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31 Oct 2018 19:52:35
Pelicans V.S. GSW -10 pts

My money is on the pelicans. Davis is playing. How about you?

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31 Oct 2018 23:43:41
Pelicans.

01 Nov 2018 14:32:05
And it was a push!

01 Nov 2018 16:11:32
Those sportsbook odd setters are good! Davis had a terrible game. His shooting was garbage.

31 Oct 2018 19:22:53
Choose a team right now based only on what you have seen this season so far, that you believe can defeat the GSW in a 7 game series?

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31 Oct 2018 20:06:13
Toronto, if they can slow the pace down, they’d have a chance.

31 Oct 2018 20:22:26
No team so far.

31 Oct 2018 21:04:34
Utah and Toronto. Their defense and shooting can keep games close.

31 Oct 2018 21:35:52
Toronto and the Jazz are scrappy. Everyone in Toronto plays better when Leonard is on floor. Would like to see the full roster of the Bucks tested. The pelicans with Davis tonight should be pretty good.

31 Oct 2018 21:38:34
Bucks shoot the3 well defend it Well and rebound all weaknesses last year now strength sorry kinda a homer pick.

31 Oct 2018 22:09:17
Don’t forget about the Nuggets.

01 Nov 2018 00:12:33
Nuggets are a sleeper. Porter is the ultimate wild card, Thomas is the possible comeback player of the year. If all that clicks they will be tough.

31 Oct 2018 14:32:50
Rockets should have kept Ryan Anderson. They could have probably flipped him and a pick or two for love. Wolves obviously do not want to help Houston build a dynasty.

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31 Oct 2018 15:20:29
I feel like Knight and Chriss are probably just as valuable to the Cavs, if not more so given that Chriss is atleast young and Knight’s contract is smaller. It’s not like Anderson provides much of interest for a team in year 1 of a rebuild.

31 Oct 2018 16:52:25
It's a salary dump for the cavs both ways in a sense. I can see Chriss being a more appealing option but Knight especially with Sexton already there seems messed up with hill as well. Knight is injured though and probably won't factor in, as he'd be waived next season anyway, along with declining Hill's option. Maybe an expiring contract can help the cavs take on a contract and gain an asset next season? Waiving might be a little hasty.

31 Oct 2018 17:43:25
Yeah, I don’t know the time table for when Knight might be back, but I don’t think it really matters much to keep Knight on the roster. I’d rather see Knight playing alongside Sexton than Clarkson. Atleast Knight can shoot and is willing to pass the ball.

I’m not sure Hill is going to be on the roster by the end of February any way. He’s an interesting contract/ player that a good team could go after I’d they want to dump money and stay competitive. He can shoot, he’s a solid defender, and he play both guard spots pretty effectively. Without much thought, maybe Portland with Turner or the Grizzlies with Parsons could use some bench help and salary relief? Knights atleast a warm body to put at pg for spells, if Hill gets traded.

31 Oct 2018 18:53:21
Knight is a wild card. He could be pretty good if he's practiced shooting while he's been out. It's bombs away this season. With his passing, he fits in todays game well. Average to good defender too. So far, knight probably would be better than Clarkson.

31 Oct 2018 20:12:25
He’d atleast be better for the development of the players around him. Clarkson literally doesn’t pass the ball. It’s borderline ridiculous at times.

31 Oct 2018 01:54:05
What are your top 3 most overrated and underrated teams now?

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31 Oct 2018 03:32:04
Overrated

Jazz, Thunder, Celtics

Jazz is considered a threat to the Warriors but i don't see them as one, Thunder, i just feel they aren't good enough but some rank them as top 4 team, Celtics yes the roster is legit and is always a favorite to win the East but i can see them fall against Raptors or Bucks

Underrated

Clippers, Nuggets, Pacers

Clippers looks like a lottery team but the built of the roster is good for 7 or 8 seed in the west, Nuggets has a shot to get to the conference finals, Pacers too.

31 Oct 2018 15:43:25
Overrated
The Thunder- Outside of Adams, Westbrook and George that roster is garbage. They really don’t have anyone outside of George that can play 2-4 unless Roberson can come back and play something near where he was last year and even Roberson presents his own set of problems on offense. Their two big offseason moves (Noel and Schroeder) didn’t really fill their biggest holes.

