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16 Jun 2017 01:19:42
3 team trade. Unlikely but sort of reasonable.


Cleveland trades: kevin love, future 1st round pick.
Cleveland recieves: paul george

Indiana trades: paul george
Indiana recieves: allen crabbe, moe harkless, future 1st from cleveland, portlands 3 2017 1st round picks.

Portland trades: allen crabbe, moe harkless, 3 2017 first round picks.
Portland recieves: kevin love.

One could argue portland could just go after pg13 alone but itd be highly unlikely that he'd resign.Also i think itd be more of a feel good story for kevin love returning home to portland.

Share your thoughts. Just an idea guys, save the hate.


1.) 16 Jun 2017 02:45:10
Portland does save 6+ million but they are still way over the threshold. Shedding Crabbe and Harkless are a good start but keep going down the line. The P Allen needs to have a fire sale, and start over. It will set him back a few years but it will pay off quicker than the direction he is going now. He's the 2nd richest owner so cut his loses and take the other road at the Y.

Try to keep Nurkic and Vonleh to build around and let everyone else go if he can. Flip those 3 #1's into 1 pick or cheap young good player. He needs a better player evaluator .

First call should be to Boston and see if they'll trade IT for Lillard.

2.) 16 Jun 2017 04:09:49
No hate here, but knowledgeable and realistic. Even though Crabbe's contract is relatively poor value, he still has upside. Harkless at 24 years old and with a moderate salary has very solid value. Those two alone are worth Kevin Love or Cleveland fans wouldn't be in such a hurry to dump him. But the key here is Portland has no interest in Kevin Love.

3.) 16 Jun 2017 05:23:50
Portland's salary is $141,613,267. Even with team options, non guaranteed contracts they are still over the threshold for the next 3 years. Your absolutely right, they have no interest in Love. They need to trade 3 yr contracts and a 1st rd. pick into 1 yr contracts. To include Lillard and McCollum.

4.) 16 Jun 2017 07:53:44
Although Portland could use a pf upgrade they cannot afford Love and I think he'd be an awful fit since he'd once again be the #3 offensive option like he was in Cleveland. Only way they should potentially add him is if McCollum was included or moved for cheaper players in another deal. Portland would be better off just trying to clear cap space with their picks. I don't think Portland should completely blow things up (keep core of Lillard, McCollum and Nurkic) since they are relatively young and a solid team that should get better.

billij I don't see how Lillard for IT would help Portland at all. Lillard is arguably as good as IT, slightly younger and signed long term. IT would be cheaper for one year but after his UFA next summer he'd likely be make much more than Lillard and on a longer deal that would go deeper into his 30s.

5.) 16 Jun 2017 16:47:18
$$ (flexibility) . IT for Lillard just to get money off the books, then let IT walk . That's how money gets off books. Same with McCollum. Blazers are in cap trouble for 3 more years and I just don't think they can go anywhere in the playoffs the way they are now,41-41 with a 140 million salary is a BIG RED FLAG! so start over with Nurkic and Vonleh. and build through the draft and develop these picks. That cap problem is not going away unless you dump salary, plain and simple, black and white.

This CBA put teams in financial problems because they had money to spend and some teams spent it poorly. Like Portland.

Salary dump is best route for Portland for flexibility. They don't get a MLE or bi-annual exception to sign a FA. But do get a 5.3 Taxpayers MLE to sign a FA or 2nd rd. draft picks up to 3 yrs.

Sign minimum salary contracts. Fans will hate this but team has very little choices.

6.) 16 Jun 2017 23:53:38

You are insane if you think Portland is going to trade either Lillard or McCollum. I agree that they have cap issue, but offloading those two in a dump is a good way to get fired as a GM.

7.) 17 Jun 2017 18:38:27

I'm glad you're not Portland's GM.

No way on Earth do they consider blowing it up by trading Lillard or McCollum just to dump salary.

They need cap relief, true, but they can get that by shedding Leonard, Turner, and Crabbe plus a couple 1st rounders.



31 May 2017 14:46:09
76ers/lakers trade.

Lakers trade: d'angelo russell, timofey mozgov.

Lakers recieve: justin anderson, tj McConnell, jahlil okafor and their 2018 1sr round pick.

76ers trade: justin anderson, tj McConnell, jahlil okafor and their 2018 1sr round pick.

76ers recieve: d'angelo russell, timofey mozgov.

Sixers then sign ersan ilyasova or nikola mirotic to come in and be there backup stretch four behind saric. They also sign jj reddick and draft frank mason jr in the wnd round along with some more shooters.


1.) 31 May 2017 14:52:05
Lakers recieve their own 2018 1st rnd pick back.

