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17 Aug 2018 06:55:48
Spurs get: Whiteside, Winslow
Heat get: Gasol, Mills, Toronto 2019 st.

Heat get to move on from Whiteside, Solid backup big, solid backup PG, and 1st pick.

Spurs get upgrade at Center, upgrade at backup SF.

17 Aug 2018 08:37:17
I like this move for miami.

Talent wise, this is a steal for the Spurs, but i'm not sure they want Whiteside.

16 Aug 2018 22:17:56
4 team Whiteside trade:

Bucks send: Snell
Receive: Jr Smith
Smith is an upgrade in the short term, and can be sold as a large expiring or waived to create additional cap space next offseason.

Heat send: Whiteside
Receive: TT, Ajinca (waive), '19 & 2x '21 2nds
Get a cheaper backup C who will be less of a headache, also get some 2nds to restock their tradable assets. This move is all about ushering in the era of Bam.

Pels send: Ajinca, '19 & '21 2nds
Receive: Korver
Add some much needed shooting and dump an unused C.

Cavs send: TT, Korver, Smith, '21 2nd
Receive: Whiteside, Snell
Upgrade a C and is a good fit next to Love. Also get a younger prospect to groom into their next 3&D wing

13 Aug 2018 06:26:30

MIA get Reggie Jackson, Tristan Thompson, Stanley Johnson, 2nd round pick from CLE & 1st round pick (protected) from DET
- they take almost same amount of money but gain a young player and some assets. Jackson could thrive under MIA system and be an effective point guard for them

Pg Jackson/T.Johnson
Sg Wade/Waiters/McGruder
Sf S.Johnson/Ellington
Pf J.Johnson/Olynyk
Ce Adebayo/Thompson

CLE get Hassan Whiteside
- get a rim protector

Pg Sexton/Hill
Sg Smith/Clarkson/Nwaba
Sf Hood/Osman/Dekker
Pf Love/Nance
Ce Whiteside/Zizic

DET get Goran Dragic & Kyle Korver
- get guards who can shoot well and fit the team

Pg Dragic/Smith/Calderon
Sg Kennard/Galloway/Thomas
Sf Korver/Bullock/GR3
Pf Griffin/Ellenson
Ce Drummond/Pachulia

13 Aug 2018 11:53:48

13 Aug 2018 05:40:18
This seems fair only if Porzingis announces he will back after December

C's get Porzingis Waiters Mudiay
Heat get Kanter Hardaway
NY get Irving Whiteside Yubesele Ojeleye



Kings get Lee Noah Kornet 2019 1st
Knicks get Shumpert Randolph Koufos


13 Aug 2018 10:17:55
Irving is NOT going to be traded. Can't understand why people think he will be. SMH Even if he walks at the end if the season they will ride this team all the ways to the finals, if they make it that far. Why would they not let it play out to see if they can win a title in Boston.
The people who will disagree with this are either dreamers or fools.

13 Aug 2018 11:50:17
JoeB- if trader Danny thinks he is going for nothing he is going to get traded.

13 Aug 2018 14:14:31
Wait, you are a knicks fan and you have Knox as a shooting guard?

Again, you probably should watch basketball at some point.

13 Aug 2018 18:20:51
Nobody agree with you letsgoknicks fan bc 19, he can play sg position. Knicks coach already said they want to play bigger than anybody. he will experiment knox at 2 porzingis 3 and Kornet 4. Even if you play hezonja or shumpert at 2 and Knox and Ojeleye at 3, it makes no diferrence who starts, its how you finish. Their front court is built like a defensive wall. So knicks can create a mismatches offensively at 2. Read an article on knicks plans is too play bigger than anybody, come out of your grandma's basement.

14 Aug 2018 10:17:19
Shillwe, if you think Ainge will pull the plug on a Championship season because he thinks Irving will leave, you don't know Ainge or basketball.
Only way Ainge would do that is, if tbe Celtics are a lottery team.
I don't think anyone on the planet thinks that will happen. Lol.

