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20 Feb 2019 17:56:35
DETROIT/
Andre Drummond, 1st round pick 2020

NEW ORLEANS/
Jrue Holiday

20 Feb 2019 20:51:00
Pels giggle then hang up.

18 Feb 2019 08:54:43
Celtics-Pelicans

Celtics- Davis, Hill

Pelicans- Tatum, Horford, Smart, Yabusele, Grizzlies & Kings 1st round picks

18 Feb 2019 19:44:45
Pelicans counter with

Pelicans trade Davis, Hill and Moore

Boston trades Horford, Tatum, Williams, Ojeleye, Kings 1st, Memphis 1st, Boston 1st.

18 Feb 2019 21:08:25
I agree @Fredman.

16 Feb 2019 18:42:30
How the Clippers Get AD (Godfather Offer)

Flip Lou Williams to IND, CHA, or MIN for a future first

Flip Montrezl Harrell to MIN, SAC, DEN for a future first

Trade SGA/Robinson/Shamet/6 First Round Picks (Rights to their '19 First, '20 First from PHI, '21 First from MIA, '22 First from LAC, Future First from Lou Williams trade, Future First from Harrell trade) for AD

How does this compare with the NYK and BOS packages?

This gives the Pelicans the equivalent of 9 first round picks plus close to $20 million in immediate savings due to the difference in salaries.

If the Clippers can dump Gallinari's contract either with Lou Williams, through a possible Kawhi (S&T) with the Raptors or to another team, the Clippers try to pair AD with Kawhi and KD along with Zubac's small cap hold. They fill the rest of the roster with the room exception (point guard), second round picks and ring chasers.

16 Feb 2019 23:31:03
Its ambitious to say the least. I actually like this for Pels because it creates a Trust the Process But also it puts AD in LA but not with the Tamperers.

17 Feb 2019 01:59:52
Think you can only trade 4 first per trade.

17 Feb 2019 04:57:52
If Harrell gets a first in trade other GM should be fired.

17 Feb 2019 13:49:07
I think New Orleans is looking for 3 things to trade AD.

1. "Proven" young talent.
2. Draft picks
3. Salary cap relief (most likely salary dumping Hill's contract) .

The Clippers young talent is not proven and the Clips would lose their max salary slot in order to provide significant salary cap relief to New Orleans.

17 Feb 2019 16:01:21
Expiring S. Hill in a trade involving AD? Wouldn't that mean less return for the rebuilding pelicans? I don't think S. Hill $ will be required to make the salaries work unless Wall is the trade target.

17 Feb 2019 18:31:13
However, getting someone to take Hill's deal for free would open up $30 mil in cap space this off season to take on a bad deal for a pick. Unloading Hill speeds up the rebuild process.

18 Feb 2019 12:07:11
I like the offer. NO already has big men for the future in Randle and Okafor. Getting SGA and Shamet who had a great year would be big. Having set 4 positions for 7/ 8 years is great. It depends on the celtics if they offer Tatum, Brown, Smart and picks. That would be the only better offer. Picks of the Celtics aren't better than the picks of the Clippers.

18 Feb 2019 15:20:36
S. Hill for free? Is that a standing 8 count.

18 Feb 2019 19:13:10
How is Hill's deal in an AD trade going to be free for the Pels? I am not clear on what you are saying. Hill is expiring, and he can be traded to acquire a bad contract along with other players. Doesn't need to be included to drag an AD trade down. I think this is a standing 8 count for you fredman.

18 Feb 2019 21:10:50
The picks would have been useless if they hadnt canned Dell Demmps. He wouldve burned them up in bad trades.

16 Feb 2019 07:06:31
Pelicans and Lakers make a deal. Ball Ingram and wagner plus 3 first for second round pick on draft night. Long as the pelicans buyout davis right now. Lakers get davis for cheap and can build through free agency with the 50 mil plus in cap space plus kuz davis james and Hart. Most delusional post ever in my opinion.

16 Feb 2019 12:59:57
What are you talking about here?

Are you suggesting that the Pels buyout Davis now on a nudge, nudge, wink, wink agreement with the Lakers that they receive the players/ picks package at the draft for a second?

