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16 Aug 2018 19:31:23

Knicks get Maker, Ajinca, Okafor, NOP 2019 2nd
Pelicans get Snell, Zeller
Bucks get Noah, NY 2019 1st

NYK go all in for Irving and Butler. They will have to find a buyer for Lee to achieve that. Their seconds will help.

NOP are looking for a wing. They get Snell and a needed backup solid center with minimum cost.

MIL gets a lottery pick for eating Noah without having to pay the tax or loose much depth. Brown, DDV, Conny can share Snell's minutes, while they have Wood for third center.

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16 Aug 2018 19:57:11
Pelicans might do this but not with the picks. For zeller and snell? Knicks are going to hold that pick so tight it may turn into a diamond. It's an important piece to their rebuild. If Dolan doesn't screw it up somehow.

16 Aug 2018 20:00:36
Wood is not signed by bucks but I don't think the bucks would have to include maker maybe a pick.

16 Aug 2018 20:03:58
My mistake he just signed I see.

16 Aug 2018 20:20:26
@btec Pelicans fill their needs with Snell and Zeller at the cost of Ajinca and Okafor who don't even play. It's only fair to give up a 2nd for that. I know it was not the wisest thing to do, but Bucks gave a 2nd to Nets just for Zeller.

16 Aug 2018 22:09:35
Pelicans need a SF/ PF or PG or SF. Wilson Chandler would be a good fit for the pelicans. Snell is more 2 than 3 and doesn't ever shoot the ball. Why trade expiring contracts, picks and take on salary for guys you don't really need? Snell would be hard to move without including a 1st.

16 Aug 2018 18:09:37
Atl get Kanter Lee Burke Noah Kornet
Knicks get Bazemore Lin Dedmon Plumlee

Talent wise atl is favorite. Kanter Lee have more to offer than Bazemore and Any other other player. Burke could challenge young as their starter. Lin is a shell of his linsanity yr. Plumlee and Noah despite 7 mil more in money are even talent wise at this point in their career.

Money wise they are both even. Both have to pay about 32 mil to 2 players in the 2019-20 season. Lee Noah equal talent wise Bazemore Plumlee

Ny does it bc both plumlee and bazemore are easier to trade than Noah which ny master plan is clear as much cap space as possible.


Ny now can now trade hardaway for Simmons Ajinca & Bazemore for Shumpert. You will stretch provision plumlee final yr to finalize NY master plan or maybe Plumlee Ajince for Asik Felicio at deadline But what ever you do is force Plumlee 28-30 min jack up his stats and make him more attractive.


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16 Aug 2018 18:49:50
Bazemore is better than Lee, Linn is better than Kornet and Burke, Plumlee is better than Noah, and Dedmond is better than Kanter. How is the talent better coming back to Atlanta? This is awful for Atlanta.

Also, why would Sacremento trade an expiring for a veteran on a big contract?

16 Aug 2018 18:56:45
Hill not simmons lmao.

16 Aug 2018 23:55:23
Hezonja is the sg? Dude. Do you watch the sport? He’s a 3/ 4. Stop putting big men as the shooting guard.

16 Aug 2018 23:18:18
An with that trade the knicks are the biggest contenders to the warriors could you imagine the defense? Wow golden state wouldn’t know what to do.

17 Aug 2018 02:20:51
Ny is tanking minutemaid, letsgoknicks knicks playing big.
Rkenne noah better than love lmoa.

17 Aug 2018 05:41:24
Shizzee the funny this is you think I’m joking. The only that is even arguable is Kanter and Dedmond and i’d take Dedmond because he can actually stay on the court in the playoffs. Kanter is to bad on defense.

17 Aug 2018 18:07:03
Rkenne defense to cavs being worst than the knicks the next 20 yrs.

17 Aug 2018 19:20:00
Ah yes. The new wave of the nba right? Bigs with limited range. That team would literally be the worst team ever assembled. And yet you are over here touting their defense. What a fool.

16 Aug 2018 15:41:07

PHX get Collison & Singler

Pg Collison/Knight/Okobo
Sg Booker/Daniels
Sf Jackson/Singler
Pf Ariza/Chriss/Bender
Ce Ayton/Chandler

IND get Warren, Shroeder & 1st from OKC

Pg Shroeder/Young
Sg Oladipo/Evans
Sf Warren/Bogdanovic
Pf Turner/Leaf
Ce Sabonis/Oquinn

OKC get Thad & Joseph

Pg Westbrook/Joseph
Sg Roberson/Ferguson
Sf George/Abrines
Pf Young/Grant/Patterson
Ce Adams/Noel

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16 Aug 2018 16:16:06
Seems like the first should go to Phoenix instead of Indy.

