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20 Jun 2017 22:07:28
4 way trade Suns Cavs Bulls Pacers

Cavs receive
George
Butler
Ellis
Dudley

Suns receive
Love
Lopez

Pacers receive
Knight
Chandler
Frye
2017 #4 pick from Suns
2021 1st round pick from Cleveland

Bulls Receive
Thompson
Al Jefferson
Shumpert
2018 first round pick (miami) from suns
2018 2nd round pick (Toronto) from Suns
2019 2nd round pick (LA of Minn, Least fav) from Cleveland
2020 2nd round pick (Portland) from Cleveland

21 Jun 2017 00:39:02
PHX Mgt hears this. laughs a lot. recovers in time to hang up. No way Suns do a deal like this. period.

21 Jun 2017 01:54:50
Irving must be in trade. Love value is declining fast.

21 Jun 2017 02:34:23
Phxfan, it's been reported that they've thought about moving the 4 for Love. It gives them a cheap star that they control for 3 years.

21 Jun 2017 08:27:30
Cheap is right, Love isn't what he used to be! Everyone talks about Bledsoe being injury prone, why not bring up the fact that Love is injury prone, Suns dnt need that and I hope they're not wanting to trade for him!

20 Jun 2017 21:50:25
HEAT summer
heat : russell, randle, mozgov
lakers : dragic,t johnson, mcroberts(waive), #14 pick
let babbitt and reed walk
sign hayward, milos teodosic, briante weber

russell/teodosic/weber
waiters/richardson/ellington
hayward/winslow/mcgruder
randle/j johnson/white
whiteside/mozgov/haslem

20 Jun 2017 18:06:01
Knicks Rebuild

NYK- Jae Crowder, #3 pick 2017, 2018 LAL/2019 SAC pick (Bos)
BOS- Kristaps Porzingis

Boston essentially trades the 1st pick, and Jae Crowder for Porzingis. They are the favorites to sign Heyward as well. This gives them a starting 5 of Horford, Porzingis, Heyward, Bradley, Thomas. Very strong team to compete in the East. The Knicks love Josh Jackson and could select him at 3.


NYK- #14 pick
MIA- Carmelo Anthony

The Heat were able to shed Bosh's contract. Melo would bring another piece to a pretty solid core. Maybe this could lure in Lebron next year.


The Knicks would have picks 3, 8, 14 this year and most likely two top 5 picks next year (their own and LAL pick if its between 2-5). They would be able to spend money in FA and attract some bigger names with a good young core.

20 Jun 2017 18:55:34
AJ- Don't think Knicks are trading Zinger. For the Knicks to trade Porzingis within division, it will cost Boston at least Crowder AND 3 #1's. Not sure if that's what you posted.

20 Jun 2017 21:23:34
Crowder and two top 5 picks seems like fair value for porzingis. I like this deal for both sides.

19 Jun 2017 23:46:04
Rumor has it Butler to Minnesota heating up again.

If I am Minnesota I offer Wiggins, Aldrich, and 7th pick for Butler and pick 16.

Minnesota still can draft a good you player and have cap space to add another asset or 2.

20 Jun 2017 02:10:43
They shouldn't give up Wiggins for Butler. At 22 Wiggins isn't far off from being an allstar.

20 Jun 2017 02:37:20
WIth Butler another year older and Wiggins another year developed (he really improved his 3pt shot just needs to work on defense where he has been a lot worse than predicted) I think this trade makes less sense than a year ago. Especially with the #7 pick involved where they can complete their lineup with perfect pf prospect in Issac. If LaVine were swapped for Wiggins I'd be alright with Twolves doing it or potentially if Dunn were swapped with #7.

19 Jun 2017 19:41:53
Heat

PHX- Gordon Dragic, Kyle O'Quinn, 2019 NYK (Lottery protected)
NYK- Eric Bledsoe, Dragon Bender, Josh McRoberts
MIA- Carmelo Anthony

Sign Gordon Heyward to MAX


C- Hassan Whiteside
PF- Carmelo Anthony
SF- Justice Winslow
SG- Gordon Heyward
PG- Tyler Johnson

19 Jun 2017 21:14:41
Makes no sense for Suns. What are they giving up Bender for? Dragic is older and a worse fit for that team than Bledsoe is. New York is getting way too much back for Melo although I think Miami would be a good fit for him.