Do you think the league may have a little issue with this one? Allowing this to happen would literally be the end of the NBA.

I’ll give you credit for at least acknowledging that this is delusional, but you stopped short of the correct answers of illegal and sport ruining.

16 Feb 2019 15:13:31
The ramblings of a Laker fan who didn't get his way Feb 7th and won't come July

The Pelicans will not trade Davis to L. A. after the tampering. Ownership has stated that

Davis will be a Celtic or Knick.

16 Feb 2019 16:01:39
I'm agreeing with Charles the fix is in davis will be a laker.

Thanks triangle for the credit lol. this was just for fun.

17 Feb 2019 15:01:54
If the Lakers are habitual tamperers then why doesn't the NBA cancel all-star weekend? It's one big tampering festival it seems.

15 Feb 2019 03:50:47
Celtics-Pelicans

Celtics- Davis, Hill, Moore

Pelicans- Tatum, Horford, Smart, Ojeleye, Grizzlies pick, Clippers pick, 2 2nd rd picks

Horford only one year, he can be the leader. They get pieces to still compete while building for future

Pelicans

Smart-Payton-Jackson
Holiday-Clark-Williams
Tatum-Johnson-Miller
Randle-Ojeleye
Horford-Okafor-Diallo

Celtics sign Evans, Dedmon

resign Irving now and Rozier

Irving-Rozier
Brown-Evans-Moore
Hayward-Hill-Ojeleye
Davis-Theis-Yabusele
Dedmon-Baynes

14 Feb 2019 16:31:15
Pelicans Off-season

TRADES

NOP- Jayson Tatum, Marcus Smart, Jaylon Brown, Robert Williams, 19 1st (SAC), 19 1st (LAC), 19 1st (BOS)
BOS- Anthony Davis


NOP- Jonathon Issac, Markelle Fultz, Timofey Mosgov (waive), 2019 1st
ORL- Jrue Holiday


DRAFT

7 (ORL)- Bol Bol, C
8 (NOP)- Jontay Porter, PF
13 (LAC)- Nassir Little, SF
17 (SAC)- Tre Jones, PG
24 (BOS)- Deividas Sirvydis, SF (stash)



Starters
C- Jalil Okafor
PF- Julius Randle
SF- Jayson Tatum
SG- Jaylon Brown
PG- Marcus Smart

Bench
C- Bol Bol
PF- Robert Williams/Jontay Porter
SF- Jonathon Issac/Nassir Little
SG- E'Twan Moore
PG- Markelle Fultz/Tre Jones

14 Feb 2019 16:41:40
You must hate the pelicans or don't know about cba rules? Rhetorical.

14 Feb 2019 17:22:34
The Pelicans are not getting that much from the Celtics.

14 Feb 2019 18:15:18
Cant include brown sign trade with other players for the person disagreed with me.

14 Feb 2019 21:33:37
Whoever the one person who disagreed with Shizzee is, please un-check the disagree box. I'm not saying he is right but please do it any way LOL.

14 Feb 2019 22:18:20
Well Shizzee is wrong . Rozier is an rfa, Brown is wrong, as I told him before.

15 Feb 2019 00:58:08
Ummm. Jaylon Brown is not a RFA until the end of next season. So there is no S&T involved in this off season.

15 Feb 2019 10:08:33
Yeah Shizzee never let's facts stand in the way of a good story. Lol.

15 Feb 2019 20:17:22
If the clippers don't make the playoffs and land in the top 14 picks, the celtics don't get the pick. But from the clippers standpoint, i'm sure they would love nassir little.

14 Feb 2019 07:27:09
If Celtics are willing do Irving for Ntilikina and DSJ, they get good value in return and save 25 mil from resigning another max contract. They develop 2 PG behind Rozier. They can keep the remaining core with them. Remember Celtics are playing better without Irving.

That save ny 11 more mil to resign Jordan. NY pays 21 mil towards next yr vs 32mil on a max contract. Also saves NY 7 mil for loosing 2 players who won't ever be starters ahead of Irving.


