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23 Nov 2017 17:44:15
Phoe: smith+ Mcroberts+ Harris

Dallas: Bender+ T Chandler+ 1rnd pick Miami+ 2rnd pick OKC

23 Nov 2017 18:01:55
Mavs are not giving up Smith, period.

23 Nov 2017 13:16:26
Phoe: Schröder+ Bellinelli

Atl: T chandler+ B Knight+ 1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick Phoe (top 3 protected)+ 1rnd pick bucks


Phoenix receives a good pointguard and capspace.

Atlanta can rebuilt (this trade will give them 6 1st rnd picks in nex years draft (alt/phoe/miami/hou/Minny/bucks)

19 Nov 2017 10:48:59
Miami: Dudley+ T Chandler+ B Knight+ return miami pick 2018 and 2021

Phoe: H Whiteside+ Booker+ Mudiay

Denver: Dragic+ 1rnd pick Bucks

Nets: Farried+ 2rnd pick OKc (from Suns)


Miami has little future, playing for the eight spot. They take contracts for draft picks. They already have some young talents, so they can go for a total rebuilt.

Phoenix get a good defensive center, a young pointguard and capspace

Denver get a good pointguard that can lead that team and an extra draft pick

The Nets get an exciting player and an extra draft pick

20 Nov 2017 16:49:07
Don't think Miami is in the market for a rebuild after all the money they just spent on signings this offseason.

18 Nov 2017 01:43:43
Trade 1: Phoe-Clippers-Port-Wolves

Phoe: B Griffin+ McCollum+ L williams

Port: J Butler+ 2rnd pick OKC(from Phoenix)

Wolves: Monroe+ J Jackon

Clippers: B Knight+Dudley+Bender+1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick suns+ 1rnd pick Bucks

Trade 2
Clippers-LA-Philly

LA: D Jordan+ 2rnd pick clippers
Clippers: Ingram+ clarckson+ Deng


Phoenix receive two all star calliber players and a great sixth man. McCollum and Griffin would be a great duo. Griffin could be the main ball handler and McCollum can be a great scorer. Griffin- McCollum-Bookers would be a big three. And they still have some assets to trade for a good center (Chriss+ 2021 Miami pick)

Portland receives a player that would be a better fit than McCollum.

The Wolves get an extra young player with potential and they can stay under the cap.

LA get capspace and they have a backup plan with signing Jordan if they fail to land other big free agents. They lose Ingram, but Kuzma is a good replacement and they trade Deng without losing draft picks


The Clippers can rebuilt with four draft picks, they aso propably keep their 2019 and 2020 pick (top 14 protected), so they only have to give Boston a 2022 second round . And they can develop Bender and Ingram. And Clarcson would be the main scorer in that team, so his stock would go up and they can trade him later for draft picks.

18 Nov 2017 05:39:50
i don't think the wolves would have any interest in this. their current roster can contend for much of the foreseeable future, but i don't think that happens w/ o butler around.

and the clippers have delusions that they are contenders, so blowing it up doesn't seem like their move. i would be shocked if they didn't resign dj (unless he forces his way out like cp did)

18 Nov 2017 08:55:57
@donadamsky

A Wiggins get a big contract next year, so the Wolves go over the cap. They also have to pay KAT a Max contract in 2019. Can/ will they pay the luxury tax? I really like Butler, but trading him for J Jackson and a second rnd pick would be a smart move. They don't need to win now, they still have time.

The Clippers do think that. But they're 5-9 and going to play for the eight spot, so this would be a smart move for them.

17 Nov 2017 20:11:13
Lakers get - Joesph and a protected pick from Ind

Heat get - Randle

Pacers get - Winslow

Ball - Joesph
KCP - Clarkson
Ingram - Brewer
Kuzma - Nance
Lopez - Bogut

Dragic - Johnson
Waiters - Ellington
Johnson - Richardson
Randle - Olynk
Whiteside - Bam

Collison - Young
Oladipo - Stephenson
Winslow - Bogdanovic
Thad - Sabonis
Turner - Jefferson

18 Nov 2017 16:52:05
I like this for Indy.
But why would Miami do this.

15 Nov 2017 12:51:52
Phoe: R gobert+ L Ball+ Deng

Utah: Clarckson+ Ingram+ J Jackson+ T Chandler+ 1rnd pick Suns

LA: Monroe+ Favors+ 1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick Bucks+ 1rnd pcik Miami 2021

15 Nov 2017 13:24:47
Big no from Lakers. While they clear Deng and Clarkson's deals, they give up their two best young assets for picks. Don't see Magic moving Lonzo for this.