19 Jun 2017 22:15:03
HEAT do not want melo.

20 Jun 2017 01:55:08
Niko, Heat would gladly take Melo for the right price (Johnson and a future pick) .

19 Jun 2017 19:03:28
1st trade:
Pacers trade George to Lakers for #2, #28, 2019 1st and Clarkson

2nd trade:
Pacers trade #2 to Suns for #4 and #32 and 2018 Heat 1st (Suns want Ball)

3rd Trade:
Trade Young to Atlanta for #19 and #31 (Need to replace Millsap)

4th Trade: Trade #19, #28, #31, #32, #47 to Orlando for #6 (Orlando is rebuilding and needs picks)

Draft Fox at #4, Isaac at #6, Ferguson at #18
Resign Miles and let Teague walk.

Lineup:
Fox/Stephenson/Young
Clarkson/Ferguson/Ellis
Robinson III/Miles/Niang
Allen/Isaac
Turner/Seraphin/Jefferson

Thoughts?

19 Jun 2017 21:42:28
I doubt Lakers give up that much for George. I don't think they'll ever include #2 pick but if they did that's all they'd need since I don't see any team outbidding that for a 1 year rental (they could probably add Deng or Mozgov and still get away with it) .

The second trade is alright although if I were the Suns I'd be fine at #4 where I'm guaranteed to get Ball, Jackson or Fox all who could fit well in that team (move Bledsoe for another draft pick in this draft or young asset) .

3rd trade is a little rich for Young since Hawks wouldn't be that good if they lost Millsap and could get a more reasonable replacement with #19 pick that would build them toward the future around Schroeder and THJ.


The Fourth trade I don't think those picks move you all the way up to #6 especially in this deep draft and from a team like Magic who is already young but needs a young player with superstar potential which is much easier found at #6. They already have a bunch of alright young player and adding 5 players to any roster is tough; 2 or 3 of those would have to be stashed overseas which really limits your selection.

19 Jun 2017 16:59:44
Heat-Pacers

Heat gets: Paul George

Pacers: Dragic, Winslow, #14

Heat

sign Lowry and Ibaka

Lowry
Waiters
George
Ibaka
Whiteside.

19 Jun 2017 17:22:51
Not enough.

19 Jun 2017 19:35:17
Pacers want a rebuild not an older point. Waiters fits better for the trade but I still don't think that's enough.

19 Jun 2017 22:00:30
I could potentially see Pat Riley doing an aggressive move like this. It would be better if a team like Nuggets was brought in to take Dragic and provide younger assets to go to Pacers but I think Winslow and #14 is a strong start. Its a bit of a reckless move for the Heat since they are assembling basically an entire new team from scratch and hoping it will work well enough to convince George to stay but the Heat don't have that bright of a future so this gamble may be worth the risk.

I can't imagine many teams willing/ able to beat that offer.

19 Jun 2017 22:18:29
we can trade for pg13 and sign hayward
and also sign teodosic instead of lowry.

19 Jun 2017 16:15:26
Lakers big three around Paul George :

Indiana get Jordan Clarkson and Josh Jackson

Okc get Brandon Ingram and Dangelo Russel

Miami get Julius Randle and Ivika Zubak

Lakers get Paul George, Russell Westbrook and Hassan Whiteside

19 Jun 2017 16:46:50
I take it you're a Lakers fan?

19 Jun 2017 17:03:21
You live up to your name on that one. AIRBALL!

19 Jun 2017 18:42:44
And they will all play together on Fantasy Island.

19 Jun 2017 19:37:38
You forgot to have Chris Paul and LeBron sign in LA too.

18 Jun 2017 16:21:44
Suns Get: 2nd pick, Luol Deng

Lakers Get: 4th pick, 2018 Miami 1st, 2018 Raptors 2nd


Magic "is in love" with Fultz but the Lakers don't stand a chance to get him now, so moving down and are guaranteed to still get one of Ball, Jackson and Fox. Phoenix take on Deng's preposterous contract but get to get whoever they feel the 2nd best player in the draft is.

18 Jun 2017 18:03:37
Some minor reworking to your deal.

Suns Get: 2nd pick, Luol Deng, Lakers #28 pick 2017

Lakers Get: 4th pick, 2018 Miami 1st, Suns #32 in 2017, Brandon Knight

Suns take Deng's nasty contract. get some of it relieved by the Lakers taking the remainder of Knight's deal. (about $5m per year to the good for LA)

18 Jun 2017 23:56:26
Although Deng's contract doesn't hurt Suns cap space is still valuable and they are still giving up a Miami pick where there is no telling what team they'll be (Team they started as which was one of worst in league or one they ended as which record wise was one of best in the league for that stretch) .