Best trade for All parties

Pelicans get Ingram Thompson Henson
2019 and 2021 LA
2021 and 2023 DAL
2020 and 2022 NY
Lakers get Knight Moore Love Davis
Cavs get Knox Hart Trier
Knicks get Ball Dellavedova cavs 2019 1st

Cavs dump 73 mil in salary, avoid luxury taxes and get a 2 solid 20yr old future star at SG and SF.

Roster with 60 mil cap flexibilty
Sexton/Clarkson/Staukus
Hart/Trier/Nwaba
Knox/Osman/Adel
Nance/Chriss/Blossomgame
Cousins/E.Davis/Zizic

Pelicans 😍
Henson and Thompson can share the Davis responsibility for 1 yr as 2 others develop to replace Davis. Ingram 6 1st for Davis almost like Hershall Walker trade.

Ingram/Payton/Jackson
Holiday/Dort-39/Williams
S.Johnson/Miller/S.Hill
Randle/Henson/Hayes-9
Thompson/Okafor/Bol-13

Lakers keep Kuzma get 2 all stars and 2 shooters on perimeter around Lebron.

Knight/BHands-pickup
Moore/Stephenson/Vick-pickup
Lebron/Bullock/Norvall-pickup
Love/Kuzma/Wagner
Davis/McGee/Chandler

Trade Ball Dellavedova to magic for Augustin 10th 35th 43rd

Irving/Augustin/Allen
Barrett-3rd/Langford-10th/Dotson
Durant/Paschall-35/C.Johnson-51
Williamson-1st/Vonleh/Washington-43
Jordan/Robinson/Govan-pickup

14 Feb 2019 13:07:44
Lol. Ball and Dellavedova get the 10th pick in the draft. Yea, not happening.

Fultz got a FUTURE LATE 1st rounder. Ball is not going to get much more than that. Especially after the Fultz rrade.

14 Feb 2019 16:24:29
Horrible for NOLA Henson sucks and so does Thompson. The picks for LA would almost be very late firsts.

14 Feb 2019 16:50:13
Lakers 2019 lottery. 1 yr thompson Henson until bol and Jaxson take over. Fultz has not shown us anything that he belongs in nba, so arguement about comparison to ball is horrible. Ball and Fultz potential backcourt is interesting future. Name a better pg guard after 10 pick when Garland and Morant are already gone. Both of you loose on your arguement. 6 freakin 1st for any player including jordan is freakin awesome. dacman fredman 🤣.

14 Feb 2019 18:21:04
Much rather have Tatum Rozier and Brown with 3 picks.

14 Feb 2019 19:58:58
Cant include Brown in sign and trade when other people are involved unless the trade happen in January. Davis won't stay and listen to his father, omg dacman. Irving is not staying. Keep who wants to staying boston. Boston will still be good. Just never great. 🤣.

14 Feb 2019 21:00:55
This is Brown’s 3rd year in the league. He has a team option that will get picked up if it already hasn’t.

13 Feb 2019 23:38:44
Pelicans Celtics Trade:

Pelicans get: Tatum, Smart, Baynes, Clippers pick, Grizzlies pick, Celtics 2023 pick

Celtics get: Anthony Davis

This is the trade I feel is most likely, NOLA doesn't make them take Solomon Hill Contract. Also I think getting AD gets Kyrie to sign a one year max deal

14 Feb 2019 01:44:34
I think that is pretty close. Others on here may not think so. Lol
I think the Sacramento pick should be in the deal, replacing one of the other picks.

14 Feb 2019 07:31:41
Baynes would have to opt in, and he has a no trade clause this season not positive about his opt in deal next year. Joe B is right - those picks aren't good, a better 1 or 2 would need to be in the deal.

14 Feb 2019 13:16:26
Above average chance that none of these picks convey to NO (via Boston) in 2019. NO will want current picks.

