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13 Dec 2017 17:30:12
Cavs get mirotic
Bulls get shumpert zizic Miami 2nd

Sign Williams

Thomas rose Calderon
Smith wade osman
James korver green
Crowder mirotic Williams
Love thompson Frye

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13 Dec 2017 17:51:26
Not what the bulls had in mind I don't think. Who is Williams? LAC sweet Lou?

13 Dec 2017 18:02:37
Can't see the Bulls having any use for Shumpert or Zizic.

13 Dec 2017 18:29:30
Supercollider 6 months ago, "Zizic is the answer to all of the Celtics' rebounding problems. " Now, he isn't a good enough prospect to be a part of a package to get a mediocre player that doesn't/ team doesn't want to be on a rebuilding? Any way Cavs pass. Shumpert's defense and the small assets the Cavs lose aren't worth giving up for Mirotic. He's a mediocre shooter, plays little d, and after the Portis issue it came out that most of his teammates hate him. Unless a player is a good defender or great offensive player the Cavs don't really need him at the expense of any of their younger players or picks.

13 Dec 2017 20:18:20
rkenne16, Zizic may be, and I believe will be something, someday in the NBA. If he was ready he would have received some of Thompsons minutes instead of stints in the G League. I would guess that means he is not rebounding, or defending at an NBA level. Cavs, from the bouncing back and forth from the bush league, to the pro's are pushing his readiness as fast as they can. Good players don't typically do that. It's a gamble on his talent is how I would read the actions of the Cavs.

13 Dec 2017 22:21:44
Jorgawood, I think his lack of playing time and g league stints are more a product of the Cavs depth, coaching preferences and play style. The Cavs want bigs that run the floor and shoot the 3. Plus, they haven't been playing many minutes with 2 bigs on the floor and Lue's been reluctant to play his younger players in the past.

14 Dec 2017 00:07:34
If Thompson was healthy he wouldn't play? Your die hard Cavs spirit really shines!

14 Dec 2017 07:06:55
rkenne_16, I admire your loyalty, Thompson can run the floor, but hasn't attempted a 3 in 7 seasons with Cavs.

14 Dec 2017 13:45:24
Sorry for the ambiguous wording. I meant they need to excel in atleast one of those places. Zizic looks like a decent athlete, but he's not an athlete on Thompson's level and apparently he has a decent midrange game that I haven't really seen so far in his limited NBA minutes. I'm not saying the guy has a ton of value, but he has some.

14 Dec 2017 17:00:02
He certainly does have some promise. Big guys that shoot are highly valued.

13 Dec 2017 15:29:09
DEN - MEM - LAC - CLE

DEN get: Mike Conley and Chandler Parsons

pg. Conley/ Murray
sg. Harris/ Beasly
sf. Parsons/ Jefferson
pf. Milsap/ Lyles
c. Jokic/ Plumlee

MEM get: Tristan Thompson, Kenneth Faried, Austin Rivers, Darrell Arthur, Channing Frye (exp), Will Barton (exp), Derrick Rose (exp), 2018 1st DEN, 2018 1st BKN (via CLE), and 2018 CLE 1st DP

pg. Rose/ Rivers
sg. Harrison/ Evans
sf. Barton/ McLemore
pf. Faried/ Green
c. Thompson/ Frye

LAC get: Marc Gasol, Wilson Chandler, Iman Shumpert, Emanuel Mudiay, and Jauncho Hernangomez

pg. Teodosic/ Mudiay
sg. Shumpert/ Johnson
sf. Gallinari/ Dekker
pf. Griffin/ Chandler
c. Gasol/ Hernangomez

CLE get: Deandre Jordan and Lou Williams

pg. Thomas/ Wade
sg. Smith/ Williams
sf. James/ Korver
pf. Love/ Crowder/ Green
c. Jordan/ Zizic

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13 Dec 2017 16:20:19
Big no from Cavs. Jordan and Williams for Thompson shumpert rose Frye and 2 firsts. They can’t trade two firsts in same year anyways.

13 Dec 2017 16:32:19
The Cavs would be better off going after Gasol if they're going to include the Brooklyn pick and maybe try to get them to include Jamychel Green, but with the uncertainty around Cousins and George, I'm not sure the Cavs should make any big trade right now.
I also think that the Grizzlies aren't getting enough here and that the Clippers are getting way to much. If Jordan had that kind of value, he would be gone and I think it would take a big offer to convince Memphis to change course.

13 Dec 2017 16:44:22
My head is still spinning. A 4 team trade? I have never heard of that before.

13 Dec 2017 17:48:50
Why wouldn’t Cleveland just cut this down to them and Memphis? Those players and and picks for Conley and gasol. I don’t think Memphis would do it, but it makes a lot more sense and is much less cluttered.

13 Dec 2017 12:12:51
Bulls: Mirotic, Lopez

Griz: Parsons 1st round pick


Not good, not good, not good.


