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12 Dec 2017 11:10:04
Charlotte: IT+ Frye+ smith+shumpert+ Nets Pick

Cleveland: K Walker+ D Howard

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12 Dec 2017 14:29:49
Cavs pass. This makes them thinner, adds salary, they lose the Brooklyn pick, IT for Kemba is a wash and I doubt the Cavs want anything to do with Howard.

12 Dec 2017 15:05:43
I think this could work for the Cavs.
IT is going to be a free agent and there are teams that would give him a max contract.
K Walker is on a good contract for a few years.

And cleveland is a good team for D Howard. He's going to be on a team with leaders and he's going to have a chance on a title.

D Howard and Walker are an upgrade on de defensive end. And that second unit can score and play defense.

C: D Howard/ Thompson
PF: K Love/ J Green/ zizic
SF: LBJ/ J Crowder/ Osman
SG: Korver/ D Wade
PG: K Walker/ D Rose/ Calderon.

12 Dec 2017 17:22:13
It would be worth it just to see Bron-Bron deal with Howard.

12 Dec 2017 18:46:54
Howard, Bron=bad idea. Kemba, and MKG have been untouchable. Frye, Smith, moved around quite a bit before finding haven with the Cavs. Shumpert makes too much money.

12 Dec 2017 21:00:35
I would love to see LeBron and Howard try to co-exist. "A team with leaders" could describe every team Howard's been on since he left Orlando, and it hasn't worked out any of those places either. LA, especially, had an alpha dog in Kobe, but Steve Nash was also on that squad, and I can't think of many players of that era who were better leaders.

12 Dec 2017 23:38:21
Bryant was a great player, but he wasn't a leader.
The last time a team really had some veteran leaders, Boston won the title. Garnet, Allen and Pierce could manage Rondo (for some time)
LBJ/ D Wade and Korver could lead D Howard and this would be his last chance winning a championship. The only thing he needs to do is protecting the rim and grab some rebounds.
And Korver, LBJ, Love and Walker can all shoot threes and spread the floor, so his offensive play could be good too.

13 Dec 2017 12:04:00
Gasupo, when Bryant, Gasol, and Odom won championships who was the leader if not Bryant? Walker is not for sale. Bank on it. Friendly contract.

13 Dec 2017 16:44:55
Howard has blown up to many talent teams and isn't talented enough any more to justify risking the current chemistry and future of the team on. I'm not sure he would be worth trading Tristan Thompson straight up for. Especially given the fact that the Cavs focus is the Warriors and secondarily the Celtics. Both teams are much bigger threats on the perimeter than in the post and that's the place on defense where TT excels as a center and where Howard leaves something to be desired at this point.

12 Dec 2017 10:14:40
NYK-DAL-CLE

NYK: H.Barnes

Jack-Nktilina-Sessions
Hardaway-McDermott-Baker
Barnes-Thomas-Dotson
Porzingis-Beasley
Kanter-Hernangomez-Noah

DAL: 2018 1st rd pick (top 7 protected) + CLE 1st rd pick (own) + C.Lee + I.Shumpert + 2019 2nd rd pick NYK

Smith-Ferrell-Barea
Lee-Curry
Matthews-Shumpert-DFS
Nowtizki-Powell
Kleber-Mejri-Noel

CLE: K.Oquinn + D.Harris

Thomas-Rose-Calderon
Smith-Wade-Korver-Harris
James-Crowder-Osman
Love-Green
Thompson-Oquinn-Zizic

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12 Dec 2017 12:33:39
The Cavs don't need Harris and I don't see O'quinn getting enough playing time to justify giving up a first for him.

12 Dec 2017 10:03:03
TOR/DEN

TOR get Jamaal Murray, Will Barton, Darrell Arthur & 1st round pick

DEN get Demar Derozan

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12 Dec 2017 11:11:51
It's a fair trade and Toronto should do this, but i can't see them doing it.

12 Dec 2017 13:32:50
I thought that Denver was absolutely in love with Murray? Why would they trade him now?

12 Dec 2017 15:53:42
you could say denver needs a primary score but at the same time they are a top 10 offense rn. the trade is fair, but i'd stick with barton+murray. together they give u about the same offensive input as derozan and more defensive ability.

