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20 May 2018 16:36:46
Suns trade Dudley, Warren, Ulis, #16 pick, #59 pick
Suns get #4 pick Grizzlies, Parsons, Noah

Grizzlies trade Parsons, #4 pick
Grizzlies get #9 pick Knicks, Warren, Ulis

Knicks trade #9 pick, Noah
Knicks get #16 pick, Dudley, #59 pick


Suns:
Doncic/Knight/vet PG
Booker/Daniels
Jackson/Parsons
Chriss/Bender/Williams
Bamba/Chandler/Noah
- Suns draft #1 Doncic, #4 Bamba
- let Len, Payton walk
- Suns take Parsons' and Noah's bad contracts but it is worth, especially considering the mentoring factor from needed veterans and Suns can afford due to their young core and huge cap flexibilty

Grizzlies:
Conley/Ulis
McLemore/Snelden
Brooks/Warren
Green//Martin/Rabb
Gasol/Davis
- add #9 pick (Sexton, Bridges, Knox...)
- huge cap relief adds flexibilty (Warren/Ulis vs Parsons) to make moves and to sign new and/or own FA (Evans)

Knicks:
Mudiay/Ntilikina
Lee/Dotson/Baker
THJ/Thomas/Dudley
Porzingis/
Kanter or O'Quinn/
- also huge cap relief gives Knicks more flexibilty (Dudley 9.5 expiring contract over Noah's 2y 37.8m remaining contract)
- resign either Kanter or O'Quinn
- add #16 pick



Comments?

forma

1.) 20 May 2018 16:48:56
PHX would say that's too much to give for "just" the 4th pick. Nobody (not even a team like the Suns) wants to be saddled with the bad deals that Parsons an Noah have. You might have tossed Deng in there to make it a trifecta.


2.) 20 May 2018 17:23:26
Parsons deal is significantly worse than all bad deals in the nba. Batum is a close 2nd. #4, parsons for chandler and warren is probably fair. Or something along those lines.


3.) 20 May 2018 17:31:34
Phoenix says no.


 

 

11 May 2018 13:29:50
Blazers trade Leonard, Harkless, 24th pick
Blazers get Aldridge

76ers trade Fultz, Covington, TLC, 10th pick, 26th pick, 1st round pick 2020 (top5 protected)
76ers get Leonard, Harkless

Spurs trade Leonard, Aldridge
Spurs get Fultz, Covington, Leonard, TLC, 10th pick, 24th pick, 26th pick, 1st round pick 2020 (top5 protected) 76ers

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23 Apr 2018 13:36:43
Bucks trade Bledsoe, Brogdon, Maker, Snell, 1st round pick
Bucks get Beal, Walker

Wizards trade Wall, Beal
Wizards get Bledsoe, Batum, Maker, Monk, 1st round pick Bucks

Hornets trade Walker, Batum, Monk
Hornets get Wall, Brogdon, Snell

Bucks:
Walker/Delli/Jennings
Beal/Brown
Middleton/X
Giannis/X
Henson/Zeller
- immediat championship contender

Wizards:
Bledsoe/Satoransky
Batum/Monk
Porter/Oubre
Morris/Maker
Gortat/Mahinmi/Maker
- young talented team with new face

Hornets:
Wall/Brogdon
Lamb/Snell
MKG/Bacon
Williams/Kaminsky
Howard/Zeller/Hernangomez
- build around Wall

forma

1.) 23 Apr 2018 22:24:03
Don't like it for Wizards. This is not enough for Wall and Beal.


 

 

20 Apr 2018 22:55:40
Bucks trade Bledsoe, Brogdon, Maker, Snell, 1st round pick
Bucks get Beal, Walker

Wizards trade Wall, Beal
Wizards get Bledsoe, Batum, Maker, Monk, 1st round pick Bucks

Hornets trade Walker, Batum, Monk
Hornets get Wall, Brogdon, Snell

Bucks:
Walker/Delli/Jennings
Beal/Brown
Middleton/X
Giannis/X
Henson/Zeller
- immediat championship contender

Wizards:
Bledsoe/Satoransky
Batum/Monk
Porter/Oubre
Morris/Maker
Gortat/Mahinmi/Maker
- young talented team with new face

Hornets:
Wall/Brogdon
Lamb/Snell
MKG/Bacon
Williams/Kaminsky
Howard/Zeller/Hernangomez
- build around Wall

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15 Apr 2018 13:11:29
Trade:
76ers trade Fultz, TLC, Korkmaz, 10th pick 2018 (Lakers), 1st round pick 2019 (Kings), 38th pick 2018 (Nets)
Spurs trade Leonard