14 Aug 2018 18:08:00
Shizzee, think about this logically, if you can.
What team would trade major assets for Irving if, as reported, is going to NY or Brooklyn?
Answer: no oNE
Why would the Knicks or Nets want to trade for Irving, giving up major assets, when they can sign him as a free agent?
Ainge wouldn't trade him for an inferior package. He would hold onto him and run out the season and hopefully they win the title.
Ainge is NOT afraid of a player walking in free agency.
Plus, It's been reported that Ainge is really confident that he can resign him.

12 Aug 2018 21:06:49
Cleveland: H whiteside

Miami: K Korver+ t Thompson+ 2rnd pick

12 Aug 2018 23:25:56
I think the fires have cooled in the last week since that was announced.

13 Aug 2018 00:11:59
Kardashian curse can't even get you whiteside.

13 Aug 2018 02:51:37
Shizzee, it’s a real rumor. What’s your weird obsession with the Cavs?

13 Aug 2018 22:57:00
Uhhhh really rkenne_16? Shizzee is the worse basketball fan ever he wants the Knicks to have all defense and no offense, his trades are so ridiculous I’ve found time out of my day to make fun of him! And you’re asking why?

10 Aug 2018 18:22:44
Spurs get Whiteside, Winslow

Heat get Gasol, Mills, Toronto 2019 1st.

Spurs upgrade at center. add backup SF. They are officially out of 2019 free agent bloodbath.

Heat get rid of Whiteside (contract), backup PG which they don't have now. They have a shot at participating in 2019 free agency bloodbath if they buyout Gasol and trade Mills in offseason.

10 Aug 2018 19:14:03
Heat have waiters and dragic already.

10 Aug 2018 22:17:54
Waiters is not a point guard, he is starting SG. Mills can backup both guard positions.

11 Aug 2018 01:32:18
I still think the heat need more in return, or less patty mills.

10 Aug 2018 08:23:32
cle: Winslow+ Adebayo+ T Johnson

Miami: K Love

C: Whiteside
PF: K Love
PG: Dragic

C: Adebayo
Pf:Nance Jr/zizic
SF: winslow
SG: Osman
Pg: Sexton

Miami stays competitive for a few more years

Cleveland get young players they can develop.

10 Aug 2018 09:11:52
Kevin Love for noah Deng or Anderson. Former over paid allstars for former over paid star. Take your choice and none of those teams will take him and his 5 yrs.

10 Aug 2018 14:04:47
That's a pretty steep asking price for love coming from the cavs.

10 Aug 2018 15:26:28
I can’t tell who’s worse: Shizzee about Love, or Supercollider about Melo.

Either way, seriously, move on, we get it.

11 Aug 2018 05:52:51
Bam and Winslow are big parts of the heat future no wayyy.

11 Aug 2018 06:00:14
lol bmiller true that.

10 Aug 2018 07:27:47
Remaining Cavs moves:

Trade 1;
NY send: THJ
Receive: Shumpert (Exp)
Gain additional cap space, and improve this years draft pick

Kings send: Shumpert
Receive: Smith, '20 2nd
Pick and a large semi expiring to use next offseason.

Cavs send: Smith, '20 2nd
Receive: THJ
Improve their youth movement and reload with some talent

Trade 2;
Heat send: Whiteside
Receive: Thompson, Ajinca (waive), '19 2nd, 2x '21 2nd
Let the era of Bam begin, add some much needed picks and clean up the cap sheet

Pels send: Ajinca, '19 & '21 2nd
Receive: Korver
Get a shooter to space the floor for Davis

Cavs send: Thompson, Korver, '21 2nd
Receive: Whiteside
Lets love move back to PF, add more over priced talent.

