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08 May 2018 23:49:16
Mega trade that I think works for every team

The Heat get Gasol(buyout), Smith(buyout), Gallonari, Clarkson, Nance, white, Forbes, Evans, thornwell, the 12th overall via LA, their own 2021 1st via PHX, and the Cleveland 2023 1st they save 45 million this year and 75 million next year.

They start a full rebuild (more moves after)

The Cavs get Whiteside, Dragic, Winslow, Richardson, T Harris,and Beverly

New line up
Dragic/Beverly
Richardson/Williams
Lebron/ Korver
Harris/Winslow
Love/Whiteside

The Clippers get Leonard, Green, Thompson, Mills's, Olynyk, and T. Johnson

Lineup
Mill/Rivers/Theodosic
Williams/T.Johnson
Leonard/Green
Olynyk/Harrell
Thompson/Marajnovic

The Spurs get Jordan(expiring), Hill(expiring), Osman, Zizic, the 8th pick via Cleveland, 13th via LA, 2021 1st via LA, 2023 via LA

Line up
Hill/Murray/Parker
Anderson/Manu
Gay/Osman
Aldridge/Bertans
Jordan/ Lauvergne
(Plus the 3 pick)

The Suns get a Cavs and Clippers 2nd, the Cavs 2021 1st, and J Johnson .

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08 May 2018 15:31:30
Outside of signing Lebron (I REALLY do not want to sign Lebron), what can the sixers do to compete with the Celtics at full strength?

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08 May 2018 16:00:55
Celtics know how to win we got same problem in Milwaukee with a young team learning how to win.

08 May 2018 16:17:54
I think Klay Thompson is a perfect fit in Philly.

08 May 2018 16:18:14
I would like P George signing in philly.
And maybe they can trade for Leonard. Fultz, Covington and a draftpick would be a great package for him.
PG13 and Leonard can both play off ball, score, shoot 3's and play defence.

C: Embiid/ Holmes
PF: Saric
SF: George
SG: Leonard
PG: Simmons.

09 May 2018 13:04:57
@NBA you think the Warriors will let him go? What would that trade offer look like?

@Gasupo, I tried passing that the other day and it was shut down. Maybe trade for McCollum? Totally agree with signing PG though. Either the line up you said or.
Simmons
McCollum
George
Saric
Embiid.

08 May 2018 13:41:58
Pels offseason

Trade # 1

Pels - Chris LeVert SG/ SF

Nets - Cheik Diallo PF/ C, 2019 2nd round pick

Trade #2

Pels - Evans Fournier SG/ SF

Magic - Solomon Hill SF/ PF, Alexei Ajainca (Waive), Future Protected 1st

Free Agents

Resign DeMarcus Cousins C
Resign Rajon Rondo PG

Use Midlevel to fill out the rest of the roster

Lineup

PG - Rondo - Jackson
SG - Holiday - Moore
SF - Fournier - LeVert
PF - Davis - Mirotic
C - Cousins - Okefor.

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08 May 2018 16:21:54
I like the second trade, Magic fans will disagree, but they should go for a total rebuilt and they can use draft picks.

Can't see the Nets trading LeVert for that.

08 May 2018 02:33:07
LA CLIPPERS dream off season

Jordan opts out

talk to CHI for Gallinari deal

CHI-LAC

CHI- Gallinari + 13th pick
LAC- 2nd rd pick (protected)

waive Marjanovic

TOR-LAC

TOR- Harris + Rivers (exp) + 12th pick + future 1st rd pick + 2nd rd pick

(get hometown boy)

sign P.George max 1+1 (hometown kid)
sign Ilyasova

resign Jordan now

PG- Beverley-Teodosic
SG- Derozan-Williams
SF- George-Thornwell-Dekker
PF- Ilyasova-Johnson
CE- Jordan-Harrell

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08 May 2018 04:24:19
I wouldn't give that much up for Derozan.

08 May 2018 05:51:54
rkenne, i was about to give Bradley (s&t) plus those picks to get Derozan but i think they wouldn't have enough money if Harris stays in the line up? What do you think?

08 May 2018 13:34:46
Why not go Gallonari, Beverly the 12 and 13.

08 May 2018 02:27:44
Wolves - Raptors - Magic

R get: Wiggins, Teague, Patton (OKC 1st if needed but I don't think it is)

Teague, VanFleet
Derozen, Wright
Wiggins, Anunoby
Ibaka, Patton
Valenciunas, Poetl

W get: Lowry, Miles, Siakam, Simmons

Lowry, Jones, Rose
Butler, (Draft Trent or Holiday)
Simmons, Miles
Gibson, Siakam, Bjelica
Towns, Dieng

M get: Powell, Aldrich (waive) 2019 Wolves 2nd

Way bigger move for MN and TOR but magic save money and get a 2nd

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08 May 2018 04:25:32
Timberwolves pass.

