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27 Jul 2017 14:31:21
Portland: K Love+ K Irving

Cleveland: D Lillard+ Turner+ Z Collins+ 1rnd pick Portland 2018

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27 Jul 2017 19:26:55
I'm not certain how intrigued Cavs would be in that offer with Collins looking extremely raw and Turner not a good fit in the starting lineup as a ball dominant forward who can't shoot. Aminu or Harkless would be better options for Cavs as versatile forwards who don't need the ball as much are good defenders and although neither are great shooters they are better than Turner (also both are younger and cheaper) . Maybe throw in Davis who can play a backup big but I still don't think its that attractive an offer (Irving for Lillard is fine but return on Love leaves a lot to be desired.

26 Jul 2017 16:46:53
Suns

PHX- Lamarcus Aldridge
SAS- Dwayne Wade, TJ Warren
CHI- Tyson Chandler, Danny Green, 2020 PHX pick (top 10 protected)

PHX- Kyrie Irving
CLE- Eric Bledsoe, Dragon Bender, 2018 MIA pick, 2018 PHX pick (top 5 protected), 2021 MIA Pick


C- Allen Williams/Alex Len (re-sign)
PF- Lamarcus Aldridge/Marquese Chriss
SF- Josh Jackson/Jared Dudley
SG- Devin Booker/Elijah Milsap
PG- Kyrie Irving/Tyler Ulis

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26 Jul 2017 18:08:49
If Suns got Kyrie I could see them bringing in Aldridge especially at this modest price. Issue is don't think Spurs would let him go that easily and don't get why they'd send Danny Green away (especially where he'll waste away on a bad team) .

I think that is a great return for Cavs (although they probably should move some of those picks. It would be even better for Cavs if they moved one of those picks to Bulls for Green (would make sense for both sides and Cavs can add Frye for salary) .

A core of Irving, Booker, Jackson and Chriss is solid even without the Aldridge trade and even if he opts out they have cap space to make a run at someone next year (do they have the max to offer Cousins since that would be a scary lineup) .

26 Jul 2017 16:45:55
Rockets - Melo

Mavericks - Ryan Anderson, E'Twann Moore, Omir Asik (Stretch to clear cap to resign Nerlens Noel)

Knicks - Eric Gordon, Dwight Powell, Devin Harris, 2018 protected 1st from Pels

Pelicans - Wesley Mathews, Kyle O'Quinn

Lineups

Rockets

PG - Paul
SG - Harden
SF - Ariza
PF - Melo
C - Capela

Mavericks

PG - Smith
SG - Moore
SF - Barnes
PF - Dirk/ Anderson
C - Noel

Knicks

PG - Harris/ Dtilikena
SG - Gordon
SF - Hardaway
PF - Porzingus
C - Hernangomez

Pels

PG - Rondo
SG - Holiday
SF - Mathews
PF - Davis
C - Cousins.

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26 Jul 2017 17:20:38
So knicks get Gordon (6th man of the year), Harris (capable vet pg), Powell (young big with upside) AND a #1 pick for melo ( a guy they have zero leverage in a trade with)? Ok. That ain't happenin.

26 Jul 2017 20:11:26
No one wants Asik. And Dallas would be the only team to take on R. Anderson without asking for a draft pick in return.

27 Jul 2017 14:54:19
Really jvoung? Powell is a young big with upside? Harris has some actual value? Go on. Tell me more about their great values.

27 Jul 2017 17:45:45
Burgerboy: You really are hilarious. I said nothing about great value". My exact words "capable vet". And Powel is a young big with some upside. NOWHERE DID I MENTION GREAT. And its a joy to see the way you "omit" to mention the first rd pick and Gordon in your reply. Love the way you just pick out part of the post and blatenly misrepresent what I said in order to make such a feeble argument. Sorry Melos return value is so low.