Resign Hood 3y 15m/y Third year TO

PG: Hill, Sexton
SG: Hood, Clarkson, Nwaba
SF: THJ, Osman, Dekker
PF: Love, Frye
C: Whiteside, Nance, Zizic

Could see the team finishing anywhere between 5-10 in the East

10 Aug 2018 21:09:30
I think Villanova or Duke could beat that team.

10 Aug 2018 00:24:12
Heat recieve-Tristan Thompson,Jordan Clarkson,Kyle krover

Cavs recieve Hassan Whiteside,James Johnson,2x seconds

10 Aug 2018 09:14:59
No matter bad u think miami wants to toss whiteside, the kardashian curse is worse.

09 Aug 2018 02:35:39
Miami Heat: Ishmael Smith; Blake Griffin

Goran Dragic
Dion Waiters
Josh Richardson
Blake Griffin
Hassan Whitesside

Detroit Pistons:Tyler Johnson; Justise Winslow; James Johnson

Tyler Johnson
Luke Kennard
Justise Winslow
James Johnson
Andre Drummond

09 Aug 2018 09:07:49
I can see both teams do this.

Miami get a star player and Detroit get more flexibility and a young talent.

10 Aug 2018 01:15:18
Gasupo- who is the star?

10 Aug 2018 02:31:44
Idk if Detroit does this tyler johnson is a decent player but way overpaid winslow has some potential and value and Johnson is 31 and not worth much either.

08 Aug 2018 22:24:59
Heat get Kanter Thomas Koufos
Nets get Whiteside Noah Lee
Kings get Hardaway Olynyk
Knicks get Carroll Randolph Faried Shumpert Dudley Arthur

Knicks save the most money get worst talent in return


Heat save 2nd most money and descent return with only 1 mil guarenteed next yr.


Kings get best offensive return, take future salary


Nets take the most future salary for 1 more additional yr but have chance to be playoff after a 15 yrs layoff. Than


08 Aug 2018 23:59:38
Knicks should add Knox and Porzingis.

09 Aug 2018 00:16:14
So, the Knicks trade all their garbage for expiring contracts without giving anything up of value. It doesn’t matter how many teams you involve or which teams are involved, this trade is never going to make sense. They’re going to have to give up picks or young talent to get rid of their crap just like any other team.

09 Aug 2018 03:31:38
Love for noah makes more sense rkenne.

09 Aug 2018 05:03:43
Shizzee give it up man.

09 Aug 2018 19:33:30
Nets have clearly stated they are clearing as much money as possible to make a run at a couple of max FA’s next year. Why in God’s name would they make this deal?

10 Aug 2018 01:17:24
Brooklyn wants two max slots next year. They aren't taking contracts on.

08 Aug 2018 17:12:26
Heat trade - Whieside and Winslow
Clips trade - Gortat Teodosic and Robinson


Winslow/Mbah a Moute

08 Aug 2018 18:00:22
This is as good a trade as Miami is likely to get for Whiteside. However, by trading for Whiteside, Clippers take themselves out of the Kawhi Leonard sweepstakes by using up their cap space for 2019. They still belive they can get him in free agency. Also, they may lose Harris to free agency in 2019. I think the clippers will wait until 2019 to see how free agency goes and then try to upgrade their roster to make a run at championship or blow up the team and start from scratch.

I don't think Clippers make this deal because of Whiteside's salary in 2019.

08 Aug 2018 18:08:12
no from la. neither of those guys are worth compromising their cap next summer (whiteside turning down his po would be shocking)
winslow’s rfa could be a nice backup plan, but i think they’d rather stick with robinson, they did just reach for him with the 13th pick.

08 Aug 2018 18:48:33
Whiteside if he can put it together this season could be tradeable next summer probably without costing assets. Miami is stuck with him for a while.

09 Aug 2018 00:09:36
The clippers would have just resigned Jordan then! It’s pointless.

08 Aug 2018 05:15:12
Whiteside trade:

Cha receive: Whiteside
Send: Biyombo, MKG, '19 1st pick swap (worse)
Move back in the draft to upgrade their C position and trim salary

Heat receive: MKG, Shumpert, '19 1st pick swap (better)
Send: Whiteside, Winslow, '20 2nd
Rid themselves of a headache, clear C mins for Bam and move up in the draft

Kings receive: Biyombo, Winslow, '20 2nd
Send: Shumpert
Use an expiring and cap space to bring in a prospect and a future pick

08 Aug 2018 14:10:41
Whiteside better than mkg and biyombo won't opt out of 19 mil per yr he will never see again.

07 Aug 2018 21:27:40
Spurs and Heat trade:

Spurs get Hassan Whiteside, Justise Winslow

Heat get: Pau Gasol, Patty Mills, Toronto 2019 1st pick (protected)

Both teams are capped out for 2019 free agency barring big moves, so this deal means they are set for two years.

