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17 May 2017 21:40:58
Boston Celtics Offseason:

1) Draft Fultz
2) Sign Hayward
3) Trade for Andre Drummond

1 & 2 are very possible options that can easily happen... 3 is where it gets interesting but it's known that Drummond can be obtained via trade. Detroit is looking to restart and get a new identity. SO:
Drummond for Crowder, Rozier, and picks if needed (future 1sts Clippers, Grizzlies or own pick).

Depth Chart:
IT/Fultz
AB/Smart
Hayward/Brown
Horford/Olynyk (if can go into hard cap)
Drummond/FA (vet min)

17 May 2017 22:25:40
Drummond is not a FA, he's signed for another 3years.

Taking Fultz will cost money being the #1 pick. So I see that pick getting moved to save money and to get what they need. A BIG.

So unless Crowder will play the 2 spot he will be moved if they do sign Hayward and if they keep Crowder then AB will be traded.

17 May 2017 23:44:41
Why would Detroit give up Drummond for that return. I think Detroit would want at least the 2018 Brooklyn pick involved (ideally the 2017 #1 Brooklyn pick) . Maybe they could get away with a deal centered around Jaylen Brown if they added enough around him.

Crowder, Rozier and those non-Nets picks won't cut it.

Signing Hayward isn't as straight forward as it seems since Celtics won't have the 30.6 mill max he'll demand. Ignoring all FA cap holds (Green, Jerekbo, Olynk, Johnson and Young), their draft picks (#1, Yabusele and Zizic) and waiving Jackson, Mickey and Zeller they'd have 36 mill. That drops to 29 mill with cap hold for #1 pick. Therefore if Celtics wanted Hayward and to keep some guys on their bench they'd basically need to trade AD (which is smart since he, IT and Smart are all due extensions next offseason) .

18 May 2017 03:09:05
Zelts. My bad, I didn't see the slash after Drummonds name. just saw the FA vet min. Sorry!

But I'm all for Drummond to Boston. They could sure use him now, down by 24 in the 3rd.

08 May 2017 08:32:38
Clippers: 1rnd pick Nets 17+ J Noah+ C Zeller+ return 1rnd pick clippers 19
trade: CP3+ Griffin+ D Jordan

NY: C Paul+ B Griffin+ 1rnd pick Memphis 19
trade: Porzingis+ J Noah

Boston: Porzingis+ D Jordan
trade: C Zeller+ 1rnd pick Nets 17+ 1rnd pick Clippers 19+ 1rnd pick Memphis 19

08 May 2017 12:29:36
So who comes from the bench in the Celtics frontcourt of Horford, Porzingis and Jordan? Also C Zeller plays for Hornets.

08 May 2017 12:52:29
They can all play 32 minutes
Or Boston can trade the 2018 Nets pick and Horford for a Shooting Guard.

*T Zeller.

08 May 2017 13:11:22
I hate this for the Clippers. They get exactly one rebuilding piece, and two bad contracts.

08 May 2017 14:14:55
The first pick overall (normally) is not just one rebuilding piece, but maybe they should also get the Memphis pick.

I've always liked this Clippers team, but they aren't even close to the finals, they're over the cap and they can't trade draft picks (2017 Toronto, 2019, Boston)
So they have to do something.

08 May 2017 16:46:55
If the Clippers can resign Blake and Paul, this is a horrible package for them. Paul or Griffin signed long term alone is probably worth that and Jordan isn't far behind.

I agree that Porzingis has a ton of value, but two allstars, a 1st, and getting rid of Noah's contract? Outside of maybe Lebron, Leonard, Durant, Harden, and Westbrook any one has that kind of value.

If the Clippers were willing to sell that low, Boston would just cut New York out of the deal and figure out a way to make the numbers work to where they can get Paul and Griffin. If you add those three along with players like Bradley, Crowder, and Thomas you could challenge the Cavs and Warriors.

04 May 2017 22:06:59
Just want to see what you guys think about this trade.

BOS- Porzingis

NYK- 2017 Nets Pick (Guaranteed Top Four, Best Odds for #1), Terry Rozier, MEM 2019 First Round, LAC 2019 First Round, Minnesota Second Round Pick 2017 (37th)

04 May 2017 22:21:09
Way too much. Nets pick, Rozier and Minnesota pick should be enough. IMO both LAC and Memphis could easily be lottery picks because bith teams are stuck where they are and rebuilding is the most logical choice.

