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06 Jan 2022 13:46:38
Clippers-Kings Trade

With Davion Mitchell and Tyrese Haliburton already on the roster, it feels like Fox doesn't fit the timeline for the Kings. His contract puts him as a number one when he should be a number three or four.

I've heard a lot of Westbrook to the Clippers talk but I think at this point he is only a floor raiser to a rebuilding team. Any contending team he goes to, I think he'll be destructive and an odd fit. That's why the Clippers trade makes no sense. Would much rather have Reggie Jackson than Westbrook if I'm George or Leonard.

However, this could make sense.

Clippers get: De'Aaron Fox

Kings get: Serge Ibaka + Eric Bledsoe + 2028 1st round pick via LAC

Clippers.

PG: Fox-Jackson
SG: George-Kennard
SF: Leonard-Mann
PF: Morris-Batum
C: Zubac-Hartenstein

I think this trade not only helps LA in the regular season right now as they are ravaged by injuries right now, but give George and, eventually, Leonard, a guy that can facilitate the offense and set up scoring situations for them. Also would give the team more lineup flexbility as they could move Jackson or Morris to the bench. The Clips would definitely have to sign a big man as Hartenstein is the only other big man behind Zubac. Say if like Tristan Thompson or Derrick Favors got bought out. By the way, on a side note, I haven't watched a ton of Clippers basketball this season because of their injuries but Hartenstein is 7th in the NBA for Center PER, so the Clips definitely have a two viable big men. In all, I think Fox gives the Clippers another scoring option. It allows Fox to slide into a role that suits him much better - a la Wiggins on Golden State.

Kings.

Ok. The Kings. Having Fox as "The Guy". Is a recipe for "my ceiling is a 5th seed. " Rignt now, Fox has the 23rd highest contract in the league. That is ahead of Jayson Tatum and Donovan Mitchell. I like Fox as a player but he isn't better than those guys. Getting Fox off the books will help the Kings reset. That 2028 Clippers 1st could be huge get for Sacramento as George, Leonard and Fox could all be off the team or even retired. In other words, the Clippers would yet again suck.

PG: Mitchell-Bledsoe
SG: Haliburton-Hield
SF: Barnes-Harkless
PF: Bagley
C: Holmes-Len

Again unloading Fox allows Mitchell and Haliburton to really extend themselves as playmakers. On another note, if I were Sacramento, I'm trading everyone. Barnes, Bagley and Hield. Gone. Only guys I want are Mitchell, Haliburton, and, the I wanted "the guy I wanted the Knicks to sign instead of Nerlens Noel" Richaun Holmes. But back to reality, the Kings get Ibaka and Bledsoe. Ibaka could be flipped this year as he is an expiring. Bledsoe next year as he is an expiring next year. They won't get anything big but it'll just be a nice little something. The prize of the ball is the 2028 pick. Unprotected and the Clippers will most certainly be rebuilding.

Expectations.

Ok so if you're still reading, one, thank you. Two, we're almost done. I think this trade could happen but really depends on if the Clippers really think Fox could be a third fiddle to a championship team. I think Sacramento takes this deal no problem, but LA really has to like Fox's star. The Clippers' biggest priority is getting Leonard and George healthy, not finding a better PG, but if Leonard and George can show what they did in last year's playoffs, I think the addition of Fox could put them behind the Suns and Golden State as a favorite to come out of the West. And in this league, just having a shot is worth it.

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1.) 06 Jan 2022 14:21:42
Yeah sure let’s hang King’s hat on one draft pick 6 years from now.


2.) 06 Jan 2022 15:28:02
How does it makes sense for the Kings? Thank you for the good laugh.


3.) 06 Jan 2022 16:28:16
I guess it makes sense for the Kings in that Fox is not fit for his contract. He is not a bad contract but he isn't a good one either. For a guy who is paid more than Tatum and Mitchell, I don't think he beat those guys in a series. Kings get a good pick and get off a contract that is average in my eyes. Would rather tear it down to the studs than be mediocre and stuck in the middle.


4.) 06 Jan 2022 17:45:03
Kings can definitely get more.


5.) 06 Jan 2022 18:02:12
The problem with comparing salaries is the entire factor of max deals. Tatum and Mitchell are underpaid for what they do, Fox isn’t overpaid. (Also, he’s not paid more than those guys. They all got the same contracts) .


