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11 Sep 2017 20:30:56
Spurs get: Jabari Parker and Greg Monroe

Bucks get: LaMarcus Aldridge

dannywhitesox1

1.) 13 Sep 2017 14:24:12
I think a good trade for both teams.


 

 

24 Aug 2017 17:25:36
Celtics: Myles Turner

Pacers: Jayson Tatum

dannywhitesox1

1.) 24 Aug 2017 17:43:35
I think it's possible, if Tatum comes in and plays well, but as of right now it seems to risky for the Pacers. They know what they have in Turner. There is still a chance Tatum is a bust.


2.) 24 Aug 2017 17:48:07
I just don't see it. Both teams are, and should be, in love with their guys.


3.) 24 Aug 2017 19:52:53
The Celtics ARE in love with Tatum. Otherwise he would have been traded to Cleveland for Irving, instead of the Brooklyn pick.
Cleveland was insisting on Tatum in the deal. The only reason the trade was completed, was that the Cavs came off of Tatum.


4.) 25 Aug 2017 18:14:41
The Celtics need a rebounder, so i could see them doing this.

Not sure about Indy. Tatum can become a better player, but it's still a risk.


 

 

14 Aug 2017 16:41:49
Four team trade: Knicks/Cavaliers/76ers/Suns
New York Knicks trade: Kristaps Porzingis, Carmelo Anthony, Frank Ntilinkina, and Joakim Noah

New York Knicks receive: Kyrie Irving, Dario Saric, Robert Covington, Dragan Bender, and Channing Frye

The Knicks are giving up their present and their future all in one deal here. So why would they do this deal? Simple: they are gaining an even brighter future. Irving is a proven star and wants nothing more than to play in New York. The Knicks have been unwilling to include Porzingis in a deal for Irving this offseason, so I remedied that by essentially swapping Anthony out for Saric and Covington, more than fair considering both of their ages and potential, and, more importantly, ridding them of Noah's lengthy and pricey contract. Swapping out Ntilinkina for Bender would be more of a positional swap than anything, as acquiring Irving wouldn't leave much room for Ntilinkina, however, acquiring Bender would provide the Knicks with Porzingis' replacement, one of the most similar type of players as compared to Porzingis in the league. Moreover, this trade would open up over $20 million worth of cap space, and potentially enough for a max contract, for the next offseason. Free agents have never been shy in their desire to play in New York, which would be even more the case with Irving in town and youngsters such as Saric and Bender around.

Irving/Ramon Sessions
Tim Hardaway Jr./Courtney Lee
Covington/Lance Thomas
Saric/Bender
Kyle O'Quinn/Willy Hernangomez



Cleveland Cavaliers trade: Kyrie Irving, Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye, Richard Jefferson, and Kay Felder

Cleveland Cavaliers receive: Eric Bledsoe, Carmelo Anthony, and Richaun Holmes

In terms of talent, this deal would provide the Cavaliers with more than a fair return in exchange for Irving. While this may not be the same case in terms of value (although definitely debatable), the Cavaliers have been really struggling to find a team willing to give up fair value for Irving and most likely will not find fair value for a player of Irving's status. The Cavaliers will be in a very weird spot this upcoming season with the uncertainty of James' future as a Cavalier hanging over their heads. They desire to acquire a veteran player along with a young prospect with high upside for Irving in the event that LeBron James is to bolt again. With this trade, they would not only acquire one veteran, one who is still only 27-years-old and probably just played his best season of basketball as a professional, but two, the other whose contract expires after this season and they could decide to re-sign should James opt to stay in Cleveland. Although Holmes doesn't possess as high of upside as the Cavaliers would hope, he is signed for two more years on a very cheap contract and coming off a breakout season in which he was extremely effective in terms of per 36 minutes statistics while holding down a very efficient field goal percentage and even stretching the floor for his team by hitting some three pointers. Ridding themselves of Frye, Shumpert, Jefferson, and Felder would neutralize the blow the team would face for acquiring the pricey contracts of Bledsoe and Anthony.