Spurs get rebounder and rim protector and backup SF in Winslow on rookie deal. This deal would make SA contenders for the next two years.

Heat get rid of Whiteshide and his contract. Attitude problems stem from too many centers. Heat can concentrate on Olynick and Adabayo, Gasol can play PF and won't pout about playing time. Heat only have 1 PG on their roster. Mills is top tier backup PG. They also get Toronto's pick in 2019, unless they fold or Kawhi doesn't play.

08 Aug 2018 00:30:46
I think it is an ok deal could be better, but might could happen. I do t think the spurs would want Whiteside though. I don't think Whiteside and Aldridge in the locker room together would be a good idea.

08 Aug 2018 03:37:49
Spurs won't give that puck.

08 Aug 2018 12:04:32
I think pop would kick Whiteside to the kerbside no more trades happening with spurs.

08 Aug 2018 17:08:13
Thanks for the comments. I just have a few thoughts on your objections to this deal.

Spurs owe it to LMA to be competitive. This deal would be largely for his benefit. Spurs are not competitive with Gasol as starting center and Poeltl is not ready for that role yet. Aldridge is a quiet leader and would get along with just about anyone who helps the team. Whiteside's complaints with Heat are about playing time. He would get lot's of playing time at center with Spurs so he should be happy.

Whiteside just played with coach Messina in Africa and had great things to say about him. Pop would make the situation work, I disagree with the notion of kicking him to the kerbside.

Spurs will have two late 1st round picks next year and they still need to bring over euro-stash project Nicola Mulatinov. They don't need Toronto's pick unless they use it with their own pick to move up in the draft. Even then, they really don't need more youngsters right now.

I do agree that the Spurs don't like to make too many changes and they like the current roster. However, this deal would be too good to pass up and would make them competitive for the next two years. If they stay put, the Spurs will not be able to do anything in free agency next year to upgrade the team, because of Gasol and Mills contracts.

08 Aug 2018 18:24:56
wholly disagree this would make the spurs contenders.

07 Aug 2018 17:03:09
I am a Thunder fan but I'm not an person I know this trade would never happen i was messing around and was surprised when it said the warriors would win 1 more game so I figured I'd share.
Four teams Thunder, Warriors, Wizards, Heat

Thunder add Thompson, Whiteside, Jason Smith
Lose Adams, Roberson, Schroder, Ferguson, and 2 2nd round picks. +6 wins

Warriors add Adams, Morris, Oubre Jr, Ferguson, Wizard protected 1st and thunder 2nd round pick
Lose Thompson, Green. +1 win

Wizards add Green
Lose Morris, Oubre Jr, Smith, protected 1st
+2 wins

Heat add Schroder, Roberson, Thunder 2nd
Lose Whiteside -10 wins

Again i know this trade will never happen I was just messing around on the ESPN trade machine trying to make OKC better. When I did this I figured warriors projected wins would go way down but it actually went up by 1.
The only part of this trade I think could happen even though they get -wins would be Whiteside for Schroder, Roberson and a 2nd just because the heat don't want him in the locker room, and Schroder is decent and could replace dragic as he is getting older, and I don't think they would get much better of an offer for him.
If this crazy trade did happen thunder would have a great big 3 with Westbrook, George, and Thompson even though they lose Roberson and Adams they keep a good defense.

07 Aug 2018 17:38:36
Yeah, the trade machine numbers can't always be trusted. The problem with the trade machine is that it is based on win shares, so you're comparing 4 players to 2.

07 Aug 2018 19:27:13
I said i d i o t not person at the beginning I guess it filtered it or something.

07 Aug 2018 23:52:56
Trade machine had the Sabonis/ oladipo for George trade making the pacers 20+ some games worse i honestly don’t remember the real numbers but it was way wrong.

08 Aug 2018 05:24:37
In all fairness, Oladipo was the most improved player and Sabonis had a break out season. If those two produced at the rate they did the year before, they would have been -20 wins. Trade machine can’t factor in growth.