6.) 06 Jan 2022 20:35:18
“Get a good pick” so you are assuming Clipper won’t reload on other major FAs when Paul, Leonard left and sat ideal let the team bottom out? Yeah right that sound like Ballmer, especially after they move into an brand new 1.2 billion arena in 3 years.


 

 

10 Mar 2021 15:28:05
Mavs - Raptors

Kyle Lowry has been rumored to go to the Clippers, Heat, Sixers and Nuggets, but I think a darkhorse team is the Mavs.

I think Lowry with Doncic and Porzingis would make the Mavs playoff ready.

Raps get: James Johnson, Josh Richardson, Josh Green and a 2024 1st rounder.

Mavs get: Kyle Lowry

I don't know if this is the strongest offer the Raps can get for Lowry (I think the Sixers and Nuggets can make similar offers) . But I think this makes sense for both teams.

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1.) 10 Mar 2021 16:29:28
Can't trade 2024 1st.
I think Nuggets is the only good option. Sixers apparently don't want to give harris. Miami has Achiuwa, but no picks.


2.) 10 Mar 2021 16:57:15
ringring not happening can't trade 2024 pick.


3.) 10 Mar 2021 17:28:05
actually think the trade works without Dallas giving up a first because of Green and Richardson.


4.) 10 Mar 2021 18:10:48
they have 11 wings. they need a center.


5.) 11 Mar 2021 00:04:12
I'm calling unbelievable because I really don't think the Raptors will trade Lowry anywhere if he doesn't want to go there. I see no reason why he'd want to go to Dallas. Chance ro win would be just as good this year if he stays in Tampa, and Dallas wouldn't be a natural option for him in the summer.


 

 

10 Mar 2021 15:21:10
Pelicans - Nuggets

I feel like I have hearing a lot of Kyle Lowry to Denver talk and while I think he would be a perfect fit with Jokic and Murray, the Nuggets could be outbid by the Sixers, Heat, Clippers or, my sleeper team, the Mavericks.

It is obvious that the Nuggets have to make a move and I feel like one trade that would make sense is:

Nuggets trade: Will Barton + 2021 1st round pick (maybe another 1st if you're high on Lonzo)

Pelicans trade: Lonzo Ball

With Lonzo shooting a career high from the the 3 pt. line (38%) and entering restricted free agency this offseason, he is in line for a solid payday. With Brandon Ingram already at a max and Zion eventually getting a max, do the Pelicans want to give Lonzo a big contract. If so, that is their team, and I don't think the core of Ball - Ingram - Williamson is something that would maximize Zion's talent.

Instead, I think trading Lonzo would give the Pelicans even more draft picks and ammo to acquire an already established star. It would also let the Pelicans avoid making the hard decision on whether to match a 4 year $110 million offer sheet Lonzo could receive this offseason.

For the Nuggets, I think Lonzo, Murray and Jokic would create an even more unstoppable offense. Also, this trade does not make the Nuggets go all-in. They would still have guys like RJ Hampton, Bol Bol and Gary Harris' contract as assets to flip for another contributor.

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1.) 11 Mar 2021 00:30:27
Pels are pitch heavy. A late first is little help.


 

 

29 Aug 2019 20:15:16
Devin Booker trade (s) :

Pelicans trade: Nickeil Alexander-Walker, Derrick Favors, Brandon Ingram, and 2 future 1st Round Picks

Suns trade: Devin Booker

Pelicans Lineup:

PG: Lonzo Ball
SG: Jrue Holiday
SF: Devin Booker
PF: Zion Williamson
C: Jaxson Hayes

Bench:

Josh Hart
JJ Redick
Jahlil Okafor
Darius Miller
Frank Jackson
E’Twaun Moore

Hawks trade: Bruno Fernando, Cam Reddish, Alex Len, and a 2020 1st Round Pick

Suns trade: Devin Booker

Hawks Lineup:

PG: Trae Young
SG: Devin Booker
SF: De’Andre Hunter
PF: John Collins
C: Some free agent or draft pick or Damian Jones

Bench:
Kevin Huerter
DeAndre Bembry
Jabari Parker

Also, wrote an article about it - Free Devin Booker.


Thoughts?

tubbalicous

1.) 29 Aug 2019 20:28:49
Big no on hawks trade.


2.) 30 Aug 2019 01:27:29
Big no on both trades.


3.) 30 Aug 2019 03:09:17
Without question a Phoenix fan. Maybe a relative of Booker. No way for either trade.