It's like 4x 1st rounder (Fultz + Lakers pick 2018 + Kings pick 2019 + 2x young talents including the 38th pick 2018)


76ers:
Simmons/McConnell
Redick/Belinelli/Anderson
Leonard/Covington
Saric/Ilyasova
Embiid/Holmes/A.Johnson
- resign: Redick, Belinelli, Ilyasova, A.Johnson
- still own 3 x 2nd round pick 2018 (Rockets', Knicks' and own)

Spurs:
Murray/Mills/White
Fultz/Korkmaz
Anderson/TLC
LA/Bertans
Gasol/
+ add 10th, 18th, 38th and 49th pick
- let Parker, Lauvergne, Forbes walk. Manu retires due to rebuild, so Gay and Green will not pick up their player's option, let them also walk
- resign Anderson, Bertans
- Spurs and coach Pop are the best in develop european talents like TLC and Korkmaz
+ main reason: Fultz and Lakers' (2018) and Kings' pick (2019)

forma

1.) 15 Apr 2018 13:51:36
Sixers don't have the kings 2019 pick, it was traded to Boston.


2.) 15 Apr 2018 18:56:29
They either get the Lakers pick OR the Kings pick, not both.

Korkmaz out, Saric in and you may get closer but still not have it happen.


 

 

 

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21 May 2018 11:13:20
Suns trade 1st pick, Knight
Wolves trade Towns, Teague

Suns:
- very talented young roster = keep building around Booker, Towns, Jackson, Bender...
- contender within 1-2 seasons
Teague/Ulis
Booker/Daniels
Jackson/Warren/Dudley
Chriss/Bender/Williams
Towns/Chandler

Wolves:
- draft Doncic with #1 pick, #20 SF Hutchinson or Musa
- trade Aldrich also to be able to sign Cousins to near max contract
- sign vet SF
- resign Bjelica, DRose
Doncic/Jones/DRose
Wiggins/Knight
Butler/vet SF/#20
Gibson/Bjelica
Cousins/Dieng/Patton

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07 Feb 2018 14:28:56
EAST COAST SHUFFLE

works on trade machine

Hornets trade Walker, Batum, Monk
Hornets get Jackson, Shumpert, Johnson, 1st round pick 2018 Nets, 1st round pick 2020 Pistons

Pistons trade Jackson, Johnson, Galloway, Ellenson, 1st round pick 2020
Pistons get Thomas(use trade exception), Batum, Rose, Monk

Cavs trade Thomas, Shumpert, Rose, 1st round pick via Nets 2018
Cavs get Walker, Galloway, Ellenson

Hornets:
- sure Hornets lost some talent with this, but with Nets' and own pick Hornets could have a good draft (good draft class) in order to finally overcome mediocrity
- gain much flexibilty
Jackson/MCW
Lamb/Shumpert
Johnson/MKG/Bacon
Williams/Kaminski
Howard/Zeller

Pistons:
- all in move with a new IT in Mo-Town and i think Detroit will have arguments to ensure IT's longterm stay (talent, contender status... + uncertainties about IT's future at all around the league)
- get a playmaking wing, who can make plays, shoot the 3's and defend with Batum
IT/Smith/Rose
Kennard/Monk
Batum/Bullock
Griffin/Tolliver/Leuer
Drummond/Reed/Moreland


Cavs:
- Cavs need a change in locker-room and some fresh blood, Kemba will all bring this immediately, Galloway is a solid vet, Ellenson a very talented big who will learn from Love
- yes Cavs lose the Nets pick but Kemba is clearly an update over IT (also longter, age, contract situation) and Ellenson also was a #18 selection by the Pistons in 2016
- get another trade exception for Thomas to go after Evans
Walker/Calderon
Galloway/Wade/Korver/JR
LeBron/Evans/Osman
Love/Crowder/Ellenson
Thompson/Frye/Zizic

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10 Jul 2017 13:21:35
Who will make the playoffs in the west?

#1Warriors (/)
#2Spurs (/)
#3Rockets (/) (added CP3)
#4Thunder (+2) (added PG13)
#5Wolves (+8) (added Butler, Teague, Crawford, Gibson)
#6Grizzlies (+1)
#7Pelicans (+3) (training camp)
#8Clippers (-4) (new face/team Teodosic, Gallinari, Beverley but very experienced)
________
#9Nuggets (/) (due to the west)
#10Blazers (-2) (due to the west)
#11Jazz (-6) (need at least 1 season to recover, but still playoff contender)
.....

Thoughts?

forma

1.) 10 Jul 2017 14:01:55
I think the race will be legitimately 11 deep (maybe even 12 if DSJ on the Mavs can continue looking half as good as he looks in summer league since with Matthews, Barnes, Dirk and Noel they don't have a bad starting lineup) .

