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13 Nov 2018 14:10:50
Orlando is looking like a borderline playoff team and could use an upgrade at PG.

Orlando gets Teague and Rose.

They get the upgrade they need in Teague and a bench scorer Rose.

Minnesota gets Augustin, Ross, and a Cleveland's 2nd round pick (New York owns it, but Orlando can swap with it) .

Minnesota gets an expiring and saves almost $12 million for next year if Teague were to opt in.

carl006

1.) 17 Nov 2018 21:02:12
I like the idea because I think Tyus is a capable starter, but with the way rose has been playing I don’t think it’s enough in return.


 

 

05 Nov 2018 14:45:02
Minnesota-Houston-Sacramento three team deal (but, with Sacramento playing well, not sure they want to do this) .

Houston gets Butler
Sacramento gets Dieng and Houston's 2019 and 2021 1st round picks
Minnesota gets Knight, Chriss, Koufas, and Houston's 2023 and 2025 1st round picks.

Houston gets the superstar
Sacramento gets 2 1st round picks for taking on a backup center
Minnesota can waive and stretch Knight, therefor giving them a lot of cap space for next summer (which should please the owner, even if they don't use it) . They can also easily re-sign Jones, and have their own 1st round pick, which should be high.

carl006

1.) 05 Nov 2018 15:18:40
I’m not sure what purpose Sacramento is really serving here or why they get 2 1sts. Minnesota wants talent back and they still get none.


2.) 05 Nov 2018 15:19:44
This will attract the win-now Thibs crowd!


 

 

31 Oct 2018 14:17:34
Three team deal.

Philadelphia gets Jimmy Butler and Troy Daniels
Phoenix gets Markelle Fultz
Minnesota gets Robert Covington and Miami's 2021 1st round pick from Philadelphia, and Miles Bridges and Milwaukee's 2019 1st from Phoenix.

carl006

1.) 31 Oct 2018 14:56:37
Edit. Should be Mikal Bridges, not Miles.


2.) 31 Oct 2018 16:28:58
4 1st round picks is so much better for the wolves. Having to go back into rebuild around Towns and Wiggins? That would outweigh my desire to not assist Hou with winning. Covington and Wiggins together would take a while to figure out, neither are good small ball PF's or SG's. The other Bridges would be a lot better!


3.) 31 Oct 2018 16:49:02
Why don't you think Covington can play some PF?

And Wiggins is a natural SG. I don't know why he is playing SF instead of Butler right now.


4.) 31 Oct 2018 17:05:09
Wiggns is 6'8" 205-210. It's just a size matchup for offensive purposes. Wiggins is nearly the size of Jeff Green, just doesn't play defense. Green plays small ball center for the wiz. Covington might be able to matchup defensively on a PF, but on offense I'd prefer Wiggins small or regular ball.


5.) 31 Oct 2018 17:14:39
Covington can play 2 through 4 depending on tjenlinenup around him. He can guard anyone 1 through 3 well, most 4/ and some 5s. His performance in the playoffs has him underrated as a shooter. He isn’t Steph Curry, but he is a solid shooter that you can’t leave open. He isn’t really a 2nd ball handler, but with KAT, Wiggins, Teague, and Rose in the rotation, he doesn’t need to be. They can all get their own shot and help others get shots to different degrees.

Minnesota gets a solid return. The problem I see is that I don’t think Philly is willing to deal Fultz for whatever reason.


6.) 31 Oct 2018 17:36:57
I would be shocked that Fultz was a sticking point. He is not good and way overpaid. His value is in a promise some day he'll show what some think he can do, yet has done none of it so far or shown. (bruno caboclo, thanasis antetokounmpo, anthony Bennet, greg oden, many, many more) . He's doing good for where he was at last season but he is nowhere near ready for a guy like thibs.


 

 

25 Oct 2018 18:10:09
Minnesota-Miami-Phoenix trade

Miami get Jimmy Butler
Phoenix gets Jeff Teague
Minnesota gets Josh Richardson, Tyler Johnson and a future 1st from Miami, then Ellie Okobie and a future 2nd from Phoenix.

Miami gets the star player they want.
Phoenix gets the PG they need.
Minnesota gets a couple of young players, a backup to replace Rose who expires in 2 years, gets a couple of draft picks, and still saves enough money to re-sign Jones next summer without going into the luxury tax.

carl006

1.) 25 Oct 2018 19:24:39
Pheonix doesn’t have cap space and they would need like 15 million in cap space to do this.