27 Jul 2017 23:49:42
The first pick which you neglected to mention has protections? Well dang, go on a hypocritical tirade about omitted details. Lol. Seriously fool. Harris has some good value and Powell has some serious upside.

We all know. Knicks won't even get Brandon knight for melo. Isn't that essentially what you've been saying for a year now? Oh lord I hope they get some return. Then listen to how you spin that.

Congrats on embiids return to greatness. For 3 hours. And then back to the disabled list. Too bad champ. But hey. He's winning the battle on twitter with lavar ball. Who needs to win games on the court. Blahhhhh

23 million for reddick. Hysterical.

28 Jul 2017 16:49:53
Hamburger: I'm going to take the high road on this one and stick to comments about the post.

28 Jul 2017 20:01:47
Sorry you can't take criticism on your comments. Wow. Then going off on a embiid - redick tangent which has nothing to do with the discussed post. Again. Wow. Sorry you are so disgruntled. i'm sticking to comments on the above post, not personal attacks.

28 Jul 2017 21:41:31
Wait. You said you took the high road. Then approximately 4 minutes later took the low road?

Jeeze.

FYI. Burgerboy = personal attack
Failing to note that it was a protected first = not commenting on post

You are the best example of do as I say not as I do.

I'm going to take the high road. Which means wait at least 12 minutes before immediately taking the low road. I'm thinking of a phrase. Rhymes with trypocritical holl

King of personal jabs. What a joke.

28 Jul 2017 22:49:25
Someone at nba trade rumors please inform hamburger that I posted the se ond post last night. It was delayed and edited, unknowing to me. So then i losyed the " taking the higher road" post this morning. Then, again not known to me, the post from last night was posted. So ots not the order that it was said. And you called me a fool. Little bit different then having fun with a silly fake ne like " hburger". c'mon man I got sucked into your childishness again. You ate the wimner Burger.

03 Aug 2017 05:20:07
Burger vs Jvoug almost as exciting as Knicks vs Sixers. Imagine both teams were actually good in bottom feeding east. Smh take a chill pill guys.

26 Jul 2017 15:50:54
Bucks: Irving

Cleveland: J Parker+ Brogdon+ Maker+ Hawes+ 1rnd pick 2018 and 2020

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26 Jul 2017 17:01:09
If I'm Cavs not sure I'd want Parker as headliner of a trade due to the associated risks and that he likely won't give you much this upcoming season (Likely won't be back until February and will take him time to get back to speed) . I think this is great value tho.

That is a lot of upside for Bucks to give up not sure if they'd be willing to part with all that.

27 Jul 2017 02:48:56
I believe that's too much Irving until you find out about Parker I don't think mil is. The right fit for irving.

27 Jul 2017 02:52:18
At least this guys not saying giannis to cavs like that other guy.

26 Jul 2017 15:47:41
Cavaliers Starting Lineup

Chris Paul
Dwyane Wade
Carmelo Anthony
LeBron James
Kevin Love.

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26 Jul 2017 17:13:50
If Rockets were willing to part with Paul (Send them Kyrie) Cavs could probably make it work by dealing Kyrie, Thompson and necessary pieces to make salary work. Not sure they should however. Not a fan of that team however. Their window would be relatively short and don't like how they'd matchup with Warriors with Wade and Melo being bad defenders and don't see the trades necessary to create this team helping the Cavs depth.

I do like the idea of Love at center. Cavs have used it in the past and i think its something they should use more since on offense it improves spacing and can get the opposing big away from the rim so he can't contest shots and rebound. Defensively Love isn't going to be good regardless where you put him and teams will still run pick and rolls with his man but centers with a post up game are a dying breed and teams shy away from post ups altogether so I think the damage is minimized.

26 Jul 2017 01:50:09
FA solid fits

Tor - B. Diaw or J. Green

Bos - J. Mcgee or M. Plumlee

Bkn - N. Mirotic

Was - A. Morrow

Okc - D. Lee

Tor/Nyk - G. Green


What ya think?