Bledsoe/Derrick Rose
Anthony/Kyle Korver
James/J.R. Smith
Kevin Love/Jeff Green
Tristan Thompson/Holmes



Philadelphia 76ers trade: Dario Saric, Robert Covington, Richaun Holmes, Jahlil Okafor, 2018 76ers first-round pick, and 2018 Lakers first-round pick (top 1 protected)/2019 Kings first-round pick (pick that doesn't get traded to the Celtics)

Philadelphia 76ers receive: Kristaps Porzingis, Joakim Noah, and Richard Jefferson

Giving up four young players with solid upside, two potentially high draft picks, and taking on an absolutely terrible contract (along with a much smaller one) would be a hard pill for the 76ers to swallow. There are only a few players in the league worth this type of package and Porzingis is certainly one of them. Can you seriously imagine the 76ers acquiring Porzingis without giving up Joel Embiid, Ben Simmons, and Markelle Fultz? Wow! The potential for the team to succeed in the future would probably be something that has never been heard of in the past. If all these players are to live up to their highest potential, just imagine a team of James Harden, LeBron James, Dirk Nowitzki, and Hakeem Olajuwon all playing together. That would be absolutely absurd! The best part would be that the team, even with Noah's contract on the books, would have just under $30 million to spend on free agents next season, with the chance to finesse enough cap space for a maximum contract if need be. Shooting and defense would probably be the two biggest needs for a team of this caliber, and with players such as Kentavious Caldwell-Pope and Avery Bradley available, the team would have a variety of opportunities to complete their starting line-up for the next 10 years.

Fultz/Jerryd Bayless
J.J. Redick/Nik Stauskas
Simmons/Timothe Luwawu-Cabarrot
Porzingis/Amir Johnson
Embiid/Noah



Phoenix Suns trade: Eric Bledsoe and Dragan Bender

Phoenix Suns receive: Jahlil Okafor, Frank Ntilinkina, Iman Shumpert, 2018 76ers first-round pick, and 2018 Lakers first-round pick (top 1 protected)/2019 Kings first-round pick (pick that doesn't get traded to the Celtics)

The Phoenix Suns are one of the youngest teams in the league, and they are only hoping to get younger as they look to sell off veterans such as Bledsoe, Tyson Chandler, and a few others. They have the minutes and room for risk available to take a chance on a player like Okafor, who still has enough offensive potential in him to be a possible surprise for a team willing to take the risk in acquiring him. More important in this deal, however, would be the two picks the team would be acquiring. Even with the magical upside the 76ers would have on their roster following this trade, they would almost undoubtedly need another year to develop into a true contender, and that's not taking injuries into consideration. Granted, the Eastern Conference is probably as weak as it has ever been and the 76ers can just as easily sneak into the playoffs as a seventh or eighth seed as they can finish as an 11th or 12th seed, but even if this pick were to fall as far back as 15th, it would provide the Suns with an opportunity to draft a player with, at minimum, medial upside. The second pick the Suns would receive in this deal would either be the Lakers' draft pick next year or the Kings' draft pick in two years. They would receive the Lakers pick next year if it fell beyond the fifth slot. Considering the likeliness of their pick falling somewhere between the sixth and 10th slot in next year's draft, or the likeliness of the Kings' draft pick landing somewhere in the top five slot the following year, the return the Suns would be receiving in this trade for Bledsoe would be very worthwhile. As mentioned before, swapping Bender for Ntilinkina would be positional more than anything, as Marquese Chriss plays the same position that Bender plays and outperformed him this previous season. The Suns need themselves a young point guard of the future and the hope would be that Ntilinkina would be that guy for them.

Ntilinkina/Tyler Ulis
Devin Booker/Elijah Millsap
Josh Jackson/T.J. Warren
Chriss/Jared Dudley
Okafor/Tyson Chandler

dannywhitesox1

1.) 14 Aug 2017 17:36:51
Philly says no, way too much to give up just for Zinger.


2.) 14 Aug 2017 17:37:20
Not bad. I think the biggest hang ups would be the amount the 76ers are giving up here and I'm not sure if the Cavs would be willing to go all in this year rather than getting a mix of young talent and established players. Holmes is young, but he is probably a career role player.


3.) 14 Aug 2017 19:16:47
Philly says no. Could go either way if that is too much for Porzingis but I could see it happen, but with adding Noah that is way too much imo. They should be keeping one of Covington or Saric and one of those first should become 2 seconds


4.) 14 Aug 2017 22:44:30
I agree that the 76ers may be giving up too much but what you guys have to understand is that the Knicks aren't at all desperate to trade Porzingis, and even Anthony for that matter taking into account the offers they've received for him, therefore, it would take a king's ransom deal to grab him. 76ers have a lot of assets that they will have to consolidate at some point, and they should that sooner rather than waiting till later and receiving pennies on the dollar.