4.) 30 Aug 2019 11:58:12
If you want an idea what kind of trade package Booker can get, look at what the Kings got for Boogie Cousins. 1 young lottry talent, 1 lottery pick and expiring salary filler. So the Hawks deal is about right, but I think they eould rather go with Reddish and Huerter than Booker.


5.) 30 Aug 2019 13:35:59
Suns will only trade their self-anointed "face of the franchise" in one of those deals that overwhelms them. These deals don't approach that level so, PHX wouldn't have any interest. Oh and Alex Len back to a place he loathes and where he underachieved for 4 years? Don't think so.


6.) 30 Aug 2019 15:06:28
Booker is in a weird place where he and Phoenix think he's got a future as a superstar, but I'm not sure anyone outside of Arizona thinks so. I think Booker is a lot closer to CJ McCollum than a superstar.

He'll have to accept a role as a second star if he ever wants to win, and if Phoenix wants to move him will have to accept that's his value.


7.) 30 Aug 2019 22:35:01
Booker=Utah's version of Gordon Hayward.


8.) 31 Aug 2019 13:49:53
Bmiller66,that is true about Booker. He's good not great (like McCallum) and his value to the Suns is nearly as much a management/ marketing one as it is an on court one and, that is unfortunate. He got his huge contract and is placated by these latest round of staff changes the Suns have made but unless they get a lot better this coming year (and his play is a big part of that), he will start making serious noise about getting moved. Still, the way PHX views Booker, they would resist any overtures to move him unless it was for a package well above what the market may say he is worth.


9.) 31 Aug 2019 18:33:23
Plus, didn't Phoenix just get approved gor a new stadium? They are going to need talent to move i to that new arena.


10.) 01 Sep 2019 13:42:38
Almost. Not a new arena, mostly public money to refurb the existing place which, of course, sits really well with the voters of PHX. One of the many reasons why the Suns have this deluded idea of "face of the franchise" stuff, a likable guy who they can build up to the fan base who is a "pillar in the community".


 

 

03 Jul 2019 19:01:14
I think Portland needs one more piece after acquiring Whiteside.

I think they should look to acquire Kevin Love

If Whiteside is working out great or Nurkic is struggling to find his footing since coming back from injury.

POR trades:

Kent Bazemore
Jusuf Nurkic
A 1st round pick (or 2)

for Kevin Love

OR

If Whiteside isn't playing well or Nurkic is playing really well.

POR trades:

Hassan Whiteside
2 1st round picks

for Kevin Love


Once they get Love, Portland's lineup would be either:

PG: Lillard - Simons
SG: McCollum - Hood - Trent Jr.
SF: Bazemore - Hezonja - Little
PF: Love - Labissiere
C: Whiteside - Z. Collins

or

PG: Lillard - Simons
SG: McCollum - Hezonja
SF: Hood - Little
PF: Love - Labissiere
C: Nurkic - Z. Collins

I don't know if this would put the Blazers in the "Title contender" category because I think they need another wing (like Robert Covington would be a perfect fit) but I think this lineup would put the Blazers a hell of a lot closer to that category.

Thoughts?

tubbalicous

1.) 03 Jul 2019 19:01:45
This would definitely happen around the trade deadline.


2.) 03 Jul 2019 21:13:25
It would have to be the second one to me. Nurkic is head and shoulders better than Whiteside, and he's locked in on a cheap deal. I wouldn't give him up for Love, and I wouldn't hitch my wagon to a guy like Whiteside.


 

 

 

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23 Apr 2022 19:05:26
No way Denver trades Joker lmao.

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06 Jan 2022 16:28:16
I guess it makes sense for the Kings in that Fox is not fit for his contract. He is not a bad contract but he isn't a good one either. For a guy who is paid more than Tatum and Mitchell, I don't think he beat those guys in a series. Kings get a good pick and get off a contract that is average in my eyes. Would rather tear it down to the studs than be mediocre and stuck in the middle.

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11 Mar 2021 20:37:49
I don't get this at all. Why would the Knicks trade their future star for a guy who is a borderline all-star.

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11 Mar 2021 20:35:48
Like this trade. Bet this would happen after Rosas got fired because I don't think you can trade KAT while keeping Russell.

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10 Mar 2021 17:52:15
Richaun Holmes is awesome though. I would keep him if I were the Kings. Would rather trade Bagley and/ or Hield.

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