14 Feb 2019 16:26:47
Baynes out Brown in.

13 Feb 2019 19:28:47
Knicks need to be creative to resign Jordan while adding 2 super max

Knox to Grizz for Reddish

Conley/Wright/Carter
Holiday/Myles/Palmer-54
Knox/Brooks/Chandler
Jackson/Anderson/Rabb
Valanciunas/Noah/Wiley-35

Knox and Jackson great forward combo eventually will play PF and center

DSJ to Heat for Langford

Dragic/DSJ/Roach-Pickup
Richardson/Waiters/Vick-pickup
Winslow/JonesJr/Robinson
Johnson/Olynyk/Maten
Whiteside/Bam/D.Hernandez-pickup

Garland might go sooner, heat need a PG, this is fair value.


Ntilikina Trier to Hawks for Paschall-35 Washington-43 M.Howard-46

Young/Ntilikina/Garland-12
Bazemore/Huerter/Trier
Prince/Hachimura-5/Bembry
Collins/Vonleh/Spellman
Cousins/Len/Plumlee

Hawks could win 40 games next yr with solid depth.

This clear 12 mil to resign DeAndre Jordan 2yr 28mil and Irving and Durant sign 2yr 70 mil (33mil-2019 & 37mil-2020 player opt) before signing rookies contracts

Irving/Howard/Allen
Reddish/Langford/Dort-51
Durant/Paschall/Dotson
Williamson/Washington/Lawson-pickup
Jordan/Robinson/Govan-pickup

Lotto Draft
Knicks-Williamson
Suns-Morant
Cavs-Barrett
Bulls-Fernando
Hawks-Hachimura
Grizz-Reddish
Wizards- Little Wall to Pacers for Holiday 23
Magic-Okpala
Pelicans-Alexander-Walker
Detriot-Johnson
Hawks-Garland
Celtics-Culver
Pelicans-Bassey

13 Feb 2019 20:34:02
Why would Memphis do that?

This is just so bad overall.

13 Feb 2019 23:38:00
That draft has so many players going too early.

14 Feb 2019 01:44:53
Carl,

Maybe Detriot or Pelicans Culver or Johnson instead of Reddish. Knicks need a 3D sg better than Dotson.

14 Feb 2019 01:57:24
So memphis drafts a younger better shooter and trades the wing they needed for years for Knox? Lol.

14 Feb 2019 06:31:01
Fernando, Okpala, Hachimura and Alexander Walker will not be top 10 picks.

14 Feb 2019 07:52:44
Knox is 19 going to be 20 next yr shelfish.

08 Feb 2019 17:16:52
I believe that if the Knicks get the 1st overall pick this summer they will pick Zion Williamson and build their team with young players.

But if they don't get it and wind up with a later selection, they will trade the pick for Anthony Davis and go after superstars.


Knicks - Pelicans

Knicks gets:
Davis

Pelicans gets:
Smith
Ntilikina
Knox
Robinson
Trier
2019 1st Knicks (#2-#5 overall)
2021 1st Mavs (Unprotected)
2023 1st Mavs (Top 10 protected)
2020 2nd Hornets
2021 2nd Hornets

08 Feb 2019 17:40:45
If the pick isn't #1, I don't think their trade package is enough for Davis. Maybe if it's #2, but not if it's all the way down at 5.

08 Feb 2019 18:36:17
I think that package will work with Barrett or Williamson for Davis. If Durant is the prize, davis should be target too regardless if williamson drafted. I don't think Durant comes without Davis. I believe that will cause Irving to sign too. They should sign Irving and Durant below the max (2 yr 1 yr guarenteed 30mil instead 35mil) this leave room for their buddy Jordan 3yr 45 mil. 6 vet minimum contracts. Trade future picks and 51 for Washington and Paschall

Irving/ Beverly/ I. Thomas
Lamb/ Stephenson/ Vick-pickup
Durant/ Beasley/ Paschall-33
Davis/ Melo/ Washington-43
Jordan/ O'Quinn/ Govan-pickup.

08 Feb 2019 23:25:34
I don’t see Durant or Irving taking the short term deals, especially discounted. Durant’s done it the last couple of years and is getting older, and Irving should want long term security with some of his injury history.