Porzingis has a truly unique skill set, is a superstar in the making playing in a superstar's league, and is extremely young, making him worth the king's ransom. The fact that they would still have enough money to spend on a top free agent next season in an effort to fill out their line-up would be icing on the cake.


5.) 15 Aug 2017 00:41:57
Danny, I just think you're underestimating how much of a negative asset Noah is.


6.) 15 Aug 2017 03:43:41
No ones arguing that it would take a ransom to get him but Philly is giving up a ransom and then your acting like the Knicks can throw in one of the worst contracts in the NBA on top of it. Like I said I can see the Sixers doing that without Noah included


7.) 15 Aug 2017 15:24:17
I don't see phoenix doing this. Yes they're getting a lot, but it's mainly a lot of nothing. No one wants play of, and the Lakers pick I believe is already owed to Boston for moving up this year to #1. So it would be 2 years before they get the first rounder. And I don't believe they can trade they're own pick since they're already trading one. so basically phoenix trades Bledsoe, and bender for okafor schumperts contract, and the pg from new York.


 

 

25 Jul 2017 05:23:02
Celtics-Cavaliers

Celtics get: Kyrie Irving, Tristan Thompson and 2018 first round pick

Cavaliers get: Isaiah Thomas and Al Horford

Celtics may be giving up too much but Irving and Thompson are younger with better contracts so it might work out well if they don't think they can contend with the Warriors for a championship in the next three years or so.

dannywhitesox1

1.) 25 Jul 2017 06:50:06
Celtics giving up too much? I think they are giving up too little. I think Thompson would be a better fit for the Celtics due to his rebounding, being younger and since they have talented forwards they could use a more conventional center. Even though Horford is the better player the gap in value between Irving and IT is big due to their contract situations and respective ages. This move would still allow Celtics to compete while improving their future.

For the Cavs it makes them older and not sure it makes them any better. I'd like this trade more if they dealt Love for a forward who could defend better and still be a decent shooter.


 

 

30 Jun 2017 06:04:21
The Celtics are in a truly unique situation in terms of possibilities for their offseason starting this Saturday. They have, by far, the best mix of veteran talent, young talent, draft assets, and cap space to finesse into a super team if they so desire. Countless rumors have already floated around the Celtics, and big names such as Gordon Hayward, Paul George, and Blake Griffin have been linked to the Celtics. Here is a breakdown on how the Celtics can acquire all three of these names while also bringing over Guerschon Yabusele and Ante Zizic from overseas, all while hanging on to a good chuck of those aforementioned assets.

Transaction #1: Renounce the right to Jonas Jerebko, Amir Johnson, James Young, and Gerald Green as free agents, don't tender Kelly Olynyk a qualifying offer, and release Tyler Zeller, Jordan Mickey, and Demetrius Jackson before their contracts become guaranteed.

These moves would allow the Celtics to free up a decent amount of cap space since, all of them possess cap holds that would otherwise hinder the Celtics ability to sign Hayward. Here is a look at the Celtics' salary cap situation without any of those players as a part of their roster:

Al Horford: $27,734,405
Avery Bradley: $8,808,989
Jae Crowder: $6,796,117
Isaiah Thomas: $6,261,395
Jayson Tatum: $5,645,400
Jaylen Brown: $4,956,480
Marcus Smart: $4,538,020
Guerschon Yabusele: $2,247,480
Terry Rozier: $1,988,520
Ante Zizic: $1,645,200
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Total Salary: $72,253,236

With an estimated salary cap of $99 million and Gordon Hayward expected to take nothing less than the maximum $29.7 million available to him, the Celtics will have to find a way to shed slightly less than $3 million off their current salary cap to be able to sign him. One man in this group who has trade value and an expiring contract (retaining him after this season would be a difficult choice for the Celtics to make since he will undoubtedly receive inflated offers from various teams due to his defensive skill set and young age) is Marcus Smart, and he should be the odd man out in my opinion should the Celtics get a verbal agreement from Hayward to sign with them. If this is the case, the Celtics should look around throughout the league for a defensive-minded big man who is on a cheap contract. Therefore:

Transaction #2: Celtics trade Marcus Smart to the Sacramento Kings for Skal Labissiere