I like Phxfan's trade more from a value perspective although Lakers entire motivation of doing this trade is that they don't need Josh Jackson at #2 with George saying he wants to come aboard next year and may still be able to get Ball at #4 while clearing cap space to get George and some help for him next offseason. Only clearing 5 mill per year and moving back a few spots to 2nd round (although contract isn't guaranteed which is a plus) makes it a lot less appealing.

19 Jun 2017 00:28:05
If Lakers are trying to clear cap space for 2018 free agents, taking on Knight's contract doesn't make sense.

Just #2 and Deng for #4?

18 Jun 2017 08:00:42
Heat Get: 9th pick

Mavericks Get: 14th pick, 21st pick

Thunder Get: Josh Richardson


Miami move up from the late lottery and can target players that possibly wouldn't be available where they were originally picking (Ntilikina, Smith Jr. or Markkanen).

Dallas get a good return for a mid lottery pick in a deep draft class, aiding their rebuild in the long term.

Oklahoma buy low on Richardson after a year plagued by injury and hope he can replicate the shooting prowess he displayed during his rookie season.

18 Jun 2017 00:58:41
If Lowry leafs in free agency


LA Lakers: Derozan

Philly: Deng+2nd (Jackson)

Phoenix: 3rd (Ball)

Tor:Mozgov+ 4th (Fox)+ 1rnd Miami 2018+ 1rnd pick LA 2018+ 1rnd sac 2019

18 Jun 2017 04:31:31
Boston will own #3 on Monday. If rumors are true!

18 Jun 2017 08:18:12
If we don't believe the Rumors you think philly gives #3, LAL 2018 1st, 2019 Kings 1st and take the 50 million for deng to climb 1 spot?
And lakers give mozgov and deng and #2 for derozan.
I would love that trade for the lakers but not for the others.

16 Jun 2017 21:59:29
Suns Get: 2nd pick

Lakers Get: 4th pick, 32nd pick, 2018 Miami 1st

16 Jun 2017 22:50:47
no deal Suns want Ball to play with Booker so if they want that Lakers want Suns 2018 pick not Heat 2018 pick and Suns can keep the 32nd pick.

16 Jun 2017 23:01:07
suns gets 2nd pick
lakers get 4th pick 2018 miami 1st

16 Jun 2017 23:02:11
Too steep a price for PHX. Suns could offer that package to Boston for #1.not that they would, but it could happen.

15 Jun 2017 01:53:12
Talk of the Kings trading 5 and 10 to move up and get Fox are heating up soooooo......

Sixers offseason

Trade 3 for 5 and 10
Draft Monk at 5
Trade 10 and the Lakers 2018 pick to the Warriors for Klay Thompson

Ben Simmons
Malik Monk
Klay Thompson
Dario Saric
Joel Embiid

15 Jun 2017 06:32:24
Love it as Sixers fan but not enough for Warriors.

14 Jun 2017 17:12:05
Heat Offseason

Trade: #14 pick, Winslow, Tyler Johnson, Josh Richardson to Indy for Paul George and Jefferson

Sign: Gordon Hayward (max) and Rudy Gay (2 year, 20m)

Heat Starting Lineup:
Dragic/
Gay/
George/
Hayward/
Whiteside/

14 Jun 2017 20:42:56
Don't think that would be enough for Heat to get George but if they could pull that trade off it would make signing Hayward much easier. That starting lineup would be 2nd best in the league with 2 clear top 25 players and 2 guys who are borderline all-stars as well as Rudy Gay who is versatile. The big issue would be they'd have no depth. I doubt they'd have much cap space left so they wouldn't be able to resign Waiters or Johnson so they'd effectively have to get an entire bench through FA with likely only MLE, bi-annual exceptions and minimum contracts at their disposal.