04 May 2017 22:38:30
I'd say add Avery Bradley to then Knicks or to a 3rd team then Boston can sign Hayward.

04 May 2017 23:06:35
As a Knicks fan, I could live with this. I don't know that Phil would do it, but I wouldn't throw my controller through my TV if this was announced on Sports Center.

05 May 2017 15:52:02
If they're even thinking about moving Porzingis, DA should be all over it this year. He would be the perfect compliment to Horford and would fit Stevens' system to a T. I think Rozier has been opening some eyes the last couple of games with Washington, but I don't know if he'd be the player in the middle of the trade. The obvious big get is the Nets pick (although I'd try to make it the 2018 pick first, get denied, then lower the rest of the cost to replace it with the 2017), but I think the player coming back would be a 2 or 3. I think I might be willing to put Crowder in the trade instead.

Crowder, both the nets and Celtics 2018 as well as two 2019 picks for Porzingis. Then, if they balk at that, I replace the '18 Nets pick with the '17, and I take both '19s off the table, knowing I might have to put one of them back into the deal. You then sign Hayward.

As the Celtics, you wind up with:

Thomas/ Smart/ Jackson
Bradley/ Rozier
Hayward/ Brown
Porzingis/ Yabusele/ Mickey
Horford/ Zizic

You also have 3 second round picks in this draft to either stash or move.

The Knicks would wind up getting their PG in the top 4. Let's say they wind up picking 1st and get Fultz, and that they don't get any help from the lotto on their own pick.

I then make a move with the Nets since you're flush with picks. The Nets are going absolutely nowhere, and have no way to get better. I trade the #7, two more 1st rounders and Noah for Lopez.

They'd shake out with:

Fultz/ 2nd Rounder/ Free Agent
Lee/ Free gent
Thomas/ Kuzminskas/ Ndour
Melo/ Plumlee
Lopez/ Hernangomez/ O'Quinn

That's a team that should be able to win a bit, gets a top caliber talent in Fultz, and brings in a shorter, albeit slightly more expensive contract at Center, except Lopez is actually good. It also moves Melo over to the 4 which is where he really should be playing. They still only have one top young building block, but it makes them much better in the meantime, and it gives them more flexibility going forward.

25 Apr 2017 18:15:38
Portland - Indiana - Boston - Philadelphia

Portland trades: CJ McCollum, Meyers Leonard, 2017 Memphis Pick
Portland Receives: 2017 Brooklyn 1st, Jahlil Okafor, Gerald Henderson (waive), tyler Zeller (waive)
Beyond trade: Waive Ezeli, draft Markelle Fultz, draft Jordan Bell, trade Cleveland pick for more salary cap relief

Indiana Trades: Paul George, 2017 own pick
Indiana receives: CJ McCollum, Philadelphia 2017 pick
Beyond Trade: Draft josh Jackson or jayson Tatum

Boston Trades: Avery Bradley, Tyler Zeller, Demetrius Jackson, 2017 Brooklyn 1st
Boston Receives: Paul George

Philadelphia Trades: Jahlil Okafor, Gerald Henderson, 2017 own 1st
Philadelphia Receives: Avery Bradley, Demetrius Jackson, 2017 Ind 1st, 2017 Mem pick
Beyond Trade: Draft more prospects and continue the Process

Post Draft Depth Charts
Portland
Lillard, turner, Napier
Fultz, Crabbe
Harkless, Aminu
Vonleh, Davis, Bell
Nurkic, Okafor

Indiana
Teague, Ellis
McCollum, Robinson lll
Jackson/Tatum, Miles
Young, Allen
Turner, Jefferson, seraphim

Boston
Thomas, Rozier
George, Smart
Crowder, Brown
FA signing, another FA signing
Horford, olynyk

Philadelphia
Simmons, Bayless, McConnell
Bradley, Luwawu Cabarrot, Stauskas
Covington, Anderson
Saric, Holmes
Embiid, Leonard

Why each team makes these moves?
Portland cuts nearly $30 million from their payroll and get the number 1 overall pick who played at a nearby college. Lillard and Fultz could be the most lethal backcourt in the NBA. They both can score at will and can create for their teammates. Portland also get a local in Jordan bell whose defensive capabilities can make up for nurkic and okafor's defensive woes.