15 Nov 2017 13:58:27
They could sign D Cousins+ P George+ LBJ.

15 Nov 2017 14:59:34
Maybe they sign them all, but so what? Then they would be stuck with a 2 or 3 yr window to win it all and then they have to start all over again and suck for the next 10 years.
No way Magic would he do this, or be allowed to do this.
They are on the right path. They can add LeBron and George. They would be far better off letting it play out.

15 Nov 2017 15:08:01
Gasupo, that's a huge risk and if they have to depleted their team of all affordable talent is it even worth it for Lebron or George to go since they're already on stacked teams.

15 Nov 2017 16:51:41
I wouldn't do that if I were the Lakers gm. But they already cleared Mozgov. So if they wanted to rebuild they could have kept russell. I can see them do it somehow if they can keep Ball and just give up Ingram alone. With Ball and the picks they have assets for the future.

15 Nov 2017 17:00:34
sure, la got to clear cap but if that means sell the farm, its a mistake. i think the model to follow is what the celtics have done/ doing. which is try to work an immediate and longterm plan. so pg and boog are both 27, wouldn't it be ideal, if they could, to have ball and ingram in their prime once pg and boog decline (and reach the end of their contracts)
and the lakers aren't even getting any lottery picks here as insurance
but holy hell could this deal work out great for utah if that suns pick is top 5 and ingram and jackson pan out.

14 Nov 2017 08:49:46
Phoe: D Lillard

Clippers:J Jackson+ Bender+ Monroe+ 1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick Phoe+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021

Portl: B Griffin

D Lillard is a really good player, but i don't think the combo Lillard-McCollum works, so they should try to trade one of them. The problem is that there're many good pg's for the moment, so they don't get equal value for McCollum. They could get a great return for Lillard, because he's younger and better.

14 Nov 2017 13:52:50
IMO, PHX should keep those picks. Lillard is a fine player but his addition doesn't get the Suns to even into the playoff discussion. Also, it's way too much to give up for just one solid G.

14 Nov 2017 14:04:25
No way the Clippers trade Griffin away after they just resigned him to that huge FA contract to retain him.

14 Nov 2017 14:09:27
not sure exactly what, but i think port should be getting something else. lillard is significantly more valuable in a trade than blake. maybe beverly but that might be too much then, his defense at point would “contrast” mccollum and his offense well.
anyone that says phx is giving up too much is undervaluing dame. he is arguably top 10 in the league.

14 Nov 2017 14:18:00
That team only need a center to become a contender. Booker- Lillard would be a great backcourt.

They could sign a free agent if they can trade Chandler with the bucks pick.
Mahybe cousins.

C: Cousins
PF: Chriss
SF: Warren
SG: Booker
PG: Lillard.

14 Nov 2017 15:45:42
@donadamsky, agree Portland should get a little more.
The Clippers could miss Beverly in a rebuilt and Porland could trow in a second round pick.

This team could kick ass
C: Nurkic
PF: B Griffin
SF: Harkless
SG: Beverly
PG: McCollum
Sixth: Aminu/ Z Collins.

14 Nov 2017 15:50:54
Trading Lillard would be a huge mistake. You don’t trade the all star face of your franchise that is still locked in long term. It just never happens, for a reason.

14 Nov 2017 15:52:53
Suns only a center away from a contender? Best get in to get those eyes checked. The only places they don't have a hole are at SG and maybe SF and that one remains a maybe. Yeah, just a center, PF, Head Coach, PG, and a viable bench away from contending.

14 Nov 2017 17:59:24
can you trade picks for a coaching staff?

14 Nov 2017 18:19:06
@Bmiller

So Portland should keep playing for a first round exit?

14 Nov 2017 18:36:13
@Gusapo

Does McCollum, Griffin, and Nurkic make it farther than Lillard, McCollum and Nurkic? I don’t think so.