Labissiere would provide the Celtics with a young center (something they are lacking) who could potentially start for this team immediately and not have to worry about the burden of providing anything on the offensive end, instead focusing strictly on the defensive end and rebounding. Although the Kings just drafted De'Aaron Fox, already have Buddy Hield, and just signed Bogdan Bogdanovic, they can use Smart off the bench to back up both starters and provide the team with a lot of energy and very strong defense off the bench. Shall he perform well for them, they will have more than enough money to retain him once he becomes a restricted free agent next year. Here is how the salary cap situation would look like for the Celtics following this trade:

Al Horford: $27,734,405
Avery Bradley: $8,808,989
Jae Crowder: $6,796,117
Isaiah Thomas: $6,261,395
Jayson Tatum: $5,645,400
Jaylen Brown: $4,956,480
Guerschon Yabusele: $2,247,480
Terry Rozier: $1,988,520
Ante Zizic: $1,645,200
Skal Labissiere: $1,242,240
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Total Salary: $68,957,456

Transaction #3: Sign Gordon Hayward

The previous mentioned trade would leave the Celtics with enough money to sign Gordon Hayward, making their salary cap situation look like this:

Gordon Hayward: $29,700,000
Al Horford: $27,734,405
Avery Bradley: $8,808,989
Jae Crowder: $6,796,117
Isaiah Thomas: $6,261,395
Jayson Tatum: $5,645,400
Jaylen Brown: $4,956,480
Guerschon Yabusele: $2,247,480
Terry Rozier: $1,988,520
Ante Zizic: $1,645,200
Skal Labissiere: $1,242,240
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Total Salary: $97,841,841

Now that the Celtics have Hayward, let's move on to George, who the Celtics would have to acquire via trade by meeting salary cap rules since they'd be dangerously close to being over the salary cap after signing Hayward. Provided below is a trade that would work salary wise and the Pacers would have a very tough time turning down:

Transaction #4: Celtics trade Jae Crowder, Avery Bradley, 2018 Celtics first round pick, 2019 Boston Celtics, and 2019 Los Angeles Clippers first round pick to the Indiana Pacers for Paul George

With the packages teams have received for superstar players in the last few months (DeMarcus Cousins and Chris Paul), there is no way the Pacers would receive a better offer for George than this one. It's a hefty price to give up if you're the Celtics, but necessary since Crowder's and Bradley's salaries are the only two salaries that can be put together to legally, under salary cap rules, work out a trade for George, unless they'd be willing to give up Isaiah Thomas, Jaylen Brown, or Jayson Tatum, which is highly doubtful. The Celtics' pick next year and in 2019 will not be high picks at all (they would be allowed to trade both in consecutive years since they have another first round pick next year in the Brooklyn Nets' pick) and the Clippers' pick has no potential to be a lottery pick, taking the various protections into consideration. All those picks would be well worth giving up for a player of George's caliber. Here is a breakdown of how the Celtics salary cap situation would like following this trade:

Gordon Hayward: $29,700,000
Al Horford: $27,734,405
Paul George: $19,508,958
Isaiah Thomas: $6,261,395
Jayson Tatum: $5,645,400
Jaylen Brown: $4,956,480
Guerschon Yabusele: $2,247,480
Terry Rozier: $1,988,520
Ante Zizic: $1,645,200
Skal Labissiere: $1,242,240
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Total Salary: $102,561,308

Now here is where things get interesting. The Celtics' interest in Griffin has also been well documented, as it should be. Despite suffering through some injuries this past season, Griffin is one of the most offensively gifted big men in the league. He is also only 28-years-old. The problem is that the Celtics wouldn't have anything close to enough money to sign him outright as a free agent. However, what if he were to inform the Clippers that he plans on leaving them in free agency regardless of who he signs with? Wouldn't the Clippers want to get some type of value in return for him? Wouldn't someone like Al Horford be more than they can ask for in a situation in which they lose Griffin?

