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04 Nov 2018 18:16:55
What do you think in today's games Sac kings +9.5 against bucks -9.5 and Toronto -3 against lakers +3 I've gone Sac kings +9.5 into Toronto -3 I think Toronto are specials today your thoughts

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04 Nov 2018 20:47:05
TOR -3

Kings +9.5

Kings are gritty, shouldn't get blown out, but could by the bucks. Raptors if Leonard is playing, Lakers if Leonard is out.

05 Nov 2018 02:16:49
I’d take Toronto. Hindsight is 20/ 20, I suppose, but trusting the Kings was probably to early.

05 Nov 2018 03:06:25
The Lakers are down by 30 in the 1st qtr. Ibaka has 20 pts. Unreal!

05 Nov 2018 07:15:07
Yeah kings let me down but got out on TORONTO.

03 Nov 2018 20:46:31
Is there a way that okc adds griffin to their core of Russ, PG, and Adams by sending Schroder to a pg needy team like the suns and picks to the Pistons?

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03 Nov 2018 21:08:22
With the casey hiring and the seeming interest in making the playoffs in DET, I'd have to say you couldn't get Griffin without talent and picks.

03 Nov 2018 21:17:23
Not the way griffin is playing. He’s been great. They’d want some real assets, not just a late first or two with a bad contract.

04 Nov 2018 14:30:45
I’m not sure Griffin is a good fit next to Westbrook. He likes the ball in his hands, he’s not much of a shooter, and he clogs the lane up. A potential starting line up that has Westbrook, Roberson, Griffin, and Adams is an offensive disaster in today’s NBA.

04 Nov 2018 17:34:46
Griffin shoots from all over the court and at a decent clip for a big man. Not sure why you say he only shoots from in the paint. He shot over 300 threes last year and currently shooting like 45% from deep. He doesn’t need the ball in his hands. He’s one of the best passing bigs in the league.

What are you basing that evaluation on?

05 Nov 2018 02:37:06
I suppose he’s a little better shooter than I was thinking, but he’s a career 33 percent shooter. It’s solid if you have other shooters, but he can’t be the 2nd best shooter in your starting lineup. Also, for him to make those passes he needs the ball. Having the ball in your hands doesn’t just mean that you are shooting. His usage rate is currently right between Lebron and Curry’s. Last year he was right inbetween DerozN and Wall. He’s at his best when the iffense runs through him and he can create for himself and others. Taking the ball out of his hands diminishes how effective he can be. He isn’t a spot up shooter. Plus, if you put him in the pick and role with Russ for large chunks of the game everyone, but the guy guarding George can basically collapse on them because Roberson and Adams can’t shoot. So in the starting lineup you’re basically going to use him as a spot up shooter? He’s also a below average defender. Why trade multiple picks/ players to pay a guy 35 Million that doesn’t fit in with your already expensive and thin team?

05 Nov 2018 18:12:34
Right. Point being, he actually has the ability to spread the offense, not condense it. That 33% is misleading, as it was when he was taking 1 or 2 3s a game. its likely more around 36ish, which is league average and great for a big man.

As to the usage rate, that really isn't a good statistic to look at in a vacuum. The team has no real pg. He scores a lot and passes very well. he's going to have the ball often. That statistic merely shows he is heavily involved. AKA, passing a lot and scoring efficiently.

05 Nov 2018 19:47:29
He was 31st last year among qualifying pfs in 3 point shooting percentage. He’s not putting great in anyone from 3 point range. He’s not worth the money or assets for the Thunder unless the rest of the roster is heavily overhauled.

05 Nov 2018 23:11:06
No one said he was elite at 3. You specifically said he has no range. Which you then admitted was incorrect to say. A pf that is averaging 25/ 11/ 5. You don’t think that’s of value?

The premise was they keep the core. So what, he isn’t a major major upgrade over grant?