Indiana makes a quick rebuild. McCollum and a top 5 pick is about as good of a return for George they could ask for. They remain a playoff caliber team.

Boston gets the superstar they've been trying for and they get rid of Bradley before they have to face the dilemma of resigning him for a lot of money or letting him go for nothing.

Philadelphia gets an excellent two way SG in Bradley who pairs well with Simmons. They get rid of Okafor, who they have no room for anymore with their plethora of quality big men. They do give up a high pick but they get two middle of the pack 1st round draft picks in which they can stockpile even more talent. And who knows they might still get a top 5 pick if the lakers pick falls to them.

25 Apr 2017 20:10:03
No Paul George trade makes sense unless the acquiring team has an assurance that he will sign long-term. In this instance, Boston is not going to trade a starter and the potential No. 1 pick if there is even a chance that George bolts to the Lakers after next season.

26 Apr 2017 00:30:45
If Boston does that need a future 1st rd. coming back to them, not just George. Supercollider is right that's a bit much for a rental. And whoever disagreed is only doing it for obvious reasons, that's just how this blog rolls.

23 Apr 2017 14:27:25
Memphis gets Anthony

The Knicks get Parons, an unprotected 2021 1st, and 2 2nd round picks.

23 Apr 2017 15:14:30
Dont think anyone is trading future unprotected #1's for melo.

23 Apr 2017 15:25:34
Anthony won't agree to go to Memphis, and as bad as Melo's contract is right now, Parsons is worse.

23 Apr 2017 15:45:08
Agree that Melo probably wouldn't waive his no trade clause, but I think he would fit well with Memphis. They are a good defensive team that needs more scoring and shooting.

The picks are just as much for the Knicks taking on Parson's contract as they are for Melo.

24 Apr 2017 13:44:34
I like this trade
c Anthony would be a great fit in Memphis
And that pick would be valuable in the future for the Knicks.

24 Apr 2017 15:00:13
The sad thing is that Melo would actually be a great fit on quite a few teams, but they're all places he's likely to say no to. I really like the fit in both Minny and Denver, and they have the space to bring in that contract. especially the Wolves. At this point, you need to bring him in as a PF on a team that has a solid C both on the boards and defensively. I keep hearing the Celtics, which blows my mind. That's one of the last places he should be looking. His skill set is maybe the third or fourth thing they need, and it's not what they need at the position he should be playing at this point.

20 Apr 2017 18:31:20
Cle - Bos - Okc - Brk 4 way trade

Cle - Brook Lopez
Bos - Kanter
OKC - Love
Brk - jerebko, Zeller, singler, 2017 OKC 1st, 2019 Mem 1st (from Boston)

Cleveland gets a big who can play in the post, stretch the floor, and offer some interior defense. I'd consider Lopez a more well rounded big man than love at this point in their careers.

Boston gets some bench support to help relieve their offensive struggles when Thomas is off the court.

OKC gets a sharpshooting stretch four which they desperately need.

Brooklyn absorbs some salary in exchange for draft picks.

20 Apr 2017 18:53:40
If Boston wants to let go of Zeller and Jerebko (which the Celtics probably do), they just let them walk away. They aren't going to give up two first-round picks for nothing.

20 Apr 2017 19:21:40
Boston is only giving up 1 1st round pick. And kanter has his problems but I wouldn't call him nothing.

20 Apr 2017 19:47:26
Boston would only be giving up 1 pick. And Zeller has a non- guaranteed for 8 mil and Jerebko will be a UFA. Kanter is a defensive liability and doesn't fit in a Stevens system, especially at that price tag. They would much rather just trade with OKC for Adams.

20 Apr 2017 20:15:00
Clevelands not giving up Love for Lopez. It doesn't make them better and Lopez is older.

21 Apr 2017 00:36:31
Boston can still sign a superstar with Kanter's salary on the books. Kanter also has a player option following the 2017-2018 season, when IT and Bradley become free agents. So If things don't work out, then Kanter can walk and Boston will have the cap space to sign their stars. Kanter might be a liability on defense but Boston desperately needs his offense. IT won't be able to carry the same load he did this year. Having Kanter come off the bench would be a huge help.