2.) 25 Oct 2018 19:44:26
Chandler to Minny.


 

 

08 Oct 2018 14:56:31
New Butler trade idea.

Minnesota gets Richardson, Tyler Johnson, and Koufos.
Miami gets Butler
Sacramento gets Dieng, Miami's 2019 1st, and Miami's 2019 2nd (which Minnesota owns).

carl006

1.) 08 Oct 2018 15:00:21
It just doesn’t feel like enough for Butler.


2.) 08 Oct 2018 16:08:31
More then enough especially because heat have no cap to sign him.


3.) 08 Oct 2018 16:30:16
LL, The fact that the Heat can’t sign him ups his value in a trade for the Heat. I’m not sure what you’re inferring. Koufos has no value, Tyler Johnson has almost as much negative value as Dieng and Richardson is solid, but he’s not some kind of elite prospect.


4.) 08 Oct 2018 16:36:38
Personally, I think one of the sticking points is the Heat don't want to take on Dieng, but want Minnesota to take on Waiters along with giving Minnesota Richardson and a 1st. However, Minnesota doesn't want both Dieng and Waiters for 3 more years, so they want Miami to give up another 1st for a 3rd team to take on Dieng.


5.) 08 Oct 2018 18:31:40
HAHAHA, I love ll. that comment is indicative of his overall basketball knowledge.


6.) 09 Oct 2018 01:44:37
You got to look at it this wayy. Wolves are off loading dieing 3 years contract which is bad due to fact it has 3 years. and getting two solid players.


 

 

 

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01 Jul 2018 16:30:41
Now that Minnesota has re-signed Rose, I think they should do the same with Bjelica.

And as much as I would like for them to move Wiggins, I just don't see it happening.

One free agent I would like them to bring in is James Ennis. More of a 3 who can also play small ball 4, would be a nice addition for the Wolves.

Drafting Okogie and KBD, re-signing Rose and Bjelica, and bringing in Ennis would go a long way to improving Minnesota's bench.

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30 Apr 2018 15:20:57
What do you think is a realistic trade for Andrew Wiggins? I know he probably has some value, given his age and potential upside that is still there. But his contract and lack of improvement have hurt him. But he has proven that he can be a lead scorer and sometimes plays good defense.

A few teams that he could be traded to:

Miami, but only as part of a complex three or more team trade
Charlotte, maybe in a swap for Batum, since they have equally bad contracts, but Charlotte would have to offer Minnesota something because of Batum's injury concern.
New York, they are always looking for a star type player, and Wiggins, even with his issues, is close to a star level player.
Brooklyn, would give them a ready made lead scorer and young talent, since they have not had their top pick for 3 years and have missed out on a lot of top level young talent
Orlando, both Wiggins and Orlando might need a fresh start
Sacramento, they could use a go to scorer and Wiggins can be that


What do you think?

carl006

1.) 30 Apr 2018 15:51:37
I think it might be hard for Minnesota to get equal value back for him, but teams that could make some sense imo are Detroit, Miami, New Orleans, Indy, and Portland.

Detroit could offer Griffin or find a 3 way trade for Drummond.
Miami could offer something like Winslow, Richardson and Olynyk.
New Orleans could offer Hill, Mirotic and maybe some combination of picks and younger players.
Indy could offer some cap savings, picks and role players.
Portland could offer McCollum, but would probably need more back than just Wiggins.


2.) 01 May 2018 00:55:40
How about just hold on to him and fire thibedou then trade jimmy for a 3 point shooter and a pick cause jimmy is not staying in Minnesota and if he does that team is a first round exit every time but if you trade Wiggins what incentive does kat have to stay. butler for Mccollum something along that.


 

 

17 May 2017 14:37:00
If Minnesota wanted to trade Wiggins, how high of a pick to you think they could get in this years draft?

carl006

1.) 17 May 2017 14:46:44
1st overall plus more.


2.) 17 May 2017 17:23:54
Um. no rkenne. just no.

Wiggins is starting to look like far less than what people made him out to be. The problem is, while he is a pretty solid scorer, at this point, that appears to be it. He is actually a negative on the defensive end. He doesn't rebound particularly well and he isn't much of a passer.

And he is already completed his third year. I don't know how much more complete of a player he will become. If he was in this draft and you knew this is where he would be after year 3, I see him going 3-7.