16 Aug 2018 19:21:39
Phoenix get capspace, so i can see them do this.
Warren, J Jackson, Ariza, Bridges, that's a logjam for the SF
Warren can become a bad contract before you know it.

I like this trade for Indy, It's a steal, but we need the draft pick to do this. Both Schroder and Warren are a risk. So i rather keep some flexibility unless, we get a great pay off.

16 Aug 2018 19:57:07
Gasupo, you can have play Jackson and Warren at the 4 and Bridges at the 2. Ariza can probably play all 3 positions.

16 Aug 2018 20:14:16
Warren averaged 19 and 5 last year and will make 12 million a year. I can't see him becoming a bad contract (unless injuries happen again, but I'd take that risk) . Maybe he's a 4th option, but even then, he's a solid value at worst.

You can never have enough wings in the NBA today. I also like Phoenix trying a lineup without a PG with Booker, Jackson, Ariza, Warren/ Bridges, and Ayton. That could be scary. Turn Booker into a James Harden type player.

Maybe I'm undervaluing Collison, but I don't think too much of him. He's a great backup, or a below average starter.

17 Aug 2018 02:04:23
You'll have to explain the logic as to why any of these teams decide to shift these players around.
I've been trying to search for the logic as to how this makes each team better for it, I just don't see it.
And trust me, anything that gets Singler out of OKC without stretching him, I'm on board for, but I can't figure out why Phoenix would want him though.

16 Aug 2018 12:49:35
Knicks/ Pels

To NYK: Ajinca, Emeka, Liggins, 2019 2nd, 2022 2nd

To NOP: Lee

Knicks get three expiring deals, helping to get closer to dual max space next year, along with a couple of picks.

Pels get the 3 and D wing they still need for a very reasonable price.

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16 Aug 2018 17:05:53
Simmons Ajinca for Hardaway is better for both team.

16 Aug 2018 17:35:16
shizzee, I assume you mean Solomon Hill.

I’m sure the Knicks would be willing to move THJ, but the Pels are looking 3 and D, which Hardaway doesn’t offer like Lee does.

16 Aug 2018 18:58:41
Lee for hill than shumpert for hardaway.

16 Aug 2018 19:45:12
Those 2nds will be going to the pelicans for taking on lee's salary. Lee is not going to be getting 30 minutes a game for the pelicans. He could be a good addition but I don't think the cost trade off works and I have a hard time seeing him on the floor in front of moore, holiday, hill, miller, maybe even Jackson, bluiett. Smaller than hill and miller and would cost a 1st to dump next summer if he doesn't work out in the rotation.

16 Aug 2018 02:08:00
Blazers/ Bulls/ Hornets

Blazers get Biyombo from Charlotte/ Portis from the Bulls

Bulls get Evan Turner/ Protected first from Charlotte (lottery)

Hornets get Felicio/ Payne from the Bulls

Blazers get a solid defensive back up 5, young of with potential, 2 areas of need, for basically the same money they are paying Turner

Bulls get a veteran wing that they sorely lack and a future pick, don't really have room for Portis anyway with what they've done this summer

Charlotte gets a couple of useful players? And saves some money.

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16 Aug 2018 00:29:31
Raps and Celtics

Raptors send
Jonas Valanciunas, Fred Vanvleet, 2019 2nd, 2020 1st

Boston sends Kyrie Irving , 2nd round pick

Only If Boston thinks Irving will bolt ....

1 year rental for sure and a lot of money spent at the pg position . Irving or lowry can both play the 2 spot and with defenders like green , kawahi, Siakam , anunoby and hopefully Ibaka can be half the defender he used to be that side of the court should be fine .

Dynamic game changer like Irving raps can win us the east
Probably only have a 1 year window anyway, kawahi and Irving may both bolt but while we have the a player of this talent possibly for only 1 year go all in.

The raps first rounder in 2020 May be high if they both leave Also

For Irving I understand it's not enough but between injury issues , 1 year left, and u have other players that will be relegated to the bench for Irving and why upset them if he may leave a year later? Boston needs a true big and jv has decent range , great power , shoots ft pretty good and has stretches where he is really dominant .

Raps now have Monroe and Ibaka can play the 5.

Massai knows it's this year or bust

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16 Aug 2018 01:25:20
I can't stand it. Lol
Why. WHY. would Boston help out their biggest rival to get to the finals.
They would let Irving walk before they would trade Irving to Toronto, even if it were for Leonard.

16 Aug 2018 02:21:23
Lmao C's fans are going to crucify you for this idea.

16 Aug 2018 02:22:59
Terrible for the Celtics and I don't think raps can trade 2020 having already traded 2019.

16 Aug 2018 03:35:28
The draft choices are worthless, Van Fleet probably doesn't crack Boston's rotation and Valanciunas is not the type of player the Celtics want. He might not even beat out Baynes. On top of that, Danny Ainge would be run out of town if he traded Irving to a team that might then have enough firepower to knock out the Celtics in a 7-game series.