The Wizards- I think most people looked at the talent they had and assumed they would get out of the East pretty easily despite their chemistry issues, but right now they look like an absolute mess. They might be the third most talented team in the East, but the situation looks grim.

The Cavs- They didn’t have big expectations coming into the season, but I think the general thinking was that they would be fairly competitive and that they had an outside shot at making the playoffs, if things went right. That just hasn’t been the case. Lue’s coaching/ firing, chemistry issues, confusion over direction, lack of defenders, lack of that can effectively get other people shots and offensive players that are black holes have just merged into a supernova of terrible selfish basketball. They may end up being the worse team in the league despite having some talent and experience.

The most Unnderated-

Denver- They were already an offensive machine and their defense seems to be coming around. They’re extremely deep and have more front end talent than I think most people realized before the season

Memphis-They were counted out before the season started, but adding Conley back, Gasol caring again, drafting a guy that can play well now in Jackson, and getting a decent wing in Anderson has them playing pretty well. They’ll be in the mix for a playoff spot in the West and would probably make it pretty easily in the East.

The Bucks- Apparebtly coaching matters.

Honorable mention- The Raptors.

31 Oct 2018 16:07:53
Overrated:

Nuggets: They’re in the pack with NO, Portland, etc. I don’t see any separation between those teams and Denver.

Thunder: same as Denver. They’re a good team, but I don’t think they could make the conference finals.

Cleveland: This was a personal overrating, though some writers had them as a fringe playoff team. I thought this was a playoff team in the east. They’re one of the worst teams in the NBA.

Underrated:

Portland: The opposite of Denver/ OKC. The trendy pick to miss the playoffs, yet they look better than they did last year. That bench went from bottom 10 in the league to top 10. And Lillard just gets better every year, he’s absolutely amazing.

Utah: Best defense in the NBA, great shooters, and a dynamic playmaker. They’re probably still one big time player away, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they won it all this year.

Toronto: Maybe not any more, but going into the season I thought they were overlooked. They’re the class of the east.

31 Oct 2018 16:56:37
Underrated
Sac
Mil
Atl

Overrated
PHI
MIA
Hou.

31 Oct 2018 17:10:56
Overrated Lakers
Okc
Rockets


Underrated kings
Grizzlies
Denver.

02 Nov 2018 14:37:03
overrated
Celtics - in terms of they will be equal or better than warriors with Hayward coming out from injury
Rockets
Wizards

underrated
Sacramento Kings - I am amazed that they are playing well, even they opted on developing young prospects and keeping their cap space for next year.
Nuggets
Pistons.

29 Oct 2018 21:02:59
N.O. @ DEN is going to be a good game I think. If Davis were playing I'd take the pelicans all day, but the point spread is -9.5 DEN, and I think I would bet the pelicans still with that many points. I think Jokic will have to score 30 to win with Barton out. Should be a good game or a Denver blowout if Jokic scores 30

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29 Oct 2018 16:29:27
Tonight will be Bucks vs Raptors.. who do you think will win??

One will be Undefeated after the game..

#WetheNorth
#FeartheDear

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29 Oct 2018 17:34:20
Raptors.

29 Oct 2018 18:01:09
Giannis is out, so Toronto. Also, I just think Toronto is better. It's early, but they're the best team in the East, and it might not be very close.

29 Oct 2018 18:44:38
If Giannis was playing, I'd choose the Bucks. They have a deeper team I think and have been playing good defense.

29 Oct 2018 21:11:24
I didn't know K. L. Was out too. Bucks. Good game probably. Tons of turn overs and missed shots. I think the bucks have the shooting edge against a wounded toronto defense.

28 Oct 2018 16:46:16
Cleveland Cavaliers fired Tyronn Lue

Finally he out coaching staffs

Bring Mark Jackson as a head coach

or Promote Larry Drew as a head coach

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28 Oct 2018 17:11:14
I don’t mind the firing. Lue didn’t seem to have much interest in trying to bring along young guys in his entire tenure. Some of that is Lebron, but I didn’t like the way Sexton was being used this year.