Absolutely not worth the 1st overall and more. Just stop.


3.) 17 May 2017 22:56:47
Wiggins hasn't been and doesn't project to be the heir to Lebron like some projected him to be coming out of Kansas and has been considerably worse on the defensive end than many thought but dude is still only 22 and one of the top prospects in the league. He has been extremely healthy (playing in all but one game in his first 3 years) and has scored over 20 ppg his past two seasons. He also made a big jump this past season improving his 3pt % from 30% to a respectable 35.6%. Issue is he doesn't do much else besides scoring with only 4 double doubles in his entire career.

I see no reason why Twolves would want to trade Wiggins for a pick in this years draft but for point of reference Jackson has been heavily compared to him and many regard him as 2nd or 3rd best prospect in the draft. You have to factor in the unknown factor (Jackson could be better than expected or much worse than expected) and the contract situation as well as the adjustment period and age in the value. If Wiggins was in this draft I think he'd be minimally #4 pick and maybe as high as #2 behind Fultz due to the increasing importance of point guards and shooters in today's game.

However, for it to make sense for Twolves to trade him they'd want #1 plus more since Twolves already have a promising team and with KAT they don't need Wiggins to be the next Lebron for them to be successful. There is always the risk that whomever they trade him for is not as good (Wiggins has been pretty darn good thus far) or worst a complete bust so they'd have to be compensated for that.

I'm not sure Celtics would be willing to do that (although maybe they would since Wiggins could help them to win right now and still keep the future bright while Fultz it remains to be seen if he can have an immediate impact) .


 

 

13 Apr 2017 15:45:04
Timberwolves off season.

Pek takes a medical retirement so his salary doesn't count for next year.
Waive Jordan Hill and his non guaranteed contract for next year.
Let Rush, Muhammad, Payne, and Casspi leave via free agency.

Trade Andrew Wiggins, Cole Aldrich, and no 6 (or 7) pick to Chicago for Jimmy Butler and 15 (or 16) pick.

Sign Serge Ibaka to a max deal and Andre Roberson to a deal.

Rubio/ Jones
LaVine/ Dunn
Butler/ Roberson
Ibaka/ Bjelica
Towns/ Deing.

carl006

1.) 13 Apr 2017 16:46:12
The rest of the core fits wiggins time line. His ceiling is probably higher than Butler's. I'm not sure if they trade Wiggins for Butler straight up let alone adding the pick.


2.) 14 Apr 2017 01:14:13
Trading Wiggins for Butler could make some sense but I wouldn't give up Twolves pick too (I don't think Bulls pick justifies it since big drop-off in talent after 11 imo) . I'd swap LaVine in for Wiggins and potentially do this trade. I believe Bulls wanted LaVine and pick that end up as Dunn for Butler last summer so maybe it could work. Losing LaVine's shooting will hurt a lot tho especially with Rubio and Dunn both poor 3pt shooters although Wiggins improved to a respectable 36% this season. I could see Thibs however pushing hard to get his man Butler back.

If I'm Twolves I'd probably just stick with what they have especially when Issac or worst case Markkanen will be available with their lotto pick. Issac would be a scary pf on the team with his versatility and ability to stretch the floor and play defense.


 

 

18 Jan 2017 03:04:06
I don't want Minnesota to trade Rubio, but Thibs seems hell bent on doing so. Sacramento seems the likely destination.

So, Sacramento gets Ricky Rubio and Shabazz Muhammad.

Minnesota gets Darren Collison, Anthony Tolliver, Malachi Richardson, and a future 1st round pick.

carl006

1.) 18 Jan 2017 12:13:20
I think Sacramento would only offer R Gay and Collison.


2.) 18 Jan 2017 16:03:17
They could offer McLemore too


3.) 18 Jan 2017 16:04:53
I'd like to see this
Twolves get Afflalo, Collison, and McLemore
Kings get Rubio and Muhammad


 

 

 

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20 Nov 2018 03:00:26
Um, no.

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18 Nov 2018 05:18:34
And Orlando does this why?

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16 Nov 2018 16:06:28
Going to take more than a pick to get back a better player on a decent long term contract.

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14 Nov 2018 15:54:46
KG and Cassell in Minnesota.

Cassell
Wiggins
Covington
KG
Towns.

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14 Nov 2018 01:44:30
Houston fan?

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