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13 Mar 2017 21:35:56
Grizzlies decide to tear it down this offseason.
MEM:
Memphis receives: Mem 19 1st, Bkn 17 & 18 1st, J. Brown, T. Zeller, Q. Pondexter, Ajinca, Asik
Memphis trades: M. Gasol, B. Wright, J. Ennis, Mem 21 1st (Top 8 protected), Bkn 19 2nd, Bos 19 2nd
BOS:
Boston receives: M. Gasol, J. Ennis, Mem 21 1st (Top 8 protected), NO 19 1st (Protected), Bos 19 2nd, Bkn 19 2nd
Bos trades: Mem 19 1st, Bkn 17 & 18 1st, J. Brown, T. Zeller
NO:
New Orleans receives: B. Wright
New Orleans trades: Asik, Ajinca, Q. Pondexter, NO 19 1st (Protected)
For the Grizzlies to tear it down, it will take a very appealing first offer. Ball/Fultz along with Brown and Bkn 18 is quite a haul. I apologize if the trade is a little bias but without a solid offer the grizz will stick to their old ways. This will be a hard sell to the grit n grind grizz fans, but the team is struggling and a 4-5 game out in round 1 of the playoffs will have people seeking change. If nothing happens, the grizz will struggle to resign their own free agents and nothing more. Everyone being a year older doesn't exactly inspire confidence in the grizz making it further than round 1 next year as well.
Boston gets their All Star center along with a SF to replace Brown. Ennis played very well in NO last year and for the Grizz at the beginning of this year. He started to struggle a little after coming back from his injury but I personally think Coach Fizdale has a decent bit to do with that. Should be a solid bench player for Boston. Boston will also have roughly 20 million to spend this summer if they want to still go after Gordon without losing any key pieces of their current team. If this trade doesn't happen, in 2019 the grizz will likely be a fringe playoff team sneaking in as a 7/8 seed. Thus, the Memphis pick though good is nothing special. The 2021 1st would very likely be quite better and would hit right after Gasol and Horford's contracts end. Ultimately Boston would still have a decent number of draft picks since they would have all of their own picks after 2017 as well as a NO 19, LAC 19, and Mem 21 1st as well as a slew of 2nds.
New Orleans does this to clear cap space. This would allow them to have some cash for free agency this summer (an extra 13m) and have room to extend Cousins if they wish next summer (an extra 16.8m) relative to if they don't do a trade. Asik's contract of 10.6-12m for the next three years (assuming he doesn't exercise the player option in the final year) is dead weight since he isn't even the backup center right now. Ajinca is but Wright would be able to replace him on a shorter contract that ends when Cousins would get his raise. Pondexter's 3m isn't a big deal.
MEM:
Mem receives: Sac/Phi Swap 2017 1st, LAL 18 1st (Top 8 protected), Sac 2019 1st, Bayless, any other salary PHI wishes to dump
Mem trades: Mike Conley, Troy Daniels
PHI:
Phi receives: Mike Conley, Troy Daniels
Phi trades: Sac/Phi Swap 2017 1st, LAL 18 1st (Top 8 protected), Sac 2019 1st, Bayless, any other salary PHI wishes to dump
Memphis would be trying to load up on top draft picks over the next couple years. Memphis could take back any other salary Phi wants to dump along with Bayless.
Philadelphia would get a guy that should easily be an All Star in the East. He also is a very level-headed veteran that has been a key player in creating the third longest active playoff streak. The biggest advantage though is that Mike Conley plays exceptionally well off the ball (maybe better than with it), which would allow Simmons to be the main ball handler but have a safety net and playmaker in Conley. Conley then would guard the PG on defense. Philly would also get one of the best pure shooters in Troy Daniels. His defense leaves something to be desired, but he can provide scoring for the bench or be used simply to space the floor when needed. Short of a trade, Philadelphia won't be able to get much talent in and Conley fits their needs well. The only down side is that Conley's final year of his contract is the year Philly will start extending other players. They may have to send a 2nd along with Conley to a struggling team (probably Brooklyn still) to clear his last cap hit from the books unless the cap rises a little bit more.
1.) 13 Mar 2017 23:07:37
It's not worth grizzlies trying to rebuild since they won't get good value for Gasol or Conley. They likely wouldn't even get half of those offers for Gasol and Conley.
2.) 14 Mar 2017 00:41:21
Sixers say no for obvious reasons. 3 more then likely top 5 picks for Conely? he's a very good player, but that is way overpaying. And sixers don't need to dump salary. that's borderline comical.
3.) 14 Mar 2017 04:26:02
The lakers pick would be protected so they can't have three top 5 picks. The protection could be extended beyond the top 8 if necessary but it isn't a loaded draft next year so top 8 should cover most of the truly promising players. As for extra salary I didn't see anyone else they would want to add but was just throwing it out there. Money doesn't need to match.
The grizz won't rebuild anytime soon since they will ride Conley and Gasol till their end, but with the multiverse theory there is one universe out there in which they would. Just shooting in the dark to see how things fare for that universe.
4.) 14 Mar 2017 14:28:29
There are not enough languages in the world for the Celtics to say no enough on this proposal.
5.) 14 Mar 2017 16:26:24
Supercollider you are correct. This is very bad for the Celtics.
6.) 21 Mar 2017 12:25:29
Yeah I'm sorry. Love gasol. Especially 3 years ago when he was at his prime. No chance in holy hell you get the number 1 overall, next years likely top 3 pick, another 1st and brown for him. I mean. Are you kidding? That's not even touching on the nonsense of Conley.
You aren't getting 6 1sts, with 5 of them super high and top prospects for two aging players on very high contracts. Conley is not a good contract. Just isn't. And gasol is on the wrong side of his peak.
23 Sep 2017 06:43:36
In that scenario Memphis would probably just cut out Min or try and find a better return for Love.
23 Jun 2017 22:04:40
You forgot about Wayne Seldon. He was starting for us at the end of the Spurs series so we will very likely keep him around to st least see what he can offer. I think Martin would be the odd man out and could be moved for a protected 2nd round pick (or maybe could be one of our two two-way d league contracts) .
23 Jun 2017 21:59:07
If Boston wouldn't offer Bkn 18 or #3 for Butler, they certainly won't offer it for a 1 year PG13 rental. PG would have to sign an extension for Indiana to have a shot at any of Boston's top assets. I doubt that will happen with him wanting to go to LA after next year.
08 Jun 2017 04:03:15
Maybe a little light for the 76ers but I like the concept.
08 Feb 2017 17:16:49
Memphis could add a handful of 2nds instead of the first, but I doubt it would put its next available first round pick in since half the team will be retired by then. 40 yr old Vince would be the 6th man as well haha.
23 Sep 2017 06:57:32
I think Team Southwest would be the best.
14 Mar 2017 04:26:02
The lakers pick would be protected so they can't have three top 5 picks. The protection could be extended beyond the top 8 if necessary but it isn't a loaded draft next year so top 8 should cover most of the truly promising players. As for extra salary I didn't see anyone else they would want to add but was just throwing it out there. Money doesn't need to match.
The grizz won't rebuild anytime soon since they will ride Conley and Gasol till their end, but with the multiverse theory there is one universe out there in which they would. Just shooting in the dark to see how things fare for that universe.
15 Dec 2016 17:57:50
Decent value for Memphis though Davis has looked good lately, but I don't know if they want any more injured guys at the moment. Parsons is already a hard enough pull to swallow.