I think they need a guy specifically qualified for the rebuild. A college coach known for developing guys would be nice. Jay Wright would be my dream, but it might be a pipe dream. I guess Marc Jackson was involved in the Warriors development. It wouldn’t be the worst move.

I think you stick it out with Drew for the rest of the year though. At the end of the season, you’ll have the best chance at getting a high end coach.

28 Oct 2018 20:12:01
Mark Jackson would get the most out of sexton. He didn't hurt curry any from what I can tell.

30 Oct 2018 02:25:49
What do you guys think about Becky Hammon? I think that she has talent and working under Pop for the last few years has given her the experience needed to handle the head coach and do it effectively.

30 Oct 2018 03:26:40
It moves the needle little for me. I'd rather see her coach in the wnba and a former player in the nba get an opportunity before her. 30 isn't that many positions v. s. How many guys would like to coach a team.

30 Oct 2018 09:35:10
Yeah, definitely not enough guys getting opportunities to coach in the nba!

31 Oct 2018 17:45:43
The male / female storyline moves me little. Guys: Former NBA players who put their time in, in this league. You know the old fashioned way of giving things to those that earn and deserve it. Call me crazy.

28 Oct 2018 01:06:15
What if young players started doing this if they didn't like there teams.. don't sign any contract extensions and sign a two year deal with player option with the team you wanna play so if your team your on matches the next year you can leave with player option and sign with the team you wanted

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28 Oct 2018 02:31:41
A couple problems with that. 1st, it’s most players first big pay day. They don’t want to leave the guaranteed money on the table. Plus, they can lock in that sea a year early. It gives them long term financial security. 2nd, sure fire max guys aren’t going to draw offer sheets. Teams have no incentive to offer them. They aren’t pushing up the price for the guy and they don’t have a chance of the team not matching. 3rd, gms and the NBA probably don’t want it to happen.

28 Oct 2018 18:37:48
Say a guy like Simmons don't want to play in Philly and wanted to join another team because embiids health. So he becomes restricted free agent and signs with clippers for two year deal so Philly match the following year Simmons can play for the clippers by opting out that two year deal. He getting MAX money that year and controlling where he signs after his first four years in league becoming a unrestricted free agent. If I'm unhappy with my team success and direction this what I would pull. League can't do nothing to change that. It's a way around being an team you don't want to be. Just saying thatt would be crazyy.

28 Oct 2018 19:55:29
So the Clippers clear out max cap space. They then offer it to a guy who is going to be matched and get no one told that summer because every other max guy has already agreed by the time their money is freed up. They then have to hope that the 76ers don’t appease Simmons or shop him to a team he’s willing to sign with because he’s ineligible to be traded to them that year since he they tried to sign him to an offer sheet. The team takes a huge risk that they strike out 2 years in a row with a ton of money and risk other teams being less willing to deal with them.

Let’s not forget that the league could punish them for tampering as well. The league doesn’t seem to like the star movement, there were already rumors that the league might have gotten involved with the Paul George stuff and that wasn’t half as blatant as what your describing. If league didn’t get involved, the small market teams make up the majority of the league and their owners wouldn’t stand by and be ok with something like that happening. Even if, it somehow got through, it would be a sticking point at the next cba negotiations.

Also, Ben Simmons, who hasn’t signed a huge deal, gotten his own signature shoe, or any other ridiculous money turns down an extra 50 plus million dollars and waits a year before he locks in the first 50 million? That’s a pretty big risk to take just to get off the Sixers a year or 2 early. All of these guys are a health issue or major injury away from having their career yanked away from them.

28 Oct 2018 21:32:44
The team most likey would already have the cap like soon the team match you sign a couple one year deals, tank that year and clear cap to sign following year. Have a good pick too it's win win for the player and team who the player is going to. If the player Bail you will get the cap space you had before plus have a great pick.

29 Oct 2018 15:23:13
They don’t do it because of the money. These aren’t guys that have made 200+ million. They’re guys that have made 15-20. That first max deal is a huge life changing moment.

Also, finding a two year contract with a player option on year two as a restricted free agent probably isn’t as easy to get as you think. Why tie up a max contract spot on an offer sheet that will 100% be matched? It’s pointless for the team. And the team that owns the rights wouldn’t offer two years, its max years or take the QO and walk away from an enormous amount of money.