Just stop it. Griffin is a top 30 player in the league and one could contend so far top 15. That team would be solid. Simply need to add a shooter or two, which there always available ones.

06 Nov 2018 16:54:14
I just don’t see Griffin as the missing link to make OKC a legitimate top 3 or 4 team in the league or make them a threat to upset the Warriors. If you’re going to give up the last few assets you have and lock in those kind of luxury payments that’s what he needs to be. He doesn’t complement the rest of the roster and he would be hard to maximize. I’m not arguing that adding Blake Griffin would make their team worse. If they could add him without giving players up for the minimum then sure great addition, but to get rid of a couple rotation players and more future picks doesn’t make sense. Using those some of those assets and money to go get guys like Ariza, Bazemore, and/ or Korver would make more sense, be cheaper, and imo make a bigger impact.

02 Nov 2018 17:49:23
If LBJ wants Walton out, Johnson/Pelinka/Buss/millions of Lavar ball haters are going to look really stupid for the smack they talked last season. It's funny the last comment I can find from Lavar Ball about anything Lakers, is him calling LBJ the strongest and therefore the best player in the game currently. This is getting juicy!

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02 Nov 2018 20:23:56
Magic is trying to blame Walton for his offseason failures. He gave him a team that didn’t make sense and has a bunch of unknowns. Now, he’s wondering why the players don’t fit together and why Walton is having trouble finding rotations that work?

Lebron has wanted every coach that isn’t his guy out. He wanted Splostra out and he’s widely considered one of the better coaches in the NBA. He had a big hand in Blatt being fired. Etc.

Ball was blaming Walton for Lonzo not being what Lavar talked him up to be.

Walton took a bad team and made them atleast serviceable last year. I have no idea how good he is as a coach, but the Lakers record the past few years and bad start to this year shouldn’t be blamed on him.

02 Nov 2018 21:57:41
Last season Lavar Ball and the Walton debacle started because Lavar ball said Walton should be pushing his son harder. I have no clue what you are talking about with the blame game story above. That may have come after, but what started it was Lavar saying Walton was being soft as a coach to his son. The team is lousy constructed and I think it is hasty to can Walton but as you say LeBron and his posse have some say wherever they go, right?

03 Nov 2018 18:02:46
This is the NBA. It’s about guys buying into the system, not pushing them. We see how well pushing guys has been working for other coaches like Thibs and etc. I think Walton had a young team buying in last year. They overachieved, played secent defense and moved the ball. It’s completly possible Lebron or Magic push Walton out, but to put any blame on him at this point is just deflecting by all these guys.

03 Nov 2018 18:55:33
I agree rkenne_16. I think to rip Walton out of their right now shows hasty, immature, irrationality that won't go unnoticed by future free agents and their Agents, who aren't particularly fond of Rich Paul as it is. That being said, I think Walton is on a short leash. Even to finish like the Nuggets did last season just shy of the playoffs would be a huge improvement for the Lakers. Expectations are a little high in LA. I've always had them @7, 8 or out of the playoffs this season.

03 Nov 2018 20:06:26
Unless Lebron missed a decent chunk of games, I’d be pretty surprised if they missed the playoffs. Lebron s is really good and it’s not like that team doesn’t have some talent. The team will start to figure out playing with each other and they’ll make some small deals to add some shooting and etc. They’ll end up somewhere between 3 and 7. It’s hard for me to imagine them getting out of the first round without a big move though.

03 Nov 2018 20:53:23
Throw 4 1sts @ wolves for Butler if you're the Lakers? And a young piece? Hart, Ball? Thibs would cut his right thumb off first!

04 Nov 2018 02:45:25
If kcp accepts trade and Beasley with HartAnd 3 first. Wolves can add another team to take gibson and kcp plus those 3 first to get another player likke Love.