If the pick is #1, the package for AD probably does not need to include Trier or Robinson. I could see:

Knox
DSJ
2019 1st overall
2021 Knicks 1st
2021 Mavs 1st
2023 Mavs 1st

I don’t know if they would want Frank, they may prefer a couple of future 2nds instead.

Anything more than this, and I would just keep the package and take Zion #1. I know Boston feels like Tatum is the best player that anyone can offer, but I truly believe Zion will be a generational talent, and finding multi-positional two way wings is easier than finding what Zion offers.

09 Feb 2019 04:10:40
Zion frank and 3 picks for davis. Davis is expiring so not that valuable Like now. But to be on the verge of losing davis I'm taking zion who they will have for next 7 to 8 years. Prozingis could never recover and those picks will be great. No matter how bad I want Davis on Lakers zion for Davis would be no brainer for new Orleans.

07 Feb 2019 21:06:36
This Offseason

Clippers sign KD and Kawhi to max deals

Clippers trade Shai G-A, Jerome Robinson, Zubac, Harrell, Gallinari, and 3 1st round picks (2020 from sixers, 2021 clippers, 2021 heat unprotected pick)
Pelicans trade Davis, Solomon Hill, Frank Jackson

Clippers stretch provision Hill

Clippers resign Beverley and Garrett Temple

Beverly/ Ty Wallace/ Jackson
Temple/ Lou Will/ Shamet
Kawhi/ 2019 1st round pick
KD/ MLE free agent
Davis.

08 Feb 2019 00:43:55
Neither want to be in Lebrons shadow on the other LA team. Durant is coming to MSG.

08 Feb 2019 02:20:46
On draft day clippers can add a 2019 1st as long as they miss yhe plsyoffs.

08 Feb 2019 15:44:55
@shizzee if they add AD, they absolutely would be willing to join. Nobody cares about being in Lebron's shadow. KD has said that he feels he is better than lebron. The big names that have requested trades in the past year have all had the clippers on their wishlist. Guys will want to be there. I think KD will either choose NYK or LAC. Kawhi is a clipper 100%

@fredman exactly! they can essentially have the trade agreed upon and draft the player that NOLA would want. 4 picks, 2 lottery picks from last year, a 20ppg scorer, and one of the best bench big men in the NBA is arguably the best haul they could get.

08 Feb 2019 19:19:47
Black their no way pelicans take clippers package over la celtics nor knicks.

08 Feb 2019 21:49:55
@shizzee how so? the pelicans are really high on shai and wanted him in the draft. They would get 3 1st round picks and one being the unprotected heat pick which is very valuable and 2 lottery picks from last year? But you think that lonzo, kuzma, ingram, and 2 picks is more attractive? lonzo is not averaging double figures in any stat and shooting 41% from the free throw line. He is one of the most overrated players in the league because he's a laker. look at the lakers without lebron, if they do that trade, the pelicans would be doing the same. that's why they were bsing them.
The celtics really only have tatum and picks to offer. that is, if they do offer tatum.
who knows what the knicks would give up, but they don't have the draft picks to trade either.

09 Feb 2019 04:39:59
Agree, that Knicks offer is slightly better but it all comes down to how the Pelicans feel about the youth. Remember, there are quite a few NBA executives that belief Zion has a fair chance to be a bust because he is showing limited shooting, poor handles and below average passing. Their words not mine.

What Zion is good at is off the charts, but he has some glaring weaknesses as well. I think watching Fultz bust as a #1 pick has some GMs concerned about drafting players with significant weaknesses.