Lopez is only 5 months older than Love so age shouldn't be considered in that deal. Lopez is top 10 in the league in blocks and he can do everything love can do on offense and more. Lopez can create from the blocks with nifty hooks and floaters.

21 Apr 2017 14:58:32
Most metrics have Love ad a better defender, Love is a far better rebounder, Love spaces the floor better, Love is the better passer, and Love is the better overall scorer. Love would be putting up atleast 25 13 and 4 on that garbage Brooklyn team. The Cavs would be better off trading Love for Robin Lopez.

18 Apr 2017 16:44:11
If the Celtics get the #1 pick

Celtics trade 2017 #1 overall, 2018 Celtics and Memphis picks, Rozier, Mickey and the rights to Nader. for Porzingis

This is obviously if the rumors of Porzingis being fed up with the Knicks are accurate. The gain for the Celtics is obvious. They get a young stud PF to play alongside Horford who would fit their system perfectly. I don't think I need to argue their upside.

The Knicks would be getting the #1 pick, which could be Ball or Fultz depending on who Jackson thinks would run his triangle the best. They also wind up getting three picks in next season's draft to take anything they can get. They get Rozier, who has proven to be a capable backup PG, and Mickey. mostly thrown in for filler. The interesting guy would be Nader, who just finished up a rookie of the year campaign in the D-League. Obviously the competition isn't the same, but he's looked impressive.

That's where I would start the framework of the deal, and they still have that 2018 Nets pick to swap with one of the other 2018 picks to beef up the package during negotiations.

The bigger key for the Celtics is that they'd hold onto their cap flexibility, and would still be able to go after a guy like Hayward. With those picks gone guys like PG13 and Butler are out of the conversation, so he'd be the primary target.

All that said, I think the Porzingis stuff will blow over and they won't even consider trading him, but it's fun to speculate in the meantime.

18 Apr 2017 17:54:23
I would offer both Brkln picks, 2 2nd rd. picks as well as 1 of Smart, Crowder, Bradley or Brown. This playoff round is really showing their weakness loud and clear. Need a big big time. If the C's don't make it out of the 1st rd. DA needs to call Jackson and make an offer he can't refuse, even it means taking Melo in the deal.

18 Apr 2017 19:25:35
I don't like it for either team. The chances the Knicks find a guy agian with Poringis's potential are low and the Celtics are the 1 seed right now. If they are going to give up that much go after an established star like George or Butler.

18 Apr 2017 20:37:31
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whooooooooooa.
billj, you would really take Anthony?

18 Apr 2017 23:37:16
And Noah for Supercollider.

19 Apr 2017 01:13:14
If it would get the C's Porzingis I would do that deal. He could be traded at a later date easier with the Celtics than with NYK IMO. He might even be a different player in a Stevens system. Food for thought.

19 Apr 2017 14:53:53
I'd have to think long and hard about taking on one of the other rough contracts, be it Melo or Noah. melo can play, but he's ideally a stretch 4 which is what you're going after Porzingis for in the first place. The reason the Knicks are in the situation they are is that their top players really are at the same position. Noah brings everything you'd want in a bench big when healthy. but that contract would destroy their cap over the next few contract extensions. If Melo and/ or Noah need to go, I think you're probably looking at a third team being involved like Minny or even Denver. Melo would be a very interesting fit on both teams if he was willing to look at basketball instead of nightlife. He reportedly split from LaLa, so that might not be as big a concern.

Maybe make it so that Celtics get Porzingis, Wolves get Melo, and NY gets Rubio, Aldrich, Rozier, Mickey, #1 and two 2018 non Nets 1sts.

19 Apr 2017 19:10:26
To me the origimal deal is rozier and the first pick for zinger. The rest of the offer doesn't bring much if any value being 2 dleaguers and 2 late firsts.

The deal would start with both Brooklyn picks I think, and even then ny has no reason to trade him.

If Ainge didn't need to rip everyone off, he could have had one of the Sixers bigs over the summer. It wasn't hard to see the current bigs on the celtics (if you want to call anyone on the celtics a big) were bums.