Transaction #5: Celtics trade Al Horford to the Los Angeles Clippers for a sign-and-traded Blake Griffin

Although Horford may be a better defensive player than Griffin, there is no denying who the better overall player is out of the two. Taking into account the fact that Griffin is a few years younger than Horford, this trade would work out to be a good trade for the Celtics in both the short term and the long term. Here is a final breakdown of what the Celtics' salary cap situation and depth chart would look like following all of these transactions:

Gordon Hayward: $29,700,000
Blakr Griffin: $29,700,000
Paul George: $19,508,958
Isaiah Thomas: $6,261,395
Jayson Tatum: $5,645,400
Jaylen Brown: $4,956,480
Guerschon Yabusele: $2,247,480
Terry Rozier: $1,988,520
Ante Zizic: $1,645,200
Skal Labissiere: $1,242,240
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Empty Roster Slot: $815,615
Total Salary: $104,526,903

PG: Thomas/Rozier
SG: Hayward/Tatum
SF: George/Brown
PF: Griffin/Yabusele
C: Labissiere/Zizic

Through these various transactions, the Celtics would acquire three bona-fide superstars to add to another superstar in Thomas, all while keeping their salary cap payroll below the luxury tax limit (at least for one more year), bringing over their two young rookies from overseas that they selected last year (both who could play a crucial part on the team since it would be lacking experienced big men), keeping all of their important future first round draft picks that could all turn out to be high draft picks, and keep youngsters such as Brown, Tatum, and Rozier while acquiring another one in Labissiere (albeit at Smart's expense).

Finally, the team would then be free to go out and pursue free agents such as Ersan Ilyasova, Nene, Tony Allen, Vince Carter, Zaza Pachulia, Andrew Bogut, David Lee, or David West for the league minimum or sign some of their second round picks (Kadeem Allen, Jabari Bird, Abdel Nader, or Semi Ojeleye) for the league minimum.

dannywhitesox1

1.) 30 Jun 2017 06:23:43
If I'm Celtics I'd probably prefer WCS (Kings may too since Labissiere can play some pf) . Probably should try and bring a 3rd team into the Clippers trade but I guess if they got Horford they could sign a point guard and still try and be half decent (although their best route would likely be a big rebuild where they get a draft pick or young asset instead of Horford) .


2.) 30 Jun 2017 13:14:33
I can't see the clippers wanting to take on the horford contract, a contract I consider to be a bad one.


3.) 30 Jun 2017 14:31:03
Can you expand on your proposal a bit more? LOL kidding.


4.) 30 Jun 2017 15:20:47
Lol was that an essay or a trade idea? Lol.


5.) 30 Jun 2017 18:04:09
Did you get enough words in to get a decent a grade on this novellete?


6.) 30 Jun 2017 19:01:41
Seriously, I simply can't read all this. How do you possibly have the time to put in such an effort to write all this? Seriously. its insane.


 

 

 

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25 May 2017 20:33:17
The Celtics undoubtedly have the best mix of veteran talent and young prospects/draft picks in the entire NBA. The problems lies in the justified opinion that the team simply doesn't have the talent to compete with the Cleveland Cavaliers over the next few years. Up to this point, the team has been unwilling to part with their young talents and draft picks in return for a superstar or a few stars. If this trend continues this offseason and the team is unable to nab one of the top free agents off the open market, a better route for the team may be a full on rebuild, taking advantage of their still youthful veteran talent and turning them into the best young team and potential-filled team in the NBA by a country mile.

Note: I'm not saying that a Celtics rebuild is the best route for the team to take by any stretch of the imagination. What I am saying is that if the Celtics don't decide to at least consolidate some of their assets this offseason and miss out on top free agents, this is simply a route the team should consider taking.


Move 1: Draft Markelle Fultz

This is the most obvious and easiest move for the Celtics to make. Fultz would give the team their point guard of the future who can do a little bit of some things and a lot of many things for the Celtics for years to come.


Move 2: Let Amir Johnson, Jonas Jerebko, Gerald Green, and James Young walk in free agency

While solid role players for the Celtics this past season, none of these players (besides Young) would fit on a rebuilding team trying to accumulate as much young talent as possible.


Move 3: Let go of the non-guaranteed contracts of Tyler Zeller, Demetrius Jackson, and Jordan Mickey

Mickey and Jackson are both still young but both of them don't project to do much in the league at this point. Zeller is a smart player, however, he doesn't possess much upside at all and had a hard time cracking the rotation for the Celtics all year.


Move 4: Sign Guerschon Yabusele and Ante Zizic

Both players were draft by the Celtics last year and stashed overseas, and both proceeded to impress overseas in their respective leagues. Both players are still very young and will look to make a quick impression on the team and the league early on in their careers.