Trading Lillard for griffin is a lateral move. So why trade a fan favorite and your face of your franchise to not get any better?

14 Nov 2017 19:13:43
This trade would make them better.

McCollum is the ideal pg for B Griffin, who can lead the offense and who could be the main ball handler. And P Beverly would make them stronger in defense.

13 Nov 2017 17:31:17
Knicks/ Cavs

To NYK - Frye, 2020 2nd (via Miami)

To CLE - O'Quinn, Baker

Cavs add depth at two areas of need while clearing out a player not in their rotation currently.

Knicks slot Frye behind Zinger at the four, clearing up minutes for Willy and Jo. Channing is on an expiring deal, and NY picks up a pick.

13 Nov 2017 17:58:04
This will benefit both teams. nice trade.

13 Nov 2017 23:45:43
i like it, though the Cavs may need to throw Calderon's expiring into the deal. The Cavs save some money, add young depth that could be useful with an older, injury prone line up, and get a shot blocker.

It's not bad for the Knicks. They need minutes for their bigs and this helps them do it, while also giving them more cap flexibility in the future, adding a pick and bringing in a solid veteran presence.

11 Nov 2017 23:37:08
Cavs get Monroe
Suns get shumpert Frye Miami 2nd

Sign Ellis

Thomas rose Calderon
Smith wade Ellis
James korver osman
Love crowder green
Thompson Monroe zizic

12 Nov 2017 04:44:47
Why would the Suns do this? Monroe has an expiring deal that will give PHX lots more cap space. Shumpert has 3 years left at $10m per. So, PHX won't do a deal like this, if they have to take more than another expiring deal.

12 Nov 2017 11:57:22
Shumpert is a good fit in Phoenix, but no way they do this. They want to hit the free agent market.

Maybe the suns do this if Cleveland gives them a swap option on the Nets pick with the Miami and Suns pick. And the Cleveland 2021 pick if they don't use the swap option.

12 Nov 2017 11:58:55
Shumpert only has a player option left after this year.

06 Nov 2017 17:58:19
NY: H Barnes+ Bledsoe

Suns: Noel+ Ntilikina+C Lee

Dall: T Chandler+ Noah+ 1rnd pick NY 2018+ 1rnd pick Miami 2018+ 1rnd pîck NY 2020

07 Nov 2017 02:47:42
Among the things that would get in the way of a deal such as this ever happening. Suns owner and Mavs owner have a long standing dislike for one another. You'll note that there have been few, if any, deals between the Suns and Mavs over the past 7-8 years.

07 Nov 2017 13:58:39
No way knicks give up 2 first rnd picks in this deal.

06 Nov 2017 10:31:45
Hou: Okafor+Ellington

Philly: R Anderson+ 2rnd pick Hou

Miami: Bayless+ 1rnd pick Hou (lottery protected)

Hou receive capspace and CP3 could upgrade Okafor's value and maybe Nene could learn him some defense

Anderson can become a good sixth man in Philly and he could lead that young team.

Miami receive a backup PG and they get an extra pick ( i don't think they can hit the free agent market next year, so they can take Bayless's contract.

06 Nov 2017 14:47:49
Philly should get a first just for taking on Anderson's contract. I also don't like Okafor for Houston. He has 0 chance of being able to be even a rotation player with their play style.

05 Nov 2017 23:09:57
NY: Bledsoe+ Whiteside

Phoe: Ntilikina+ C Lee

Miami: T Chandler+ J Noah+ return 1rnd pick Miami 2018 and 2021+ 1rnd pick NY


NY, can dumps Noah's contract and they receive two borderline all stars.

Phoenix dumps T Chandler and receive a young pg to replace Bledsoe

Miami takes bad contracts for 3 1rnd picks, so thay can go for a total rebuilt. (Maybe they can also trade Dragic for Monroe and an bucks pick)

06 Nov 2017 03:33:35
whiteside is worth an unprotected 1st from ny? i get they are taking noah’s contract, but still, seems like an overvalue on whiteside. i know the knicks are the king of bad decisions, but giving up your 1st (could be top 5) for a player who will be past his prime by the time (if ever) your team gets good seems illogical.