20 Apr 2017 04:50:41
Ainge didn't rip anyone off! If you mean Bradley and Crowder they signed contracts prior to the Cap going up he didn't hold any gun to their heads to make them Sign. At that time those guys got paid accordingly with good contracts. And as far as IT, he was signed by the Suns then traded. And Brooklyn was the stupid ones for offering a gold mine for KG and Pierce. He was a freaking Genius for scoring that mother load.

20 Apr 2017 14:51:14
I could care less what the players on the celtics are making salary-wise.

I was moreso looking at his trade history along with the rumors that were floating around on and around draft night this past year regarding him unwilling to move their first rounder or really moving anything of value for anything other then a superstar (George, butler, etc. ) that would require a much larger package.

I just think he doesn't necessarily look at trade scenarios in which both teams would benefit. Only ones in which the celtics would win by a large margin.

The celtics thinking that they would have any legitimate chance at a championship with the current list of 4's and 5's they had was laughable. With all those core guys on reasonable contracts along with the addition of horford, if think they'd be trying to make a move THIS year at at least making the championship and seeing what happens.

At their current pace, they are going to need to make a lot of decisions on a lot of guys In the next two years and more then likely will end up with a team of horrors smart bradley/ crowder and a bunch of young guys in 3 years. is that championship material?

14 Apr 2017 04:47:54
Boston - Indiana (Assuming George Agrees to Resign)

Boston: Thomas, Brown, clippers pick and memphis pick 2019 + fillers (No brooklyn picks)

Indy: George

Celtics draft fultz, bring over yabu and zizic

Smart/fultz
bradley/FA
crowder/FA
george/yabusele
horford/zizic

this would be a team that would be a couple of vets away from going to the championship. You would have one of the best if not the best defensive lineup in the nba with 4 players being able to guard multiple positions and switch. I think this team beats the cavs. Who says no and why?

14 Apr 2017 05:07:20
Smart isn't a starting pg in the NBA and having depend on a rookie is risky. Boston's entire offense is predicated on Thomas's ability to penetrate. There is no way they should deal him. I don't think the Pacers would be interested in Thomas either. You would need to find a third team with picks or young players who is trying to win now. It would make more sense for everyone involved to trade the Brooklyn pick rather than Thomas.

14 Apr 2017 07:20:00
Don't get why Pacers would ever do this. If George agrees to resign then they wouldn't trade him period. Thomas is going to be a FA in 2018 so he isn't that attractive especially to a Pacers team without George. They'd probably be looking to rebuild with young talent and not pay a guy near 30 the 4 or 5 year max contract he'd likely command. As rkenne_16 mentions it makes a ton more sense for Celtics to keep Thomas who gives them another go-to scorer (I agree Smart isn't starting caliber pg and Fultz may be a great scorer one day but I wouldn't want to depend on an unproven 19yr old rookie if I'm looking to compete for a title) and for Pacers to get one of Nets picks instead.

For salary cap reasons it would probably be wise for Celtics to try and keep Brown and deal Bradley instead (he will be a FA in 2018 as will IT, George and Smart) although Pacers would likely prefer Brown for similar reasons and just cause he is younger.

14 Apr 2017 13:28:01
I never seen a team of a top seed fan base put so many trade rumors on the site. Have a little faith, that is best team in the east. As long Supercollider is alive, Hope C's never win any titles.

14 Apr 2017 14:15:21
I don't dislike this trade, IT is a great pointguard, only a little to old for a rebuilding team. And That Memphis pick could be good, but i think its top five protected.

Boston should trade PG13 for Fulzz+ Fillers.

Indy can rebuilt around Fullz and Turner
Boston becomes a reall contender.

14 Apr 2017 17:04:23
If the Celtics can get Paul for that and PG13 agreeing to sign then that would be GREAT! Very doubtful though.

If that trade went through the C's should give those Brooklyn picks and then some to NYK for Porzingis and Lee.

14 Apr 2017 21:44:04
Shizzee -- Danny Ainge leaves Celtics championship banners for dinner tips.

29 Mar 2017 11:11:27
76ers off season

Trade Okafor to Lakers for Nance, Brewer (buyout) and 2017 2nd rounder.

Trade Stauskas and Rodriguez for Tyus Jones.

Trade Bayless for Nets 2018 2nd rounder.

Trade Henderson for Memphis 2018 2nd rounder.

