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19 Sep 2018 19:44:20
Portland Minnesota

Portland gets
- Butler

Min gets
-lottery protected 2019 1st

(Money works)

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19 Sep 2018 20:03:17
Just for argument sake, throw that in a trade machine and it will result in a +12 game gain for Portland and a -12 game loss for Minnesota. I don’t think that a late first rounder will justify that for Minnesota? Not to mention they’d be stuck with another year of Turner at premium money. Would he even start? Money might work, but I don’t see Minnesota accepting this deal.

19 Sep 2018 21:12:40
In all fairness, the trade machine doesn't factor in potential or contracts. Collins has pretty decent value even if he doesn't have the +wins on the trade machine.

That said, I think both teams pass. I can't see Portland giving up Collins for an expiring contract. And I doubt Minny values Collins enough to make him the centerpiece of the deal.

19 Sep 2018 22:38:10
This is bad for the blazers when butler tells everyone he's interested in signing for other teams in the off season. Turner is absolute garbage but he's a buy out guy next summer and the blazers are better off without surrendering assets to get rid of him for a rental.

19 Sep 2018 22:58:56
Paul George said he would only sign in LA as well. Then he signed in Oklahoma. Sometimes taking a risk is worth it for an all star caliber player.

20 Sep 2018 00:40:42
What does Paul George and indiana's situation over a year ago have in common with butler and wolves? I am drawing no parallel's Please advise? Contract? Current team?, declared coveted cities?, specifically a large market? Not following anything you posted, just see defense of a biased opinion.

19 Sep 2018 18:46:41
*Pistons get: SG/SF Nicolas Batum, SF/SG Dwayne Bacon
*Hornets get: SF/SG Stanley Johnson, PF/C Jon Leuer, SG/PG Langston Galloway

- Pistons do this to upgrade at the 2 or 3, wherever they want to outbid Batum. Get rid of two bad contracts. Replace Johnson with bacon, who is arguably better since Johnson hasn't proved much.
- Hornets do this to get rid of batum's awful contract. Clear tons of cap for 2020 with batum off the books. Also get Johnson, who could prove that he was worthy of being a lottery pick.

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19 Sep 2018 16:42:13
Wolves - Suns - Celtics

W get: Irving

Irving, Rose
Butler, Okogie
Wiggins, Deng
Gibson, Tolliver
Towns, Dieng

S get: Teague, Jones

Teague, Jones
Booker, Melton
Jackson, Warren
Ariza, Bender

C get: Bridges, Chandler, Daniels, Patton, TW 2021 unprotected 1st

Rozier, Smart
Brown, Daniels
Hayward, Bridges
Tatum, Morris
Horford, Chandler

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19 Sep 2018 17:08:15
How about instead of that the Celtics get Karl-Anthony Towns in exchange for Jabari Bird, Yabusele and Ojele?

19 Sep 2018 17:26:12
This is an awful trade for the C’s.

19 Sep 2018 17:50:50
Boston's in win now mode, they're not giving up their best player for a rookie and a pick.

19 Sep 2018 18:06:15
I like Supercoliders trade better, even though it was a sarcastic response to the original deal, which is completely ridiculous.

19 Sep 2018 22:21:43
I like Super's better also. But only problem is that when they trade Buckets they'll need KAT and without any 1st rd. picks included Wolves let it go in one ear and out the other.

19 Sep 2018 07:53:55
midseason trade


BOS get Jimmy Butler & Dragan Bender
- sign Jamal Crawford

Pg Irving/Rozier/Bird
Sg Butler/Crawford
Sf Hayward/Morris/Ojeleye
Pf Tatum/Theiss/Yabusele
Ce Horford/Baynes/Bender

PHX get Marcus Smart & PJ Dozier

Pg Smart/Okobo/Dozier
Sg Booker/Daniels/Melton
Sf Jackson/Bridges
Pf Ariza/Anderson
Ce Ayton/Chandler

MIN get Jaylen Brown, TJ Warren & 1st round pick BOS

Pg Teague/Rose/Jones
Sg Wiggins/Okogie
Sf Brown/Warren/Deng
Pf Gibson/Tolliver
Ce Towns/Dieng/Patton

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19 Sep 2018 12:43:04
Boston would not give up Brown for Butler, and even if they would, it would be temporary because they could not afford 4 max contracts (Horford, Hayward, Butler, Irving) in 2019-20. Smart would be a good fit in Phoenix, but Suns don't have the assets to get him. Bender would not be a rotation player in Boston. As for the Wolves, someone like Brown fits their timeline but I don't see what they could offer for him since Towns would be out of the mix.

