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14 Feb 2016 17:47:51
Two potential Knicks trades.

Knicks/ Bucks:

Lopez and Williams for Monroe.

Obvious why the knicks would want this, Monroe and Porzingis would be a great combo, because, unlike the pairing in Detroit, Porzingis doesn't need to be down low to score and can help provide great rim protection to make up for Monroes deficiency.

The bucks would be interested because they get a solid wing player in Williams who can add quick offense, but they also get a Center who is selfless AND would fit great with their defensive schemes.

Second trade is Atl/ Knicks

Teague for Calderon, Grant and a 2nd.

Gives the hawks a pg that can shoot, a prospect and a pick. Not an amazing haul, but if they are looking to rebuild, it does give some decent value.

Knicks lineup:

Teague
Afflalo
Melo
Porzingis
Monroe

This is a VERY solid lineup and really could make some noise. Additionally, it lines up that if Afflalo opts out, they could potentially have the cap space to mkae a decent sg acquisition. Little to no chance for DeRozen, but Beal would work great. Again, it would be a bit of a stretch, but a line up of:

Teague
Beal
Melo
Porzingis
Monroe

That is a serious contender in the East.

Hey! A guy can dream :) P-Jax, work your magic and earn that 60 million!

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1.) 14 Feb 2016 18:25:39
Bucks would pass.


2.) 14 Feb 2016 18:40:01
ATL should receive a better pack.


3.) 14 Feb 2016 18:42:23
Horrible for bucks.


4.) 14 Feb 2016 19:09:27
thrill, we get it, you claim every trade involving the bucks is AWFUL. But i have read in multiple articles, it would work out well for the bucks. The additional pieces are changeable. but its not that far off.

As for atlanta, knicks aren't giving up a 1st for him. Perhaps throw thomas instead of grant, but something along those lines seems about right in value.


5.) 14 Feb 2016 20:13:50
@knicksallrgeway i don't think every bucks trade is awful, this one is a joke Lopez has a horrible contract and Williams is a bench guy at best and is a bust if the bucks wanted Lopez they would have signed him they wanted Monroe and he's having a really good year we all know that Monroe isn't a good defender when the bucks signed him they new what they were getting they needed an inside scorer because they don't have shooters, and you can get off my nuts, every time I comment if you don't like it don't read it.


6.) 15 Feb 2016 10:51:19
I don't think it turned out as bucks planned since trying to trade him.


 

 

09 Feb 2016 17:12:24
Saw this rumor flying around.

Knicks - Bulls

Pau and Noah for Lopez, Grant and williams

Gets them a long term center, prospect and a wing. Just read it, figured i'd throw it out there.

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1.) 09 Feb 2016 18:04:40
Phil would be the best ever if he could steal Gasol. AGAIN.


2.) 09 Feb 2016 18:09:11
Interesting idea, CHI getting fine return in positions they need for a guy that probably walks at the end of season; only problem is Lopez contract which reduces flexibility this summer (although, now they can move Gibson; equal it after sending away Dunleavy jr. to) . If I am picky I'd ask for Galloway, Thomas instead D. Williams, they are better fit than he is (he is more of PF, while they are wing players) .

But if SAC pick converts this year, some of these players could be redundant; and that option might prevent CHI from doing this.

Personally, I'd even do it, but only if I have good trade in place (involving Gibson, Mirotic, McDermott for an upgrade at wing) . That way CHI has fine team, two possible picks, and enough money to add some impact player in FA in position they need. Galloway and Thomas are fine fit here also, cause they have small cap hold, and can be resigned with Bird rights (Galloway at least, for Thomas not sure if they hold it) .


3.) 09 Feb 2016 18:25:53
Knicks would definitely highly consider this, stealing Pau for the late playoff push, only question for the Knicks is that do they have enough depth at PG to afford moving Grant or Galloway, even for Pau?


4.) 09 Feb 2016 18:46:28
Yeah but say they sign Conley and resign gasol

Conley/ Afflalo/ Melo/ Gasol/ Porzingas that's pretty solid and kristaps gets a mentor.


 

 

08 Feb 2016 16:46:16
With the firing of Fisher (about time! ) it seems likely the Knicks are in the mood to make some big moves. I would hope Jackson takes advantage of whatever leverage he currently has. This season should be used to build towards the next few.

