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21 Jul 2017 14:58:06
This is convoluted, but I combined 2 ideas I had...

OKC gets:
Tyson Chandler, Kenneth Faried, Wilson Chandler

Suns get:
Chandler Parsons, Conditional Grizz pick

Denver gets:
Eric Bledsoe, Kyle Singler, Doug McDermott, OKC future first

Memphis gets:
Enes Kanter, Alex Abrines

OKC reasoning:
Go all in. They have to. This gives them big upgrades on the bench and gives more reason for Russ and PG to consider staying.

Suns reasoning:
Are Chandler or Bledsoe part of their future plans? Doubtful. When healthy is Parsons an elite scorer? Close. Suns have the best shot at reviving Parsons, and he'd bring a nice scoring compliment to Booker moving forward.

Nuggets reasoning:
Pairing Bledsoe with Milsap, Jokic, Murray, Harris, etc. is a nice idea. He can start or play as a super sub. An OKC pick could be huge if their two stars bolt, but the bigger get is McDermott who could be a huge floor spacer for them.

Grizz Reasoning:
Pretty simple. Gasol is the only TRUE center on the roster. Plus, they get one of Gasol's national teammates to help space the floor. Grit and Grind can help cover the shortcomings both additions have on defense. Plus they offload Parsons.

21 Jul 2017 03:50:48
Bucks Pacers

Henson,Hawes,Vaughn and 2nd rd pick for Thad Young and GR3

I know this trade doesn't save us that much money now but can help in the long run.

Grizzlies Bucks

Telly and 2nd rd pick for Vrandon Wright

Resign Terry
Resign Beasley


Brogdon,Delly,Payton
Middleton,Terry,GR3
Antetekoumnpo,Snell,Beasley
Young,Wilson,Parker(injured),
Maker,Monroe,Wright

21 Jul 2017 02:19:03
Cavs get green
Spurs get smith osman

Cavs get vucevic
Magic get shumpert felder Tavares 1st

Cavs get gasol
Grizzlies get love frye Jefferson 2nd

Sign rose bogut gasol motiejunas Allen ellis

Irving rose Calderon
Green Ellis Allen
James korver green
Thompson vucevic montiejunas
Gasol gasol bogut.

21 Jul 2017 14:50:04
I'm not sure why the Cavs would need 5 Centers.

20 Jul 2017 20:18:02
Spurs/ Grizzlies

To SAS - Jamychal Green (S&T), James Ennis

To MEM - LMA, Derrick White, 2018 2nd

Spurs get younger and more versatile with Green, and a solid backup SG behind Leonard.

Grizz pair an scoring big man with the strong defensive Gasol, and a young guard with potential in White. Based on a Green AAV contract of $17M per, the numbers work.

21 Jul 2017 02:23:00
Pretty bad value for Spurs I think they should be getting more especially if they are going to have to pay Green 17 mill per year.

For Grizzlies they might as well go for it with LA.

21 Jul 2017 03:21:59
Spurs should get more

19 Jul 2017 13:54:27
NYK - MEM - DET - HOU

NYK get: Reggie Jackson, Trevor Ariza (exp), Brandon Wright (exp), Stanley Johnson, James Ennis III (exp), and Wade Baldwin IV (exp)

pg. Jackson/ Ntilinka
sg. Hardaway JR/ Baker
sf. Ariza/ Johnson
pf. Porzingis/ Kuzminskas
c. Hernangomez/ OQuinn/ Wright

MEM get: Joakim Noah, Tobias Harris, Eric Gordon, 7 2018 1st DP NYK (top 3 protected)

pg. Conley/ Evans
sg. Gordon/ Seldon
sf. McLemore/ Martin
pf. Harris/ Green
c. Gasol/ Noah

DET get: Chandler Parsons, Ryan Anderson, Courtney Lee, and HOU 2018 1st DP

pg. Bradley/ Smith
sg. Lee/ Galloway
sf. Parsons/ Kennard
pf. Anderson/ Tolliver
c. Drummond/ Marjanovic

HOU get: Carmelo Anthony, Jon Leuer, and Troy Daniels

pg. CP3/ Daniels
sg. Harden/ Quaterman
sf. Anthony/ Tucker
pf. Nene/ Leuer
c. Capela/ Black

19 Jul 2017 19:35:19
Knicks are not giving away 1st rounders! Period!

20 Jul 2017 19:45:27
pistons don't have the cap room to do this and why would they, no one wants parsons, also stan van gundy is very high on stanley johnson.