08 Aug 2018 05:25:13
Madeindade28 I don't think anyone expected them to be as good as they where last year. For once both teams actually won the trade. But yea I know the estimations are way off I just wanted to post this to show how off they can be.

08 Aug 2018 14:16:41
Why would warriors do that?

08 Aug 2018 17:36:12
Why would the Warriors even consider this? The Warriors get worse and make the Thunder better. The only way they trade Klay and Green is if it lands them someone like AD and even that might not make sense for them. They aren’t going to trade those guys for late picks and spare parts. I doubt they would trade one of those guys for that package let alone both. They’re far and away the best team in the league and the gap got bigger this offseason. Someone would have to make a ridiculous offer for them to break that team up.

07 Aug 2018 14:00:33
Heat trade: Whiteside
Receive: Henson, Bayless (Waive / Buyout), 2x '20 2nds
Get below the tax line this year, Henson gives you some of what Whiteside does with no headache. Also clears 14m cap space next year.

Sixers trade: Bayless, '20 2nd
Receive: Delly
Get rid of Bayless and get a solid role player in return. Delly offers good complementary defence and shooting to a finals hopeful roster.

Bucks trade: Henson, Delly, '20 2nd
Receive: Whiteside
Get the rebounding and shot blocking they lacked last year. Dive deeper into tax but don't give up the world.

07 Aug 2018 14:21:18
Delly has negative value. I can’t see the 76ers trading an expiring and a 2nd for him. Not to mention, the 76ers have Simmoms, Fultz, and McConnell that will all spend time at point. They don’t need Delly.

07 Aug 2018 15:25:40
Delly is absolutely useless to the sixers, short or long term. Trade makes Zero sense for philly.

07 Aug 2018 15:49:02
I agree with all comments but, No one wants Whiteside OR his bad attitude, (On and off the court) and Overpaid contract.

08 Aug 2018 05:08:00
Latest rumor out of Milwaukee is The Bucks sending Henson, and Dellavedova plus a 2nd rd. pick to the Atlanta Hawks for Kent Bazemore.

08 Aug 2018 14:20:34
Torque, that's not you bazemore. They want expiring contracts maybe bazemore for shumpert.

08 Aug 2018 15:03:57
But MIL already has 13 guards.

05 Aug 2018 20:07:50

PHX gets Teague, Gibson and 2nd rd pick from MIN also sends Chander to MIA where gets waived but this makes it possible for PHX to create cap space for the upcoming free agency

MIN gets Whiteside, Warren, Richardson, Knight

MIA gets Dieng and Jimmy Butler

Teague/ Daniels
Booker/ Jackson
Ariza/ Bridges
Gibson/ Chriss
Ayton/ Len/ Bender

Wiggins/ Richardson
Warren/ Crawford
Karl Towns

Dragic/ Ty Johnson
Butler/ Wade
Waiters/ Winslow
James Johnson/ Dieng
Olnyk/ Bam Adebayo.

06 Aug 2018 03:25:19
Whiteside playing as backup to Kat is a funny thought. Whiteside would be demanding to be traded immediately, raising all sorts of hell.

06 Aug 2018 13:51:48
He doesn't have Whiteside backing up Towns. He has them both starting with Towns at the 4. It's an interesting concept. I'm not the biggest Whiteside guy, but he does bring some solid attributes for a big, and those should fit what Thibs likes to do. Towns probably has the mobility to get out to the line on defense, and on offense, he can match up on pretty much any 4 or 5, so that wouldn't be an issue.

06 Aug 2018 18:16:34
I think Minnesota would be a bad defensive team with towns and whiteside in at the same time. Fast breaked' to death and shot out of the building.

07 Aug 2018 14:04:54
Btec? KAT can play the four they both have two different games. A poor mans boogie and AD if you ask me.

08 Aug 2018 00:14:24
Could Minnesota even come close to affording that?

05 Aug 2018 12:05:17
Trade #1

Cleveland trades: Collin Sexton, J. R. Smith and Tristan Thompson

Orlando trades: Evan Fournier, Nikola Vucevic and '19 top 5 protected first round draft pick

Why for Cleveland? They acquire a couple of established players that fit into the roster plus a first round draft pick.