06 Nov 2017 08:12:32
NY is 5-4 for the moment and Whiteside and Bledsoe would make them better.

06 Nov 2017 13:10:49
Dona, Noah's contract is hands down the worst in the league. Unless gms think it will be a guaranteed top 7 or 8 pick, I don't think it gets rid of Noah and in this case with what NY is getting back that pick probably falls out of the lottery. I don't like this for PHX. 2 firsts and Bledsoe for a guy who's proved nothing seems ridiculous.

02 Nov 2017 13:16:28
Nets: T Chandler+ shumpert+ Best pick between Miami pick and Nets pick

Cleveland: Bledsoe+ worst pick between miami and Nets pick

Phoe: Russell+ Booker+ Frye+ Acy.


The Nets give up Russell and take some bad contracts, but that Nets pick would be good, so they can start a rebuilt and hit the free agent market in 2020.

Cleveland get a borderline PG and they still keep a draft pick.

Ther suns clear capspace and they get back a younger PG with the same potential

02 Nov 2017 13:59:01
Not sure the Nets would do this. Russell has been great so faright and they got him on the cheap. The Nets have played ok. They might as well build the team around Russell and see where they go instead of ANOTHER rebuild.

02 Nov 2017 14:30:04
I know,
The Thing is, Russell is going to be a free agent in two years and the Nets won't have any other assets to improve the team.
I would trade him now his value is high for good draft picks, so they have time to rebuilt.
It's more easy to atract a good free agent when there are already two or three good players in a team.

02 Nov 2017 15:11:04
i don't think russell is going anywhere. he is only 21 (23 when he can be a fa, if he doesn't extend by then. ) bk has plenty of time to build around him, and they will have a ton of cap space that summer, even more if they can somehow unload mosgov. the nets might have a bright future.

02 Nov 2017 10:48:39
Cavs get okafor Covington
76ers osman zizic cavs 2nd Miami 2nd


Thomas rose Calderon
Smith wade shumpert
James Korver Covington
Love crowder green
Thompson okafor Frye

02 Nov 2017 13:17:36
Sixers decline immediately. Covington is a solid player and a shut-down defender. Sixers have waaaaay to many 2nd rd picks already. They have a young euro center they drafted and stashed this year ( no need for zizic) . So essentially osmam for covington does not interest philly at all. Sixers rather buyout okafor then ake this deal.

02 Nov 2017 08:41:52
Indy: Fultz+ T Chandler

Phoe: C Joseph+ Okafor+ L Stephenson

Philly: Bledsoe+G Robinson III+ 1rnd pick Indy+ 1rnd pick Miami

02 Nov 2017 09:23:29
So Corey Joseph, Glenn Robinson and a first means the number 1 pick who has an injury?

02 Nov 2017 10:22:23
Phoenix gets a guy that can play pointguard and they dump chandler's contract, so they can hit the free agent market.

Philly wants to stop tanking, they lose a great prospect, but they receive a good pointguard, that can lead them. And both the Pacers and Miami pick have a good chance to become lottery pics, so they still can draft young prospects or trade the picks for missing pieces.
Philly will have three picks in next years draft, so they have the assets to trade for Porter or Donkic.

Indy takes a bad contract and loses propably a lottery pick, but they receive a player wit star potential. Indy wins the most, but they could lose the most, if Fultz becomes a bust or he can't stay healty this year, they could miss a good lottery pick.

And yeah, i'm a pacers fan and i propose this trade without shame :-)

02 Nov 2017 11:01:11
Makes no sense for philly. They have a pg in Simmons and Fultz fits perfectly as sencond ball handler who can play off ball.

01 Nov 2017 10:34:56
Phoe: Brogdon+ Monroe+ J Parker

Bucks: Bledsoe+ Whiteside

Miami: T Chandler+ Maker+ return 1rnd pick 2018 and 2021

01 Nov 2017 11:01:31
That's actually interesting. I'm not sure who turns this down.

The Heat have a decent young team, but their best players are older and it doesn't look like the team really has a chance to develop into a power in the East. I like this move of declaring a clear direction going forward that could actually result in building a champion

The Bucks lose some of their young talent, but Bledsoe and Whiteside aren't to old and Giannis is ready to compete now. I think losing Brogdon would hurt, but a starting line up of:
Bledsoe
Middleton
GA
Teletovic or Snell
Whiteside
Would be extremely dangerous.