19 Jul 2017 04:28:15
The Cavs go all in.

The Cavs get Marc Gasol, Melo, Bledsoe, Chriss, Danny Green and a Phoenix 1st

Phoenix gets Irving

Memphis gets Love and a Cavs 2nd

Ny gets Thompson, Bender, and Felder

The Spurs get Shumpert, a protected Memphis 1st, and a Cavs 2nd

19 Jul 2017 06:03:00
I wouldn't trade Irving if i were the Cavs. If james leaves again, he's still young enough to be their cornerstone.

19 Jul 2017 12:01:08
As the corner stone they got the 1st pick overall. Besides he already said if lebron goes, he wants to go.

19 Jul 2017 16:30:46
This one is a fantastic trade for almost everyone involved. Memphis doesn't really get any better, but Love is 4 years younger than Gasol, so he should be around longer.

It's especially good for the Cavs, as it takes away their number 2 star, but gives them a ton more depth, which is more important to have around James. so I really don't want anyone to see this and make it a reality.

Phoenix gets a legit star to pair with Booker, and he's young enough that he will still be there when Booker is a top guy and Jackson comes into his own. They give up a lot of potential in Bender and Chriss, so they're going to need help in the frontcourt, but it's the beginnings of a solid squad.

NY gets Thompson to play alongside Porzingis, and Bender to back him up. More importantly, they're getting anything of real value for Melo, which is all they can ask for at this point.

19 Jul 2017 16:35:05
I think the Cavs have to commit to winning titles in the short term and worry about the future when that day comes. If they could get significantly better by trading Irving now, they should do it. Since he's still young enough to go to a team that's been rebuilding the past few years and he has 3 years left on his contract, his value is never going to be higher. Obviously, if they only get low ball offers for him there is no point in trading him, but if they could get something like I wrote here it would definitely need to be considered. After this trade, the team would
take a half a step back on offense to take a giant step forward on defense. They also end up with a few pieces to make a second trade.

19 Jul 2017 20:35:43
Phoenix gets a steal!

18 Jul 2017 09:57:36
Bucks-Cavaliers-Grizzlies-Knicks

Bucks get K.Love

Giannis
Brogdon
Middleton
Love
Henson

Cavaliers get M.Gasol & C.Anthony

Irving
Smith
James
Anthony
Gasol

Grizzlies get G.Monroe , J.Parker & T.Thompson

Conley
Evans
Parsons
PArker
Thompson/Monroe

Knicks get I.Shumpert , J.Green & 2nd round pick from MEM

Nkitilina
THJ/Lee
Shumpert
Kristaps
Willie

18 Jul 2017 14:59:06
Bucks don't want Kevin love

17 Jul 2017 18:39:02
CLE-NYK-MEM Trade

Cleveland gets- Carmelo Anthony

New York gets- Tristian Thompson, Brandan Wright, Troy Daniels, James Ennis

Memphis gets- Iman Shumpert

17 Jul 2017 20:44:09
It's a bad move for the Cavs to include Tristan in a trade for Melo unless they end up also getting a defensive minded starting caliber center back. Unless their is a trade out there where the Cavs get back significant talent along with Melo, the Knicks decide Jr Smith and Shumpert are enough for Melo, or he gets bought out (none seem likely right now) it's hard to envision the Cavs acquiring Melo.

18 Jul 2017 07:25:13
This makes zero sense.

15 Jul 2017 20:13:53
Celtics are the clear favorites to land Anthony Davis if the Pelicans decide to trade him. It all depends on this season. If the Boogie-AD project didn't work, the Pels will look to trade him and Rebuild. Davis is also a big fan of Gordon Hayward.

Trade:

Celtics get: Anthony Davis

Pelicans get: Jaylon Brown, Marcus Smart, Marcus Morris and Aaron Baynes + 18 Nets Pick, 18Lakers/19 Sac Pick and 19 Grizzlies Pick.

