2017 04:40:48
Get rid of Phil Jackson. He is who KP, Melo and probably prospective FA aren't happy with. Even the coaching staff probably don't like him since he is forcing the triangle offense down their throats. He doesn't have an MJ or Kobe on this team and they need to run an offense that fits their team and players not try and force square pegs in round holes cause "I have 11 rings". Jackson and his ego has gotten out of hand and his statements are literally hurting the team now and discouraging FA from coming.

Trading Porzingis is the wrong move. You don't trade guys as good as him as young as him when you are a bad team. He is signed long term and soonest he could leave is in 3 years after accepting the qualifying offer in RFA (where he'd be giving up 10+ mill) and becoming an UFA for a year. He likely signs on for 4 years in RFA to get his money so that is 6 years to build around Porzingis. Knicks have some cap space so if FA actually wanted to play for you (Jackson discourages this) they could likely put together a decent team.



05 Mar 2017 20:02:07
Bulls and Celtics
Bulls had their shot at offloading Butler for a significant haul, but blew it. Trading him to Boston now would give the Celtics one less year with him, and that drops his value considerably.
Celtics balked at Bulls' ridiculous asking price (No. 1 this year plus three from the group of Bradley, Smart, Crowder and Brown), so the most Ainge would probably give this summer is two pieces.
Given Brown's play of late, my guess is he's untouchable. That means Chicago's best haul would be the No. 1 and either Bradley, Crowder or Smart. Plus maybe Boston's own No. 1 in 2018.
Bulls' indecision has proven costly. Doubt they'd get that much from any other team. Wade is going to bolt, they're going to dump Rondo, and Butler will be left with a bunch of kids next year.


1.) 05 Mar 2017 20:38:13
Yes Bulls likely could've gotten more for Butler had they dealt him at deadline but if they were unsure and C's offers didn't blow them out of the water I think they made the right choice in waiting instead of rushing into a deal they weren't 100% committed to make.

There aren't too many players of Butler's caliber around let alone available on the trade market. I don't think waiting will hurt their potential return that much. Bulls will potentially be one of the teams with the most cap space this offseason and can offer almost two max contracts so they could potentially bring in some help for Butler and build around him.

2.) 05 Mar 2017 20:55:48
Okay then since my other trade wasn't good, what about this one?
-Celtics get Butler, Canaan, Bulls 2017 1st
-Bulls get Bradley, D. Jackson, Nets 2017 1st, and Clippers 2019 1st and 2017 2nd.




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15 Dec 2017 10:21:43
So it's basically the Brooklyn pick for George.
Right now that pick is No. 10.




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13 Dec 2017 18:02:37
Can't see the Bulls having any use for Shumpert or Zizic.




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12 Dec 2017 17:22:13
It would be worth it just to see Bron-Bron deal with Howard.




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12 Dec 2017 17:20:43
Toss in two Excedrin tablets and you have a deal.




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02 Dec 2017 10:32:50
As BMiller says above, Okafor just has the wrong skill set for today's NBA. Teams want agile stretch-the-floor bigs who can rebound and defend (both at the rim and on the perimeter) . Everyone is trying to figure out how to defend pick-and-rolls, and that require switching with quick bigs. Okafor is unique in that all he does really well is score in a low-post type of offense that the league abandoned 7 or 8 years ago. Yes, he could probably be a 20/ 9 guy with enough minutes, but he'd give up more than that on the other end.





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