I would reach out to Rivers right now, and find out what type of package he wants for Griffin. We've all seen the rumors, and I can see Melo being open to the move (LA is perfect for him) .

Griffin + Stephenson for Melo + Thomas + Quinn.

Adds some depth at 3/ 4 and also gives them a legit offensive force that should be able to play great along side Jordan and Paul. Also, Melo clearly loves Paul so it would work.

This would sure up the front court for the knicks. Young, athletic and great to build around.

Offseason:

Hire Luke Walton.
Trade Lopez - more so to get him off the books. Especially with the boost in the cap, he is a legit starting center, and there will likely be teams willing to take him on.

If they can move Lopez, afflalo and williams opt out, AND they loosen up on the triangle, they could target conley and batum.

Ideal lineup:

Conley
Turner
Batum
Griffin
Porzingis

Obviously this would involve a lot of moving pieces, but if the knicks are able to trade melo and lopez AND relinquish afflalo and williams, they will have about 50million to work with, and it would be doable.

Hey, a guy can dream :)

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1.) 08 Feb 2016 17:01:10
better hope Porzingis gains 50 lbs in the offseason too.


2.) 08 Feb 2016 18:12:07
Why would we hope porzingis is 290? How about he gains 10-15 and stays a healthy weight?


3.) 08 Feb 2016 18:41:43
Porzingis can not guard any decent Center in the league unless he puts on 20lbs minimum. He's a 4 until that happens.

Also shocked you'd be willing to part with Melo since he is one of the best players in the league and has so many good years left. He's going to age like Dirk you said, remember?


4.) 08 Feb 2016 19:54:10
@knicksalltheway Porzingis is what 7'3? (Sorry if i'm off)

290 lbs and 7'3 to play center. yes. Imagine him being 7'3 only 250 (if he is that now) trying to guard Zaza Pachulia, Greg Monroe, Andre Drummond, Demarcus Cousins, etc.

*I'm still a Porzingis fan, just telling you reality needs to be taken into consideration if you want him to be a 5*.


5.) 08 Feb 2016 20:04:46
23.you really are sore about something, not sure what, but something. The point of melo is while he may still be good for a couple more years, he isn't in his early 20s. Again, i know these are complicated concepts, especially when they invovle your physiology analysis of the joints. But yes, if i want to build a franchise, i tend to go for the younger player. Sawwwy that I didn't accept your claim that once a player is past 30, their career is over. He is a jumpshooter, not an NFL running back. Simmer down.

CWJ, if he ends up around 250/ 260, that is what his ideal weight would be to play center. he's an agile player. A stretch 5. The weight of like 290 is desireable for players that are just trying to bang down low. that's a relatively dated principal, especially with very tall players. The added weight would reduce his career length. The knicks wanted him around 250 all along, and I think based off his style, that's probably best.

He will be fine guarding those guys. I mean, Monroe is 265. Why would he need to be 290 to guard 265? Also, if you think about it, Anthony davis is 7' and 250. No one is telling him to gain another 30-40lbs.


6.) 08 Feb 2016 20:21:48
@knicksalltheway Because he is 7'3. He can hold that extra wait.

Anthony Davis isn't a center bud (primarily. )

Wanna bring up Draymond? It's because his lower center of gravity, long arms, etc. oh, not to mention he is like 6'8.


7.) 08 Feb 2016 20:37:34
I'd say that LAC might have as much interest in this as NYK, cause they'd get player who is possibly a better fit (forget Lob City, talking about serious basketball) for them and is within CP3 window; plus they can upgrade bench a bit, even long term, but in that case I'd propose slight adjustment, I think Knicks wouldn't mind

Griffin, Pirgioni
Melo, Thomas, Galloway.


8.) 08 Feb 2016 20:59:02
Ideally, Porzingis would flourish along someone like Noah in his prime. Unfortunately, closest thing is Noel if he shows any sign of playmaking ability. Forgot somebody maybe?


9.) 08 Feb 2016 21:43:08
Not sore about anything at all. You just need to realize that if you are going to dish it out, you got to be able to take some back though. Don't be so sensitive when I give you crap about the most overrated player in the league.