15 Jul 2017 21:19:26
Why is it that Celtics fans live in a 24 hour Fantasy land?

15 Jul 2017 22:35:50
Yes, the C's have the resources to get him, no, the Pels aren't dealing him.

16 Jul 2017 02:38:55
So the. They don't have the resources to get him.

16 Jul 2017 05:25:24
Even though we have the assets to trade for him, it would mean we would have no bench and deplete our stash of picks. Plus even if the AD, Cousins pairing doesn't work I doubt AD is the one that will get moved, AD is a better all around player but he is the face of that team. I am a Celtics fan and don't get me wrong I would love to have Davis on the team but I think it would take a lot and it probably wouldn't be worth it to trade for him, even if he became available.

16 Jul 2017 13:21:37
I'm a Celtics fan. that's unrealistic. The only way Davis gets moved is if he asks, and I just don't see that. If anything, you should be looking at a trade for Cousins. which IS actually something that could happen, and he could be had for a much lesser package. The Brooklyn 1st and salary would likely be able to get it done at that point, as it would still be an upgrade from what they sent out to get him. He'd be on his last year however, and you'd have to throw him into the mix of guys needing to get paid next season.

16 Jul 2017 13:28:17
You'd have to think it would be Crowder, Morris (can't be traded until September, but NO will try the twin tower experiment at least that long) and Smart as the pieces heading to NO. Does a starting lineup of IT, Brown, Hayward, Horford and Cousins have what it takes to win it all this year? Your bench would be Rozier, Baynes and mostly rookies, which does come into play.

17 Jul 2017 16:07:24
@Hamburger It is not that they do not have resources. But unless you are in total rebuild you do not trade a handful of pieces for a Superstar. Pels did not bring Cousins in to enter a rebuild phase.

14 Jul 2017 14:55:19
Okc-memphis

Okc- Kanter, abrines, singler, 2 2nd round picks or one 1st

Memphis- gasol, Tony Allen (S&t) for 5 mil a year

Okc becomes the best defensive team that could then match the warriors

Memphis goes younger and more offensive. At best they are 8th seed anyways.

15 Jul 2017 02:52:20
What a terrible deal for Memphis.

15 Jul 2017 16:50:56
Olidipo and sabonis for George is a terrible trade for Indiana too.

17 Jul 2017 04:22:57
This trade maes no sense for the thunder and I'm a thunder fan Adams deserve to start and gasoline deserves to start bc this is the NBA we play in and Memphis would never do this a different trade would be Adams singler and a couple of second round picks for gasol and then sign tony Allen that makes more sense.

17 Jul 2017 04:31:00
And the line up should look something like this
Westbrook/ Felton/ Christian
Abrines/ T. Allan/ Fergersun
Roberson/ McDermott/ Huestis
George/ Patterson/ Collison
M. Gasol/ Kanter/ Johnson
Allan comes off the bench vs start to help with the defense in the second unit and it doesn't make since to play Allan and Roberson at once and then abrines will help space the starting lineup.

17 Jul 2017 04:33:04
U could also do the exact same trade I proposed earlier for boogie (cousins) bc the pelicans don't feel the fan keep boogie and would rather be safe and sorry with Adams which can still develop to be one of the best centers on the league.

13 Jul 2017 17:43:50
Cleveland Cavs Moves

-Trade Channing Frye to Memphis for Brandon Wright (saves money and Wright can be backup center and protect rim)

-Sign Luc Mbah a Moute 1yr 3m

Lineup:
PG: Irving, Calderon, Felder
SG: Smith, Shumpert, Osman
SF: James, Korver, Jefferson
PF: Love, Moute, Green
C: Thompson, Wright, Tavares.

13 Jul 2017 18:10:24
Sure it makes sense for Cavs but why would Memphis do that without a pick or something involved.

13 Jul 2017 18:17:24
Idk I mean Frye could be a good fit for them, he shot 40% from 3, and he's also a great veteran presence.

13 Jul 2017 20:21:50
Maybe add a second from the Cavs since Fry is significantly older. They're both limited players with very specific skill sets. The Cavs could use more rim protection and the Grizzlies could use more shooting it makes sense for both teams.

