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20 Jul 2017 11:34:33
Knicks Get: Wesley Matthews, Cole Aldrich, Devin Harris, 2019 Warriors 2nd (via Mavericks), 2021 Cavs 1st, 2023 Heat 2nd (via Mavericks)

Mavericks Get: Kevin Love

Cavaliers Get: Carmelo Anthony, 2018 Timberwolves 2nd

Timberwolves Get: Iman Shumpert

20 Jul 2017 12:00:57
Again and again, Cavs not going to deal Love for Melo.

20 Jul 2017 13:12:34
I don't know about that anymore USA. If LBJ really is unhappy about the team's current direction, and Gilbert wants to keep him in town long term, they may be willing to do something as drastic as move Love with Melo being the key piece coming back. I'm not saying they should, just that backs against the wall, it could happen.

20 Jul 2017 13:52:11
And mavs don't get love for that crap package.

20 Jul 2017 17:47:19
Triangle O, if Lebron wanted Melo for Love to happen, I think it would have been done a long time ago.

In this trade the Cavs give up the most valuable piece in Love and then add a 1st round pick to it (depending on the Lebron it could be a fairly valuable pick) . There is no way the Cavs give up all that even if there was competition for Melo, but with him only willing to go to Houston or Cleveland, why would the Cavs throw all that out for Melo. The Rockets are most likely offering a bad contract, either Ariza or expiring contracts, and what will be a late first or 2. Even if he would be willing to go to Portland, a bad contract would have to be involved.

If I'm the Cavs I'm offering Shumpert, Frye, Jefferson, Felder, Tavares, and the 21 first lottery protected. If that doesn't work o well.

12 Jul 2017 07:08:58
Cleveland Cavs Moves

•Cavs-Suns trade
Cavs get Tyson Chandler, lesser of it's and Miami's 2021 1st, and saves money
Suns get Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye, and better of Cleveland and Miami's 2021 1st

-Chandler gives the team a great veteran backup who can come in for Tristan Thompson and offer needed size, rebounding, and defense

-Sign Thabo Sefolosha 1yr minimum
-Sign Monta Ellis 1yr minimum
-Bring over Cedi Osman

Lineup:
PG: Irving, Calderon, Felder
SG: Smith, Korver, Ellis
SF: James, Sefolosha, Osman
PF: Love, Green, Jefferson
C: Thompson, Chandler, Tavares.

12 Jul 2017 13:29:47
I guess it works if they are able to get Sefolosha to replace Shumpert perimeter defense since otherwise the net of trade is zero. They could also just sign somebody like Tiago Splitter for the minimum.

12 Jul 2017 14:33:34
The only way the Cavs do this is if they get the first outright. They save some money, but their main concern right now is creating a roster that makes Lebron stay.

12 Jul 2017 16:39:50
Y'all do realize Chandler is 7'1, and averaged 8 points and 11 rebounds this past year? He is great Tristan Thompson insurance and he can play 15 minutes per game. He's also a great veteran and gives the team good size.

12 Jul 2017 19:32:07
NBA, yeah he's still a decent player, but can he even play against a team like the Warriors? If he were still a center that could control the middle of the floor and make up for the Cavs lackluster perimeter defenders than it would be a no brainer, but he can't anymore. The Cavs the Cavs need better perimeter defenders and they give up their 2nd best one for a player who can't match up with the only team the Cavs care about matching up with. They could get similiar production from players they could get for the minimum.

08 Jul 2017 16:59:56
I really do think the Heat have had a great Plan B. They brought back almost their whole team and I think Olynyk is a great fit beside Bam in the 2nd group. Here's some remaining moves to round out their roster

-Sign Ramon Sessions 1yr 4m
-Re-sign Luke Babbitt 1yr 3m

Lineup:
PG: Dragic, Johnson, Sessions
SG: Waiters, Richardson, Ellington
SF: Winslow, McGruder, Babbitt
PF: Johnson, Adebayo, White
C: Whiteside, Olynyk, Hammons.

08 Jul 2017 19:41:32
I mean Heat are now in that basketball hell where they will surely make playoffs but aren't going to be good enough to get out of the first round. They just filled up most of their cap space too and don't have any extremely promising young talent. They are likely going to be stuck here for next 3-4 years and maybe sneak into 2nd round one of those years. When Dragic and Whiteside get old and their contracts start coming off the books they can try and do another fast rebuild by signing FA but they likely fail to do so with no star player already in place and go back to gutter and depending on ping pong balls.

09 Jul 2017 03:04:59
we should sign rondo instead of sessions and shabazz muhammad instead of babbitt.

06 Jul 2017 05:59:49
Pacers-Spurs-Suns

Pacers get Brandon Knight and a 2nd rd pick from Suns

Spurs get Thad Young, Kevin Seraphin, and Miami's 2018 1st (via Suns)

Suns get Lamarcus Aldridge.

