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17 Mar 2016 16:48:13
he was that awful in college. just look at advanced stats. his team is better offensively (game flows instead of blackhole) and defensively (actually cover people and put effort in) .
does okafor have potential, absolutely. Is he a franchise cornerstone? probably not. 25/ 10 doesn't equate to championship if you neglect defense. don't agree? David lee was over 20 and almost 12 boards a game, with pathetic defense, leading to a pitiful knicks team. Stop making it more than it is. Almost all agree he has a serious flaw in his game. doesn't make him worthless, but surely not worth giving up that much.
I would far prefer having smart and bender or Poeltl instead of jsut having okafor. I believe both bigs are comparable if not potentially better becasue of all around game and still keep the high value propsect pg. that's what i was saying.
17 Mar 2016 14:59:15
1. you don't get a meniscus tear from banging knees. He missed 4 games with a shin contussion because of the banging into a teammate. The sore right knee issue has been bothering him since the preseason, then missing a couple games in december from it. aka, it was season long
2. The center is your defensive anchor. To say just get better guards to mask his deficiencies is fine. But you don't pay premium priced for damaged/ flawed goods.
3. To be fair, the sixers are a good team to realize even with top picks, you don't necessarily get top centers. You currently have one with zero offense, one with zero defense, and one with zero games played among the 3 top 6 picks on the team.
4. Having those picks doesn't mean anything. The celtics couldn't move up like 6 spots last year with 4 1sts. what do you think the sixers can get other than MANY rotational and d-leaguers?
5. If the option is to just sign someone, or give away premium assets, why in the world would they go to Okafor? The sixers have him now, and they will have him for the future. No one is going to pay what the sixers realistically would want for him. He just seems too much like Monroe and Vucevic. All fluff, no wins.
6. Just this one on my computer. Lemme guess philly. enter a discussion and try and insult?
17 Mar 2016 13:29:04
lol.88 million to fill out half the team instead of 98, my bad. then an additionaly 20-35 million for the rest of the roster.
So they go from 63 million this year, to about doubled next year.
With the tax structure in place, you are looking at WELL over 150 million in salary.
Good math ben, good math.
16 Mar 2016 23:15:16
Yeah, all around agreement. The unassisted stat is AWFUL. For all those that talk about how Melo is a black hole, where the balls goes in and doesn't come out. that's Okafor. That stat wasnt supposed to promote how good he is, it more shows how poorly the team runs when he is in. It is just a dump down low and no flow to the game.
As for the scoring, i fail to see the argument there. Is ricky rubio a career back up because he scores 10 a game? Hell, rondo doesn't even score more than 11. The celtics are a team play team. Not an individual scorer. They spread the ball around, everyone contributes. So to say the celtics want a player like okafor, where you just dump it down low and either he scores or its over. not a strong argument. The celtics send feelers to everyone. that's the point. They just kick every can to see what the interest is and if they can get a good deal.
The sixers, as you said, have the worst guards potentially ever. So they are absolutely in no position of strength to bargain to get a high prospect pg AND a top 5 pick for the position they have a logjam in, and the player who puts up stat stuffer numbers but when you look just slightly beyond the surface, you realize, he isn't doing good for the team. He would ruin the chemistry the celtics have. And seeing as they are 3rd in the East, don't think they are in a rush to destroy that.
16 Mar 2016 22:59:30
Conclusion, you are so far over the cap its incredible.
Horford - 25 mill
Noah - 10 mill
Parsons - 20 mill
Lin - 6 mill
Shumpert - 10 mill
Irving - 17 mill
That alone has you right at 98 million, well over any cap and you still have watson at 5 mill, olidapo at 6.5 mill, gordon at 4.3 mill, mario at 4 mill.
unless the small market magix decide they want a pay roll exceeding 120 million and RIDICULOUS taxes. it just makes no sense.
17 Mar 2016 13:55:51
The sign and trade is so the knicks don't have a log jam at center, don't have 40 million invested in center. and the rockets do it to get a solid center and a reasonable price (given the cap boom) .
I personally would be fine with Howard instead of lopez, but not both. I think howard for about 20 mill, replacing lopez is ultiamtely worth it.
A front line of Melo, Porzingis and Howard would be rather dangerous.
Then if you can replace the guards with something like batum and beverly, incredible.
17 Mar 2016 13:53:06
hahah, well done NBA. echoing theking. durant has now stated he loves his hometown of DC, he loves NY because of a unicorn, he loves boston because they are a team and he loves okc because he has always loved it and wants to finish his career there.
at this point, people need to stop discussing where he is going, or acting like he is giving hints. he has legitimately not thought about it at all. He will figure it out in the offseason. This is a very nice dream scenerio, but there is zero indication its even possible.