12 Jul 2017 15:38:11
3 team trade:
Aldridge and Plumlee(s&t) to Grizzlies
Green(spurs) to Nuggets
Gasol to Spurs then resign Pau and Simmons

Spurs:
Gasol/Lauvergne
Gasol/Anderson
Leonard/Gay
Simmons/Murray
Parker/Mills/White

Grizzlies:
Plumlee/Wright/Davis
Aldridge/Green(resign)
Parsons/Ennis
McLemore/Evans/Daniels
Conley/Harrison

Nuggets:
Jokic/Faried
Millsap/Lyles/Lydon
Green/Chandler
Harris/Barton
Murray/Mudiay/Nelson

11 Jul 2017 21:34:55
MEM - SAS - DET

MEM get: Lamarcus Aldridge

pg. Conley
sg. Evans
sf. McLemore
pf. Aldridge
c. Gasol

SAS get: Tobias Harris, John Leuer, and MEM 2020 1st DP

pg. Parker
sg. Green
sf. Leonard
pf. Harris/ Leuer
c. Gasol

DET get: Chandler Parsons

pg. Bradley
sg. Kennard
sf. Johnson
pf. Parsons
c. Drummond

11 Jul 2017 22:33:20
Pretty bad return for Spurs. I don't think Leuer is better than David Lee, Kyle Anderson or Rudy Gay all who could play minutes at the 4. The Memphis pick doesn't help Spurs much and don't think they can trade it since they already dealt 2019 pick to Celtics.

Smart move for Memphis who don't appear like they'll keep Green and would get a contributor in Aldridge who they wouldn't have to pay for much longer if things went south.

Its a gamble for Pistons getting Parsons who I think is a better player than Harris when healthy issue is he hasn't healthy often lately. I believe they do save some money in this deal tho so that helps a little bit for a team over the cap and not that good.

11 Jul 2017 10:26:46
Nuggets-Grizzlies

Nuggets get Mike Conley
> a major upgrade at pg spot to compete

Conley-Nelson
Murray-Harris-Beasley
Chandler-Hernangomez
Millsap-Lyles-Lydon
Jokic-Plumlee

Grizzlies get 2018 1st round pick (lottery protected) , Emmanuel Mudiay , Darrell Arthur , Will Barton & Kenneth Faried
> get a bunch of young guys to rebuild if they also decide to trade Gasol

Mudiay-Evans
Barton-Baldwin-Harrison
Parsons-McLemore
Green-Faried-Arthur
Gasol-Wright

11 Jul 2017 11:03:36
Not much upside in any of those players Memphis are receiving.

11 Jul 2017 13:53:53
Personally I think Grizzlies will have a hard time just making the playoffs in a loaded west (they lost Randolph and could potentially lose Green and Allen without adding much) even if they manage to stay healthy which they've struggled with. I think they should definitely entertain the idea of dealing Conley and Gasol. Don't expect them getting fair value on these guys (look at most recent deals and nobody really has) so I don't see them getting significantly better than this. Only thing that may stop them from rebuilding is Celtics have their 2019 pick (although top 1-8 protected in 2019, 1-6 2020 and unprotected 2021).

Would be a steal for Nuggets who need an upgrade at point guard. Getting Conley as one of the best defensive point guards as well as a great shooter would vault the Nuggets into another tier where they'd be on Twolves, and Thunder level.

11 Jul 2017 06:02:56
Detroit trades Jackson, Leuer, protected 1st, 2nd via Orlando
Receive Green, Bledsoe, Oquinn

New York trade Lee, Oquinn, future protected 1st, Noah
Receive Jackson, Chandler

Phoenix trade Bledsoe, Chandler
Receive Leuer, Noah, 1st det, 2nd det via orl, future 1st NYK

Memphis trade green s&t
Receive Lee

11 Jul 2017 06:48:13
Like the trade for everyone except Suns. Suns are giving up the best player in the trade in Bledsoe and Chandler who's contract isn't that bad any longer to take on Leuer (not a good contract but not terrible), Noah (awful contract) and are only compensated with Detroit 1st (I'd say that would be close to Bledsoe's value alone) and a future Knicks pick which I assume would have some protections.

