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05 Jun 2015 16:54:22
Philly Minnesota Simple
Philly trades #3 and either heat or Lakers 2016 1st
Minnesota trades #1
Why for philly? They get their pg in Russell
Why for Minnesota? They still get okafor while adding another 1st round pick.
Done deal
1.) 05 Jun 2015 17:06:59
As noted before, the Sixers will not be held up at the cost of an additional #1 to get Russell. They have the 3 pick and there are 3 extremely desirable players. They will draft one of those 3. If not Russell, they may just keep the BIG and go 3 young bigs for 2 big player spots.
They may be willing to trade back to say- Denver at #7- so the Nuggets can get Okafor or Towns. The Sixers would receive back one of Denver's stable of 2016 draft picks and still get one of the second set of players.
Its not Sam Hinkie's style to give up a first to get a player that will probably be there at 3 anyhow. Hinkie has given every indication that he will take the best talent at his spot or move back, not forward.
2.) 05 Jun 2015 17:15:49
Or draft mudiay and like some scouts say that his jump shot form is good he's just needs to get consistent if Russell isn't there but he probably will be
3.) 05 Jun 2015 17:47:28
No Sixer's DO NOT want a big. They have 2. We want Russell and no we have no interest in trading down unless Russell is gone.
4.) 05 Jun 2015 18:09:22
If twolves really want Okafor, it puts the balance of power for this trade in the Sixer's favor. They are the team with the pick to get okafor. Twolves can take him #1 overall, but then they don't get any other assets. Twolves can also get him at #3 overall, pay him less, and acquire something from Philly. I think both teams could work something out. Sixer's trade #3 pick, Miami #1 next year, and Covington or grant for #1 pick and lavine.
5.) 05 Jun 2015 18:50:45
JVOUG- gets his guy LaVine!!
DGRAY- I agree the Sixers do not want a big. If Russell is there, take him. If not, then consider trading down. If the trade down isn't there, take the big and work the three together at about 32 minutes per game per player.
But overall, there are options for the Sixers to the point where they can call the Timberwolves' or Lakers' bluff that they'll take Russell or trade out of their slot so someone else can take Russell.
Plus, Hinkie is just crazy enough where if he says he wants the best talent available no matter what position, the other two teams kind of have to believe him.
6.) 05 Jun 2015 19:16:06
I would love for the sixers to get lavine in the deal too.
Russell
Lavine
Grant/Covington
Noel/saric
Embied
7.) Here's an interesting article for everyone that wants to draft Mudiay. This guy has worried me from the start. This seals it for me.
http://goo.gl/nvZm1y
i want absolutely nothing to do with him unless he falls pretty far.
8.) 06 Jun 2015 02:28:08
Phiilyrich I never got to respond on the trade idea for lance and kemba walker when you said tony wroten shot 40.5 percent which is better than kemba walker but you didn't bring up his 3 point percentage which is a low 26 percent and wroten has a higher field goal percentage because he drives the lane more an has 4 inches on a smaller walker. Wroten also shot 35 percent from mid range which isn't good compared to most NBA players. When I said shooting 35 percent isn't bad I was talking about 3 point percentage not overall percentage .
I just wanted to let you know not to get my words twisted in the wrong way.
9.) 06 Jun 2015 05:29:17
What's your point? That's why he isn't the consensus number one. That's why people look at things other than stats. Something you prob should do when realizing Covington and wroten aren't amazing like you claim
10.) 06 Jun 2015 05:38:58
If Russel is gone that the sixers will pick Mudiay, simple as that.
11.) 06 Jun 2015 14:53:02
Kiks: I don't think its that simple. See the above article about Mudiay.
Also, I really don't think Hinkie's going to let Okafor or Towns just slip right by without taking trade offers for the #3 spot. That would be foolish when there's plenty of demand for the BIG that falls to 3 and plenty of good shooters between 4-8 such as Hezonja, Winslow, Kaminski (now projected as a top 8 (Porzingis, Stanley Johnson, etc.) that fit into what the Sixers are trying to do.
Would you rather have Mudiay at 3 or one of the above plus a player/future pick?
I think the Sixers are in a great spot here. There are 3 top-top players and if the one they don't want isn't there, someone will badly want that guy.
12.) 06 Jun 2015 14:56:03
@King:
". I've been watching him since his UCONN days and he's shooting around 35 percent which isn't bad but he's only 24 and has room to improve"
So you were not specific about 35% being his 3 PT shooting percentage- probably because he shot 3's at 30.4%, not 35%.
Nice try.
13.) 06 Jun 2015 16:02:54
At pizza I was looking at the stats like Phillyrich does all the times so say something to him and I never said anything about Covington on this post
14.) 06 Jun 2015 16:04:47
His shooting percentages dipped this because when al Jefferson was hurt he was relied on as the number one scoring option on a hornets team and he isn't ready to be a number one option but he can because he's only 24 and in college his three point percentage in his last year was 34 percent also
15.) 06 Jun 2015 17:50:21
Point less trade for Sixers. Russel will fall to them at three Nd if not they get one of the super bigs in this draft for a huge competing advantage or a trade piece later. The bigs have more value then the Russell and mudiay. Why would the Sixers give up so much to move up?
16.) 06 Jun 2015 22:47:40
That a boy, King. Look up the stats. It makes for a better debate. Good job.
Pizza, I hope you weren't talking about me and insinuating that I thought Covington and Wroten are "amazing." They're pretty good and seem to be growing with the team.
Covington seems to have found his role while Wroten is big and can score. I'm not sure they'll be Sixers 12 months from now but they're here now.