Parsons contract not a short enough deal, and the pick if trade occurred would most likely not be lottery. Best I could do

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13 Dec 2017 13:01:41
Finding a 3rd team to send Lopez to might help.

13 Dec 2017 16:52:04
rkenne_16, why would Lopez need to go to another team? Salaries still have to match as well. Unless someone is way under cap. Even then, Mirotic ending up a grizzly Isn't fair to team taking on Lopez. I don't think Bulls would do it. A non shot at a lottery pick for dealing both of these guys is the lopside in my eyes, as well, and Parsons 2 more years after this one at 24 mil.

13 Dec 2017 17:10:49
A first alone probably isn't enough to get rid of Parsons. His contract is huge, but I also don't think back up center is a huge need for Memphis. A third team (maybe the Bucks? ) might be willing to give up some small assets for him to the Bulls plus a rotation player to Memphis. Throw in some other small assets from the Grizzlies and it would make more sense for the Bulls.

13 Dec 2017 17:23:01
Who is the back up center in Memphis?

13 Dec 2017 22:35:42
They have a few rotation guys that can play the 5, but with Gasol playing 30 plus minutes a night and roster that doesn't have a ton of talent on the wing and their starting point guard out, having a starting caliber center on their bench doesn't help the team very much and I don't think Lopez and Gasol playing together is much of an option in today's game.
Plus, my point was that getting a third team that would actually value Lopez enough to give up some young assets would help this trade actually become palatable for the Bulls.

14 Dec 2017 00:23:14
Lopez, Asik value about the same. 5 mil is what I would like to pay for a back-up, Back-up. Expiring contracts would land Lopez. No picks. I am just not sure which expiring deals teams plan on letting expire, and move on. If I did then that third team is doable. Atlanta has a vacancy at center, Zeller is hurt in Charlotte. Maybe something there, I don't see it though. I wouldn't want both guys either if I have to give up a 1st. Shedding Parsons contract is not easy though.

13 Dec 2017 08:53:28
Philly: D Lillard

NY: McCollum

Portland: noah+ Bayless+ A Johnson+Fultz+ Ntilikina+ 1rnd pick LA (or Sac pick 2019)+ 1rnd pick NY 2018+ 1rnd pick NY 2020

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13 Dec 2017 09:31:23
Portland would have to waive, or trade 2 players immediately with this deal. NY needs a point guard, or SF/ PF, and whether you switch Lillard, or Mccollum your not getting an elite ball hawk/ distributor. Great shooters. Philly loves this deal. Noah has a nearly untradable contract. It's just the truth. Amir, and Noah together gives Portland 6, PF/ C. Not counting E. davis, Aminu. Good effort, I struggled to find future assets, and short term contracts for Mirotic, and Lopez of Chicago. I didn't find any. Chandler Parsons was my only sort of realistic option. I am very interested in what the pros of trading actually pull off this season. Probably small insignificant trades. The T. V. Money rumors before T. V. Money was had, and salary cap rumors ended up being over estimated devasted the league with Mozgovs, Dengs, Asiks, Parsons, Turners, Noahs type deals that are crippling. Something is going to give, and it's probably teams stretching guys out for years to come. Talent pool got huge all of the sudden, and young guys are ready like never before. I am aware of some non-public media information about players thoughts, and opinions, but what upper management is willing to give away for a loss is tougher than ever this year.

13 Dec 2017 03:20:39
Crazy trade but do you think

La get C. Anthony and PG13

OKC get Jordan Clarkson, Corey Brewer, Julius Randle and Luol Deng.

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13 Dec 2017 06:02:33
I like it because Kuzma isn't in there. LA loves them some Kuzma. Deng would play n OKC too. Free agency money would get tied up with Anthony, but it already was with Deng, so this looks doable. Everyone is saying OKC can right the ship, but I'm not buying that. PG13 fits great with Westbrook. It just isn't looking very good though. Something will change. Soon. LA wants to make the playoffs, and not having Clarkson is going to be a hit, but rumors were already swirling Clarkson would be going somewhere else anyway.

13 Dec 2017 12:20:36
That might not be enough to get rid of Deng. Once you factor in George, that's a huge rip off. They would have to add Kuzma, Ball or Ingram. If George hits the trade market, plenty of teams will be interested.

13 Dec 2017 17:26:24
OKC is definitely not taking Deng without picks to compensate no doubt.

12 Dec 2017 23:57:17
Suns: Ajinca, Asik, 2nd rd. Pick

Pelicans: Chandler


Suns get a pick, Ajinca expires, find a way to buy Asik out, or trade. Chandler would be a solid back-up. Suns are rebuilding, they are not going to get better than a 2nd from anyone for Chandler. Possibly better, player than Asik. Who though?

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13 Dec 2017 04:12:22
Suns have enough picks as it is. and seems no one wants Asik or Ajinca. so, PHX would say no to this one.

