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15 Dec 2017 03:19:07
Cavs get oquinn
Knicks get osman zizic Miami 2nd

Sign monta Ellis

Thomas rose Calderon
Smith wade shumpert
James Korver Ellis
Love crowder green
Thompson oquinn Frye

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15 Dec 2017 03:33:40
Why in the world would you sign Monta Ellis.

15 Dec 2017 04:02:57
Why do the Cavs need O'quinn at that price? Osman more and more has looked like a quality role player and the Cavs don't play with more than 1 traditional big at a time. He hasn't put up huge stats, but Osman looks like a glue guy. He can defend, get hustle rebounds, finish, make the right pass and hit the 3.

15 Dec 2017 03:04:51

DET get Mike Conley & Nikola Mirotic

Pg Conley
Sg Bradley
Sf Harris
Pf Mirotic
Ce Drummond

CHI get Chandler Parsons & DET 1st round pick 2018

Pg Dunn
Sg Holiday
Sf Parsons/Valentine
Pf Portis
Ce Lopez

MEM get Reggie Jackson, Stanley Johnson & 1st from DET 2020

Pg Jackson
Sg Evans
Sf Johnson
Pf Green
Ce Gasol

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15 Dec 2017 05:16:14
Reachin. Conley worth more.

14 Dec 2017 23:45:36
POR: Turner, Davis

GRIZ: Parsons

Parsons contract is shorter term than Turner. Davis is expiring, Portland can't afford to sign Davis without going into Luxury tax next season. As of now anyway.

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14 Dec 2017 20:43:16
Bulls: McCollum, Leonard

Port: Mirotic, Dunn, '18 1st rd.

Dunn is a great defender, maybe elite, and Mirotic shooting, dribbling, passing would help Ball movement, dump Leonards deal, Bulls hit salary floor, and Port. Gets a '18 1st rounder. A golden 1st rounder. Almost a top 5 guarantee if Chicago finishes the way they have started.

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14 Dec 2017 21:37:55
Ok bulls fan. Dunn is elite? Bench Mirotic is a game changer? And you get a near all star and think the team will still be a bottom dweller.

14 Dec 2017 23:17:12
Yes, Dunn is an excellent defender, maybe elite defender at the PG position. Nearly, or more than 7 foot wingspan. Amazing to watch for such a young guy. Port: Doesn't have a guy over 6'3" that can shoot better than Mirotic. Bench player or not. He'd start in Portland. Maybe not, their bench needs somebody who can score.

15 Dec 2017 02:30:36
You must change your name to Bullssalaryfloor.

15 Dec 2017 05:03:48
USA, excellent trade proposal, you must have put some time into that one.

15 Dec 2017 08:44:35
no for chicago, they traded butler for assets on purpose, can’t see them doing the opposite to bring another star into their rebuild, aka 180 back to the middle of the road where they were last season. they should keep all their picks and tank for a few years, build a really solid core, and then invite AD home in 2020 for a title run or two (optimism on 100 here)

14 Dec 2017 20:00:45
Cavs: Mirotic

Bulls: Frye, Shumpert, '18 2nd

Bulls hit salary floor, Frye expires, Shumpert's player option next season could be bought out for half, get a 2nd for taking Shumpert. Mirotic can score. His contract expires, and I think matching GS scoring isn't a bad idea, and he is a slightly better post defender than Love, so I think Cavs would be willing to give up the pick.

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14 Dec 2017 21:48:24
The Cavs don't need Mirotic. Unless a player is a versatile defender or great offensive player, they really don't do very much to improve the Cavs roster.

14 Dec 2017 19:13:40
Trade #1: Cleveland - Utah
Cleveland trades: Tristan Thompson and Cedi Osman
Utah trades: Derrick Favors and Dante Exum

Trade #2: Cleveland - Orlando
Cleveland trades: Kevin Love and Ante Zizic
Orlando trades: Aaron Gordon, Jonathan Isaac and Terrence Ross

-Waive Derrick Rose

Cleveland needs to add some youth. LeBron is a free agent and his departure is a real possibility. These trades prepare us for life after LeBron, along with the Brooklyn pick.

As a bonus, I'd fire Tyronn Lue and hire Jeff Van Gundy after the season is over.

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14 Dec 2017 21:03:45
i like the idea of the orlando deal but it kind of makes “backwards” sense. its a here and now deal for the magic, future oriented for cavs. not saying its a bad move for the cavs, it just doenst make much sense for them as contenders. i'd like to think the cavs are thinking about the future, but i really think they just want to do what it takes to keep lebron around and this isn’t it.

14 Dec 2017 21:07:10
Orlando would probably want someone a little younger than love to invest in, but you never know. High pick too. Gordon is pretty good. Athletic too.

14 Dec 2017 21:46:29
I don't think Utah or Orlando entertains either deal and why start a rebuild? The Cavs are the odds on favorite to win the East and have the ammo to improve the roster. Foe as much talk as there is there still isn't another team who can sign Lebron without a lot of things going their way. The Lakers almost certainly would have to convince atleast George and probably Cousins to come while keeping their young players in house, Houston or the Spurs would both have to guy their rosters, Philly might have a chance but how long until they have a team that can compete with the Warriors and I've seen NY thrown out there which is laughable.