11 Jul 2017 15:23:58
I thought 2 first rounders and a second would be enough.

11 Jul 2017 00:03:25
Saw this on another site

Cavs get gasol Anthony
Knicks get frye Ennis Baldwin 2019 1st (Memphis)
Grizzlies get love shumpert cavs future 1st.

11 Jul 2017 00:11:48
Grizzlies pass, Cavs getting too much.

11 Jul 2017 00:20:18
Celtics own grizzlies 2019 1st rd pick.

11 Jul 2017 07:49:21
I think its a solid trade all around. Celtics do have Memphis 2019 pick (top 5 protected) but I don't think its completely necessary to be added. This is realistically the best Knicks could expect for Melo. They aren't taking back much salary (I believe Frye is an expiring contract) and get Ennis as a solid guy who could start for them at sf and a young guard with size to play some sg in Baldwin.

The move is solid for Cavs but Gasol is up there and has had some worrisome foot injuries. I think however he'd add another wrinkle to their game and GS has nobody who could touch him.

For the Grizzlies it isn't greatest return but Love is at least younger than Gasol and would likely be back close to his Twolves production in Memphis. Shumpert also gives them a solid starting caliber player.

11 Jul 2017 10:17:14
Agree Memphis would probably want more but that future cavs 1st could be a gold mine if lebron leaves.

10 Jul 2017 22:13:11
Detroit trades Jackson
Receive JaMychal green s&t, Oquin

Houston trade Ariza, Anderson,
Receive Melo

New York trade Melo, Oquin, Lee
Receive Jackson, Parsons, Memphis picks

Memphis trade Parsons, Green s&t, picks
Receive Anderson, Lee, Ariza
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Grizzly get much better shooting to make a playoff run.

Knicks add a pick for Melo while getting younger. While shedding salary.

Rockets would be pretty much the only to who could make Melo work and maybe revive his career. Maybe they would need another player added for depth. Lance T???

Detroit would need to get a starting pg but fix the issue at starting pf with Green who seamlessly fits with Dre. Maybe trade Leuer and a first for Bledsoe? Seems phx is tanking still and could use another first and quality backup big.

11 Jul 2017 00:24:54
The Knicks are better off waiving Melo.

11 Jul 2017 02:16:13
Waiving Melo instead of assets and picks?

11 Jul 2017 05:00:58
Jackson and Parsons aren't assets. Detroit and Memphis would have to give up atleast a 1st to get rid of either of their contracts if not more. Plus they give up O'quinn who could fetch them atleast a 2nd or two if not a protected 1st. One 1st to take on those contracts isn't nearly enough.

11 Jul 2017 08:13:19
I agree with rkenne_16. Parsons is a solid player when healthy and Jackson is just a meh player that looked bad last year and has been lockeroom issue in the past. Knicks would owe them a combined 125 mill over the next 3 years which would greatly hinder their flexibility (especially after THJ signing) and basically just waste 3 years of Porzingis. Knick would be better off stretching Melo who has only 1 year + player option left on his contract (not sure how player options are treated when a player is waived) .

Great trades for Grizzlies and Pistons to unload these bad contracts and guys who have been hurt lately to get solid contributors in return. I'm not crazy about Rockets giving up Ariza and Anderson for Melo since I feel like they have plenty of offense and need versatile guys like Ariza that can defend multiple positions. Especially when there is still a chance they could get Melo for nothing if he gets bought out.

10 Jul 2017 14:33:57
NYK - MEM - HOU

NYK get: Chandler Parsons, Trevor Ariza (exp), and Brandon Wright (exp)

pg. Ntilinka/ Randle
sg. Hardaway/ Lee
sf. Parsons/ Ariza
pf. Porzinigs/ O'Quinn
c. Hernangomez/ Wright

MEM get: Ryan Anderson and Joakim Noah

pg. Conley
sg. Evans
sf. McLemore
pf. Anderson/ Green
c. Gasol

HOU get: Carmelo Anthony

pg. Paul
sg. Harden/ Gordon
sf. Anthony/ Tucker
pf. Nene
c. Capela

10 Jul 2017 14:57:23
Memphis turns that down.

10 Jul 2017 15:33:12
Now that I'm looking at it more, the Knicks turn that down too.

10 Jul 2017 16:35:36
Chandler may have a bad contract but its more so because he hasn't been able to stay healthy lately not necessarily due to his play. He is actually a very good versatile player when health that could be #2 or #3 option on a playoff team. Noah on the other hand is a backup center best case scenario and is up there in age so remaining years look even worse.