Trade 1:
Boston Celtics receive: Kristaps Porzingis, Willy Hernangomez, and Lance Thomas

New York Knicks receive: Isaiah Thomas

No one is more desperate to return to prominence on an annual basis than the Knicks. Well this would be their way back up there. Picking up an all-star in Thomas, along with ridding themselves of L. Thomas' contract (hence, the inclusion of Hernangomez) would provide them with the talent they have been hoping to acquire for years now to pair with Anthony. Sacrificing a future first-round pick to a team like the Nets would potentially rid them of Courtney Lee's or Joakim Noah's contract, allowing them to pursue big free agent names either this year or next to pair alongside Anthony and Thomas.

Acquiring Porzingis would give the Celtics another potential future all-star to play alongside Fultz, hopefully for years to come. A stretch-four who can shoot, rebound and block shots would be more than enough for the team to be excited about for the future. Adding a solid future role player like Hernangomez wouldn't hurt either, while adding Thomas and his contract wouldn't stifle their future, as the two years remaining on his contract following this season would expire before most of the players on this team would be up for contract renewals.


Trade 2:
Boston Celtics receive: Zach LaVine

Minnesota Timberwolves receive: Jae Crowder

Another trade that would make perfect sense for both teams involved in the case of a Celtics' rebuild. Crowder would give Tom Thibodeau the veteran leader and hard-working, defensive presence he desperately desired in his first year as the Timberwolves coach. The fact that he is still young and on a very team-friendly contract would only make Thibodeau and the Timberwolves happier.

LaVine would provide the Celtics with an extremely athletic and young shooting guard who can attack the rim very well and knock down three pointers consistently, although his mid-range game needs some improvement. If necessary, he could also split point guard duties with Fultz.


Trade 3:
Boston Celtics receive: Aaron Gordon

Orlando Magic receive: Avery Bradley

The Magic are in desperate need of some consistency and stability. Enter Avery Bradley! His defense prowess and shooting ability would give the Magic another wing alongside Evan Fournier who can knock down shots while providing leadership in the locker room. More importantly, he would provide the Magic with some sense of direction for the future.

Although not a good shooter by any stretch of the imagination, Gordon is extremely athletic and has the potential to be a very good all-around player who can rebound, pass, and defend at an above average level, making him the perfect complementary player to play alongside shooters Fultz, LaVine, and Porzingis.


Trade 4:
Boston Celtics receive: Jahlil Okafor

Philadelphia 76ers receive: Terry Rozier and Los Angeles Clippers' 2019 first-round pick

Rozier showed a lot of growth in his second year as a back-up point guard for the Celtics, which earned him a consistent spot in the rotation throughout the Celtics' playoff run. Packaging him alongside a first-round pick would be more than the 76ers could ask for in exchange for Okafor, who does not possess much trade value at all.

Giving up these two assets for Okafor, who comes with a history of injuries and attitude problems, would definitely be a gamble for the Celtics. However, with so many assets readily available for consolidation, the risk would be worth for the Celtics to take. Okafor does not stretch the floor in any way, but the Celtics would have Porzingis to do that. Therefore, the post would be wide open for Okafor to use his strong offensive post skills to score whenever necessary. His rebounding and shot blocking abilities would be a welcomed addition as well.


Trade 5:
Boston Celtics receive: Jamal Murray, Juan Hernangomez, and Tyus Jones

Denver Nuggets receive: Al Horford and resigned Shabazz Muhammad

Minnesota Timberwolves receive: Kenneth Faried and Lance Thomas

The Nuggets have been looking to consolidate their assets into a star player for a few years now. This would be their chance to do so. Horford would not only provide them with a solid option to play alongside Nikola Jokic in the frontcourt, forming potentially the best passing frontcourt in the league, he would hopefully convince Danilo Gallinari to come back to Denver to make a run at the playoffs over the picking years. Muhammad would provide Denver with another solid wing to improve their chances at a solid playoff run.

A hard-working, gritty player like Faried would be exactly the type of player who could provide an energy boost off of Thibodeau's bench. Thomas' veteran presence would also help in making a push for the playoffs.

Combo guard Murray has the most upside out of the three players the Celtics are receiving in this deal, but each of the three men has potential to develop into a solid role player in the league, and hopefully more than a role player in Murray's case. Pairing Hernangomez with his brother in the frontcourt would also be fun to watch, if anything, for their family.


Trade 6:
Boston Celtics receive: Kelly Oubre and Sam Dekker

Washington Wizards receive: resigned Kelly Olynyk and Montrezi Harrell

Houston Rockets receive: Marcin Gortat

It looks like the Wizards and Gortat might be ready for a divorce this offseason, so replacing him with two younger centers who are both very solid players would be ideal for the Wizards this offseason. Losing Oubre would hurt, but he is replaceable since it's almost a virtual guarantee that Otto Porter Jr. is resigned by the Wizards.