Draft:
Monk 5th
Thornwaite 32nd (Lakers pick)
Blossomgame 40th (Dallas pick)

Sign G. Hill 4/MAX

Lineup

G.Hill/T.Jones/McConnell
Monk/THornwaite/TLC
Simmons/Anderson/Blossomgame
Saric/Nance/Long
Embiid/Holmes/Splitter

29 Mar 2017 18:00:04
Honestly I believe Nance is a better player than Okafor so lakers say no unless Philly takes on the contract of either Deng or Mozgov.

29 Mar 2017 18:21:44
Lakers would not give that up, nance alone is probably too much for okafor.

The tyus jones trade is laughable.

Why would the nets give up even more picks for a guard that isn't going to change much.

Also, isn't henderson pretty bad? Makes no sense that the team with cap issues takes on a 9 million dollar back up.

I don't see a reason why any of these trades would happen.

26 Mar 2017 06:27:45
Detroit get: BKN 2018 pick, MEM pick, Jaylen Brown and a 2020 second

Celtcs get: Andre Drummond and 2018 2nd rounder

26 Mar 2017 06:51:39
BOS would never do this.

26 Mar 2017 16:23:04
Boston would be tempted, but don't think they would include Brown, maybe Rozier. They have to do something because their bigs will be let go this summer.

11 Mar 2017 10:25:14
Boston: J Butler+ P George

Chi: 1rnd pick 2017+ Crowder+ Zeller

Indy: J Brown+ Rozier+ 1rnd pick 18+ 1rnd pick 19 Memphis and Clippers


Boston receive two stars and can go all in for a title.

Chicago can draft Fullz and Crowder is a nice replacement for J Butler

Indy go's for a total rebuilt. They can draft Porter and maybe Ayton in the draft.
C: Ayton
PF: M turner
Sf: J Brown
SG:Porter
PG: Rozier

12 Mar 2017 09:17:06
George wants to play in LA.
And I think Bulls want more in return but I think a deal can be made and it will cost less than Heyward which would make it posible to sign another top quality player or trade for one.

10 Mar 2017 13:10:59
Boston Celtics (what I would do)

Boston gets- Andre Drummond, 2018 2nd, 2018 DET 1st Top-8 Protected.

Detroit gets- 2019 LAC 1st, 2019 MEM 1st, Al Horford.

Thomas/Rozier/Jackson
Bradley/Smart/Young
Crowder/Brown/Green
Johnson/Jerebko/Mickey
Drummond/Olynyk/Zeller

Draft:
#1- Markelle Fultz, PG/SG (Sign)
#38- Jonathon Motley, PF (Sign)
#53- Grayson Allen, SG/SF
#57- Joel Berry, PG

Thomas/Fultz/Rozier/Jackson/Berry
Bradley/Smart/Young/Allen
Crowder/Brown/Green
Johnson/Jerebko/Motley/Mickey
Drummond/Olynyk/Zeller

10 Mar 2017 16:19:35
Why would Detroit do this?

10 Mar 2017 17:08:45
Doesn't really make sense for either team.

10 Mar 2017 17:17:33
Gasupo is right, unless Pistons got a Nets pick they wouldn't even listen to any offers. And they would not be giving draft picks back. I'm not sure if Boston would trade Horford to be honest. His character and skills are what the C's need, but he does need to start scoring more. I'm all for the C's acquiring Drummond.

10 Mar 2017 17:18:58
Horford > Drummond

10 Mar 2017 18:01:03
Drummond > horford. it's not close

If detroit traded drummond they'd need younger players and inks in return. Not the old guy.

10 Mar 2017 18:02:25
C Drummond

PF Horford

SG Butler/ Heyward

2G Smart

PG K Walker.

09 Mar 2017 17:50:27
Mem and Orl

Memphis get Hezonja

Orlando get Baldwin

Memphis are going to be weak at sg Tony Allen is expiring and old, they have no 1st rounder and adding Hezonja who could do with a fresh start and still has some upside as an athletic shooter could be a good pick up for team looking to tightening up around a different core now most of their original pieces are old and expiring.

Orlando add a young pg who has talent as shooter and already has similar numbers to Payton but could carve out a bigger role with potentially higher ceiling as he can shoot the 3 which is needed for a pg and would complement this team better and with their pick moving due to Sixers and kings getting worse they seem to be around the Tatum/ Issac area in the draft which would mean less mins for Hezonja and less chance of them getting one of the top 3 pg's who better fit their team so a sf would be on the cards.