11 Jun 2017 16:35:30
spurs: O'Quin

NY: T Parker+ 1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick spurs 2018

Miami: C Anthony

Spurs sign K Lowry for a 4y/100M
And Reddick 3y/ 45M

C: O'Quin/ Gasol
PF: LMA/ D Lee
Sf: K Leonard/K Anderson
SG: Reddick/ Green
PG:K Lowry/ Murray

NY draft:
Smith or Ntikilina
and: Justin Jackson

C: Hernangomer/ Noah
PF: Porzingis/Plumlee
SF: J Jackson/Kuzminskas
Sg: Lee/ Holiday
PG: Ntikilina/Parker

NY hit the free agent market in 2018

11 Jun 2017 16:42:22
The trade isn't bad, but the Spurs won't end up with any where near for the signings.

11 Jun 2017 17:48:52
Spurs won't deal Parker, though they should.

11 Jun 2017 23:26:21
Texas has a great taxregime, so can see Lowry and Reddick accept those contracts.

12 Jun 2017 03:14:28
Paul would obviously be the preference but Lowry wouldn't be a bad pickup. Reddick would be a good fit too.

10 Jun 2017 20:00:20
miami heats offseason moves
get rid of boshs contract, let babbitt & reed walk and waive mcroberts
re sign waiters, jj,ellington
draft day trade
heat : d'angelo russell, julius randle
lakers : goran dragic, josh richardson, #14pick
sign gordon hayward, larry sanders, briante weber
russell/ t johnson/ weber
waiters/ellington
hayward/winslow/mcgruder
randle/j johnson/white
whiteside/sanders/haslem

10 Jun 2017 23:25:31
Bosh is off the books.

Media is floating the rumor of Hayward to Miami, its called stirring the pot. He's not going there. He'll stay in Utah where there's more $$.

If Boston takes him then they'll be just like Portland, Cleveland. They don't have the quality of players like Cavs to be in that position, plus they'll need to resign IT4, or not. Look for trades to get Butler. Vucevic or S&T for JaMychal Green.

10 Jun 2017 05:24:50
Knicks Offseason

-Trade Carmelo Anthony to Miami for Justice Winslow and Josh McRoberts

-Trade Kyle O'Quinn, #44 pick to OKC for Enes Kanter, Kyle Singler (waived), and #21 pick

•Draft:
8- Frank Ntilikana
21- Terrance Ferguson

•Free Agency:
-Sign Trey Burke 2yr 12m
-Re-sign Ron Baker 1yr 4m

Lineup:
PG: Ntilikana, Burke, Randle
SG: Lee, Ferguson, Baker
SF: Winslow, Thomas, Kuzminskas
PF: Porzingis, McRoberts, Ndour
C: Hernangomez, Kanter, Noah.

10 Jun 2017 10:19:47
Even coming off an injury, Winslow is an overpay for Anthony. But Miami has a nightlife that would definitely appeal to Anthony, so a deal is possible. Maybe McRoberts and Okaro White for CA.

10 Jun 2017 14:25:14
Winslow is an overpay, so send Melo to Boston instead for IT and two future 1st's. He should be well behaved there, what with Boston's non-existent nightlife and all.

10 Jun 2017 15:03:15
Melo is basically a salary dump at this point. I believe Phil would take a ham sandwich for him. In fact, Melo's only worth is as an enticement to get LeBron to come to LA.

10 Jun 2017 16:53:02
Tpierson. You are a fool. You just turned the 2 pick into the entire second round. 9 first round picks. Paul George. Carmelo. And Michael Jordan. Keep quiet.

10 Jun 2017 17:50:43
I don't think Winslow is an overpay for Melo. He has a lot of raw skills, but still hasn't shown me much. I'm still so happy that Jordan is a terrible exec and didn't take that boatload of 1st rounders in 2015.

09 Jun 2017 22:43:54
Heat love Thompson

Cavs whiteside bosh

Added bosh to get the contracts close

10 Jun 2017 00:42:13
Bosh isn't on the Heat.

09 Jun 2017 12:07:50
When superstar wins championship, his next step to become legend. 45 yrs without championship, Durant become a legend in NY.

Heat get Okafor Thomas
Knicks get 36th 39th 46th 50th
Sixers get Noah O'Quinn 8th

Dragic/Johnson/McCruder
Richardson/Ellington/Ferguson-14
Winslow/Thomas
Johnson/Reed/McRoberts
Whiteside/Okafor/White


Simmons/Fox-3rd/McConnell
Bayless/Cabarret/Micic
Covington/Anderson/Korkmaz
Saric/Holmes/Markennan-8th
Embiid/O'Quinn/Noah-suspension

Durant sign 4yr 160 mil
Lee Kuzminkas for Rubio

Rubio/Mason-50th/Simmons-58th
Dotson-44th/Thornwell-46th/Randle
Melo/Anunoby-39th/Early
Durant/Jeaane-36th/Inglis
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Plumlee