03 Jun 2015 23:25:52
Simple Sixers Lakers trade
Sixer's trade #3 and heat or thunders 2016 1st round pick
Sixers receive #2
Lakers trade #2
Lakers receive #3 and heat or thunder 2016 1st round pick
Sixers get their guy in Russell
Lakers still get their big man and another pick
Only dropping 1 pick
1.) 03 Jun 2015 23:55:32
As a lakers fan I would take it but ask why do sixers do this
2.) 04 Jun 2015 00:51:31
They're getting Russell at #3.
3.) 04 Jun 2015 13:36:11
As noted before, the Sixers will not be held up for Russell. If Okafor or Towns drops, they'll either take that player and build their front court with 3 guys getting about 32 minutes per night by sharing the two big man positions. If you look at the rookie leaders in minutes played per game, only Wiggins and Galloway averaged more than 32 minutes per game. In the entire league, I think less than 10 big guys got more than 32 minutes per night. Nerlins Noelm, who had a very good rookie year, didn't even average 31 minutes/game.
Or, the Sixers will hold an auction for the #3 pick. I'm hoping that if that happens, Denver steps in to move up from 7 and sweetens the deal with one of their stockpile of 2016 1st rounders. For example, they have the rights to the better of their own pick or the Knicks- unrestricted.
Should the Sixers get a valuable asset to drop back, they can still get an excellent prospect at 7. At least 1 of the following will be on the board: Hezonja, Mudiay (who I really do not want) Stanley Johnson, Justise Winslow, Porzingis. (I don't think WCS makes it to 7).
So in this case, theking is right. Why would the Sixers trade a 1st rounder to move up 1 slot when a top talent that's in demand will fall into their laps at #3 no matter what.
4.) 04 Jun 2015 15:22:53
Clarkson also played a lot of minutes because one game he played 48 minutes against the kings
5.) 04 Jun 2015 16:48:21
No thank you from Sixers. If the lakers want to draft Russell at two they can do it and we'll take the better player at three in okafor or towns. Sixers really shouldn't consider any of the holes on the roster filled yet. Noel will be playing power forward for the first full season ever. Embiid is off an injury plagued college career. Both show potential but not garrentees for a variety of reason. Okafor or towns would be insurance if nothing else.
6.) 04 Jun 2015 17:52:24
Hey Genius: I made a point about young players averaging more than 32 minutes a game in order to show that the Sixers can still utilize 3 bigs in the PF and C positions and not be held up by the Lakers playing poker and threatening to select Russell.
You're point about Clarkson is nonsense. I don't care if he played 48 minutes in a game. He averaged 25.0 minutes/game. Look it up. I'll try to make my points slower so as not to lose you next time.
7.) 04 Jun 2015 17:56:39
Sixers aren't moving from 3. The only trade they might do is trading for the Lakers 2nd 1st round pick
8.) 05 Jun 2015 01:13:49
Clarkson for e whole year averaged 25 minutes not when he started every game since February where you should see the minutes there to GENIUS
29 May 2015 14:16:21
Sixers-Warriors
Sixer's trade Covington and heat 2016 1st round pick
Sixer's receive Harrison Barnes
Warriors trade Harrison Barnes
Warriors receive Heats 2016 1st round pick top 10 protected from Sixer's. Also receive Covington
I'm a Sixer's fan and would love to see Barnes here in philly. Warriors get good value for a bench player.
1.) 29 May 2015 14:34:41
Barnes is not a bench player, he's their starting SF
2.) 29 May 2015 14:56:47
Pretty sure it goes.
Curry
Thompson
Iggy
Draymon
Bogut
3.) 29 May 2015 16:05:33
No dude, Iggy comes off the bench
4.) 29 May 2015 18:01:55
Dgray 0. Lakersdynasty 1.
5.) 29 May 2015 18:31:34
Who cares. Its still value for Barnes. Instead of correcting me. What do u think of the trade.
6.) 29 May 2015 19:10:05
Sixers get ripped off. The highest that barnes is worth is a couple 2nd rounders
7.) 29 May 2015 19:46:47
Covington looked really good now that he's finally had a chance to play. It's hard to trade him and it's hard for warriors to trade barnes.
However, warriors are going to ahve to pay Barnes soon. Covington is super cheap for three more years. I think this trade could go down fairly. The money makes it a good trade for the Warriors.
8.) 29 May 2015 20:34:09
And yet sixers are third worst team in league. Warriors are top. Offer a few 2nds and get nothing. No one except Philly would do this. It's a horrible trade. And it's weird, most around the league highly value Barnes. Not so much about Covington. The trade is a failure.
9.) 29 May 2015 23:02:59
The GSW had the best record in the league and are in the finals, why would they trade away one of their starters? They obviously have a combination that works really well. He's under contract for 2 more years. The year he's a free agent the cap increases to an estimated $108M. Lee will be off the books by then. They'll be fine.
10.) 30 May 2015 00:49:21
because barnes isa better young version of jeff green
11.) 30 May 2015 08:06:27
^ NewLakerDynasty nailed it
12.) 31 May 2015 14:20:15
Trade is no good for either team, especially gsw. I think sixers have other plans for the heat #1 pick next year, not Barnes. And gsw would never mess with the great chemistry they have. just doesn't make much sense to me either way.
08 Jul 2015 21:36:27
Bc his contract expired when the season ended. That makes him a free agent genius
08 Jul 2015 21:30:21
No from Sixers. I just really do not like payton
07 Jul 2015 20:32:25
Not happenening new laker. Wouldn't trade noel for bledsoe. Suns can keep him
07 Jul 2015 20:30:14
Jeff green is a free agent and green and Lee are not enough for bledsoe
04 Jul 2015 21:28:02
Sixers fan here, I love Noel but a stud pg is more imporant so I do the deal.
Russell
Staukis
Cov
Okafor
Embiied
I like it
30 May 2015 00:33:29
If I were a pistons fan, I'm taking Reggie Jackson