09 Mar 2017 18:02:22
Orlando would need more than just Baldwin.

09 Mar 2017 18:19:06
I think ideally the Magic would get Dennis Smith but with Kings draft pick falling their is a chance they jump the Magic and take him before they do (I think Sixers will get Monk regardless although if they get Lakers pick too maybe they get Smith)

I don't think Magic are getting enough for Hezonja. I don't think Baldwin would start although its unlikely whomever they draft would (Payton-Fournier-Ross-Gordon_Vucevic lineup) either.

Therefore I don't really see the issue with getting Tatum or Issac especially since both have the length to play pf or sf and Hezonja can play sg or sf. With Jeff Green a FA they don't have a real backup pf and with the team pretty bad they'd be better off playing Hezonja over Meeks at sg so I think between sf and pf slots there should be plenty of minutes for a Tatum/ Issac type.

03 Mar 2017 12:54:17
1) Boston- Utah
Boston: D Favors
Utah: C Zeller+ 1rnd pick Memphis 19 and Clippers 19

2) Boston-Chicago
Boston: J Butler
Chicago: J Brown+ Bradley+Rozier+ 1rnd pick Nets 18+ 1rnd pick Boston 18+ 1rnd pick Boston 2020



Boston:
draft Fulzz
sign K Durant
resign: Jerebko and A Johnson

C:Favors/ A Johnson
PF: Horford/ Jerebko
SF: K Durant/ Crowder
Sg: J Butler/ M Smart
Pg: I thomas/ Fullz

03 Mar 2017 14:09:47
T. Zeller**.

03 Mar 2017 17:16:45
How would any of that work with money.

03 Mar 2017 18:53:34
it did work on the trademachine
And boston is going to have 44 million in capspace.

03 Mar 2017 19:28:28
They would not have 44 million in Cap space by adding Favors. Zeller has an expiring contract, but by trading for Favors, that adds an extra 12 million on the books for next year. The Butler trade essentially keeps money the same. Fultz would have a 7 million dollar cap hold as well. Celtics would likely have about 20 million in cap space, which is not enough to sign Kevin Durant.

04 Mar 2017 10:28:28
Zeller has a contract for one more year, so i think Boston has 30 M left for signing KD.

27 Feb 2017 19:01:02
Suns offseason

Trade Bledsoe to Jazz for Burks and 2017 1st

Trade Knight and Dudley to Suns for Parsons and Baldwin

- I know Parsons is really playing bad with Memphis so maybe a change would help

Draft
1st round
Lonzo Ball PG
Tyler Lydon PF

Ball - Baldwin
Booker - Burks - Barbosa
Parsons - Warren
Chriss - Bender - Lydon
Chandler - Len

27 Feb 2017 21:58:12
Chandler Parsons is trash, he's always hurt and even when he does play it's average quality of play. Him and Noah are the most overpaid players in the league. Suns would be fools to trade for him they should just draft Josh Jackson.

27 Feb 2017 22:47:33
Not sure how interested Jazz would be In Bledsoe since Hill has played very well for them when healthy and they should be favorites to resign him. Don't think Parsons is the type of guy a young team should take a chance on especially cause he'd take minutes away from Warren and has a sizeable contract.

28 Feb 2017 00:19:43
Agree that PHX should move Bledsoe. I also think Utah would not go for this. because they have indicated they want to keep Hill

Suns would say no to a Parsons deal.

01 Mar 2017 23:37:48
I think Bledsoe would be great on the jazz! I have been hearing that Hill is wanting 20-25 mill a year. No way he is worth that at this age and injury history.

27 Feb 2017 11:03:36
This should happen on draftday

Boston: P george

Indy: Crowder+ J Brown+ I Thomas+ 1rnd pick Nets 18+ 1rnd pick Memphis 19

Boston: draft Fulzz
resign A Johnson, Olynyk

boston:
C: Zigic
PF: Horford
Sf: P George
SG: bradley
PG: Fullz
sixht: M smart

The Pacers can offer IT a Max contract because they will have many rookie contracts (J Brown, M turner, 2017 pick, 2018 pick, 2019 pick, Nets pick 2018, Memphis pick 2019. So there's a little chance he would go to another team.