I like it a lot for the Suns as well. Those two picks look like middle of the draft picks. This gives them a young starting pg who has looked great this year, a player in Parker who has allstar potential if he can ever get healthy, and a ton of cap next year. If they can stay healthy and come together, they have all the talent they need to end the rebuild after this year and start trying to win.

01 Nov 2017 16:10:16
good trade, miami might be hesitant tho (but they shouldnt, maker could end up better than hassan)

30 Oct 2017 15:58:16
Phoenix: A Davis+ R Rondo

NO: Bender+ warren+ Bledsoe+ 1rnd pick Miami 2018+ 1rnd pick Phoenix (top 5 protected) 2018+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021

NO:
C: D Cousins
Pf: Bender
SF: Warren
SG: Holiday
PG: Bledsoe

NO could do this trade, if Bledsoe could keep Cousins in NO. They will have a good starting five and lots off draft picks to improve the team.

Suns
C: A Davis
PF: Chriss
SF: J Jackson
SG: Booker
PG: Rondo/ B Knight

The Suns, give up a lot, but they receive a starplayer (MVP kandidate). Rondo can play the PG possition untill B Knight comes back. Or they could go after Smart or E Payton (on a reasonable price) in free agency, when B Knight won't recover.

31 Oct 2017 18:04:13
Davis is a stud, but no one is worth that package.

31 Oct 2017 23:48:49
@skills davis is worth that package and more.

01 Nov 2017 03:24:16
Donadamsky feel free to trade 7 players for 1. To bad it takes 5 for a starting lineup. The pelican having done anything with Davis, so why would anyone give up 7 potential players to end up where the pelic an have been? Tell me 1 players that's ever been traded for anything near that.

01 Nov 2017 11:23:16
He's worth the package, but with where the Suns are at it doesn't make sense for them to do it.

29 Oct 2017 22:05:08
I Don't think the Lakers are going to sing a big free agent, so they should try to get some draft picks by taking bad contracts


Phoenix: Clarckson+ B Lopez

NY: Bledsoe

LA: Noah+T Chandler+Bender+ 1rnd pick Miami+1 rnd pick NY+ 1rnd pick NY 2020

30 Oct 2017 02:52:41
I don’t think the will get any a big free agent either but they won’t take on bad contracts. If they thought about it they wouldn’t of traded D-LO.

30 Oct 2017 05:08:42
Take out Lopez and do this is Lakers don't sign big free agent.

30 Oct 2017 16:08:47
they should wanna keep lopez if they strike out in fa (but bender could end up being just as good) . and clarksons contract isn’t really an issue if they aren’t trying to clear cap space.

but let's look at this as a bledsoe trade. phx could do a lot worse given bledsoe’s current value (wanting out)
but considering the relative urgency of moving bledsoe, i don't see la giving up on summer 18 just yet.

31 Oct 2017 15:33:13
Donadamsky seriously? The sun's can do worse? They're giving up Bledsoe Chandler bender and a first for Clarkson. Lopez is a free agent and has no place in Phoenix. I wouldn't trade any of that besides Chandler for Clarkson straight up, much less all together. Try not to let yur lakers homer mentality cloud yur judgement.

27 Oct 2017 17:44:56
Cle: Bledsoe+ 2rnd pick Tor+2rnd pick Memphis+ 2rnd pick Miami

Phoe: Porzingis+ Ntilikina

NY: Frye+ Shumpert+Bender+ 1rnd pick Nets 2018+ 1rnd pick Miami 2018+ 1rnd pick Suns 2018+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021

27 Oct 2017 20:15:37
Sure, PHX would love to acquire Porzingis. but for Bled, Bender, and 3 #1 picks? No. as in no way.

28 Oct 2017 02:11:56
Cavs pass. Bledsoe isn't worth the Brooklyn pick. I highly doubt they get more than two later picks/ midlevel prospects and a shorter contract for him.

If I were PHX, I would do this in a heart beat. Especially if they could get top 5 protection on their pick. They get a potential future starting pg and another star on the rise to go with Jackson, Booker and the rest of their young talent.