2.) 31 May 2017 15:06:40
Everyone knows that the lakers want pg next year but with the contracts of deng and mozgov pg won't come because they can't sign other good players. Every gm who doesn't want way! more for taking this contracts is stupid.
Can't imagine Colangelo accepting this.

3.) 31 May 2017 15:26:53
Sixers are keeping Anderson.

4.) 31 May 2017 15:39:21
Ps3077 your missing the point of the trade. The lakers do this in order to dump mozgovs contract in order to make room ro sign pg and other free agents while still replacing mozgov with a low post scoring big in okafor who magic johnson has said he loves. And also avoiding a backcourt logjam when the draft lonzo ball. For the sixers its all about adding russell to their core . a guard who can play off ball and shoot the lights out. He and simmons have played together before so the chemistry is there already there. That pick the lakers would be getting back would be very attractive whether theyd use it or trade it. It's a win-win for both teams.

5.) 31 May 2017 15:47:35
@Trust the process: if the sixers add josh jackson in the draft, there would be no need for jistin anderson as josh is a much better version of him and has a higher ceiling.

6.) 31 May 2017 16:23:04
It seems like an overpay by the 76ers. Okafor and the 2018 pick plus taking on Mozgov seems like enough.

7.) 31 May 2017 16:29:24
I totally understand that point. What I tried to point out was the tactical mistake to express the interest from pg and the lakers to unite.
That gives teams the chance to demand much more for the contracts of mozgov and deng.
Sixers made the same mistake with their longjam at center. And we saw the result in the deal with Noel.

8.) 31 May 2017 16:40:56
@sixersjunkie I think you are missing what PS3077 is trying to say. he was saying that the Sixers would be stupid to give up such a valuable pick in a deal that's just a salary dump for the Lakers. He was saying that the Sixers wouldn't need to add the pick since every GM knows that Magic will be trying to dump salary and he's going to have to take a deal that doesn't help his team to just get rid of Deng's and Mosgov's bad contracts.



20 May 2017 06:09:24
Sooooooo, i have a theory!

Markelle fultz the consensus #1 pick in this years draft is projected to go to the celtics. Danny ainge himself has said he doesn't see a 19 year old coming and and leading a team to a championship and if they take fultz i have every reason to believe they'll trade him for an established star. Now any team trading with the celtics say the bulls or pacers would be trading for the most assets they can get to jumpstart they're rebuild. So instead of trading for that pick and say abery bradley or marcus smart/ terry rozier? Why not trade for multiple pick which i don't think the celtics would be willing to give unless they traded that number one pick for additional picks to a team with an abundance of picks liks say ehhhh the SIXERS!!! There isn't a team in the nba who that markelle would fit i'm with like the sixers. With them tanking for so long and have already believe to have their franchise cornerstones in embiid and simmons i don't think trading say this years 3rd pick the lakers 2018 pick and a protected top 5 2019 pick along with jahlil okafor would hurt their future and i don't see the celtics saying no. They can aquire the star they desire like a jimmy butler without giving up some of their core players and still have a strong possibility of adding a guy like gordon hayward though free agency. I really only see them having to give up a few picks and say jaylen brown and marcus smart for jimmy butler, add hayward in free agency and those picks/players they gave up mean nothing.

Again just a theory but i would love to see fultz on the sixers. As for the celtics i don't believe they'll be the same team next year and i don't think fultz is going to be apart of that franchise, i think its a smart move to move that pick for more picks and flip those exact picks and jaylen brown/marcus smart or terry rozier for butler. You get your young center in okafor through that philly trade. Aquire jimmy buckets, sign hayward and i think they could actually challenge the cavs.

Share your thoughts.


1.) 20 May 2017 10:34:45
Celtics very well may trade Fultz, whether or not they include 76ers in the deal depends heavily on the team involved and their preferences/ existing roster. I think its definitely a possibility especially with a lot of teams high on Jackson who likely will be there at #3. Lakers pick is a bit of a gamble with the George rumors tho and 76ers project to be much improved by 2019 so its questionable how much value there really is there.

Celtics as is don't have the cap space to sign a guy like Hayward

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and will likely need to move a guy like Bradley to do so as well as make a few smaller moves. For this reason its highly unlikely Celtics add both Hayward and Butler (its likely an either or) especially when what they really need is an upgrade at center/ pf position with a better rebounder. I think ideal situation for Celtics would be to keep Fultz, move Bradley for a big man (has to be relatively low salary which makes it tough) to clear cap space to sign Hayward and some smaller moves to bolster their bench.