When it comes to Porzingis, I'm kind of in the middle of you guys. I think he needs to put on a solid 20. Center of gravity does have a lot to do with it but not sure he needs to be 290 with his length.


10.) 08 Feb 2016 23:16:31
What are you talking about. I said put on like 15 pounds. As for Melo being the most overrated, stop getting your physiology reports from clickbait ads. We get it. You read a headline and then claimed it fact. Generate your own opinion. Starting to sound like shrink with his nonsensical economics reports. You claim everyone is done. DONE at 30. That's why you claim Melo is done. Your point. Was. Stupid. Move on.


11.) 08 Feb 2016 23:22:54
Remember that time you wrote that this is your opinion now because you read the headline on ESPN insider? An then realeast ripped you for being so fickle? That was fun.


 

 

21 Jan 2016 20:15:43
Knicks - Heat

Lopez and Aflallo for Whiteside, Anderson, Deng and Udrih.

knicksalltheway

1.) 21 Jan 2016 23:11:52
I would love to have whiteside next to porzingis, but this trade doesn't address the only hole in the roster, a solid pg. instead this trade upgrades an already solid position by creating a new hole at sg and creates a log jam at backup sf spot. How about the Knicks find a trade partner/ s for Lopez and Calderon after the season that gives the Knicks role players on the cheap and/ or 2nd round picks, then make a run at whiteside and Conley in free agency.

Conley
Aflalo
Melo
Porzingis
Whiteside
Looks like an eastern conference contender to me because

Calderon
Galloway
Melo
Porzingis
Whiteside rental

Doesn't make the Knicks any better this season.


 

 

21 Jan 2016 20:14:29
Knicks - Mavs

Lopez for Zaza and Felton.

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1.) 21 Jan 2016 21:01:41
Dallas isn't doing this.


 

 

 

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16 Jan 2016 22:58:43
Interesting stat line.

PTs: 13.5 vs 13.9
Rebounds: 8.2 vs 8.0
Blocks: 1.8 vs 2.0
Minutes: 28.8 vs 28.0

Thats anthony davis rookie stats first, versus porzingis. Just interesting to see the closeness. Thanking the basketball gods that the sixers passed on him and took oka-dont-play-defense.

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1.) 18 Jan 2016 15:06:29
That's interesting,
Here's another stat line
Harden vs Russell (harden has his second year stats so minutes match up)
Pts 12.2 vs 11.8
Rebs 3.3 vs 3.8
Assists 1.8 vs 3.4
Steals 1.1 vs 1.2
Minutes 26 vs 27

Not saying he will become harden but it's another interesting take on another rookie.


2.) 19 Jan 2016 13:54:11
those aren't hardens assists, what's the comparable shooting percentages and turnover numbers? Incomplete take on a rookie. I put the original post because all the numbers were the same. You just took 3, ignored others and altered assist? Weird.


3.) 19 Jan 2016 15:00:04
43% vs 40%
1.5 vs 2.4
Hardens assists were 2.1 not 1.8 my bad I put 1.8 for his rookie season so I messed up on that.
Why didn't you put the shooting percentage either then?
And these are hardens stats from his second season.


4.) 19 Jan 2016 19:05:16
I threw the general stats out, seeing as one is a spread offense versus primarily close to the basket. the proper stats would be eFg, which is 51 v 47.5. I just don't get why you decided to compare a rookie, with no one else on the team, to a second year role player, with 2 players ahead of him? Just a random analogy. Also, Russell is designated a PG, and Harden a SG. so yeah, still doesn't make sense to me?


5.) 19 Jan 2016 23:28:02
If Russell had no one else in front of him he'd be averaging a lot more shots and points. Ad played more center than PF I think in his rookie year also.


6.) 19 Jan 2016 23:28:53
Both are also coming off the bench and both were giving ball handling duties no matter if they play SG or pg.


7.) 20 Jan 2016 00:06:40
Nope. Rookie was all PF. Still doesn't make sense, PG on a team with no one compared to a second year SG that has 2 top 10 players on his team. Just a weird analogy that doesn't make sense.


8.) 20 Jan 2016 03:31:15
They weren't top 10 at the time were they? I mean comparing Davis to porzingas is a stretch too. Will porzingas match Davis totals next year? 18 points and 10 reb? Well see. Also considering Davis was hurt half the time.