16 Aug 2018 03:54:36
Not happening if Boston traded Kyrie it would be to the west.

16 Aug 2018 05:03:52
Irving for Melo is more fair.

16 Aug 2018 11:34:13
Irving for Melo is fair? What are you smoking?
Melo is lucky to be a top 50 player. There's a reason he's played on so many teams. he sucks.

16 Aug 2018 13:07:45
Ooh, I like Kyrie for Melo, though C’s might have to throw in a pick to get him.

Of course C’s don’t make this deal. Val is underrated, but Horford makes more sense for the way the C’s play at the 5, sending Val to the bench. It’s ridiculous to say Van Fleet doesn’t crack the rotation, but he becomes the backup to Rozier if this trade were to happen.

That effectively means two bench players, and two high picks for a team that’s already stocks with them. That equals a terrible return for Irving.

16 Aug 2018 16:43:47
You might get Kyrie Eleison for Melo Just not Kyrie Irving.

16 Aug 2018 23:59:39
Right supercollider. Let me guess. John walll. Lillard. Embiid. And Giannis wouldn’t crack this worlds greatest rotation.

Such a hyperbolic nut. The fact that you are talking up a backup center as if he’s this amazing thing goes to show. You are dillusional.

15 Aug 2018 23:26:47

Nuggets get Butler

Wolves get Harris/ Lyles/ Beasley

Nuggets make a big move for a possible rental

Wolves get younger talent and more depth.

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15 Aug 2018 23:00:32

Sixers get Butler

Wolves get Covington/ Bayless/ Saric/ future 2nd

Sixers getting Butler is self-explanatory

Wolves get 2 solid pieces and an expiring contract plus a draft pick to sweeten the deal.

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16 Aug 2018 00:26:18
Take out Bayles and it’s great I don’t think wolves could afford him maybe instead of a 2nd your super late 1st.

16 Aug 2018 01:49:31
Needed to add Bayless to make the money work, plus as an expiring contract it gives the Wolves some flexibility in the summer, wouldn't have a problem with changing the pick to a late first though, still think the Sixers get good value.

15 Aug 2018 22:49:51
Next move for Thunder. Let me know what y'all think.
Three team trade Thunder, Magic, Pelicans

Thunder get Mirotic, and Fournier

Magic get Ferguson, Abrines (exp), Singler (exp)
A 2nd round pick if needed

Pelicans get Schroder

Thunder get a starting PF that can stretch the floor, rebound, and is a good role player. And they get a starting SG that can also stretch the floor and is a good role player. They do take Fournier’s contract which isn't great but they are getting rid of Schroder’s contract which also isn't great and Fournier gives them more of what they need. This would add two good role players around Westbrook and George. Also it clears up a lil of the 2 and 3 spot jam they have.

Magic get out of Fournier's contract which is 17mil guaranteed for 2 more years and a player option for the 3rd which is also 17mil and I doubt he declines it. They are only adding Ferguson’s contract past this season which is a rookie deal so they are saving a lot of money which will help in future free agency. Plus Ferguson is still young with potential.

Pelicans clear playing time for Randle, and they get a PG that can distribute the ball well and is a better starting option than Peyton to replace Rondo.

Westbrook/ Felton
Fournier/ Roberson/ Diallo
George/ TLC/ Nader
Mirotic/ Grant/ Patterson
Adams/ Noel/ Patterson

They can use their trade exception or sign someone at PG for depth.

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16 Aug 2018 13:09:41
Rather have Miro than Schroder if I’m the Pels.

16 Aug 2018 23:11:55
Its a huge no from NOP/.

15 Aug 2018 22:20:22
Next move for Thunder. Let me know what y'all think.
Three team trade Thunder, Cavs, Pelicans

Thunder get Mirotic, and Korver
Pelicans get Schroder
Cavs get Patterson, and unprotected 2nd rd pick

Thunder get a stretch 4 that can start, knock down 3’s, and rebound. And get a solid 3 pt shooter in Korver that can play back up SF.

Pelicans free up playing time for Randle and get a playmaker that is better than Payton to replace Rondo at starting PG.

Cavs free up a lil salary, they clear up a lil of the jam of SG SF players while getting a quality back up PF in Patterson. Even though Patterson didn't play much last year he was coming off of an injury he will b fully healthy now, and they get a 2nd round pick. I know they wanted a first for him but I don't see that happening. If someone was going to offer a first he would already be traded.

Westbrook/ Felton
Roberson/ Abrines/ Ferguson/ Diallo
George/ Korver/ TLC/ Nader
Mirotic/ Grant
Adams/ Noel.

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