Trading for Butler however since he'd make only 17.5 mill compared to Hayward who would start at 30.6 mill would give Celtics more cap flexibility where they could add a better more established big man. I think investigating what Horford's value is wouldn't be a bad idea either (I think they should keep IT longterm) since although skilled on both ends he is on wrong side of 30, due a lot of money, a poor rebounder for his position and not the biggest body down low (Lebron is basically his size and much more athletic which is why he is killing them) .

2.) 20 May 2017 12:50:58
I see what you're saying but of the moves you suggested gets them past the cavs. Mark my words danny ainge is a greedy guy. The celtics are going to add hayward and butler. As far as the center upgrade. The can aquire robin lopez in that jimmy butler trade. Even if the can't keep guys like Bradley or crowder they're going to do what they need to do to get past the cavs. Keeping fultz does not do that.

3.) 20 May 2017 16:16:23
DA is not a greedy guy, he's a smart guy. Just because Brooklyn got the short end of the deal doesn't mean Danny was greedy, it meant that King and Prokhorov were the not so smart guys. This is a business and at the time the nets thought they had won the lottery, but in reality Boston won the lottery.

A trade of Horford would be a dumb idea, he's not the problem. That would only hinder the process in which they are on. Although it may seem like Hayward has the lead up to this point of becoming a Celtic I wouldn't look at it that way.

In what Jaws said, I mentioned that last week or the week before that trading for Butler made the most sense because of his 17.5 salary for 2 years gives them the flexibility to add another player of size that will shut down the lane. And R Lopez could be somewhat of that presence if they wanted to go that way. But Lopez is not a dominant rebounder, nor is he one for steals.

Trading picks with Orlando makes some sense as they could get the #6 pick in return and also get Vucevic, as it was known midway through the season he could be had. Use that #6pick, 18 Boston 1st pick along with Crowder to acquire Butler.

TRADE IT while his value is high. IT for Bledsoe would be my choice.

Bledsoe/ Rozier
Bledsoe/ Rozier/ Smart?

4.) 20 May 2017 16:59:42
Bledsoe/ Rozier
Bledsoe/ Rozier/ Smart?



17 May 2017 13:28:31
76ers/lakers trade

Lakers trade: timofey mozgov, d'angelo russell

Lakers receive: tj mcconnell, jahlil okafor. 2017 2nd round pick

76ers trade: jahlil okafor, tj mcconnell 2017 2nd round pick

76ers recieve: timofey mozgov, d'angelo russell.

This trade fills needs for both teams. I see the lakers taking lonzo ball with the second pick, creating a logjam in the backcourt, they could send Clarkson instead but i see clarkson as more of a fit alongside ball. They rid themselves of mozgovs contract and bring in a young scoring capable bigman and a decent backup point guard in mcconnell. For Philly they finally rid themselves of okafor who isn't a bad player just on the wrong team and while he may be a defensive liabilty at times he fits much better on the lakers as a traditional dominant low post scoring big. And while mozgov will be a decent backup center for embiid and holmes the real prize is russell. He will fit well next to simmons in the backcourt, and while coach brown has repeatedly said that the team plans on playing simmons at point russell is great insurance is that doesn't work and they decide that simmons is better off as a point forward.either way russells sweet jumper and shot creating ability is ideal next to simmons. Plug in josh jackson from kansas to that young and you have a potential devastating lineup in the making, not even touching on what the 76ers could add in free agency this summer or the coming years. Same goes for the lakers, pg13 is a lock to join them whether it be through trade this summer or by free agency next summer, and getting rid of one pf mozgov or dengs contracts pretty much assures that super max contract he'll demand and theyd still have some room to sign some serviceable bench and role players to fill needs.

Share your thoughts.

GO SIXERS!!!!!!!!!


1.) 17 May 2017 16:30:37
A deal like this is the only way I see them being able to dump mosgov or deng.

2.) 17 May 2017 17:18:18
There are other teams who are willing to take salary dumps. Lakers should pass on that.

#3 pick and Okafor.

3.) 17 May 2017 22:23:52
If I'm Lakers I would never do this. Although Russell isn't quite worth the #3 pick he is worth more than just someone to help stomach Mozgovs contract and Okafor and McConnel who both will likely be solid pros but look destined to thrive more in a backup role.



07 May 2017 14:00:04
Sixers/warriors/nets trade

Sixers trade:jahlil okafor, own 2017 1st round pick.
Sixers receive: klay thompson.

Warriors trade: klay thompson
Warriors receive: brook lopez, sean Kilpatrick.

Nets trade:Brook lopez, sean Kilpatrick.
Nets receive: jahlil okafor, 76ers 2017 pick.