The Rockets are all set on the offensive side of the basketball, but they can definitely use some toughness and stability in the middle. Forget has never been the best player on a basketball court, however, he rebounds the ball very well and is a tough defender who could add extra toughness to the Rockets' frontcourt.

Oubre and Dekker would simply add additional youth, athleticism, and potential to a team already full of each of those characteristics. Oubre us more potential than Dekker, and the Celtics would hope to watch him blossom into a very solid starter in the league.


The final depth chart for this team would look like this:

PG: Fultz/Murray/Jones
SG: LaVine/Smart/Dekker
SF: Gordon/Brown/Oubre
PF: Porzingis/Yabusele/J. Hernangomez
C: Okafor/Zizic/W. Hernangomez

The potential of this team would be through the roof! Again, I don't think this would ever happen nor do I think it would be the best course of action for the team to take, however, the team was the choose the rebuilding route, this would be the ideal way to go.

dannywhitesox1

1.) 25 May 2017 22:10:09
The Knicks wouldn't trade Porzingis for IT. IT is on an expiring contract and can't defend at all. While there aren't a ton of guys on his level, there are a lot of players with similar skill sets and Porzingis's skill set is almost impossible to find and he's locked up for the foreseeable future.
The second isn't terrible, but I don't think it's worth the risk for the Celtics or the Timberwolves. One team would end up looking bad at the end of that trade.
3rd trade is bad for both teams. Bradley is close to free agency, the Magic have little hope of being a playoff team, and they just got burned on a win now move. Gordon is a guy who has the talent to become a star but it's still up in the air. If you're trading Bradley you want a sure thing and the magic are better off with high upside guys while trying to rebuild.
4th Not terrible, but maybe to much for okafor.
5th not enough for horford
6th Washington is getting fleeced.


2.) 25 May 2017 22:12:02
So you think that IT can get you Porzingis AND Hernangomez? LAC pick in Okafor trade? That pick looks like it's going to be top 5. Also, out of those 3 centers, Okafor would be 3rd in depth chart. Rest is pretty good if they want to rebuild, but Celtics would have to give much more assets in Porzingis trade so it makes all other trades pretty impossible.


3.) 26 May 2017 01:19:30
Only 2 current players return lmao hahahahahhahaha.


4.) 26 May 2017 19:40:52
Most of those trades are heavily skewed in Bostons favor. Part of the reason Boston hasn't traded for a star is cause they overvalue their assets.


 

 

01 Aug 2016 00:12:05
Monstrous 12-team teade:


Philadelphia 76ers
Trade: Jahlil Okafor and Jerami Grant
Receive: Isaiah Thomas

Depth Chart:
Thomas/ Bayless
Henderson/ Rodriguez
Covington/ Luwawu-Cabarrot
Simmons/ Saric
Noel/ Embiid



Boston Celtics
Trade: Isaiah Thomas, Avery Bradley, Jaylen Brown, Kelly Olynyk, Marcus Smart, Amir Johnson, John Holland, Celtics 2017 first round pick (right to swap with the Nets 2017 first round pick) and Nets 2018 first round pick
Receive: Russell Westbrook (extended), Blake Griffin (extended), J. J. Redick and Mo Williams

Depth Chart:
Westbrook/ Rozie
Redick/ Hunter
Crowder/ Green
Griffin/ Jerebko
Horford/ Zeller



Milwaukee Bucks
Trade: Greg Monroe and Michael Carter-Williams
Receive: Kelly Olynyk, Iman Shumpert and Paul Pierce

Depth Chart:
Antetokounmpo/ Dellavedova
Shumpert/ Pierce
Middleton/ Teletovic
Parker/ Plumlee
Olynyk/ Maker



Phoenix Suns
Trade: Brandon Knight and Tyson Chandler
Receive: Greg Monroe, Marcus Smart and John Holland

Depth Chart:
Bledsoe/ Smart
Booker/ Barbosa
Tucker/ Warren
Dudley/ Bender
Monroe/ Len



Sacramento Kings
Trade: DeMarcus Cousins and Rudy Gay
Receive: Brandon Knight, Gary Harris, Jahlil Okafor, Jerami Grant and Nets 2018 first round pick