06 Jul 2017 10:28:28
For Pacers i guess its alright getting a younger player who can play combo guard and has shown upside prior to his injuries.

For the Spurs don't think its great value for Aldridge and they really need a 2nd option for Kawhi. Aldridge hasn't been that great in that role but Young would be even worse.

For the Suns its great value. With the way FA has gone Heat should make the playoffs in a weak east so their pick won't be in the lottery and Knight didn't look great recently. However, not certain its the best idea since they should likely be taking the slow and steady route and trying to develop Chriss and Bender.

05 Jul 2017 17:41:51
HEATs offeason
Heat : clarkson, randle
lakers : dragic, green
grizzlies : babbitt, robinson

Heat:
- sign rudy gay and grievis vasquez
- resign j johnson, waiters, haslem, ellington
- let reed walk and stretch mcroberts

clarkson/t johnson/vasquez
Waiters/richardson/ellington
gay/winslow/mcgruder
randle/j johnson/white
Whiteside/adebayo/haslem

05 Jul 2017 19:53:52
Doesn't make sense for Lakers who aren't looking to add salary past this season since they have Lebron pipe dreams.

05 Jul 2017 15:06:45
Instead of Minnesota trading Aldrich and the OKC first to Indiana in a sign and trade for Miles, they should try to trade Aldrich to Atlanta.

Minnesota would get a protected future 2nd round pick

Atlanta gets Aldrich, Miami's 2019 2nd round pick, and Minnesota removes the lottery protection on the 2018 1st they owe Atlanta.

Minnesota gets cap space to sign Miles outright and keep that 2018 OKC 1st
Atlanta takes a chance on Minnesota missing the playoffs in loaded West while also getting a future 2nd round pick.

05 Jul 2017 17:24:54
I don't think that's worth it for the Hawks since Minnesota will probably make the playoffs anyway, so the pick would convey, and that second round pick isn't enough to take on Aldrich.

05 Jul 2017 18:49:36
Doesn't Minnesota get a $14 million trade exemption from the Ricky Rubio trade. Why can't they use that to do a sign and trade for CJ Miles and send Indiana a second round pick?

05 Jul 2017 22:03:11
ILD. I asked that to. I guess it's because Minnesota was under the cap so they didn't get a trade exception.

05 Jul 2017 19:48:12
Or just get miles because they need 3 point shooting. another great trade carl you are brilliant.

04 Jul 2017 22:33:28
Bucks get Rose (s&t) Noah Plu
Knicks get Henson Dellavedova McRoberts Ellington
Heat get Teletovic O'Quinn

Brogdon/Rose/Paytonjr
Giannis/Middleton/Vaughn
Parker/Snell/Beasley
Maker/Wilson/Hawes
Monroe/Noah/Plumlee

Dellavedova/MCW/Ntilikina
Lee/Ellington/Randle
Thomas/Kuzminkas/Dotson
Melo/Henson/McRoberts
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Kournet

04 Jul 2017 23:31:33
The Bucks say No.

03 Jul 2017 22:50:45
HEATs offeason
Heat : lamarcus aldridge
Spurs : dragic, mcroberts

Heat:
- sign hayward, rondo, and london perrantes
- resign j johnson, waiters, haslem, ellington
- let babbitt and reed walk

Rondo/t johnson/perrantes
Waiters/richardson/ellington
Hayward/winslow/mcgruder
Aldridge/j johnson/white
Whiteside/adebayo/haslem

04 Jul 2017 01:02:52
I don't see the spurs taking on another Guard and for his contract.

04 Jul 2017 04:46:31
1NBA fan, the Spurs desperately need a starting pg. Parker was below average this year and who knows how he'll be after coming back. Dragic is a borderline allstar.

04 Jul 2017 14:57:20
exactly i'm a heat fan and i know dragic will fit in perfectly w the spurs.

03 Jul 2017 12:13:48
Lakers get McRoberts Ellington Thomas
Knicks get Deng
Heat get Noah O'Quinn Kuzma Hart Ny 2018 2nd

Lakers clear 2/3 of Deng salary for Hart Kuzma

Ball/Clarkson/Nwaba
Brewer/Young/Ellington
Ingram/Thomas
Randle/NanceJr/McRoberts
Lopez/Zubac/Bryant

Knicks cut 10 mil in payroll to sign Hill 3yr 50 mil and MCW 4yr 16 mil for MLE

Hill/MCW/Ntilikina
Lee/Dotson/Randle
Melo/Kuzminkas/Hayes
Porzingis/Deng/Inglis
Plumlee/Hernangomez/Kournet

Gay 1yr 20mil Waiters 1yr 15mil
Heat add front court depth gain 3 prospect for adding 8 mil in salary.
Dragic/Johnson/McCruder
Waiters/Richardson/Hart
Gay/Winslow/Babbitt
O'Quinn/Kuzma/White
Whiteside/Noah/Adebayo