13 Dec 2017 06:42:03
It's a fair trade no doubt, Derozan is a defensive beast, with excellent offensive skills. Toronto is a bit of a dark horse to be an eastern conference finalist, and they are playing well. Can't see them fooling with that now. Derozan is royalty in Toronto too. I think both teams are unlikely to make any deadline deals. Denver has a deep roster. They are going to be tough in the second half of the season. Trey Lyles has been playing great since Milsap injury. Milsap will be ready by playoffs too.

12 Dec 2017 10:02:12
SAC/DAL/DEN

SAC get Harrison Barnes

DAL get 1st round pick SAC, 1st round pick DEN, Juan Hernangomez & Kenneth Faried

DEN get George Hill

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12 Dec 2017 11:12:31
Sacramento schould't trade future picks.

12 Dec 2017 09:34:28
ORL/DAL

ORL get Harrison Barnes

Pg Payton/Augustin/Mack
Sg Fournier/Simmons
Sf Barnes/Afflalo
Pf Gordon/Isaac/Speights
Ce Vucevic/Biyombo

DAL get Terrence Ross, Mario Hezonja, Wesley Iwundu & 1st round pick

Pg Smith/Ferrell/Barea
Sg Matthews/Curry/Harris
Sf Ross/Hezonja/DFS
Pf Nowitzki/Powell/Iwundu
Ce Kleber/Mejri/Noel (out)

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12 Dec 2017 11:13:33
I love this trade for Orlando.

It's not a great return for Dallas, but i don't think they wil get a better offer.

12 Dec 2017 19:00:34
Harrison Barnes has more value, than a pick and some rotational players.

12 Dec 2017 19:08:58
This is quite a lot for Barnes considering this pick could be lottery pick.

12 Dec 2017 19:21:13
Mark Cuban: "teams get better through the draft, and free agency". Mark Cuban is mentally ill, but that's what he said. Don't believe he is a man of his word either, but you never know, even liars, and charlatans come through sometimes.

11 Dec 2017 17:06:25
MEM - LAC - ORL

MEM get: Evan Fournier, Nikola Vucevic, Austin Rivers, Terence Ross, Johnathan Isaac, Sam Dekker, and 2018 1st DP ORL

pg. Rivers/ Chalmers
sg. Ross/ Evans
sf. Dekker/ McLemore
pf. Isaac/ Green
c. Vucevic/ Wright

LAC get: Marc Gasol, Bismack Biyombo, and Elfrid Payton

pg. Payton/ Teodosic
sg. Thornwell/ Williams
sf. Gallinari/ Johnson
pf. Griffin/ Harrell
c. Gasol/ Biyombo

ORL get: Mike Conley, Chandler Parsons, and Deandre Jordan

pg. Conley/ Augustin
sg. Hezonjia/ Mack
sf. Parsons/ Simmons
pf. Gordon/ Speights
c. Jordan/ Payne

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11 Dec 2017 18:17:50
seems pretty fair for all teams, good trade.

11 Dec 2017 18:47:37
it's a fair trade, but i can't see the Clippers trade for an aging player.

11 Dec 2017 20:58:57
Hezonja instead of Ross to Memphis. Its obvious that Magic don't have Hezonja in future plans.

11 Dec 2017 11:04:46
Last year i made this trade:

Philly: Ingram+ dropping the protection on the LA pick

LA: B Simmons

So Philly would have the 2nd and 3 rd pick, drafting Ball and Tatum

Philly:
C: Embiid
PF: Saric
SF: Tatum
SG: Ingram
PG: Ball


LA sent a future 1rnd pick (they own the 2018 pick) to the Nets with Mozgov for B Lopez

LA:
C: B Lopez/ Zubac
PF: Kuzma/randle
SF: Nance
SG: Russell
PG: B Simmons

Should they do this trade, if they could redo it?

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11 Dec 2017 11:57:06
I think the Nets and 76ers both would have passed. A future pick wasn't getting rid of Mozgov and bringing in Lopez. Maybe, they could have done Ball or Ingram, but not just a future pick. Also, the 76ers seemed 100 percent convinced that Simmons was a star last year. There is no way that he was getting trade for something like a few spots in the draft.

11 Dec 2017 14:17:27
Simmons is a stud.
But adding the trio Tatum, Ingram and Ball to replace him must be temting.

I believe the Nets would do this move. Mozgov is on a big contract, but it's not close to a max deal. The Lakers pick is going to be a lottery pick and the Nets have time. Russell is having a great year, but he's already playing for a big contract. So the pick, would give the Nets time for a descent rebuilt.