07 Feb 2019 05:45:26
*Pelicans get: Kent Bazemore, Furkan Korkmaz, Jonah Bolden, 2019 2nd (via CHI, from PHI)
PG Holiday/Frazier/Payton
SG Moore/Jackson/Clark
SF Bazemore/Korkmaz/Williams
PF Randle/Mirotic/Bolden
Ce Okafor/Diallo/Davis

*Sixers get: Markieff Morris, Darius Miller, Nik Stauskas
PG Simmons/McConnell/Smith
SG Redick/Miller/Stauskas
SF Butler/Scott/Richardson
PF Harris/Morris/Johnson
Ce Embiid/Marjanovic/Patton

*Hawks get: Solomon Hill, Markelle Fultz, 2019 2nd (From PHI)
PG Young/Lin/Dorsey
SG Huerter/Carter/Fultz
SF Prince/Bembry/Hamilton
PF Collins/Spellman/Hill
Ce Dedmon/Len/Plumlee

*Rockets get: Justin Anderson, 2020 2nd (via BRO, from PHI)
PG Paul/Rivers/Baldwin
SG Harden/Gordon/Green
SF Shumpert/Ennis/Anderson
PF Tucker/Clark/Hartenstein
Ce Faried/Nene/Capela

07 Feb 2019 06:06:06
Jay aren't you a sixers fan. Markieff is done for the yr.

07 Feb 2019 05:21:42
Hornets - Randle and Moore

Pelicans - Biyombo Monk 2019 1st and 2nd

Walker/Parker
Lamb/Moore
Batum/Bridges
Williams/MKG
Randle/Zeller

Holiday/Payton
Monk/Clark
Hill/Miller
Mirotic/Morris
Okafor/Diallo

06 Feb 2019 03:12:04
NOP receives Harris (exp), Gortat (exp), McLemore (exp), SGA, Robinson, 2 1st round picks LAC, 2nd round pick LAC

LAC receives Davis, Randolph, Hill

SAC receive Gallinari, 1st from LAC

Kings get shooter from wing

Pg Fox-Ferrell
Sg Hield-Bogdanovic
Sf Gallinari-Shumpert
Pf Bjelica-Bagley-Giles
Ce WCS-Skal-Koufos

Pelicans rebuild

LAC form big 3 by signing Leonard & Kemba next season if they can

Pg Walker-Beverley
Sg Bradley-Williams
Sf Leonard-Thornwell
Pf Davis-Scott
Ce Harrell-Marjanovic

06 Feb 2019 04:26:15
Gallinari can not play the SF position in Kins uptempo offense. Too slow and a defense liability.

06 Feb 2019 06:19:20
Bjelica is doing just fine in this high pace offense. Gallinari would be fine.

06 Feb 2019 14:01:46
As a PF, yes. But the Kings have a ton of PFs, but not at SF/ Wing. Pratically the same thing with Barnes. Kings don't need a combo forward, they need a true SF.

06 Feb 2019 17:00:31
In what world is Gallinari not a true SF.

05 Feb 2019 23:26:41
4-TEAM MEGA TRADE
(I know it seems fantastic but want to hear your opinion)


Lakers get A.Davis, B.Beal, E.Payton, J.Green, D.Melton, C.Diallo and K.Williams
Pelicans get B.Ingram, K.Kuzma, T.J.Warren, I.Zubac, T.Ariza, R.Rondo, LAL's 2023 1st round pick, LAL's 2020 2nd round pick and LAL's 2021 2nd round pick
Wizards get J.Jackson, K.C.Pope, M.Wagner, W.Johnson, S.Hill, LAL's 2019 1st round pick, LAL's 2021 1st round pick and LAL's $3.75M cash
Suns get L.Ball, L.Stephenson, M.Beasley and S.Decker


Lakers:
- sign C.Anthony
* Lakers acquire the stars needed next to James. They could've just traded for Davis, instead of involving Beal to the package, but it'd lower their chance of getting 3rd star in 2019 free agency (check out salary cap'19 and probable team salary otherwise). The trade costs much for LAL but the clock is ticking down for LeBron.

Payton - Melton - Bonga
Beal - Hart - Williams
James - Green - Mykhailiuk
Davis - Anthony
McGee - Chandler - Diallo


Pelicans:
- trade N.Mirotic and F.Frazier to Jazz for T.Sefalosha, E.Udoh, R.Neto and UTA's 2019 1st round pick
* Pelicans get exciting young prospects (Ingram, Kuzma, Zubac), possible 6th-man on a reasonable deal (Warren), two veterans on expiring contracts, salary relief (bye-bye Hill) and multiple draft picks. Considering Davis' other preferred destinations (NYK, LAC, Bucks), this package is the best package they can get for AD.

