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08 Feb 2018 17:35:58
Frye, IT and the Cavs 1st for Clarkson and Nance

Done deal. It feels like a desperation move for the Cavs. This isn't particularly good at helping in a rebuild and it doesn't help them win now. Any locker room positive from getting rid of IT is offset by losing Frye (although IT wasn't playing well, he wasn't wrong about anything he was saying). I don't understand the logic around it.

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08 Feb 2018 17:44:43
Thomas was a pebble in LeBron's shoe. It was clear he wanted IT out (he even froze out Thomas during the on-court celebration last night) . Getting rid of Thomas and keeping the Brooklyn pick enables Cleveland to keep James somewhat happy and at the same time be prepared for if/ when LeBron walks.

08 Feb 2018 17:49:17
@rkenne_16, Look down 3 spaces, I stated this 15 minutes ago! but, Thanks for the reminder! Now, The Cav. s should get rid of Lue, and hire Fitzdale to replace him!

08 Feb 2018 18:06:57
Great move by Lakers. I see Ball-Kuzma-George-AD combo with IT as sixt player.

08 Feb 2018 18:50:46
Rubio, I don't see how they could get AD unless they were willing to give up atleast 2 of Ball Ingram and Kuzma, if not all 3.

08 Feb 2018 19:32:09
Thomas, and Frye are expiring. That was the luring factor. Thomas is a defensive liability. Clarkson, and Nance were going to go someway, somehow. LAL got their pick. CLE is better now, and in the future with this deal.

08 Feb 2018 17:30:57
Cavs get Hill
Kings get shumpert zizic Calderon Miami 2nd cavs 2nd

Sign bogut

Hill Clarkson rose
Smith wade korver
James crowder osman
Love nance green
Thompson bogut

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08 Feb 2018 16:56:21
LA-Cle-Phoe

LA: T Chandler+ Dudley +Shumpert +Frye+ 1rnd pick Cle

Cle:B Lopez

Phoe: T Thompson+clarckson


LA go's fot the 2019 free agency.
Singing K Leonard and K Thompson in 2019
Draft J Hands

C: Zubac/Black
PF:Kuzma/Nance
SF:K Leonard/ Ingram
SG: K Thompson/ Hart
Pg: Ball/J Hands

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08 Feb 2018 17:07:29
Yeah right! Ole CLE favored trade strikes again!

08 Feb 2018 17:09:08
No from the Suns. Why should they do that?

08 Feb 2018 17:21:56
I don't want Thompson, but this is that terrible of a trade.

08 Feb 2018 17:26:14
Cleveland just sent IT, Frye, and their #1 pick to the Lakers for Clarkson, and Nance!

08 Feb 2018 17:38:46
Sun's say no thx.

08 Feb 2018 20:55:15
Thompson would be a good center for that suns team.

08 Feb 2018 16:47:27
Kings Receive-Alex Abrines, Josh Huestis, 2022 second round pick

The Kings would save about 2 million dollars in guaranteed money through this trade and receive a second round pick for the future.

Thunder Receive-Garrett Temple, Jakarr Sampson (waive)

Another vet and talented shooting guard wouldn't hurt for the Thunder. Garrett Temple has been respectable this season putting up 8 a game and being a good defender at the same time.

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08 Feb 2018 15:57:54
The Cavs get Jordan and Danny Green

The Spurs get Bradley and Osman

The Clippers get Thompson, Frye, Osman, the Cavs and Spurs 18 1sts and the Cavs 2021 1st lottery protected.

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08 Feb 2018 16:05:15
Bradley can not be traded with another player.

08 Feb 2018 15:48:12
ATL-Den

Belinelli for Faried and 1st round pick

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08 Feb 2018 15:03:48
Cavaliers get: DeAndre Jordan and Avery Bradley

Clippers get: J.R. Smith, Tristan Thompson, Derrick Rose, and 2018 Nets first-round pick

Even if LeBron James is set to leave Cleveland this summer, and the Cavaliers hold onto the Nets' first-round pick, the odds of them having another opportunity to win a championship like this one are very slim. Therefore, it would be wise for them to go all-in on a championship run this season. With this being said, they've been extremely reluctant on moving that aforementioned Nets' draft pick. So what if the Clippers enticed them with not only one great defensive player in Jordan, but two of them in Jordan and Bradley, in addition to taking on two of their bad contracts? Thompson would almost certainly have to be involved in any deal featuring Jordan, and even though Smith's contract has two years left on it beyond this year, the second year in non-guaranteed, so it's not as bad as it seems. Even though the Cavaliers would be losing a potentially high draft pick, if James were to leave this summer, trading away two bad contracts would allow the Cavaliers to re-sign their three big free agents in Jordan, Bradley, and Isaiah Thomas in an effort to at least compete for a playoff spot.

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08 Feb 2018 15:39:08
The Clippers probably turn that down. If they would take it, the Cavs probably should.

08 Feb 2018 15:56:23
Why should CLE trade the future for this? Bradley, and Jordan aren't going to make CLE contenders.

08 Feb 2018 16:05:50
Can't deal Bradley with another player.

08 Feb 2018 16:06:26
An elite perimeter defender and rim protector, while also getting rid of Jrs contract would be worth the risk.