08 May 2018 05:52:54
Why would they pass this fills out their team perfectly with 3/ D players and gives them depth and they even save a little money.

08 May 2018 00:09:57
Kanter challenges Lebron to come to NY. He will never be his teammate in NY. He needs to opt out or by traded and Knicks need trade Porzingis Hardaway for Leonard. Lebron will not come to NY to play Kanter Porzingis Hardaway. Maybe Leonard Paul and Jordan.

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08 May 2018 02:27:35
Good luck with that man.

08 May 2018 15:42:52
shizzee and his fake knicks fan posts. awesome.

07 May 2018 13:31:45
PHI off season

TRADE:

SAS gets Covington, Fultz, Bayless, LAL 2018 1st round (probably 10)

PHI gets Leonard

DRAFT: projected pick 26 - Jalen Brunson (pg Villanova)

FREE AGENCY:

Resign Redick
Resign Belinelli
Resign Ilyasova
Resign Johnson
Sign Paul George
Sign Trevor Booker

2018-2019 LINE UP:

Simmons/McConnell/Brunson
George/Redick/TLC
Leonard/Belinelli/Anderson
Saric/Ilyasova/Booker
Embiid/Johnson/Holmes

ALSO:

Fultz is interchangeable with McConnell and TLC, Anderson, and Holmes, as well as any of the littany of second rounders the Sixers have could all be added to the trade.

All resignings have to be relatively cheap.

If Kawhi leaves in 2019, they can throw his money at Klay Thompson.

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07 May 2018 14:00:14
Spurs won't give up Leonard for that mess.

07 May 2018 15:34:24
why not? they have their pick of the litter in regards to high ceiling prospects and draft picks.

07 May 2018 19:22:14
also, the numbers don't even come close to working. The sixers would have to give george a max. so that would take them to about 100 mill in salary. And that's not even taking into account all the other signings and resignings. I assure you, Reddick isn't going to resign for 2 years 2 million. its not at all thought out. Embiid is making near 30 mill by the time they need to sign simmons to near 30 mill. i'm skeptical about the contract structure for the sixers. all this trust the process crap, the problem also is sustainability. rookie contracts balloon up, like embiid. then what?

07 May 2018 07:07:02
If someone like Dallas, who are desperate for a center, throws a max offer sheet to Capela, will Rockets match it? Personally I think not if they want to resign Paul and have a shot at LBJ.

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07 May 2018 09:44:00
They match. They probably expect it.

07 May 2018 04:32:32
Which teams do you think either need to completely blow it up or atleast partially blow it up this off season?

Some candidates are
Washington
Toronto
Portland
The Clippers (already partially did)
Memphis
Miami
Cleveland if Lebron walks
Detroit

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07 May 2018 04:54:34
Washington shouldn’t (maybe just explore Wall and Porter trades)

Toronto should run it back 1 more year

Portland should trade 1 of Lillard or McCollum

The Clippers should run it back

Memphis should trade Gasol

Miami should trade Whiteside

I don’t know about Cleveland

Detroit should run it back.

07 May 2018 15:45:55
Just to play devils advocate here

Why should Toronto keep the roster intact? Wasn't this there best shot of getting out of the East? The Celtics and 76ers will both be better next year. If Lebron stays, there's a good chance they find a way to significantly improve their roster. The Bucks will have a real coach next year and Giannis is growing by leaps and bounds every year. The Wizards could be better.

What if Portland can't get a solid deal for one of those guys? Do they shake it up even if they bring back less talent?

What is the upside of this Clippers team? Wouldn't it be better to trade off those role players, while they still have valueand are still there, Plus to keep their pick next year, they have to tank.

If you're trading Gasol, why are you trying to build around your pg that's over 30. He's on a huge contract and could end up being a 2nd Chandler Parsons, while right now he still probably has some value.

Can Miami find a decent trade for Whiteside? They have so much money wrapped up in mediocre players. They are a perennial first round out as constructed and they're missing picks. How does the roster improve? Not to mention their best player in Dragic is about to be over the hill.

If Lebron leaves what choice does Cleveland have, but to totally tear it down? Build around 30 year old Love? They could miss the playoffs and not get next year's pick if they don't go full rebuild. That seems like worst case scenario.

Detroit has so much money invested in that team and none of the pieces look like they fit. Why not sell off anything with value and cut your losses?

07 May 2018 02:32:32
likely packages from teams who might target Lowry

The Cavs -Hill, Clarkson, Osman and a future 1st

The Jazz -Rubio, Burk, 2 lottery protected 1sts

The Pacers- Collison, Sabonis and a 1st

The Heat Dragic and Richardson

The T Wolves- Teague, Dieng and 2 1sts

The Bucks -Bledsoe and Snell

Detroit- Griffin

New Orleans- Mirotic, Hill and a 1st

Philly-Bayless, TLC, the 26 and a future 1st

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07 May 2018 15:36:58
Philly does not want Lowry.

 


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