Holiday - Rondo - Neto
Ingram - Moore - Clark
Ariza - Warren - Sefalosha
Kuzma - Randle - Miller
Zubac - Okafor - Udoh


Wizards:
* Wall and Howard are out for at least for a month now, so it seems that Wizards won't make it to the playoffs. This deal allows them to snatch two promosing youngsters on rookie contracts, avoid paying luxury tax (the team salary goes down ~$7M), get two 1st round picks and cash (for swallowing Hill's contract).

Satoransky - Randle - (Wall)
Pope - Brown - Jenkins
Jackson - Johnson - Hill
Porter - Morris - Wagner
Bryant - Mahinmi - (Howard)


Suns:
* Even though Warren is pretty solid and Jackson has an upside, Suns desperately need a point guard. They already have good young forwards with better ceiling (Oubre and Bridges), and pairing Booker with a star-potential guard like Ball should be their priority. Ball-Booker would be good combo, and Suns will be super exciting if they land Zion Williamson in the draft too.

Ball - Okobo - Ewans
Booker - Crawford - Daniels
Oubre - Stephenson - Decker
Bridges - Anderson - Beasley
Ayton - Bender - Holmes


Thoughts?

06 Feb 2019 06:13:42
it's to big of a trade that will never happen but dosnt sound bad.

05 Feb 2019 19:53:37
Lakers - Davis and Clark
Pelicans - Rondo Ingram Kuzma Hart Zubac Bonga, 3 1st and 1 2nd

Ball
KCP
James
Davis
Mcgee

Rondo
Holiday/Hart
Ingram
Kuzma
Zubac

05 Feb 2019 20:47:47
Lakers just announced that there is no deal and no more negotiations. Pels wanted too much.

05 Feb 2019 22:01:18
Super- when? I heard they wanted a counter from pels.

05 Feb 2019 22:19:16
No, the Pelicans want Jason Tatum. They will get Tatum from the Celtics.

05 Feb 2019 22:22:14
Which is an obvious negotiation tactic supercollider.

05 Feb 2019 23:40:47
Wasn’t it a pretty 1 sided conversation in the first place and supposedly, if the Pelicans want to make a counter, the Lakers are willing to talk. I don’t think the Pelicans really planon taking any offer before the Celtics get in on it, unless a team is willing to do something ridiculous.

05 Feb 2019 23:49:41
Lakers would be stupid to give up that much for Davis. yes davis is a very good players. but Lakers can find the right guys to play around LBJ. they need role players that are. better then Ball Rando Beasley.

trade for another star scoring PG and keep kuzma and hart.

Lakers trade Lillard

blazers get Ball, Ingram and first around picks and salary match.

Lakers then have One of the best PG Lillard and get rid of the Ball family.

06 Feb 2019 00:40:15
They are waiting for a counter offer from the Pelicans. There's no word that they threw in the towel.

06 Feb 2019 01:55:11
That's just posturing LAL are still in best position for a trade Pelicans are showing why they will never win a championship with current front office and ownership. if they keep playing Seattle will swoop them up lol.

06 Feb 2019 03:17:25
That doesn't get them Lillard.

06 Feb 2019 03:21:48
Ball Ingram pope plus other prospects other then kuz and hart and 3 first and 2 second for lillard. With lillard zubac hart kuzma and james. Plus have cap in off season to add third star just take a little less in fist year.

05 Feb 2019 16:01:14
Pelicans get Shai Gilgeous Alexander, Jerome Robinson, Danillo Gallinari, Derrick Favors, 2022 1st from Clippers, 2019 1st from Jazz

Jazz get Tobias Harris and Niko Mirotic

Clippers get Anthony Davis and Sefolosha

Pelicans get virtually 4 starters. 2 for the future, 2 future 1sts, a big man on an expiring deal, and Gallinari for this year and next year who can average 20ppg.