03 Jul 2017 15:30:53
Why would the Heat do this?

02 Jul 2017 06:33:54
Cavs Moves (If Melo is bought out)

-Sign Carmelo Anthony 1yr MLE

-Trade Kevin Love and Iman Shumpert to Phoenix for Brandon Knight, Jared Dudley, and Miami's 2018 1st

-Re-sign Kyle Korver 2yr 15m (player option on 2nd year)
-Bring over Cedi Osman
-Sign Andrew Bogut 1yr minimum

Lineup:
PG: Irving, Knight, Felder
SG: Smith, Korver, Calderon
SF: James, Dudley, Osman
PF: Anthony, Frye, Jefferson
C: Thompson, Bogut, Tavares

The added offense should help LeBron focus more on defensive end on Durant.

02 Jul 2017 13:39:07
The trade is terrible for the Cavs.

02 Jul 2017 17:32:47
Phil Jackson is gone Melo does not get bought out.

01 Jul 2017 09:48:47
This offseason for pistons isn't going to start or end well. Sign KCP than what? Got to make trades and add more shooters.

Heat-Pistons


Pistons trade Harris

Heat trade Tyler johnson Mcbob Ellington.

01 Jul 2017 13:27:29
we not trading ellington and tj for harris lol.

29 Jun 2017 23:58:09
Fits

Paul Milsap - Toronto

Blake Griffin - Miami

Andre Iguodala - Minnesota TWolves

29 Jun 2017 03:58:42
If Heat able to sign Hayward

Heat-Pacers

Heat acquire P George & T Young

Pacers acquire J Winslow , J McRoberts , W Ellington , top 10 protected 1st & 2nd round pick

Heat

Dragic-T Johnson
Hayward-Richardson
George-McGruder
Young-J Johnson
Whiteside-Adebayo

> pretty nice starting unit with young exciting bench guys

29 Jun 2017 07:14:58
I thought the Heat should've made an aggressive move like this prior to the draft and included their #14 pick and Winslow as a centerpiece for George which would've in turn made them a lot more attractive to Hayward and at same time hurt Celtics.

I think Miami will be a distant 3rd in the race to sign Hayward since they aren't nearly as good as Celtics and Utah can offer him the face of a promising team that he's grown up with. The only thing Miami really has going for it is the Miami night life.

Trading for George beforehand could change this but it would get tricky from a salary cap point of view even if they didn't add Young too (They won't be able to add Young and sign Hayward) . Heat probably wouldn't be able to resign James Johnson either.

The Heat's two best players are relatively old in Dragic and Whiteside and neither Adebayo or Winslow look like they'll be anything more than role players so if I was Miami I'd role the dice and gamble big on George now with the hope it could help me sign Hayward or Griffin or somebody since the alternative I see Heat just being a mediocre team that won't be bad and will be in playoff contention but even if they make it won't get past the first round (aka basketball hell) .

28 Jun 2017 22:55:28
Rockets Get: Chris Paul

Clippers Get: Patrick Beverley, Sam Dekker, Lou Williams, Darrun Hilliard, DeAndre Liggins, Kyle Wiltjer, Montrezl Harrell and a 2018 top 3 protected 1st


I don't think the Clippers are done making moves.


Suns Get: DeAndre Jordan

Clippers Get: Tyson Chandler, 2018 Miami 1st, 2018 Suns 2nd, 2018 Raptors 2nd


Cavs Get: Jamal Crawford

Clippers Get: Iman Shumpert, Channing Frye, 2020 Trail Blazers 2nd


P. Beverley/A. Rivers
L. Williams/I. Shumpert/D. Hilliard
S. Dekker/W. Johnson/D. Liggins
C. Frye/B. Johnson/K. Wiltjer
T. Chandler/M. Harrell/D. Stone


LA would probably finish with a top 5 pick and can hope for Luka Doncic, DeAndre Ayton,
Mohamed Bamba, Michael Porter Jr. or Robert Williams.

29 Jun 2017 00:08:22
Considering the Clippers almost lost CP3 for nothing, they made out like bandits.

29 Jun 2017 00:11:22
Why would the Cavs want Crawford over Shumpert? They need length and defense, not a volume scorer. Not to mention that Crawford is signed longer for more money and his numbers have declined each of the past 4 years. The Clippers will have to give up a pick to get rid of Crawford.

29 Jun 2017 03:27:43
I think that's great value for the Suns on Jordan but not sure if that team is quite ready for him especially with him not signed long term. I'd try and deal him to the Bucks who I think are one of the best teams with holes at center.

Don't like that trade for the Cavs. Shumperts defense is more important than what Crawford would provide. They'd be much more interested in Beverley. I think Clippers should deal Beverley and Williams since both are relatively cheap veterans who should have decent value to good teams.