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26 Jul 2017 04:32:02
I like the fits from a basketball standpoint. Not sure if Raptors would have enough money to get J. Green or Boston to get Mason Plumlee (who Nuggets probably won't let go since they gave up so much to get him) . McGee would be a solid option for Cavs too although they probably aren't as attractive now. He was disappointed with Warriors using their MLE on Young and not him so Cavs would at least (likely) give him an opportunity to get back at them when it matters most in the finals.

26 Jul 2017 16:02:57
I think the thunder could use gerald green. Need more shooting and another athlete wouldn't hurt and you can put george at the 4 and green at the 3 if a small ball lineup us needed. He would be a good spark coming off the bench.

25 Jul 2017 21:53:50
76ers pipe dream

2017/ 18 lineup:
PG: Fultz, McConnell, Bayless
SG: Redick, Luwawu, Korkmaz
SF: Covington, Saric, Stauskas
PF: Simmons, Johnson, Anderson
C: Embiid, Holmes, Okafor

2018 OFFSEASON

-Try dumping the contracts of Bayless and Okafor using draft picks (if they can't trade Okafor then just decline his team option)

-Renounce rights to Stauskas, Johnson, Covington

-Sign LeBron James 2yr max
-Re-sign Joel Embiid 3yr 54m (player option on last year and last year is non-guaranteed; this is so if Embiid stays healthy he can opt out and get more money, but if he's not worth the contract and stays hurt then the 76ers can just waive him)
-Sign Avery Bradley 3yr 56m
-Re-sign Amir Johnson 1yr room exception
-Sign Vince Carter 1yr minimum
-Sign Jameer Nelson 1yr minimum
-Sign Spencer Hawes 1yr minimum

2018/ 19 Lineup:
PG: Fultz, McConnell, Nelson
SG: Bradley, Korkmaz, Carter
SF: James, Luwawu, Anderson
PF: Simmons, Saric, Hawes
C: Embiid, Johnson, Holmes.

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25 Jul 2017 23:15:18
Only issue I see is unless they agree to an extension with Embiid before FA starts some bad team is going to give him a 4yr max contract due to the immense talent he has flashed when healthy. Embiid's camp likely knows this so don't think he'd settle for anything less than a 4yr max and 76ers will have to take that risk. Another significant injury this season is the only thing that could prevent him from getting the max.

25 Jul 2017 23:18:58
Also, love Bradley signing for 76ers. Before 76ers signed Reddick or Celtics Hayward I thought they should've tried to get him with Celtics unlikely to be able to pay him and 76ers could give assets that would've potentially helped Celtics land George or Butler.

James would be wise to stay in the east provided he wants a solid shot to win another ring. Celtics may be more built to win now but 76ers are probably most promising team in the east and if James stuck around he could ride the coat tails of the team as he declines and this team matures. He and Simmons would be an awkward fit together since they are very similar style players but James would also be an invaluable mentor for him.

26 Jul 2017 03:33:14
I think bradely replacing redick and bringing on LBJ, the low balling embiid and cutting salary isn't needed. The sixers are in great cap space. Should be an interesting year.

26 Jul 2017 06:04:34
I think Embiid and Bradley may be willing to take a little less for a chance at a ring. I mean why would you not? You're still making millions.

27 Jul 2017 23:57:16
Sixers are in great cap space because they have no one who's won games in the NBA. Or played games in the NBA. Or actually. Really have t played in college either.

What I find hysterical is the future is reliant on 3 guys. These 3 guys, combining NBA and all there college experiences, played less than an average college senior.

Hysterical.

Also. Is it just me or didn't embiid prove this year more than his "potential" that he will never be able to play for an actual season? I mean seriously. Broken after 2 games in college. Broken and missed his first year. Broken and missed his second year. Broken after 30 games in his 3rd year.