04 Nov 2018 14:07:00
I'm guessing money and hurt feelings still, will block Kevin love to the wolves.

02 Nov 2018 16:39:34
What are your picks?
Lac -3.5 @ Orl. - clips

Hou -4.5 @ Brk. - nets

Okc @ Was -2.5. - wiz

Ind -7.5 @ Chi. - pacers

Ny @ Dal - 6.5. - NY

Mem @ Uta -7.5. - griz

Tor -11.5 @ Phx. - raps

Min @ Gsw -11.5. - gsw

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02 Nov 2018 16:51:36
Clippers, Nets, Thunder, Pacers, Knicks, Griz, Suns, and Timberwolves.

02 Nov 2018 22:26:41
Ive been doing well this year one team I just catch is the wizards I am just backing Dallas -5.5 today just slightly better line than your market good luck.

03 Nov 2018 00:23:59
Wiz are off to a good 1st qtr so far!

03 Nov 2018 01:06:55
Boy was the 2nd a bummer.

03 Nov 2018 03:47:06
Yeah dal lost on the raptors live betting -4.5 against sun second Q they big second half from the Claw.

03 Nov 2018 08:07:51
2 more points from the raps and I would have broken even for the night!

01 Nov 2018 19:30:25
LAC V.S. PHI -5.5

My money is on the clips!

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01 Nov 2018 22:20:00
I’d go philly I got out of jail yesterday I took Dallas +7.5 today I took Denver-5.5 against Cavs.

02 Nov 2018 00:05:52
Btec- how much did you bet?

02 Nov 2018 00:24:33
Nice call on that Dallas line, I like the Den bet too. Good luck with the injustice system, hope you win enough to cover what ever they are trying to shake you down for!

02 Nov 2018 04:15:22
Shiller41, $25.

01 Nov 2018 07:29:05
How was ball in that game

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02 Nov 2018 17:16:45
how was he the 2 beforehand? if 12pts, 7 assists and 4 rebounds is the standard for bragging on the second overall pick. congrats, you got the new version of Darko lol.

03 Nov 2018 02:20:29
Ball being a second pick and now playing behind James kuzma Ingram 4 th option that is pretty solid numbers but he has allot of improvements though.

He played first two games okay then next three where great and next two lousy then last game good so overall that's solid.

03 Nov 2018 14:38:41
Lol. That’s why you wait for a season as a sample size instead of claiming his shooting has been fixed after 5 games. And evaluating his abilities after every 2-3 games is so dumb.

Again. He may turn out to be a decent player in the league. But definitely shows glaring issues which will limit his potential. I can’t see him ever being an all star. He just isn’t that type of player. And frankly, I see him largely turning into jahlil okafor. Pads stats. Horrible defense. Ultimately not a foundational piece to a winner.

03 Nov 2018 18:41:49
It is fixed its up to him to keep it up.

01 Nov 2018 03:27:35
Maybe rose will get that sixth man of the year award? Looks like Sweet Lou has some competition

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01 Nov 2018 04:48:29
Doubt it very much. He'll get hurt somewhere along the season.

1 50 pt. game doesn't put him in the 6th man conversation.

01 Nov 2018 14:31:21
1 50 point game is exactly what throws someone into award talks.

01 Nov 2018 17:07:30
If he is solid after it sure. Consistency has been his issue for years.

03 Nov 2018 16:27:28
Injury! Ankle.

31 Oct 2018 23:25:04
Harrison Barnes traded to Chicago for Robin Lopez and Justin holiday.

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01 Nov 2018 00:01:09
Chicago yes, Dallas no.

31 Oct 2018 22:52:44
Knight Gordon and chriss plus four first for Butler and dieng

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31 Oct 2018 19:52:35
Pelicans V.S. GSW -10 pts

My money is on the pelicans. Davis is playing. How about you?

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31 Oct 2018 23:43:41

01 Nov 2018 14:32:05
And it was a push!

01 Nov 2018 16:11:32
Those sportsbook odd setters are good! Davis had a terrible game. His shooting was garbage.


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