Clippers have a long rebuild ahead of them but so long as they finish in lottery in 2019 and 2020 they have all their first rounders (if doesn't convey turns into 2022 2nd rounder) and if they hit on a pick or two could likely draw some FA talent since it is LA after all.

29 Jun 2017 04:53:27
Blake is resigning. They are trying to get contracts that either expire after this season for cap room or trying to flip some guys for a star.

28 Jun 2017 05:51:48
Cavs Offseason
(If Melo is bought out)

-Trade Kevin Love and Imma Shumpert to Phoenix for Tyson Chandler, Jared Dudley, and Miami 2018 1st

•Free Agency:
-Sign Carmelo Anthony 1yr minimum
-Re-sign Kyle Korver 2yr 18m
-Re-sign Deron Williams 1yr MLE

Lineup:
PG: Irving, Williams, Felder.

28 Jun 2017 06:11:08
Love struggles but they can get more than that.

28 Jun 2017 06:17:05
So the Cavs trade an allstar and a their 6th man (and second best perimeter defender) for 2 bench players and a pick that might not even be in the lottery?

28 Jun 2017 06:27:51
That is pretty awful value for Love. Suns don't have too many ready to contribute pieces that Cavs would be interested in so I think they'd be better off dealing Love to another team or at least bringing in a 3rd team (Suns would need to give up some of their young talent tho) .

27 Jun 2017 20:00:10
HEATs offeason
Heat : lamarcus aldridge, mills (s&t)
Spurs : dragic, mcroberts,okaro white

Heat:
- sign hayward, terrence jones, london perrantes
- resign j johnson, waiters, haslem, ellington
- let babbitt and reed walk

mills/t johnson/perrantes
waiters/richardson/ellington
Hayward/winslow/mcgruder
aldridge/j johnson/jones
Whiteside/adebayo/haslem

28 Jun 2017 05:02:16
dragic, hayward, and whiteside is better than aldridge, hayward, and whiteside.

27 Jun 2017 07:13:50
Wolves-Heat

Wolves get Dragic , McRoberts (waive)

Heat get Rubio , Aldrich , 2nd rd pick

26 Jun 2017 16:10:25
Rest of Minnesota's offseason

Trade Cole Aldrich, a 2018 2nd round pick (from Minnesota) and a 2019 2nd round pick (from Miami) to Brooklyn for KJ McDaniels

Minnesota can then choose not to pick up McDaniels option and save 7+ million or keep him as a bench guy and save 4+ million.

Free agents:

Patrick Patterson - 4 years, 40 million
CJ Miles - 2 years, 12 million
PJ Tucker - 3 years, 21 million

Rubio/Jones
Wiggins/Miles
Butler/Tucker
Patterson/Bjelica
Towns/Dieng.

26 Jun 2017 16:56:36
McDaniels is now UFA.

27 Jun 2017 00:49:11
I agree this is the type of deal MIN might consider.

Aldrich gets $7.3 mil this year, and a $6.9 mil team option ($2 mil guaranteed), so the contract isn't horrible, and BRK might even get some use out of the guy.

MIN can use more cap space.

You just need to find a different player.

25 Jun 2017 22:53:22
Knicks get R.Anderson Harkless Beverly McRoberts
Heat get Melo Noah
Rockets get Bosh Turner Leonard
Blazers get Gordon Ellington O'Quinn

Heat give up no prospects or picks for Melo by taking Noah salary which will be the only big behind Melo and Whiteside under contract.

Blazers cut payroll add more shooter

Rockets cut future payroll risk 1yr on Bosh

Knicks get descent for Melo and O'Quinn

26 Jun 2017 01:57:07
Bosh was bought out.

26 Jun 2017 03:16:13
Portland has zero interest in that return of low impact junk even in salary dump (Turner and Leonard) and particularly not for big upside Harkless. Bosh is not part of Miami and therefore can't be involved in any trade as per the May 24 agreement. And Houston would be offended by this proposal.

25 Jun 2017 07:24:31
Miami Heat offseason

Sign
Gordan Haywood 4 yr max
Paul Millsapp 4 yr 80 mill

Re sign
James Johnson
Wayne Ellinghton


2017/18 lineup

Goran Dragic/Tyler Johnson
Wayne Ellinghton/Paul Richardson
Gordan Haywood/Justice Winslow
Paul Millsapp/James Johnson
Hassan Whiteside/Bam Adeboyo

25 Jun 2017 07:30:57
Too much $$$.

25 Jun 2017 11:05:17
josh richardson*
hayward*.

25 Jun 2017 13:50:05
Millsap will probably make a lot more than that.

25 Jun 2017 15:40:36
Move Tyler Johnson and his poison pill contract and you get closer to getting Hayward and Millsap (at closer to $25-$30M per) .

 
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