Jazz get 2 bigs that can spread the floor and help make their playoff push.

Clippers get AD and an expiring in sefolosha. It helps them attract free agents and clear cap space.

05 Feb 2019 17:56:59
If the Laker deals being floated are real, this isn’t getting it done.

05 Feb 2019 18:37:58
So Favors, Sefolosha and a 1st rounder gets Utah Tobias Harris and Mirotic?

Clippers and Pelicans would do better leaving Utah out of it.

05 Feb 2019 19:05:26
@rkenne_16 the pelicans are only asking for 4 1st rounders because they don't want to deal with the lakers and the only way they will is if they fleece them for everything. But even then, how appealing is it to do the lakers deal? lonzo doesn't want to be there, ingram, and kuzma, it would just make the pelicans the same team the lakers were the past couple of years.

@fredman the jazz are very interested in Tobias, it would help facilitate another 1st going to the pelicans, the pelicans would get favors as an expiring deal and hold favors bird rights if they want to keep him. The other option is to take Mirotic out and replace him with Solomon hill and i think all 3 teams still do that deal.

05 Feb 2019 20:46:17
Nobody wants to be in Lebron's shadow. Davis would not resign.

05 Feb 2019 09:22:36
Utah Jazz
Favors
Mitchell
Exum
Sefolosha
1st

N.O. Pelicans
Davis
S.Hill

05 Feb 2019 09:32:29
Why would Utah do this?

No way Davis would resign with them.

05 Feb 2019 09:13:02
Kings Bucks Pelicans

Kings trade: W.Cauley-Stein I.Shumpert Z.Randolf S.Labissiere 1st round pick

Receive: K.Middleton T.Snell T.Maker

Bucks trade: K.Middleton T.Snell T.Maker G.Hill(Will have to be trade alone to make this trade work, also works with Bledsoe) 2 1st round picks

Receive: A.Davis S.Hill I.Shumpert S.Labissiere

Pelicans trade: A.Davis S.Hill

Receive: W.Cauley-Stein Z.Randolf G.Hill 3 1st round picks

Kings
Fox Ferrel Mason
Heild Bogdanovic Mclemore/Snell
Middleton Jackson/Snell
Bjelica Giles/Maker
Bagley Koufos/Maker

Bucks
Bledsoe Brogdon Duval
Shumpert DiVincenzo Connaughton
Antetokounmpo Hill
Davis Ilyasova Labissiere
Lopez Smith Wilson

Kings get their future SF
Bucks pair Davis Antetokounmpo and shed Snell contract.

Pelicans get 3 first, get out of S.Hill contract and cap space.

05 Feb 2019 13:06:37
I was there until you said kings give up a 1st rounder for someone on an expiring contract.

05 Feb 2019 15:13:28
I believe the Bucks would decline!

05 Feb 2019 19:37:48
Torque, the Bucks turn down adding a 2nd young generational talent that says he’d resign to keep two late 1sts, 1 good starter on an expiring and the trash at the end of their bench?

05 Feb 2019 21:38:44
Hello rkenne! Hope you have been well. Now, Milwaukee just doesn't have enough to offer the Pels for Davis! Middleton, and Who? It would take at least 4,5,6 1st rd picks according to NOP. Plus, Middleton, Bledsoe, Brogdan, and Lopez will need to redo their contracts by next year. Who do you start with to keep? Latest word out of Milwaukee is their looking to move Maker, Snell, and possibly Bledsoe? They need more wing help. I would think Maker to the suns for Oubre would do it?

Thoughts?

05 Feb 2019 05:50:39
Lakers get Davis and Ross

Magic get Ball

Kings get Hill and Lakers 2019 1st

NO gets KCP, Kuzma, Ingram, Koufus, Hart, Wagner/ Zubac, OKC 2020 1st (from Orl) and Lakers 2021 1st, Minnesota 2019 2nd (from Sac), 2020 Lakers 2nd

Just an addition to the much discussed Lakers-Pelicans deal whereby Ball gets moved to Orlando and Hill is salary dumped on the Kings.

 
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