08 Feb 2018 16:55:33
Let's be real here, Thompson, and Smith alone would cost the pick. Then there's the problem Bradley not being traded in conjunction with another player having already been traded once already this season. Then you have to offer something for Bradley, and Jordan. Now, ignoring all of that, how does this trade make CLE a contender? Seriously? Trade the future to get the sh*t kicked out of you by BOS, TOR, HOU, GS? How is that responsible business practice?

08 Feb 2018 13:32:48
Denver gets Joe Johnson, Crowder, the Cavs 18 1st and a Cavs 2nd

Utah gets Chandler, Frye(exp), and Rose(exp)

The Cavs get Mudiay and Favors

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08 Feb 2018 14:51:05
I like this trade for the Cavs and Denver.
But Utah should trade Favors trade for younger assets or keep him.

08 Feb 2018 15:21:05
I think the problem with keeping Favors for them is that he'll probably get close to 15 million, he doesn't fit at pf well in the league and next to Gobert, they have a solid cheap back up center in Epke already, and the roster needs help in other areas. Resigning both Favors and Hood (plus potentially Exum) will put them well over the soft cap. It's rumored that they have interest in Chandler, but I would imagine that Denver wants a first out of him. I'm not sure that Utah should give that up. This helps them get the first for him without giving up their future assets.

08 Feb 2018 16:02:12
DEN has made offers for Evans. Mudiay is essentially a pick, or developing talent. Why would DEN want a late 1st, and a 2nd for a former Lottery pick?

08 Feb 2018 16:15:39
Jorga, Mudiay has gotten less minutes every year in the league and they've continually been looking for a starting pg, while also having Murray. They clearly don't view him as the future of the position and it doesn't appear they don't seem him as valuable player. It's also rumored they're looking to move him or Chandler for a 1st to get rid of Faried with.

08 Feb 2018 17:05:38
Less minutes every year in the league? He is still on a rookie contract! I am aware of the RUMORS! How is a late pick, a 2nd, and Crowder, Johnson = a starting caliber point guard? I disagree with you, and I don't think Mudiay is junk. He's shown signs of being good. He just isn't better than Harris, Murray, or Barton. Doesn't mean he gets traded for garbage. He's good enough for CLE though. Surprise, surprise!

08 Feb 2018 17:40:56
Moot point now, but I don't see Mudiay as even an average starting pg. Maybe low end, but probably a solid back up that's still young. He could develop and his shot has improved, but obviously, he isn't where Denver or anyone thought he would be at this point.

08 Feb 2018 20:08:08
Jorga, Mudiay was traded for a 2nd. Haha.

08 Feb 2018 13:25:35
NY: Oubre+ Mahinmi+ 1rnd pick Was

Was: O'Quin+ C Lee

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08 Feb 2018 16:04:50
Good for NY. Lee is overpaid for what he actually produces. Might light a fire under Porter though.

08 Feb 2018 18:19:12
Mahinmi is over paid too. I don't see a reason to bring in another overpaid center when they still have Noah (he said he won't agree to a buyout; well see today though) .

I don't see Washington doing this other than to get Mahinmi off the books. If that's the only reason, I wouldn't give up Oubre. Oubre and Porter play the same position; Oubre should light more of a fire under Porter than Lee.

Mahinmi $16.6M / 3 years
Lee $11.7M / 3 years
O'Quinn $4M / 2 years
Oubre $2M / 2 years.

08 Feb 2018 19:35:54
Old guy showing up a 140 mil young guy.

08 Feb 2018 11:12:37
EAST COAST SHUFFLE


Hornets trade Walker, Batum
Hornets get Jackson, Thompson, S.Johnson, Shumpert, 1st round pick 2018 Nets

Pistons trade Jackson, S.Johnson, Ellenson
Pistons get Thomas(use trade exception), Batum

Cavs trade Thomas, Thompson, Shumpert, 1st round pick via Nets 2018
Cavs get Walker, Zeller, Ellenson

Hornets:
Jackson/MCW
Lamb/Monk/Shumpert
S.Johnson/MKG/Bacon
Williams/Kaminsky/Thompson
Howard/Hernangomez/Thompson
- sure Hornets lost some talent with this, but with Nets' and own pick Hornets could have a good draft (good draft class) in order to finally overcome mediocrity
- build around Monk(20), Johnson(21), Kaminsky(24), Lamb(25), Hernangomez(23), MKG(24), Thompson(26) and picks!
- tank for a PG (to build behind Jackson) and best talent available

Pistons:
IT/Smith
Kennard/Galloway
Batum/Bullock
Griffin/Tolliver/Leuer/B.Johnson
Drummond/Reed/Moreland
- all in move with a new IT in Mo-Town and i think Detroit will have arguments to ensure IT's longterm stay (talent, contender status... + uncertainties about IT's future at all around the league)
- also get a playmaking wing, who can make plays, shoot the 3's and defend with Batum
- trade for a wing like W.Chandler, Evans...

Cavs:
Walker/Calderon/Rose
JR/Wade/Korver
LeBron/Crowder/Osman
Love/Green/Ellenson
Zeller/Frye/Zizic
- Cavs need a change in locker-room and some fresh blood, Kemba will all bring that immediately, Zeller will bring more dynamic and hustle play in the paint. Ellenson is a very talented big (#18 pick in 2016) who will learn from Love and Zeller
- yes Cavs lose the Nets pick but Kemba is clearly an upgrade over IT (age, contract situation, fit)

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08 Feb 2018 16:06:26
Kemba Walker is not being traded.

 


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