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22 May 2017 16:21:09
CHI-PHI-NYK

CHI receive Okafor and PHI picks #39,#50

NYK receive Bulls 1st round #16, PHI pick #46

PHI receive NYK 1st round #8, Noah

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1.) 22 May 2017 16:58:22
Doubt the Bulls would give up the 16th pick for a backup center who can't rebound or block shots.


2.) 22 May 2017 18:12:27
Okafor is perfect for the Celtics.


3.) 22 May 2017 18:30:29
A backup center that is a decent scorer actually feels about right for the 16th pick. The history of the 16th pick is pretty similar: vucivic, Babbitt, speights, nick young, James Johnson.

I like the move for Chicago. I'm not a fan of Okafor as a starter, but as a backup he's solid. The trade really hinges on the knicks being that desperate to unload Noah. I don't think I would be that desperate, as it means the knicks will continue to try to improve through free agency, which hasn't been incredibly successful for them.


4.) 22 May 2017 19:01:49
Shizee. the Celtics who are in the process of being swept? Those Celtics?


5.) 22 May 2017 19:39:37
Except the Celtics won last night, so the brooms were put away. ;)


6.) 22 May 2017 20:33:21
The key to a multi-team deal is it has to work for all the teams. There's no reason for the Sixers to agree to this. Noah would be a large drag on the salary cap, while riding the bench. Take Noah out, then 3 2nd-rounders for the NYK's pick at #8? I don't think the Knicks would do that. So just take Philly out.


7.) 22 May 2017 21:56:54
It makes perfect sense for Phili. They aren't going to sign a big time free agent, why not use their cap space to get a high end asset? Noah's contract expires the same year that Simmons does, so the timeline lines up perfectly.


8.) 22 May 2017 22:07:09
I agree. But I think the Bulls won't take Noah. That's why I added the Sixers. Overall 3 2nd-rounders Okafor and the Noah might be enough.
Even if I don't think the Knicks would agree to a straight deal with the sixers.


9.) 22 May 2017 23:12:34
I like it for a sixers. even they got noah's contract.


10.) 23 May 2017 02:31:37
Noah to Philly is simply idiotic.


11.) 23 May 2017 04:27:46
Noah to philly make sense as long as the #8pick is attach. they can use him as third string center. i think theirs no A class free agent will go to sixers next season. maybe after a couple of years, that time philly is a good destination for A class free agent. you can unload noah's expiring contract using a couple of 2nd round picks or 2020 1st okc. and worst of worst a stretch provision (6m a yr) .


12.) 23 May 2017 09:28:41
this is better
CHI-PHI-NYK

CHI receive Okafor and PHI picks #39,#50

NYK receive Bulls 1st round #16, PHI pick #46

PHI receive lavine, NYK 1st round #8, minnesota 1st round #7

minnesota receive noah, lal 1st round 2018 and sac 1st round 2019.


 

 

19 May 2017 06:19:47
Phi-NYK

PHI receives Noah, Knicks 2017 1st round pick
NYK receives Okafor and best PHI 2017 2nd round pick

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1.) 19 May 2017 06:55:46
Don't think it takes a #8 pick to move Noah's contract. I don't value Okafor that highly tho, a late 1st rounder at best. Due to his skillset he doesn't project to be more than a good backup like a Kanter or Monroe type.

Knicks aren't likely attracting any top FA even if they move Noah's contract so not sure why they'd give up a valuable pick in a deep draft to do so. They should get their guard of the future (whether that's Smith, Ntilikina or Monk ) with the pick.


2.) 19 May 2017 09:06:54
I thought the same. Giving up the 8th pick to unload a contract is too much. But you need to give up a firts round pick. With Okafor and the 2nd rounder you move up some spots. Maybe the 76ers have to add a little more.


3.) 19 May 2017 15:17:03
I like this as a start to something as a Sixers fan. okafor plus other pieces/ picks for 8th pick and Noah would work for me.


4.) 19 May 2017 19:50:52
If they're giving up the #8 in order to move Noah, something they should definitely consider, they should be able to get back more than just Okafor. There's a few teams out there who've completely shot themselves in the foot when it comes to draft picks, and either have the cap space, or have good contracts that could be swapped for Noah.


5.) 19 May 2017 22:43:51
noah and Okafor = equal value.


 

 

03 Feb 2017 18:43:09
76ers trade Noel, Okafor, Kings swap rights 2017, PHI 2018 1st
Get Nets 2017 swap, Nets 2018 1st

Bulls trade Butler
Get Okafor, Bradley, Brown, PHI 2018 1st

Celtics trade Brown, Bradley, Nets 2017 swap, Nets 2018 1st
Get Noel, Butler, Kings swap rights 2017

Didn't look at money. Maybe 76ers Gibson

ps3077

1.) 03 Feb 2017 20:23:30
Looks like a complicated yet fair trade for all teams involved.


2.) 03 Feb 2017 20:23:30
Looks like a complicated yet fair trade for all teams involved.


3.) 03 Feb 2017 20:34:48
I would do this as a sixers fan. It unfortunately hits a bit of a reset in the process, but now that Embiid has proven to be a rising super star it is time to build around him with shooters.
Fultz (BYK) / McConnel / Bayless
Monk (PHI) / Stauskus / Henderson
Covington / Jackson (LAL)
Simmons / Saric / Ilyasova (resign if 6~8 mil)
Embiid / Holmes.