15 Dec 2017 06:09:51
Why would Orlando give up Gordon and Issac for love two young players for a 30 year old bad trade.

14 Dec 2017 19:03:10
The Cavs get Danny Green

The Spurs get Osman, Koufos, and George hill

The Kings get Frye (exp), Calderon (exp), Parker (exp), Joffrey Lauvergne, and 2 Cavs 2nds.

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14 Dec 2017 20:45:54
You had me till I saw Parker.

14 Dec 2017 21:08:48
good for cavs, good for spurs (i really like hill going there)
but i don't see the incentive for sac, clearing cap doesn’t really seem like their MO, big fa’s prob aren't targeting sac-town. if hill wants out, or they have buyers remorse, i think they could get a late 1st/ more youth for him.

14 Dec 2017 21:51:59
If the Spurs want to significantly improve their roster, Parker has to be involved. He's a big expiring and he just isn't good any more. I can see them not trading him for emotional reasons, but if they want to improve their team he'll be gone.

14 Dec 2017 22:05:11
Dona, I think they over payed for him. I don't think he has much value at his age and salary,

14 Dec 2017 23:26:51
Spurs have never rushed anything. They'll be a top 4 team in the west, and compete in the semis more than likely. They dealt George Hill, they like him, but not for 20mil. They let Simmons go, and all he wanted was just under 7 mil. They liked Simmons too. Fiscally this trade works, Spurs would never do it. I don't think Mavs would deal Nowitzki either. No matter what. I have never seen Osman play either, so I wouldn't be able to put a value on him.

14 Dec 2017 18:56:38
Hawks - Lakers

Hawks gets:
2020 1st Lakers (Top 20 protected)

Lakers gets:

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14 Dec 2017 20:50:48
Lakers would do it. All guys are expiring. and Lakers want to clear cap space for next season. Even if they weren't expiring they're trade-able.

14 Dec 2017 21:38:28
Pretty bad for the Hawks. Basically a late future first or 2 2nds and Randle, who's about to get a fairly sizable contract in free agency isn't worth bringing on the 72 million remaining on Deng's contract. They could just save a ton of money by offering Randle 20 million a year in free agency if they were willing to commit that much money to getting him.

15 Dec 2017 00:19:05
Deng is owed just under 54 mil, if you count this season's full salary amount. I would be very surprised if Randle gets 20mil. Last summer was pretty revealing. Pope got 17mil for 1 season. Randle, 15mil is high I would think. Could get it though. Could.

15 Dec 2017 17:07:01
Jorga, I'm not saying they should. I'm just saying if you look at the numbers, they could throw 20 million out to Randle, no one would match it and even at 20 million, which would be ridiculous for Randle, they would spend less money than they would by getting Randle as the center piece for taking on Deng. Even if they can resign Randle for something extremely cheap like 2 years at 8 million per their cap hit for this trade would be 2018 23 million 2019 26 million 2020 26 million.

14 Dec 2017 18:24:58

CHI get: Mike Conley and Zach Collins

pg. Conley/ Grant
sg. LaVine/ Holiday
sf. Valentine/ Zisper
pf. Markennen/ Mirotic
c. Collins/ Felicio

MEM get: Robin Lopez, Mo Harkless, Ed Davis (exp), Kris Dunn, Quincy Pondexter (exp), Jusuf Nurkic (exp), POR 2018 1st DP and CHI 2018 1st DP

pg. Dunn/ Chalmers
sg. Pondexter/ Evans
sf. Parsons/ Harkless
pf. Green/ Wright
c. Lopez/ Nurkic

POR get: Marc Gasol and Bobby Portis

pg. Lillard/ Napier
sg. McCollum/ Connaughton
sf. Turner/ Aminu
pf. Vonleh/ Portis
c. Gasol/ Leonard

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14 Dec 2017 20:37:48
chi should not trade their pick and more for conley, it just doesn’t make sense for the franchise. i'd rather have a top 5 pick in this draft alone over 3 1/ 2 very expensive years of twilighting conley.
dunn’s potential is looking pretty good rn too
i really think chi’s plan is rebuild hard and keep cap to bring AD home in 2020.

14 Dec 2017 21:12:03
Chicago appears to be moving in a younger direction. It's why Lopez is publicly being shopped. That, and his defense is porous. Saw D. Mitchell take it right at the front of the rim twice in a row, and make it, on Lopez last night.

14 Dec 2017 17:45:13
NY: Mirotic

Bulls: Kanter, 2018 2nd

Bulls hit salary floor, pick is for next season of overpriced Kanter, NY gets a talented scorer in Mirotic who expires after the season if it doesn't work, and saves a couple bucks.

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14 Dec 2017 18:39:32
interesting decision for ny, kanter is playing pretty well this season. i think they would have to value what mirotic can bring to their team kinda high.

14 Dec 2017 21:41:39
Clearly Knicks pass. Hard. There is literally zero need for Mirotic.


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