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12 Oct 2018 15:51:50
December 15 Trade

Thunder Trade Andre Roberson Alex Abrines Patrick Patterson

Wolves Trade Jimmy Butler

Thunder have better chance to challenge Warriors

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12 Oct 2018 20:05:38
No way Minnesota doesn’t have a better offer from someone or it goes that far without Minnesota having something on the table that they have to wait on.

13 Oct 2018 10:00:48
man I dunno if okc would do it, would they really want to make their division rivals that much better? I mean 3 slobs no 1st rd picks and no young prospects for just jimmy? Seems to good for Minnesota.

12 Oct 2018 14:00:23
NBA Trade Deadline

Magic Trade Aaron Gordon Johnathan Issac 2020 first round pick lottery protected (Top 5 )

Pelicans Trade Anthony Davis

Second Trade

Magic Trade Evan Fournier 2021 first round protected to Nets

Nets Trade D'Angelo Russell Rondae Hollis-Jefferson to Magic

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12 Oct 2018 16:30:28
Ok MD, I am starting to get your posts now, you’re making jokes or posting ridiculous trades to get people fired up. It’s the only explanations as to why you would think that the Pels would accept that offer for Davis. Now that I have figured it out, the joke will no longer be funny, and you can stop posting knowing someone finally understands what you’re doing.

12 Oct 2018 17:27:20
Literally the worst single package offered for AD. what's even better, beyond the package including a significantly overpaid player and a potential draft bust. you give just 1 first, and it has a protection on it.


The second trade, Nets pass hard. First, talent isn't worth it, second, they can't trade that pick unless the OKC pick in 2020 conveys.

12 Oct 2018 17:42:12
Davis won't resign and fournier won't get you that. Gordon resigned, so he want to be there. U want players who want be their.

Jazz get Mosgov Rockets 1st
Rockets get Simmons Sefolosha
Magic get Knight Burks.

12 Oct 2018 18:12:11
lol, that's hilarious.

13 Oct 2018 05:38:52
The salaries probably match.

13 Oct 2018 16:42:05
Earlier i posted that a proposal that had AD to the Knicks was the lamest trade idea i'd seen EVER on this site

I stand corrected after reading this

If trade ideas were pudding flavors. This would be crap-ioca.

12 Oct 2018 13:26:55
The Warriors get Butler.

The Timberwolves get Igoudola, looney (or young player of choice not named bell), and 2 1sts

The Warriors rap up the championship and give themselves Durant insurance.

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12 Oct 2018 15:39:29
No! Wolves declined that deal I rather Trade him to Rockets or Thunder to Challenge the Warriors.

12 Oct 2018 19:04:59
I don’t want Butler to go to the Warriors and it doesn’t sound like he will, but that would be a pretty competitive package. Also, it would be the best collection of talent ever assembled.

12 Oct 2018 23:48:21
The warriors would not be beaten unless there were multiple injuries with butler.

11 Oct 2018 21:51:44

LAL gets
J. Wall

DEN gets Oubre, Porter

WAS gets Ball, Hart, Ingram and Milsap



Lonzo/ Rivers
Beal/ Oubre
Ingram/ Green
Milsap/ Morris

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12 Oct 2018 03:49:57
Make up stuff, wiz not trading key players.

12 Oct 2018 15:37:55
Wall isn’t worth that. He’s not a great fit with Lebron, he’s always injured, he’s not a top 10 player, and he’s about to be on a super max.

11 Oct 2018 21:38:39

MIA gets Lilard, Butler and Dieng

MIN gets Richardson and Whiteside

POR gets Dragic, Olnyk, and 1st rd pick via MIA 2019, AND 2021

Lilard/ Ty JohnsoM
Butler/ Wade
Waiters/ Ellington
Johnson/ Winslow
BAM/ Dieng


4th or 5th seed in the west no question

Turner/ Aminu

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12 Oct 2018 01:05:00
Portland and Wolves declines that deal.

12 Oct 2018 03:50:26
Ur trades get worse.

12 Oct 2018 16:19:43
I definitely question if minny could get the 4 or 5 seed with that team (I don’t think they make the playoffs) .

Also, Portland gets absolutely screwed. I wouldn’t trade McCollum for that, let alone Lillard.

11 Oct 2018 20:14:28
Magic Trade Johnathan Simmons Terrance Ross 2019 first round pick (protected)1-15

Wolves Trade Jimmy Butler

Magic need to Wins now start making a Playoffs

Aaron Gordon is Untouchable

NIkola Vucevic Untouchable

Mo Bama Untouchable

Johnathan Issac Untouchable

Second Trade
Magic Trade Timfoey Mozgov 2019 second round pick unprotected to Knicks

Knicks Trade Joakim Noah 4.5 millions cash to Magic

Magic Buyout Joakim Noah Contract

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11 Oct 2018 20:58:54
Bad move for Orlando. Chances are he walks. I’m not sure what the purpose of trading Mozgov for Noah is? You lose a 2nd and take on salary. Even with Butler, Orlando would struggle to make the playoffs.

11 Oct 2018 21:40:37
Did you really say that Vucevic is untouchable?

More like untradeable.

11 Oct 2018 22:04:36
Vucevic is definitely not untouchable or untradeable. I think he holds solid value, and Orlando would be smart to move him soon to carve out room for Bamba in the starting lineup.

That package might get Butler. I don't hate the move for Orlando if they were to do it. They've sat in the bottom 10 of the NBA for so long, they need to make a bold move.

12 Oct 2018 00:01:11
Kanter and vucevic are similar players. Vucevic is 4 million dollars overpaid and kanter is about 12 million overpaid. Both should and could be traded. 3 yrs 25 million with bonuses and play incentives is what I'd be looking to pay either one of those guys. Maybe vucevic could get 10. I think he's a little better than kanter, last I saw.