4.) 03 Feb 2017 21:21:08
Correct me if I'm wrong jimb3114 but the Sixers wouldn't have all those picks if this trade went down. They would either be picking at the Brooklyn spot or the Celtics spot not both. Because they are basically giving away their pick with the swap rights to the Celtics and the Brooklyn swap rights.


5.) 03 Feb 2017 21:29:43
Correct. They don't have both. But I think the trade would be fair for all teams involved.
Sixers don't have a longjam at Center anymore and have the chance for an Elite pg.
Bulls can rebuild and Butler wouldn't sign an extension next year. That's maybe the best offer they can get.
Celtics get a 2nd star and someone who can rebound. Kings swap has not much value for sixers but a lot for celtics.


6.) 04 Feb 2017 02:49:31
Okay seems fair but the swap with the Kings. is that philly pick this year as well then since it's a swap?


7.) 04 Feb 2017 12:38:22
Yea the 76ers can swap their pick with the Kings this year. But it doesn't have much value because the Kings have a better record.

After all it would mean the 76ers would only have one pick this year if the Lagers don't start winning. It would be their own or the Nets pick.
But they really need a point guard what the can get after that trade. And they still have 2 unprotected picks in 2018.


8.) 05 Feb 2017 07:39:37
Embiid is a injury prone player the dude is like oden with a 3 point shot.


9.) 06 Feb 2017 18:25:36
The sixers can't trade their 2017 pick with option to swap with kings and their 2018 pick because that's essentially trading away your own pick in consecutive years, which you cannot do. So this trade wouldn't work the way its written.


 

 

 

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21 Feb 2017 22:19:33
If Lillard is available the 76ers should try to get him.

They can offer Saric, Okafor, Bayless, Henderson, Lakers Pick, 76ers '18 1st.

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05 Feb 2017 19:38:14
Hey guys, I think the 76ers won't trade before the season is over. Actually they don't need many positions to fill. I just look at which players the team could have next season.

Pg: -/McConnell/Rande
SG: -/Stauskas
SF: Simmons/Covington
PF: Saric
C: Embiid/ Holmes

At Power forward I can imagine they resign Ersan or they trade for Porter and give up the Kings swap the 2019 Kings 1st and Noel what means they move simmons to the 4. I think the wizards accept as they would have problems to have a good bench if they give him a max deal. Additionally they would pick in the top 10 this year. 76ers use their own pick (Rang 4-8) for a SG and then they still have Okafor/ 2018 1st/ 2018st lakers/ Bayless/henderson/luwawu/korkmaz to get pick 1/2. I think they can get one of these two picks with that (maybe additionally Noel and 2019 Kings 1st). Best case they get the lakers pick this year. So they won't have to move up to far.
Could that be the best strategy?

ps3077

1.) 05 Feb 2017 22:07:17
I don't think you can trade the swap rights of a pick unless you trade the entire pick itself. So 76ers would have to give up their pick which I think is a bit rich especially when I really like Monk as a fit for them and should be available. I don't think its worth them moving up to one or two to get Ball or Fultz.

I think they'd certainly be great to have but not at the price that it would cost to get them and I think with Simmons already capable of playing the playmaker, point forward role a shooter like Monk would suffice.

I think resigning Ersan for two years maximum and drafting Monk would be a solid start. I'd then try and get a 3 and D pg/ sg to play at whatever position Monk isn't playing (not sure which position defensively would be better for him)


 

 

 

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22 May 2017 22:07:09
I agree. But I think the Bulls won't take Noah. That's why I added the Sixers. Overall 3 2nd-rounders Okafor and the Noah might be enough.
Even if I don't think the Knicks would agree to a straight deal with the sixers.

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19 May 2017 09:06:54
I thought the same. Giving up the 8th pick to unload a contract is too much. But you need to give up a firts round pick. With Okafor and the 2nd rounder you move up some spots. Maybe the 76ers have to add a little more.

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08 Feb 2017 20:57:07
Hey guys calm down. We just Diskussion rumors. We will see what they get for him pretty soon ;)

In my opinion his value is anywhere between pick 7-15. I think the Pelicans scouted all Centers and didn't find a better one like Okafor in this years draft. The first one is always going between pick 7 and 15 in the mock drafts. So I see a team giving up a pick in this range for him.

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04 Feb 2017 12:38:22
Yea the 76ers can swap their pick with the Kings this year. But it doesn't have much value because the Kings have a better record.

After all it would mean the 76ers would only have one pick this year if the Lagers don't start winning. It would be their own or the Nets pick.
But they really need a point guard what the can get after that trade. And they still have 2 unprotected picks in 2018.

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03 Feb 2017 21:29:43
Correct. They don't have both. But I think the trade would be fair for all teams involved.
Sixers don't have a longjam at Center anymore and have the chance for an Elite pg.
Bulls can rebuild and Butler wouldn't sign an extension next year. That's maybe the best offer they can get.
Celtics get a 2nd star and someone who can rebound. Kings swap has not much value for sixers but a lot for celtics.

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