11 Dec 2017 14:53:01
That all depends on how much you believe Ainge. He claims that he would have picked Tatum with the #1, so the picks would likely have been either Fultz and Jackson or they would have traded back. I doubt that Philly would have traded up (using the #2 and the 2019 Kings in this scenario) to get the #1 for Fultz since they could have one of him or Ball at 2 guaranteed.

Either way, I don't think Philly does this with as high as they were/ are on Simmons.

11 Dec 2017 14:55:02
Js they would one and two.

16 Dec 2017 01:52:41
Simmons is untouchable. That’s one hell of a package, but Ben is averaging 18/ 9/ 8 without an effective jumper. Once he gets confidence from 15 to 18 feet with his jumper he will be an elite player. He has the potential to have a Lebron Esq impact on the Sixers. None of Ball, Ingram, or Tatum have that kind of ceiling.

11 Dec 2017 11:03:48
OKC: Clarkson, Kuzma, Brewer


Lakers: PG13


Doubt if James leaves CAVS, but if he does, creates that space. OKC will still be competitive. Clarkson another ball handler. Anthony, and Kuzma is good small ball, and Brewer expires, but can still play D for this season. PG13 comes home. Where he belongs

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11 Dec 2017 13:29:15
Unless LeBron goes to LA, I'm not sure why George would want to play for a lottery team.

11 Dec 2017 14:39:45
That would be an overpay for LA. They trade two young pieces for a player that's a free agent next year. The C Anthony trade to NY proves that's a bad idea.

If PG13 likes the Lakers, he would sign with them next summer.

I do like this trade for OKC.

12 Dec 2017 04:56:10
Yumbo. Lakers are only a few games behind OKC. Just think if they added George without losing anybody. They would not be a lottery team. Plus the young guys would be a year more seasoned and have the all star to bail them out that they don’t have now. OKC with George and Anthony do not look like a contending team and with no spending money. Lakers can get 2 big contracts to add to them. So in my opinion the Lakers have a better chance than OKC. But I am a Lakers fan so I might be a little bias.

12 Dec 2017 17:54:34
toolguy Anthony isn't appearing to be tradeable, so OKC is looking to eat crow for another season with him. Better surround him, so he isn't as much of a liability. Watch an OKC game, and tell me he isn't a defensive liability. Good bail out shot guy, but they have Westbrook, and Paul. How many do you need? Look how improved the Knicks became? What Jarret Jack is the turn around, Hardaway? I don't think so. George is probably already letting OKC know if this doesn't turn around he better be traded, and gives no guarantees he won't opt out unless its the Lakers. The tampering B. S. That Indy whined about is the only reason he isn't a Laker. Owner's personal bias overriding good business sense. Happens all the time. Pissing contest. Like all pissing contests it usually never ends up well. OKC stepped in it. Now they are a mess.

11 Dec 2017 08:23:37
DAL/UTA

DAL get Favors, Burks & 1st rd pick

Pg Smith
Sg Burks
Sf Matthews
Pf Nowitzki
Ce Favors

UTA get Barnes

Pg Rubio
Sg Mitchell
Sf Hood
Pf Barnes
Ce Gobert

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11 Dec 2017 09:03:07
It's a good trade as long as that is a playoff team pick. Burks is going to be dealt more than likely along with Favors. We will find out soon what Utah decides to do. Both Johnson, and Hood can Play the 2, so I'm not sure. Have to fill Favors shoes as well. Need a Back up for Gobert.

11 Dec 2017 08:05:02
Pelicans - Harrison Barnes

Mavs - Omir Asik, Solomon Hill, Cheick Diallo, 2018 unprotected 1st round pick, 2019 2nd round pick

Pels lineup

PG - Rondo - Nelson
SG - Holiday - Moore
SF - Barnes - Miller
PF - Davis - Cunningham
C - Cousins - Ajainca.

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11 Dec 2017 09:37:15
dallas won´t give away barnes for a pick in the range 15-25. Better trade by the way would be matthews and mejri for asik, hill, diallo, 1st rounder 2018 and 2nd rounder 2019.

12 Dec 2017 06:27:03
Wesley Mathews has no value, much less a 1st rounder, and multiple players.

 


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