Depth Chart:
Knight/ Collison
Harris/ McLemore
Casspi/ Barnes
Cauley-Stein/ Grant
Okafor/ Papagiannis



Los Angeles Clippers
Trade: Blake Griffin, J. J. Redick and Paul Pierce
Receive: Kenneth Faried, Rudy Gay, Avery Bradley and Celtics 2017 first round pick (right to swap with the Nets 2017 first round pick)

Depth Chart:
Paul/ Rivers
Bradley/ Crawford
Gay/ Mbah a Moute
Faried/ Bass
Jordan/ Speights



Denver Nuggets
Trade: Danilo Gallinari, Kenneth Faried, Wilson Chandler, Emmanuel Mudiay, Gary Harris, Nikola Jokic and Nuggets 2017 first round pick
Receive: DeMarcus Cousins, Kevin Love and Ricky Rubio

Depth Chart:
Rubio/ Nelson
Murray/ Beasley
Barton/ Miller
Love/ Arthur
Cousins/ Nurkic



Oklahoma City Thunder
Trade: Russell Westbrook
Receive: Emmanuel Mudiay, Jaylen Brown, Nikola Jokic, Cody Zeller and Nuggets 2017 first round pick

Depth Chart:
Mudiay/ Payne
Oladipo/ Roberson
Brown/ Singler
Kanter/ Zeller
Adams/ Jokic



Cleveland Cavaliers
Trade: Kevin Love, Iman Shumpert and Mo Williams
Receive: Michael Carter-Williams, Wilson Chandler, Amir Johnson and Tyson Chandler

Depth Chart:
Irving/ Carter-Williams
Smith (if re-signed) / Chandler
James/ Dunleavy
Johnson/ Frye
Thompson/ Chandler



Minnesota Timberwolves
Trade: Ricky Rubio and Adreian Payne
Receive: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist

Depth Chart:
Dunn/ Jones
LaVine/ Muhammad
Wiggins/ Kidd-Gilchrist
Dieng/ Hill
Towns/ Aldrich



Charlotte Hornets
Trade: Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Cody Zeller
Receive: Nikola Vucevic and Adreian Payne

Depth Chart:
Walker/ Sessions
Lamb/ Harrison
Batum/ Belinelli
Williams/ Hawes
Vucevic/ Kaminsky



Orlando Magic
Trade: Nikola Vucevic
Receive: Danilo Gallinari

Depth Chart:
Payton/ Augustin
Fournier/ Meeks
Gallinari/ Hezonja
Gordon/ Green
Ibaka/ Biyombo


Obviously this would be contingent upon Westbrook and Griffin signing extensions with the Celtics but how awesome would this be? Who would be the big winners and losers?

dannywhitesox1

1.) 01 Aug 2016 01:43:32
OKC shooting would be HORRIBLE but they do get good value for Westbrook.


2.) 01 Aug 2016 02:58:57
Denver gets robbed.


3.) 01 Aug 2016 13:56:47
Winners:
76ers
Bucks
Suns
Kings
Clippers
Thunder

On the fences:
Cavs
Magic
Hornets

Losers:
Celtics
Nuggets
Cavs.


4.) 01 Aug 2016 16:01:41
Love this for the clippers.


5.) 01 Aug 2016 16:04:50
MKG is good, but Wolves won't trade Rubio for a back-up, especially without a vet PG coming back.


 

 

 

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14 Aug 2017 22:44:30
I agree that the 76ers may be giving up too much but what you guys have to understand is that the Knicks aren't at all desperate to trade Porzingis, and even Anthony for that matter taking into account the offers they've received for him, therefore, it would take a king's ransom deal to grab him. 76ers have a lot of assets that they will have to consolidate at some point, and they should that sooner rather than waiting till later and receiving pennies on the dollar.

Porzingis has a truly unique skill set, is a superstar in the making playing in a superstar's league, and is extremely young, making him worth the king's ransom. The fact that they would still have enough money to spend on a top free agent next season in an effort to fill out their line-up would be icing on the cake.

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01 Aug 2017 06:22:55
Yeah, because I'm sure he's just itching to go to Atlanta as a free agent in two years.

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01 Aug 2017 06:21:09
Yeah because I'm sure he's just itching to go to Atlanta as a free agent.

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19 Jun 2017 17:20:23
This would be a hard situation to leave on top of the extra money.

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19 Jun 2017 07:03:25
Actually very sensible but Timberwolves would at least have to give the Pacers their first pick this year.

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