29 Oct 2018 16:53:27
Echoing the comments above, the flaw with this is not only betting on your talent but betting on your health. You used Simmons as an example. While he is great (minus shooting, I was at the game this weekend and seriously saw him miss 9 straight free throws in warm ups) he also did miss the entire first year. There are a lot of stud young players, but also many of them have serious health concerns. Its easy for us to say, wait and get paid in a year or two, but if you are someone offered 100 to 150 million, I assure you, you aren't passing that. 11 times out of 10 you are taking it.

30 Oct 2018 04:11:19
You will turn down if you don't want to be there because after the year after the next year you know you that great you going to get paid.

30 Oct 2018 14:18:47
There's a reason why it's never happened in the history of the NBA. Because the money is worth more than being in a good place. And most of the time that team is build building, so it's easy to think that you are building a championship contender 3 years into your career. Look at teams like NO (Davis), Portland (Lillard), Washington (Wall), Cleveland (Lebron), LAC (Blake), and I'm sure I could list quite a few more. All of those guys thought they were building a championship type team, and they all could have been on that path if things went differently.

And again, you have to convince a team to go along with this idea, which they wouldn't because it doesn't help them short term. A GM isn't going to help a player get a contract like that with the hope that you come to that team in a couple years. Likely, that GM is fired before that happens, or the player changes their mind and goes somewhere else (and then the GM is fired) .

30 Oct 2018 15:12:28
Yeah, again II. its rather easy for us to say we will turn it down for a year. But that isn't reality. Regardless of how much confidence you have in yourself, you still need to perform at a peak level to obtain a max contract. AND you need to not get injured. I don't care if you want out. sign and demand a trade. But no one. NO ONE. is rejecting 150 million, even if there is only a 20% chance you don't get it a year later. It just isn't reality, nor reasonable.

31 Oct 2018 00:11:23
I agree with you guys but I'm just saying that would be a crazy way to force your way out of a team.

27 Oct 2018 23:50:13
First 5 games ball almost averaging 13 points and 7 7 plus shooting 53 fg and 40 from downtown. I remember there where haters saying he couldn't improve so far so good. Went 2-1 when he started. Plus Hart is playing great for a role player. McGee is exceeding expectations and kuzma is balling. I said the Lakers could average 125 and so far they are there struggle is defense if that improves they going to be scary.



Btw the pelicans are surprising me so far I had them missing the playoffss.

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28 Oct 2018 14:50:50
Trusting lance and McGee is dangerous. Hart looks good but he is Lakers only two way young guy. Lonzo and rondo are the same guy and not sure it fits with lebron. If they average 125 they will give up 129.

28 Oct 2018 15:38:09
Scary? They’re a solid team because they have Lebron, but they will need Igram to take a big leap this year to even have a chance at getting out of the first round.

The whole team is just weirdly constructed.

Their 3 best scorers are all probably best suited for playing pf.
They have 1 serviceable center on the roster and he’s probably at his best playing 20 minutes a game.

They have 2 ball dominant pgs that don’t shoot, are weird fits next to their star, and can't play together.

In a league built around shooting, they have no one approaching an elite caliber shooter.

Their best perimeter defenders’ offensive games don’t fit next to their pgs or Lebron.

They have more problems than answers than any Lebron team in the past 9 or 10 years. They have more talent than possibly last year’s Cavs and definetly more than the pre decision Cavs, but those teams at least made sense from a team building sense. This team just seems like a weird 2k collection players that have the best ratings they could get.

28 Oct 2018 18:42:41
If you can play solid defense and average 120 plus that's scary.

There team built so the youth can grow. And go after another star next year. They signed the best players available to them not fits.

28 Oct 2018 20:23:40
Sure, if they score a lot and don’t give up a lot, they’ll win more games.

The problem is that playing with pace isn’t just you scoring more points, the other team does as well. You can add in Kuzma playing center and Lebron conserving his energy on defense as problems as well. They’ll get a little better with continuity, but to truly fix their defense, they’ll need to make changes that will hamper their offense.