12 Oct 2018 15:51:31
Vucevic is worth his contract. He’s definetly better than Kanter. He can pass, he’s atleast a passable defender, and he’s has legit range out to the 3.

12 Oct 2018 16:21:57
Vuc is waaaaay better defensively than Kanter (who is the worst defender in the NBA) . I’d take Vuc over kanter all day long.

That said, neither one would make me happy as a starter. I think Vuc could be a 6th man of the year though.

11 Oct 2018 18:13:08
TWolves- Richardson, Olynyk, Cauley-Stein

Heat- Butler

Kings- Dieng, Protected 1st (via Miami)

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12 Oct 2018 00:03:09
3 yrs of starter salary for the 10-12th man off the bench is worth a lottery projected pick.

11 Oct 2018 17:08:31
Knicks Future Moves


Timberwolves get Tim Hardaway Jr., Courtney Lee, Lance Thomas, and their 2020 1st Round Draft Pick

Knicks get Jimmy Butler

Play out the 2018-2019 season.

Waive Joakim Noah

Free Agency

Sign Kevin Durant to a Max Contract

Sign Kyrie Irving to a Max Contract

Resign Jimmy Butler to a Max Contract

Resign Kristaps Porzingis to a Max Contract

Sign Jamal Crawford to a veteran's minimum contract

Sign Zach Randolph to a veteran's minimum contract

Sign Al Jefferson to a veteran's minimum contract

Sign Joe Johnson to a veteran's minimum contract

2019-2020 Roster

Starting Lineup

PG Irving
SG Butler
SF Durant
PF Knox
C Porzingis


PG Ntilikina
PG Burke
PG Mudiay
SG Crawford
SF Johnson
PF Randolph
PF Jefferson
C Robinson

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11 Oct 2018 17:48:42
Welllllll, seeing as a max contract ranges from I believe 25%_35% of the cap, 4 max contracts would bring that to about 110% of the cap. Sounds like a good starting point lol.

11 Oct 2018 17:53:38
4 max contracts? WOW. You can take Irving out of the mix. Probably Durant, too. Down to two, IF they can acquire Butler. maybe maybe not. Now your down to one Max. Which is more likely unless Porzingis doesn't want to be in NY anymore.

11 Oct 2018 23:54:38
In this situation it's doable. After all trades and season Knicks well have about 64 mill in cap so it can work Butler bird rights will only take up 22 mil and they can give Irving and Durant 32 each or at least 30 each. Go over cap to resign Butler and prozingis.

12 Oct 2018 10:25:43
Ya just max everybody don’t have a bench hire Thibodeau when he's fired. really well thought out I like it.

11 Oct 2018 15:35:27

PHI- Jimmy Butler
MIN- Robert Covington, Jarred Bayless, Frank Korkmaz, 2019 1st unprotected

C- Joel Embiid
PF- Dario Saric
SF- Jimmy Butler
SG- JJ Reddick
PG- Ben Simmons

C- Amir Johnson
PF- Mike Muscala
SF- Wilson Chandler
SG- Zhaire Smith
PG- Markelle Fultz

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11 Oct 2018 16:05:36
76ers can't trade their own 2019 first-rounder because it might convey to Boston.

11 Oct 2018 16:56:34
Phili can trade their 2019 pick. They get the less favorable of their's or Sacramento's (and Boston gets the better of the two) . Phili could trade whatever they get in a trade now.

That said, I'm not sure Minny is getting a first with that package at this point.

11 Oct 2018 14:57:25
The Suns get Rozier

The Celtics get the Suns 1st (top 10 protected dropping to 5, 3 and then unprotected)

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11 Oct 2018 15:54:46
Celtics have spent a ton of time developing Rozier, and they could have four picks in the first round next June anyway. So that deal is not happening. Rozier will stick in Boston until at least July 1, when they'll have a good idea if Irving's knee is sound and if he's ready to re-sign. After this season they'll also know what's going on with Anthony Davis, and Rozier could be part of a deal there.

11 Oct 2018 16:12:06
How would rozier be a part of a deal as a free agent? Irving is in the fold long term and they won’t be able to keep Rozier. The money just isn’t there to give him a deal. All of those picks won’t convey next year and if they do you can turn them into more future assets at the worst or use them to get Davis. Keeping a steady stream of picks wouldn’t be a bad option given all of the talent they already have and how young they are. They could be set up for the next 15 years, if they play it right (which Ainge probably will) .

11 Oct 2018 16:56:29
Irving is not in the fold long term.
Rozier cannot be a free agent next July -- he can be a restricted free agent (if he doesn't sign a deal before Monday) .
I didn't say all of the picks will convey. I said they could convey.
If they knew they could get Davis for a boatload of first-rounders, they might consider moving Rozier. But not until then.

11 Oct 2018 17:00:06
Irving can say whatever he wants, but I wouldn't take him at his word. Teams have been burned too many times with that (Boozer, Aldridge to name two recent ones) . I wouldn't trade Rozier until Irving is signed (which obviously can't happen, because Rozier would be a free agent at that time) .

Matching whatever he gets and then flipping him the following year might be the best course of action for Boston. Or just let him walk this offseason if he gets a massive deal.

11 Oct 2018 18:04:00
I qs taken aback a bit by the articles written that the Celtics are trying to extend Rozier. I always thought he'd be traded, but I think they will get a deal done, which will be beneficial in the long run. IE. He would bring back a better package than he would of he were a pending free agent.
I think Irving will be true to his word, because all along this off season neither Ainge or the Celtics ever publicly panicked whenever those Irving rumors came out. I just think, they knew something that no one else knew. that they were confident that Irving would re-sign.


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