27 Feb 2017 12:34:59
All that for George to go to the Lakers at the end of the season. Completely foolish!

27 Feb 2017 13:11:25
George might be worth two assets, but not 5.
And as billj says, the Celtics would have him for only a year before he bolts to the Lakers.
Now, for Butler I would up the stakes a bit and offer Bradley, Crowder and the 2018 Brooklyn No. 1.
I would then see if Portland would bite on Thomas for Lillard, and move on Hayward.
That would give you something like:

Lillard
Hayward
Butler
Horford
Zizic
---
Off the bench you could have plenty of depth -- Brown, Fultz or Ball, plus Smart.

27 Feb 2017 15:22:45
It's a lot for george, but i think he will stay when we pay him the 200 M contract, so Indy doesn't have to dump him.

PG13 would play for a contender, so i think he likes Boston.
and boston should trade IT now, he's playing like an MVP, But Boston shouldn't give him a Max contract for four years.

We would trade PG for lesser assets, but we want the 2017 pick in that case. And i think Boston rather has Fullz then IT. (I prefere J Brown+ the 2017 pick over this trade)

27 Feb 2017 22:10:26
Why would portland trade lillard for IT. If the blazers were trading lillard it would be for Jimmy Butler or Paul George.

28 Feb 2017 09:21:51
I Think IT would like to play for Portland, but Portland would want the 2018 Nets pick too, if they do that trade.

01 Mar 2017 03:49:18
IT is not a throw in player. he's a superstar right now.

22 Feb 2017 15:07:53
Boston-Indy-Bulls

Boston: P George+ Butler

Chicago: a bradley+ Crowder+ 1rnd pick Nets 18+ 1rnd pick Boston 18+ clippers pick 19

Indy: C Zeller+ J Brown+ 1rnd pick Nets 17+ 1rnd pick Memphis 19

22 Feb 2017 20:00:21
That's a bit nuts, and I'd do it as the Celtics, but I think one of those 1st rounders should go to Indy instead of Chicago. They have the two sure players in Bradley and Crowder, while Indy is only getting the potential of Brown back.

22 Feb 2017 00:28:13
OKC - Kanter Abrines Sabonis 17 1st round (Picks for Atlanta at draft) 20 1st round
ATL- Millsap, Patterson, Muscala

OKC- Roberson, Singler 17 2nd Round, 19 2nd Round, 17 2nd Round (from Memphis)
DEN- Chandler

OKC- Payne, Morrow 18 2nd round (from Boston)
SAC- Collison, McClemore

Russ/ Collison
Oladipo/ McClemore
Chandler/ Grant
Millsap/ Grant, Collison, Lauvergne
Adams/ Lauvergne, Collison

21 Feb 2017 20:23:12
Celtics trade:
-Marcus Smart
-Amir Johnson
-Jonas Jerebko
-2 1sts (Grizzlies and Celtics)

Pistons trade:
-Andre Drummond

21 Feb 2017 21:23:36
I don't see any way the celtics get any all star without including at least one nets pick.

22 Feb 2017 01:53:46
The C's do not have 2 first round picks this year. They own a PICK SWAP with the Nets. So in this deal, The Pistons get the #1 pick. Still want to do it?

22 Feb 2017 16:08:55
There isn't a specification on the picks I know 2019 is the memphis pick but the celtics could be any year. Either way i think Bradley 2018 Brooklyn and zeller should get it done.

21 Feb 2017 15:53:44
ORL MEM trade

Hezonja, Payton for A. Harrison, W. Baldwin,T. Daniels and future 1. round pick......Magic waive Wilcox

Magic get more rotational players for Vogel to help himbsearch for the right one....Memphis 2 young guns one of them established pg already and the other sg/sf with a lot of potential if givdn the opportunity

ORLANDO
DJ/Harrison/Baldwin
Fournier/Daniels/Meeks
Ross/Rudez/Brown
GordoN/Green
Vuc/Biyombo/Zimmerman

Draft young Pf

MEMPHIS
Conley/Payton/Douglas
Allen/Hezonja/Vince
Parsons/Ennis
Green/Z-Bo/Martin
Gasol/Wright/D.Davis

 
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