Personally I'd have Nuggets making it ahead of Grizzlies, Pelicans and maybe Clippers. They could really cement their place in the playoffs if they upgraded at point guard (I think they should roll the dice on Bledsoe who I think should be relatively cheap to get considering recent trades, his injury history and the direction Suns are going in) . The Nuggets depth should help them a lot over the course of the season.

If I had to bet I'd say Grizzlies don't make it (and certainly not as 6th seed) as they are an older team that has already lost Randolph, Carter and could potentially lose Tony Allen and Green.

I think Clippers will struggle mightily without Paul who made Jordan and Griffin's life a lot easier. Beverley although a great defender and shooter isn't a playmaking pg (I don't know much about Tedosic) .

Pelicans will be interesting to watch since Davis and Cousins duo can be unstoppable or a complete train wreck. Even so I'm not convinced the supporting cast (Holiday included) is enough to get them by especially over the grind of the 82 game season.

Many expected Portland to be much better last season. Maybe they rebound this year with Nurkic adding a new wrinkle to their team.

Jazz should have a good team and they have guys on their team who can probably step up a bit in Hayward's absence but with no major signings to try and replace his scoring I think they'll struggle to put the ball in the hoop especially with little floor spacing having Rubio, Favors and Gobert on the floor potentially starting together. Don't like their odds to make playoffs.


 

 

29 Jun 2017 11:39:25
Spurs trade Aldridge, Green, 2nd round pick
Spurs get Wade, Okafor

Bulls trade Wade
Bulls get Aldridge, 2nd round pick Spurs

76ers trade Okafor
76ers get Green

Spurs:
- Murray will be Spurs long-term PG solution so don't go for older Lowry, Hill, Teague...
-> instead resign veteran backcourt to secure veteran leadership (Ginobili, Mills)

- resign Gasol(1+1y), Mills(4y), Simmons(4y), Dedmon(4y), Lee(1y) & Ginobili(1y)

Murray/Mills/Parker/White
Wade/Simmons/Ginobili
Leonard/Bertand/Blossomgame
Gasol/Lee/Leonard
Dedmon/Okafor/Gasol
- Okafor will get a boost in SA under coach Popovich and the winning culture of the franchise and its veterans (Leonard, Parker, Gasol, Ginobili, Wade...)
- in 2018 Wade, Parker & Ginobili (+ Gasol maybe) will be FA (Aldridge and Green would be under contract until 2019) = gain much flexibility ~35m cap space more
-> Add major FA at frontcourt (primary: PF)

2019:
Murray/Mills/White
Wade/Simmons
Leonard/Bertrand/Blossomgame
FA/Gasol
Okafor/Dedmon/Gasol

Bulls:
- get a veteran, former All-Star PF/C Aldridge to teach Markkanen, Portis at least until 2019
- add 2nd round pick

76ers:
- add veteran shooter and good locker room guy in Green
-> release Henderson

forma

1.) 29 Jun 2017 18:16:23
spurs giving too much. Take Green out of the deal.


2.) 30 Jun 2017 02:43:09
No way Spurs trade FOR an aged veteran with not much left and a last place team's reject.


 

 

29 Jun 2017 09:05:39
Kings

Fox/MasonIII
Hield/Bogdanovic/Richardson/Temple
Jackson/Bogdanovic
Labissiere/Giles
WCS/Papagiannis/Koufos


- young, talented roster but very thin on SF position

-> give offer to:
1. O.Porter Jr (max offer)
2. Iggy (max offer)
3. J.Johnson (10+m)
4. Tucker (10+m)
5. Ingles (10+m)
6. Snell (10+m)

- resign Lawson

Fox/MasonIII/Lawson
Hield/Bogdanovic/Richardson/Temple
Iggy/Jackson/Bogdanovic
Labissiere/Giles
WCS/Papagiannis/Koufos

forma

1.) 29 Jun 2017 10:20:41
None of those guys are long-term options at sf (Snell is only one kind of young) and for the next few years Kings will be so bad that it won't matter who they have there. Even if they gave Iggy the max I think he'd take substantially less to at least stay with a contender but probably isn't leaving Warriors.


 

 

 

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12 Jul 2017 01:29:57
Bucks improve wing defense with Dudley? only thing Dudley at this stage brings is veteran leadership.

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12 Jul 2017 01:27:48
Wolves already signed Crawford at SG backup
Green already signed with Cavs.

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02 Jul 2017 11:32:38
Bucks traded Knight to Suns 2 years ago.

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29 Jun 2017 17:02:12
sign Gallo for what? MLE?

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26 Jun 2017 16:58:53
Wiggins and 2x 1st rounder for renting George?

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