I agree that they signed the players that they deemed the best talent they could acquire, but I’d argue that it’s a bad strategy. Personality and fit matter. Just for example, Lebron, Igram, Rondo, Ball, Stephenson, Beasley, and Kuzma are all guys that need the possessions to be at their best, but there is only one ball. Rondo, Ball, Beasley, Stephenson, Mcgee, and Lebron all bring a lot of baggage to the lockerroom. If they keep piling up losses, guys don’t get minutes or guys don’t get their touches (the last 2 are inevitable), will they start disrupting the lockerroom? The Lakers are already messy. There is a chance that it gets worse. Again, Lebron can carry them through a regular season, but beyond that it’s hard to see much else this year and it’s going to look bad at times along the way.

28 Oct 2018 21:41:37
Your missing the Lakers plan.

They signed those players because there the best they could and have cap for next year. This year is a learning year for the youth to grow and Lakers hopefully sign another star to play with James ball Ingram Hart kuzma and others. But McGee rondo Stevenson kcp and Beasley are one year rentals. Defense takes time to gel plus the suspensions made it worse.

29 Oct 2018 15:25:58
If it’s a year to build the young guys, why sign those vets and take minutes away from the youth? Rondo is the perfect example. He won’t be happy coming off the bench, why get him and limit Ball’s minutes?

29 Oct 2018 17:12:38
How are you pumping up a team that is 2-4, and one of those wins is against the freaking suns. Their problems are what everyone said they were. outside of lebron, no one is looking too special. Their defense is horrific. And thus far, all of the top tier max players have already made it clear they don't want to play with lebron.

For the lakers organization, this is a failure. You don't sign a guy who will be 34 soon, with the hopes of building a solid surrounding team by the time he is what, 35/ 36?

The lakers organization really doesn't seem to have a legit plan. Its all based on signing this mystery max player, which will not put them over the edge of contender.

Also, as a side note, ball is averaging less across the board with the exception of pts, which is up half a point a game. He is proving to be a decent stat stuffer, but not a game changer. Who knows, perhaps hell learn defense some day.

30 Oct 2018 04:13:18
Ball improved his fg and 3 pt % which was a big flaw.

30 Oct 2018 15:18:03
His big flaws are his shooting and his defense. His defense is still horrible. His Free throws are currently at 57%, which is horrible. His 3 is at 36% which is average. And this was after a 7 game sample size (way too small) .

If you actually look at metrics beyond merely the shooting percentages, so far, he is one of the worst players in the league.

Offensively, his team's ORtg is 14 points better when he is off the court.

Defensively, his team's DRtg is 12 pts better when he is off the court.

His overall effect on the court is almost negative 26. THAT IS HORRIFIC.

30 Oct 2018 15:23:46
The really sad thing about the lakers and their confusing offseason. you have the best player in the league at the back end of his prime, and it will be wasted. They likely will have trouble simply making the playoffs, which makes it even less attractive for the mysterious max free agent to sign (even though all that have given any information have stated they had little to no interest playing with lebron before they started losing) .

31 Oct 2018 00:30:20
To me the Lakers are doing okay compared to Houston and OKC.

31 Oct 2018 21:32:27
3 over hyped teams that’s are bombing. However. Houston has a valid reason. Injuries and suspensions. Lakers are just bad.

27 Oct 2018 17:55:40
My final standings predictions after the first week of the NBA Season


EAST
1. Raptors
2. Celtics
3. Bucks
4. 76ers
5. Pacers
6. Pistons
7. Hornets
8. Wizards
9. Heat
10. Nets
11. Hawks
12. Bulls
13. Cavs
14. Knicks
15. Magic

WEST
1. Warriors
2. Rockets
3. Nuggets
4. Jazz
5. Thunder
6. Lakers
7. Pelicans
8. Blazers
9. Spurs
10. Clippers
11. Grizzlies
12. Kings
13. Twolves
14. Mavs
15. Suns.

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27 Oct 2018 23:57:00
Magic beat celtics and barely lost to Sixers.

29 Oct 2018 13:30:19
The celtics beat the Sixers too. First game of the season.

30 Oct 2018 21:47:34
Magic lost by 1 to philly. I don't see them in last in confernce.

31 Oct 2018 15:28:03
I'd want to lose this season if I was a magic fan. Another lottery pick for a point guard would shore up some things in Orlando. Next season they would be knocking on a lot of teams doors for a playoff spot.

 


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