19 Sep 2018 06:50:46
Twolves send: Butler
Receive: Morris, Oubre, Satoransky, '19 (unprotected) & '21 (top 8 protected) 1sts
Get a good return for a flight risk

Kings send: Pick that won't convey
Receive: Smith, '20 2nd, 2m cash
Use cap space to add a pick

Wizards send: Morris, Oubre, Satoransky, Smith, '19 & '21 1sts, '20 2nd, 2m cash
Receive: Butler, Pick that won't convey

PG: Wall, Rivers
SG: Beal, Meeks
SF: Butler, Brown Jr
PF: Porter, Green
C: Howard, Mahinmi

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19 Sep 2018 00:22:20

Wizards Trade Otter Porter Jr Kelly Oubre Jr Tomas Satoransky 2019 first round pick protected 1-20

Wolves Trade Jimmy Butler Taj Gibson Tyus Jones

What y'all think??

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19 Sep 2018 01:42:24
Pretty awful for the wizards getting a rental.

19 Sep 2018 02:29:48
If the wiz get commitment from butler that he stays i think its good for both.

19 Sep 2018 07:52:48
Porter and oubre for Butler would be great, no need to involve picks for a player that could leave for free.

18 Sep 2018 21:41:06

MIN Receives:
Blazers 2019 1st Rd Pick (Top 10 Protected)

POR Receives:

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19 Sep 2018 19:41:22
As a blazer fan I would love that, but they can probably get more.

18 Sep 2018 19:25:52
*Magic get: SG/PG Tyler Johnson
*Heat get: SG/SF Terrence Ross, PG D.J. Augustin

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18 Sep 2018 20:20:42
Who does this help?

I like Johnson and all, but he has an awful contract and wouldn’t come close to making Orlando any more competitive.

And what do Ross and Augustine offer Miami that they don’t already have? Cap relief?

This isn’t an awful trade, but why would either team bother to pursue it? Are you envisioning Johnson as Orlando’s starting point guard?

18 Sep 2018 19:19:41
*Suns get: PG Tyus Jones
*T Wolves get: SG Troy Daniels

- Suns get a young point guard who could start. Could get lots of minutes since Rose took up some of his last year.
- T Wolves get shooting off the bench. Swap an exp contract for exp contract.

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18 Sep 2018 17:23:14
4 nba trades, Give thoughts

1. Hawks get Vucevic and Augustin
- Gives Trae Young help on offense
Magic get Lin and Dedmon
- Gives Magic a starting PG and 2 exp deals

2. Pistons get Gordon
- Get much needed perimeter shooting/scoring
Rockets get Johnson and Leuer
- Get a lockdown perimeter defender and stretch 4

3. Bucks get Whiteside
- Gets a rim protector/great rebounder
Heat get Delly and Henson
- Gets true backup PG and backup C

4. Clips get McCollum
- Gets a go to scorer and better chance at getting Kawhi (trade Gallo)
Blazers get Bradley and Harris
- gets defensive backcourt partner for Lillard and much need forward scoring

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18 Sep 2018 19:33:53
@ NBA16, No team wants Whiteside. He's an overpaid head case on and off the court! I think the Bucks would rather stay with Over paid players in Henson and Dellavedova. Not quite as much of a distraction on and off the court.

19 Sep 2018 00:19:09
I would love to take Whiteside if he came with one of Heat’s SFs (Richardson or Winslow) . The fact that Whiteside is thought to be a headacase only serves to lessen his perceived value. Everyone agrees Whiteside had a down year last year right. He still averaged 14 pts. 11 rebs. And 2.5 Blks. He suffered through several injuries as well. He arguably had a better year than Kevin Love in a down year. Give me this guy any day.

19 Sep 2018 12:53:03
Magic hung up lol.


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