13 Dec 2017 06:23:48
It is not logical for sure. Asik, and Ajinca are terrible. Only Asik hits the books next season though, and for 3-4 mil less. Ajinca won't see the hardwood this season. Or next year in a PHX uniform.

12 Dec 2017 19:10:28
La get nerlens noel

Dal get Corey brewer and Thomas Bryant or ivica zubac.

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12 Dec 2017 19:36:25
I like it, but Dallas is insisting on punishing Noel. Pissing contest. Apparently stealing a good player means he has to kiss your ass, and sign your contract. Trying to downplay the hotdog thing. Control freak Carlisle was pissed. Noel is playing along he seems to have things figured with Cuban, and Carlisle. Fired his agent because he feels a trade could have been found before this got to where it is. Not because turning down Cuban, and Carlisle deal was a mistake. Hand it to Philly for not having such a large Ego in these situations.

12 Dec 2017 16:31:14
Bulls trade nikola to the suns for Brandon knight and a first to his contract off the suns can decline nikola next year then trade Robin Lopez to the blazers for moe Harkless and a 1st 18.

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12 Dec 2017 17:20:43
Toss in two Excedrin tablets and you have a deal.

12 Dec 2017 17:38:38
Supercomputer has his period watch out.

12 Dec 2017 18:42:55
Knight is great, Dunn is coming around though, and Portland has moved on from Lopez.

12 Dec 2017 22:47:57
Um blazers loved Robin when he was with them would help be a good backup.

13 Dec 2017 02:16:06
Blazers loved rolo when he was with Portland would be a nice backup center.

13 Dec 2017 06:19:59
@ someoneslife no disrespect, and you are not wrong. Loved is the key word. Whether smart, or not, or out of respect, let him leave for nothing in return. He also, made 7mil a season with Portland. Lopez now makes 14 mil this year, and next. Harkless is a small forward, Blazers have a glut of PF/ C. M. Leonard instead, might make that pick more appealing. Undoubtedly the pick is the draw, and then I don't think Chicago would offer that to get rid of Lopez. He, and Mirotic are rumored to be on the block, interesting to see what they get. Rumor is they want youth, short term contracts. Lopez is a relatively short term contract. Lots of teams would welcome Harkless, but a 1st rd. Pick unless taking on a bad contract doesn't seem logical.

13 Dec 2017 06:45:53
Who could you see the bulls getting in picks would it be 1st for this draft and what players involved?

13 Dec 2017 06:47:02
Lenoard and Noah Vonleh and a 1st?

13 Dec 2017 08:38:41
Mirotic, and Lopez to Grizzlies for Chandler Parsons, and 1st rd. Pick. Griz would win games, and that pick wouldn't be lottery. Don't know where Griz heads are at with long term plans? And parsons has 2 more seasons after this one. If I was Memphis, and I wanted to make the playoffs I would do this. I scoured every team. This is the best match I could find. It isn't good, but I feel Lopez, and Mirotic would fill some holes for Memphis, although Conley being injured is their biggest problem, but PF, and back up center are almost non-existent there. Both contracts are friendly, and a later 1st rounder won't yield the quality this draft like it did last is my initial thought, but drafts have been getting better every year. No one saw Kuzma, and Jordan Bell being the contributors they are.

12 Dec 2017 15:59:28
MIA - MEM - ORL

MIA get: Mike Conley, Bismack Biyombo, Nikola Vucevic, and Mario Hezonjia

pg. Conley/ Johnson
sg. Waiters/ Hezonjia
sf. Johnson/ Richardson
pf. Adedbayo/ Olynyk
c. Vucevic/ Biyombo

MEM get: Hassan Whiteside, Evan Fournier, Wayne Ellington (exp), Johnathan Isaac, Elfrid Payton, and Justice Winslow

pg. Payton/ Chalmers
sg. Evans/ McLemore
sf. Fournier/ Winslow
pf. Isaac/ Green
c. Whiteside/ Wright

ORL get: Chandler Parsons, Marc Gasol, and Goran Dragic

pg. Dragic/ Mack
sg. Ross/ Afflalo
sf. Simmons/ Parsons
pf. Gordon/ Speights
c. Gasol/ Payne

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12 Dec 2017 19:06:27
Risky for the Magic I’d keep Isaac after letting Oladipo and Harris go in trades they’ve lost out on talents so they should keep some youth to develop and trading for older and injury prone players could make them worse.

12 Dec 2017 15:32:10
Mavs trade- Harrison Barnes, and Yogi Ferrell, 2021 second round pick
Mavs Receive- Jeremy Lamb, MKG, Protected 2018 First Round Pick, 2018 second round pick

Hornets Trade- MKG, Jeremy Lamb 2018 First Round Pick Lottery Protected, (unprotected if carried into 2019) 2018 2nd round pick
Hornets Receive- Harrison Barnes, Yogi Ferrell, and 2021 second round pick

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