Why for Orlando? This is all about getting a very good prospect that could be their future at point guard.

I realize that frontcourt defense could be an issue, but I don't think Vucevic is a downgrade in that regard over Thompson.

Trade #2

Cleveland trades: George Hill

Miami trades: Goran Dragic

Why for Cleveland? This is about upgrading their point guard position and Dragic is a major upgrade over Hill.

Why for Miami? They shed a year off Dragic's contract in favor of Hill, who only has 1 million guaranteed for '19 - '20.

PG: Goran Dragic | Jordan Clarkson
SG: Evan Fournier
SF: Cedi Osman
PF: Kevin Love | Larry Nance
C: Nikola Vucevic | Ante Zizic
+ '19 first round draft pick from the Magic.

05 Aug 2018 14:35:10
Thompson and Smith have negative contacts. You don't get assets and a 1st for negative contracts and a 8th pick.

05 Aug 2018 15:28:17
Collin Sexton looks like he could be a future superstar.

05 Aug 2018 16:08:01
Thompson is a negative contract for sure. Smith’s contract fairly close to an expiring and Fournier’s contract is a lot worse than Smith’s given the length and not much better than than Tristan’s. I don’t think either team would be overly excited with the Cavs. They probably like Sexton more than most and the Magic wouldn’t want to give up a pick in a Vucevic deal. I don’t see it for either team.

05 Aug 2018 19:16:38
Fournier contact may be longer, but he's younger, a better defender, and would be a contributor on any team. Add that they are taking Thompson for a good exciting contract in vouch. Plus yes the magic need a PG. But they had an opportunity to draft Sexton if they thought he was the one. Not good for the magic at all.

05 Aug 2018 00:07:02
Heat get Kanter Hardaway
Mavs get Waiters Lee
Knicks get Whiteside Mathews Kleber-cut

Heat cut future salary while getting stronger offensively


Dallas has balance to compete for playoff


Whiteside Robinson Noah will allow ny to bench Porzingis all yr. Knicks will trade Whiteside Noah final yr to Dal for cap space in offseason when Jordan leaves.if that happen with Thomas 1 mil opt buyout, this will NY 96 mil cap space for 3 maxed out contracts 29 mil for Irving Butler 1st yr. Durant 38 mil in 1st yr. Before they resign Porzingis. Knicks trade 1st down for late 1st 2 2nd

Durant/Hezonja-mle split/Martin-2nd
Knox/Vonleh-mle split/Porter-2nd

03 Aug 2018 02:46:13
Thunder lack a solid backup SF and have several young players that can battle for the backup SG position Ferguson, TLC, Diallo so I think they should trade Alex Abrines using the TPE from Melo trade to get a solid SF for the bench. Most of the trades would make the luxury bill go up a lot but Thunder could cut, trade, or stretch Singler to make them cheaper and open a roster spot after the trade.

Thunder get Demarre Carroll
Nets get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd

Thunder get Marvin Williams
Hornets get Abrines

Thunder get Korver
Cavs get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd’s

Thunder get Bojan Bogdanovic
Pacers get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd’s

Thunder get Josh Richardson
Heat get Abrines, 2 2 nd’s

Thunder get Tony Snell
Bucks get Abrines

Thunder get Courtney Lee
Knicks get Abrines, 1 2nd if needed

Thunder get Jonathan Simmons
Magic get Abrines 2 2nd’s

Thunder get CJ Miles
Raptors get Abrines, a 2nd if needed

Thunder get Garrett Temple
Grizzlies get Abrines, a 2nd if needed

Thunder get E'Twaun Moore
Pelicans get Abrines, 1 or 2 2nd’s

Thunder get Jae Crowder
Jazz get Abrines, 2 2nds

At trade deadline if Ariza won't sign with sun's next year
Thunder get Ariza
Suns get Abrines, 1 or 2 seconds

Give me your opinions. Will any of these work?

03 Aug 2018 05:24:03
Can't include a TPE with a player.

03 Aug 2018 06:13:48
Dang I didn't realize that. Well ignore all of those.

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