09 Jun 2017 15:06:10
1 championship does not make a Super star, a legend. When he has 3 or 4 rings, maybe.

09 Jun 2017 15:25:00
Durant won't leave GSW if they win, why would he. He'll have a chance to win multiple titles there.

09 Jun 2017 15:44:39
That's true Tri, but I'm still trying to figure out what makes Durant tick. Does the multiple championships thing matter? Does his ego care if they're really his championships or if he's no different than a guy like Richard Jefferson on the Cavs. ie, a guy who made an impact, but the team could have done it without him. Does he go the LeBron route, where he has his "easy" ring out of the way to cement his legacy as a champion, so he goes for a challenge? Or is he just having fun with that group of guys and wants to continue the party?

At this point, no move Durant makes would surprise me. He could go to a team that's close to the top like Boston, and push them over? Or even crazier, go to Washington with those expectations like LeBron's second Cleveland stint? He could try to start at the bottom with a group of kids like Phoenix or Philly. Or he could blow everyone's mind and sign with OKC for next to nothing to try to win the fans back over, and be content with one ring and a nice life there. Or he stays. Literally the only place I see him not going is Cleveland. just about anything else wouldn't surprise me at all.

09 Jun 2017 15:47:58
Hahaha sixers get nothing at all. Why do that deal?

09 Jun 2017 17:51:28
The 8th pick is nothing at all?!?!?

I can't imagine Durant goes to NY. The biggest reason is that, is that team even a top 4 team in the east? They're definitely not better than the Cavs or Boston. And even without Durant, GS is much better than that NY team. And SA and Houston are probably better.

09 Jun 2017 19:20:12
Bruh Knicks don't even have early anymore he got cut. Plus the scenario is not too realistic. Knicks say no 8th pick can get you Smith Jr or Monk possibly, much more valuable than the other picks.

10 Jun 2017 04:31:42
NYK's deal the 8th pick and a chance to add a rather valuable player for a handful of mid 2nd rd picks? Isaiah Thomas isn't calling the shots for them anymore so I believe their tendency for making bonehead trades and/ or transactions has halted. Plus NY looking to acquire additional 1st rd pics not trade out of it.

08 Jun 2017 17:47:18
sas-mia-nop-lal

SPURS
GETS- cousins/ deng/ winslow
OUT- aldrigde/ gasol/ green/ anderson/ 2017 1st rd pck
sas get 37millons and out 50millions cap space to sign paul

HEAT
GETS- aldrigde/ anderson
OUT- dragic/ winslow
mia get a allstar pf and take away dragic contract

PELICANS
GETS- dragic/ randel/ spurs pick (29)
OUT- ciusins
nop get a pg that can make pick-and-roll with davis and a young talented pf. pelicans not also sure if cousins re-signing with them

LAKERS
GETS- gasol/ green
OUT- deng/ randel
lal gets two winner vet. that mentoring youngs also expring contract for the next season cap space to sign geogre or any body also they can take out deng contract

SPURS
SIGN- paul/ korver/ amir johnson
korver and johnson can sign to chase a ring (cheap contract)
also sign thomas robinson and rookie- adam hanga and milutinov

LINE UP
PG. paul/ murray/ parker
SG. winslow/ korver/ ginobili
SF. leonard/ deng/ hanga
PF. lee/ bertans/ robinson
C cousins/ johnson/ milutinov.

08 Jun 2017 20:23:35
Wouldn't give up the upside of Cousins and Davis to get Dragic (they already have Jrue Holiday who better fits their timeline) and Randle (if Cousins can't work alongside Davis, Randle would be an even worse fit) and #29 pick. They knew Cousins may not resign there when they traded with him and that's the risk they took and it was factored into the price they got him for. He is a top 10 player in the league I wouldn't get rid of him before giving him a real shot to fit into the team.

Spurs getting way too much, its meh for Miami especially when there are a few top pf that will be FA (Griffin, Millsap, Ibaka) and they need a point guard. Don't like Lakers moving Randle for expensive veterans although they don't have long left on their contracts.

08 Jun 2017 23:25:18
I agree with above comment Pels would need a lot more than an aging PG, Randle and a late 1st rdr.

09 Jun 2017 06:57:22
Lakers aren't going to take on Gasol's contract and green (Ingram plays sf and so does every player involved in their trade rumors like PG13) so idk why they would be interested. Seems like they'd be more inclined to dump salary looking g forward to 2018 FA)

 
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