NY gets pretty good value back, but it just doesn't seem like they're willing to build their team through the draft. Dolan seems to have no patience. Every time an above average player hits the market the Knicks seem to atleast try to go after them and really anything short of 2 allstar caliber players isn't going to make that team a winner this year.

27 Oct 2017 10:55:03
Denver: Bledsoe+ Cousins (If Cousins resign, because he want to play with Bledsoe)

Phoenix: Jokic+ Mudiay+ Arthur

NO: Farried+Dudley+ 1rnd pick Phoenix 2018+ 1rnd pick Miami 2018+ 1rnd pick Phoenix 2020 +1rnd pick Miami 2021+ 2rnd pick Memphis 2018+ 2rnd pick Tor 2018+ 2rnd pick Phoenix 2020


Denver:
C: Cousins
PF: Millsap
SF: Chandler
SG: Murray
PG: Bledsoe

Phoenix:
C Jokic/Chandler
PF: Chriss/ Bender
SF: Jackson/Warren
SG: Booker/Knight
Pg: Mudiay/Knight

NO Orleans can rebuilt or use the draft picks to get a second star (shootingguard/ Small forward)

27 Oct 2017 13:17:04
That's a LOT going back to NO. If I'm them, I do this in a heartbeat! Faried actually fits pretty well next to Davis, Dudley is a great veteran presence with range, and they'd have a ton of opportunity to pull in some young talent. Meanwhile, Boogie is more than likely out of there after this season.

As for the other two, Boogie and Bledsoe could make Denver a very interesting team, though I'm not sure how much of an upgrade Boogie is over Jokic. As for Phoenix, they bring in a young stud and a guy in Mudiay that still has a lot of potential, but I'm not sure why they're giving up that many first rounders, especially when they aren't even going to the team that's giving much up.

27 Oct 2017 14:31:35
Maybe the Miami 2021 and a second round pick should go to Denver too.

Cousins is a great player, he only needs to find HIS team.

Phoenix is giving up a lot, but they get everything they need to become a superteam. A good center that can pass and shoot 3- pointers. And a young pointguard.

27 Oct 2017 15:33:12
New Orleans is getting way to much. We just saw Cousins get deal for less than half of that six months ago and the Kings were negotiating from a much better position.

27 Oct 2017 16:22:14
Would rather have Jokic over Cousind tbh.

27 Oct 2017 20:58:49
rkenne What difference does it make what he got dealt for 6 months ago? What matters is if you decide to trade him mid year, what can you get for him. Cousins has showed no off or on court behavior issues and if there is a team needing a big to make a Playoff Run especially if they are in win-now mode, then Cousins is the solution and they will pay.

28 Oct 2017 13:53:01
Dacman. We've seen what the market thinks of Cousins and that was when the Kings had leverage. Demarcus said he wouldn't resign and he hasn't made the same commitment to NO, there was a year and a half left his contract compared to half a year, teams won't have him on a bargain contract for more than half a year, and teams know that they can't risk losing Cousins for nothing because it could spell trouble with Davis. Cousins continues to rack us Ts and really he's never had trouble off the court.

As for teams trying to make a playoff run, there aren't many teams looking to win at all costs right now that have assets.
List of teams looking to win at all cost that could use Cousins and their best obtainable assets: GS- late firsts and some low end prospects; Cleveland- Brooklyn pick, future picks that may have value given Lebron's future, Osman, Zizic, Thompson and expiring contracts; Houston- Capela, late future firsts, and expiring contracts; OKC- Adams, Abrines, and late future firsts; Toronto- JV, Powell, low end prospects and late firsts; Washington- Porter and late firsts; SA- late firsts, expiring contracts, Mills, Murray, low end prospects, and possible assets that could bring back value in a 3 way trade.

Teams flush with assets that may get involved, but probably wouldn't be willing to risk their future without atleast a commitment from Cousins; Boston and Milwaukee.

TI honestly can't see any other team getting in on this given either their leeriness about the half year, current rebuilds or strength at Center and Boston and Milwaukee are both long shots.

Maybe NOs gets a little more value back than they sent out for Cousins but that's a long shot and there is a possibility that they get very little back compared to Cousins abilities. They got him for next to nothing and that's what they're getting back for him.

 
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