But hey, sweet warm up line dunk bro. Sweet dunk.

24 Jul 2017 19:49:22
I'm hoping garpax and hoiberg get fired this coming season Jerry needs to sell the bulls he doesn't care made his money from the 90s look at the cubs they got new ownership gm few years champs would love if tom ricketts bought the bulls.

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25 Jul 2017 01:49:15
Now would seem like a bad time to sell the Bulls with them having just traded their superstar however, they are a big market team, iconic franchise name so they should easily fetch north of 2 billion. Also, they could easily get on fans good side by cleaning the front office while simultaneously being able to change the culture and build this young team from the ground up (plenty of cap space too) .

24 Jul 2017 05:14:37
Theoretically, if the Cavs trade Lebron what do you think are the best landing spots for him. Obviously the rumor is the Lakers, but it seems as though there are better places.

Boston would be pretty ideal with their combination of young talent and ability to compete now. As he declines the young players could begin to pick up the slack.

San Antonio would be pretty interesting. The combination of him, Leonard, and Pop would be able to compete with the Warriors potentially.

Houston, Minnesota, and the Thunder would all be great landing spots.

What do you think would be the best landing spot in a Lebron trade (assuming he oks anywhere).

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24 Jul 2017 05:46:32
There's just no reason for him to want to be traded, because in a trade, the team he'd be going to would have to give up a lot of value to get him which would likely significantly worsen the team before LeBron got on it. It makes much more sense for LeBron to go to a new team as a free agent so the other team doesn't have to really give up anything.

24 Jul 2017 07:03:16
Trading Lebron would be so complicated I'm not sure it could happen. Lebron has most of the power as he can control what team he goes to and in a sense can limit what Cavs get in return by vetoing the trade. He obviously wouldn't want the team he is going to completely gutted in the trade but he also has to have Cavs getting enough value back that they'd be willing to trade him. I think that would be a difficult balance to reach especially since Cavs with Lebron are still likely favorites to make it to the finals.

Lebron is versatile enough to fit in any good team (and he is good enough for the team to adjust to suit his play style) but based upon his ball-dominant play style he could create a significant adjustment period for certain teams. I can't think of any team sticking out as a much better fit than the rest but with Lebron wanting rings he would probably be best suited staying in the less competitive eastern conference. I guess Celtics would be the best since they are the best team in east outside of Cavs. However, just matching salaries in a trade would be tough for them. They would have to include Horford and Morris Crowder, Tatum, Brown, Smart or IT for salary to work. They wouldn't have much cap space to add a center so they'd likely be rolling with Baynes and a guy they can get for min (do celtics still have MLE? ) but I guess that isn't much different than Warriors.

24 Jul 2017 20:43:01
I'm sticking with my notion that Golden State could obtain LeBron if they wanted with a Thompson and Green offer. Very unlikely, but I think it helps GS with their future luxury tax issue (and they get the arguable best player in the league) . Cleveland would receive excellent value in my opinion.

Lineups (give or take) :
Cleveland-
T. Thompson
Love
Green
K. Thompson
Irving

Golden State-
Zaza
LeBron
Durant
N. Young (or Shaun or Iggy)
Curry.

24 Jul 2017 00:40:47
I'm calling bluff on James saying he "wouldn't be willing to waive his no trade clause for Cavs". Doesn't mean much with him saying it now and is likely just to try and persuade Cavs to not do a full rebuild.

I can't believe that Lebron would want to stay with Cavs if they blew things up and waste a year of his prime on a team with no shot at winning a title. That he wouldn't even entertain the thought and explore the possibilities in that scenario is absurd.

The sad thing is that as long as Cavs have Lebron they'll still likely make it to at least the eastern conference finals no matter who else is on their roster.

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24 Jul 2017 05:06:13
Agree with you that Lebron would waive it for the right team if the Cavs blow up the roster. He isn't going to waste the end of his prime out of stubbornness.

 


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