9.) 20 Jan 2016 04:03:25
Knicks on the rumors page, what's the argument about on the whole Monroe thing? Someone call him a dinosaur?


10.) 20 Jan 2016 14:38:59
James Harden's second year, which you quoted, Westbrook averaged: 22pts, 8.2asst, 4.6rebounds, 1.9steals. Durant averaged: 27.7pts (tops in league), 6.8rebounds, 2.7 assists. I would say both were top 10 at this point.

Davis played 64 games his rookie year, 67 his second. His numbers jumped from 13.5 and 8.2 to 20.8 and 10.0.will Porzingis get that? Who knows, but it's not unreasonable to hope.

Someone said Monroe is a dinosaur, his play is worthless and he only makes teams worse. Sorry, a guy pulling 16 and 10, shooting 52% and a PER of 23 is not worthless. perhaps the Bucks need to learn how to play him, but he absolutely has significant value and there are many teams that would love him. Its just funny, because the same people that rag on Cousins for bad defense and not being that valuable, are now saying cousins has above average defense, or that andre drummond has this incredibly diverse offense, or that cousins is an incredibly efficient offensive big man. Fact is, everyone was flopping on their opinions and evaluations of players depending on who the trade involved. they hated him in one trade when it was convinent, but when it bettered their argument for him to be the best ever in the next post. they went that route. Consistency is appreciated, that's all.


11.) 20 Jan 2016 15:21:42
Monroe is not a dinosaur whatsoever. Bucks should use him better and put a defensive big behind him, but one who could not clog the paint. I know a lot of teams would love to have him.


12.) 20 Jan 2016 16:14:31
There is a reason I think Monroe and Porzingis could be a fantastic fit. the most ideal fit for Porzingis is Noel. but Monroe would be a nice improvement as well.


13.) 20 Jan 2016 19:21:02
Yeah you do need a defensive big next to Monroe if you get Noel porzingas doesn't have to put so much energy into defense as he would with Monroe.


14.) 21 Jan 2016 15:22:12
I always hate how people think having a good defensively player means you slack off. No offense. He wouldn't work any harder or easier if he had a defensive player next to him. He just enjoys playing defense and will consistently play hard.


15.) 21 Jan 2016 23:29:06
Yeah but it would be smart if you have know you have someone behind you that's good defensively you take it down a little bit, it makes you less tired which helps espically in the fourth quarter.


16.) 22 Jan 2016 21:20:28
Yeah, that's just a cliche. These guys are playing for 30 minutes give or take on a night. If they are professional athletes, they can handle the effort. Well, most can. Sullinger is just a fat ass who refuses to do cardio.


17.) 22 Jan 2016 23:18:21
Lol at sullinger. Anthony Bennett should focus on losing more weight too.


 

 

 

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14 Mar 2016 23:22:18
Not really. It's a trade post and you literally wrote the mavs get he best center in the league. So long as two unrestricted free agents sign with the Kings. THEN the mavs sign one of the best free agents to a deal for half of what every other team would offer him. Call me a troll if you want. Just saying it like it is.

Oh my friend are beyond unrealistic. Fact.

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14 Mar 2016 21:25:17
Yeah. Agreeing with Simmons. Okafor isn't worth a top 3. That's like saying no one can trade for Bennett. I mean he is a number 1.

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14 Mar 2016 21:21:50
Gordon is better than Irving eh? And olidapo is better than Westbrook. Dunk contest doesn't mean you are better.

Seriously. The sad thing is I think you are serious.

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14 Mar 2016 16:13:14
The reason I wouldn't do this from the sixers perspective is that as things are, you'd have Randle and okafor as the 4/ 5. I think we can all agree that would be the worst defensive front court in the league. And it isn't even close.

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13 Mar 2016 23:13:10
Bensimmons, uneducated comment is the lakers don't trade Randle for okafor straight up. Please tell me how you can possibly think Randle is better.

Additionally, top 5? Guaranteed? Well, seeing as he will need to compete with, in their prime, curry, Leonard, Davis, towns, Wiggins, lillard. guaranteed top 5? Remind me again, which of those will he clearly be better than? Because it needs to be at least 2 of them. And then the rest of the league.

What a homer.

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