Chandler is probably a better player than Anderson when healthy but factoring in the injuries I'd probably rather have Anderson if I were Grizzlies but not even close enough to justify taking on Noah's contract and losing a solid backup center in Wright too.

For the Knicks I'd consider this a steal with them getting rid of Noah and Melo's contract, getting two solid role players in Ariza and Wright and Chandler who may have a big contract but is younger than Melo and better than Noah and if healthy could be a very solid contributor across the board.

I know Rockets are rumored to want Melo but I think they should at least try to hold out longer and force Knicks to buy him out. Losing Ariza's defense I think will hurt and I think Anderson as a #3 option and Gordon off the bench is plenty of offense and Melo isn't completely necessary.

10 Jul 2017 19:31:32
well said @Jaw

12 Jul 2017 04:11:10
jaw-you have got to stop posting Melo will be bought out. He won't. This getting worse than Porzingis trades to Celts and Sixers. I said it wouldn't happen and it didn't. Now, Melo won't get bought out. Traded-maybe. Bought out or waived-no benefit. Next year all bets are off. Possible. Not now. If you have a legitimate basketball reason why-I'd love to hear it.

08 Jul 2017 06:13:49
Detroit trades Jackson, gbinije
Receive jamychal green, Mudiay

Denver trade chandler, Mudiay, Barton
Receive Jackson, Gbinije,

Memphis trade s&t j. Green, (3yrs 40 milish)
Receive Chandler Barton

Memphis needs help with shooting on the wing. They have a glut of bigs so moving one who's about to get paid might not hurt so bad.

Denver gets the pg they need but still need to move faried. I can't see it happening without adding a first... maybe add a first +faried to Detroit for Leuer?

Detroit could use a pf who plays D, shoots open 3s and does the dirty work. ish smith, Galloway and mudiay can hold down the pg position until something better turns up.

08 Jul 2017 13:17:23
Reggie Jackson isn't good, ball dominant, one of worst defenders at pg (Nuggets were one of worst defensive teams in the league), his teammates hate him, he is overpaid and not sure he even has positive trade value.

Denver shouldn't give up anywhere close to that much for him. They'd be much better going after Bledsoe who has health concerns but is a borderline top 10 pg and elite defender (while still 20 ppg scorer) when healthy.

Green isn't worth that much normally and Grizzlies certainly aren't getting that type of return in a sign and trade.

08 Jul 2017 00:02:08
The Cavs get Gasol, Parsons, Ennis, 2020 1st, and a 2nd

Grizzlies get Love, Shumpert, Jefferson, and Fry

The Cavs get a center that can control the middle of the floor and help their defense. A few pieces that could help them make another move down the line. They have to take on Parsons's contract, but if he can be even remotely healthy his shooting and length would be a big plus for them.

Memphis gets a true number one scoring option who is in his prime. They also end up with 3 contracts that for all intent and purposes are expiring giving them money to spend next year to further fill out their roster.

08 Jul 2017 04:30:45
great trade makes a lot of sense for both teams👍🏾.

08 Jul 2017 15:11:40
I don't see Cavs winning with their current roster and I believe they need to trade Love to shake things up. With Cavs recent signing of Jeff Green I could potentially see them taking this risk.

Getting Gasol adds another level to their game and with his shooting ability its not completely impossible to play him and Thompson together. Parsons is highly skilled and I think worth the risk since he is a very versatile player who'd ideally start at the forward spot with Lebron. James Ennis is also a guy who'd be part of the rotation and could give some shooting off the bench.

For the Grizzlies I think their roster has about capped out and they'll have an uphill battle making playoffs in a loaded west. Adding Love gets them a little younger without losing star power and I think Love will be much improved as the #1/ #2 option and with Conley as a more natural pg who can get him involved.

 
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