1.) 07 May 2017 14:37:09
Golden State is not going to give up Thompson for a backup center and a draft pick.

2.) 07 May 2017 15:39:54
In what world is brook lopez a backup center? Also the trade eases their cap room to sign steph to a max and add depth o their bench which they badly need regardless of how well they're playing this season. Klay has his ring why not raise his stardom?

3.) 07 May 2017 16:21:19
lopez is a starting center, but you are 100% wrong on everything else.

Lopez makes $5M more than Thompson, how is that helping to ease cap space? Once they re-sign Curry, they're won't be enough cap space to add to the bench, and based on the way they play basketball, Klay is a much better fit than Lopez anyways.

4.) 07 May 2017 18:14:38
Lopez is not a backup by no means. 20/ 5/ 2 w/ 1.7 blk. is definitely not backup stats.

More like Nets are not going to give up Lopez for a backup ctr.
Although they would love to have that pick.

5.) 07 May 2017 19:55:25
The Warriors wouldn't move Klay for Lopez. There is no salary cap relief in this for them and is Lopez even a good fit for them? If he were an athletic big that could run the floor, it would make more sense, but he would slow dowm their offense. Not to mention they could get way more than Lopez for him.

6.) 07 May 2017 21:06:36
He was meaning the sixers don't get Thompson for okafor and a pick. Okafor is a back up center.




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09 Aug 2016 14:12:11
I need some logical trade targets for the sixers to clear up their frontcourt, any ideas?
Let's keep it realistic!


1.) 09 Aug 2016 14:57:55
Knight for Noel. Len could get too expensive for the Suns in FA next year and he would be a nice fit next to Chriss or Bender,

2.) 09 Aug 2016 15:14:37
Honestly. I still like Phoenix as a partner. Bledsoe and knight and booker and warren all could be legit starters for them. Goodwin was a high prospect for them as well. It would make sense for them to clear their log jam for a center from the Sixers log Jam

Knight for Noel makes sense

Bledsoe for Oakfor makes sense.

3.) 10 Aug 2016 13:23:21
The issue with the Suns is these trades made sense before they drafted 2 big men with the top 8 picks. They need to see how they develop before adding even more big men.

4.) 11 Aug 2016 20:23:45

Let's be honest here. Bender is a completely project player. From what I've seen he barely looks like he can make it in the NBA. And Chriss is considered the biggest riser in the draft class. I think he's a work in progress at best. Either way they both play pf not center so Noel or Oakfor could slide right in.

5.) 14 Aug 2016 13:40:32
Both play pf. But I fail to see your point. Bender belongs in the nba. He's 18 and just started playing American ball. Calm down. Chriss is a riser, but so what? They are a rebuilding team. Were you expecting all stars in the first year or else trades?

Don't the Suns love Len? Aren't they on the hook for a few years with chandler? Where do they just "slide in"?

The Suns don't need this. They would be trading their starting pg for a back up big man. Awesome.




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16 Jun 2017 16:03:51
I kind of believe the jackson to boston rumors. Celtics need a backup plan if hayward doesn't sign with them. Jackson fits better with the celtics with the way their roster is constructed. Adding fultz would only cause a logjam forcing them to breakup their core (crowder or bradley) . With the celtics in win now mode i think adding an athletic wing would be the safer route, and jackson isn't that much of a reach at #1. And if this is the way itd play our as a sixers fan i wouldn't mind trading up and taking on mozgovs or dengs contract to take fultz. There isn't a prospect in this draft class who fits as well as he does, imo it'd be well worth it. Also mozgovs and dengs cobtract would be up by the time simmons and saric rookie contracts would be coming to an end. No harm no foul.




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31 May 2017 15:47:35
@Trust the process: if the sixers add josh jackson in the draft, there would be no need for jistin anderson as josh is a much better version of him and has a higher ceiling.




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31 May 2017 15:39:21
Ps3077 your missing the point of the trade. The lakers do this in order to dump mozgovs contract in order to make room ro sign pg and other free agents while still replacing mozgov with a low post scoring big in okafor who magic johnson has said he loves. And also avoiding a backcourt logjam when the draft lonzo ball. For the sixers its all about adding russell to their core . a guard who can play off ball and shoot the lights out. He and simmons have played together before so the chemistry is there already there. That pick the lakers would be getting back would be very attractive whether theyd use it or trade it. It's a win-win for both teams.




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31 May 2017 14:52:05
Lakers recieve their own 2018 1st rnd pick back.




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20 May 2017 16:13:37
Take out lowry and replace him with reddick and its solid. Just because lowry is from philly doesn't make him a fit. with the addition of fultz and simmons already in place there's no need for lowry and the massive contract he'll demand.





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