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19 May 2017 18:59:49
Boston - New Orleans Trade

Boston TRADES:

Isaiah Thomas or the rights to Fultz
Avery Bradley
Ante Zizic
Amir Johnson (for salary)
2018 1st Round pick

Boston RECEIVES:

Anthony Davis

PG - Markelle Fultz or Isaiah depending on item #1 above
SG - Marcus Smart
SF - Jae Crowder
PF - Al Horford
C - Anthony Davis

19 May 2017 20:17:58
Johnson is a FA, would have to be Zeller. Which 18 pick? They'd want Crowder instead of Bradley and also Brown. And even then I don't think that's enough.

19 May 2017 20:51:28
Anthony Davis is a great talent and it would probably take that type of offer for Pelicans to consider moving him but I don't like it for the Celtics. Celtics do need a big man but I don't think they need one the caliber of Davis and would be better suited getting someone slightly worse or someone that made less money so they can maintain strength in the rest of their roster.

I'm not sure how keen Pelicans would be to move Davis before they fully give Cousins and Davis a chance to succeed. That duo could potentially break the league as there isn't any team that would matchup well against them. However, it will be tough to build around the two salary wise, that is if they are able to extend Cousins next offseason. If next season doesn't go well they could always lose Cousins to FA. Making a trade like this probably wouldn't embolden Cousins to stay through a rebuild so one could realistically view this trade as them giving up both Cousins and Davis in which case it definitely isn't worth it.

19 May 2017 22:30:45
Cousins and Davis will be NBA best duo next. Cousins reunited with Thomas, things did not work out to well the 1st time.

add Asik and Zller.

10 May 2017 14:13:42
Mil - Fournier, Henzonja, and 2018 1st (top 10 protected)

Orl - Parker, Telly, and Vaughn

- Mil adds shooters for Giannis

- Orl takes a shot on Parker and will most likely keep their 2018 pick

Mil drafts - Lydon
Orl drafts - Monk

Brogdon - Delly
Fournier - Snell
Middleton - Henzonja
Giannis - Lydon
Henson - Maker

Payton - Augustine
Monk - Ross
Parker - FA
Gordon - Telly
Vucevic - Biyombo

10 May 2017 15:47:05
I don't understand why Magic take this risk especially when they could get likely just get Tatum at #4 who has a similar style game to Parker. I don't see a team giving up anything significant for Parker at this point.

06 May 2017 22:59:10
Lakers get Pondexter and Ajinca

Pelicans get Nick Young

Young would be a perfect fit on the pels

08 May 2017 16:16:33
No, He would not be.

05 May 2017 01:22:31
Pelicans get J Butler

Bulls get Holiday (s&t), Moore and Frazier

05 May 2017 04:35:22
Not enough for Butler and for the price they would have to pay Butler is not a great fit. They need wing players who can give their big men some space.

05 May 2017 15:21:33
Chicago is going to be looking for draft picks or very young talent if they're moving on from Butler.

01 May 2017 21:10:22
Pelicans CP3 S&T

Clippers top 5 Valanciunas noah Holiday S&T future picks from pelicans

Knicks Griffin sign and trade

Raptors Jordan

Clippers rebuild.. knicks keep melo trade top 5 Noah for Griffin clippers will take Noah contract to get top 5...pelicans get cp3 to go win now mode...raptors get a defensive center to pair with ibaka

01 May 2017 23:10:49
Knicks can sign Griffin out right so they have no reason to give up their pick (the way lottery works Knicks can only get top 3 or 7th/ later pick and only 18.3% chance they get a top 3 pick) .

Pelicans would be wise to go after CP3 as he would be a major upgrade over Holiday and would in theory be deadly when paired with Davis and Cousins. Pelicans would need to do a sign and trade in order to afford Paul. Not certain how willing Paul would be to return to Nola since although Cousins and Davis are better it seems eerily similar to the Clippers where most of cap would be devoted to 3 star players with little depth or assets to acquire depth around them.

Not certain why Clippers would do a straight swap of Jordan for Valanciunas, I understand he is younger but Clippers should be able to get more than that either from Raptors or elsewhere.

02 May 2017 15:27:27
Why would the Knicks bring in Griffin of all people when their best two players play at his position? If they're trying to create a complete team of 4's this makes some sense, but that's the only way. If they're looking for a Clipper, Paul and Redick would both be better choices. or Jordan if they wanted it to be a trade. Sure Melo CAN play the three, and Porzingis CAN play Center, but that doesn't mean they should. Right now both are stretch 4's where Porzingis also brings rebounding and defense. They should be, and I think they are, looking to move Melo to improve any of the other positions. ideally a Center. Then you draft a point guard or shooting guard (Smith, Fox, Monk) and sign the other (Paul/ Holiday, Redick/ Korver) . That doesn't give you a championship, but it's going to give you a competitive squad with young pieces to build around.

02 May 2017 23:52:53
I think a return to where it all started for CP3 could actually extend his game, having AD and DC as teammates. Factor in Pels Owner Tom Benson is up in age and just had a nasty fight w children over his assets both in teams and properties. I could EASILY see him exceed the cap to become only Owner to have a Lombardi and NBA Championship ( to my knowledge anyway) That all being said i don't see it happening. Pels might be better to try and sign Teague at PG or Reddick at SG and roll w Holiday.

26 Apr 2017 11:33:34
NOP-ORL

NOP get Payton

Orl get a 1st rounder either 2018(top 10 protected), 2019(top 5 protected) or 2020 unprotected.

Pelicans let holiday walk get a hometown kid who can get the ball to their stars and will be cheaper giving them more money to keep their stars and add some shooters at sg and sf to help space the floor in the off season. They protect their picks incase Cousins walks.

Magic have Fox in most mocks so that makes Payton expendable so grabbing a future pick would help them continue to build as they only have their own 1st rounders and are lacking a star so grabbing picks and young players should be a priority until they find an identity to start moving forward.

26 Apr 2017 13:59:39
I'm not sure I would take Fox if I'm the Magic. Tatum is the obvious choice if he isn't taken at 4, but I think I'd go somewhere other than Fox if he is. He seems like he has all the good, and most of the same bad as Payton.

26 Apr 2017 16:23:00
Peyton isn't good enough to justify letting Holiday walk. They could just use the pick to get rid of Hill and/ or Asik's contracts to open up space.

21 Apr 2017 06:21:33
Lakers get their top three pick and draft lonzo ball 28th pick get sent to pacers along with future pick T Mozgov and D Russell for Paul George
Then lakers, pelicans and wolves trade
Lakers get D Cousins
Wolves get L Deng and 2 future 2nd rd picks
Pelicans get R Rubio and N Young
Lakers lineup
Pg: L Ball / J Clarkson/ Nawaba
Sg: B Ingram/ C Brewer
Sf: P George / L Nance jr
Pf: J. Randle/ T Robinson
C: D. Cousins/ I Zubac.

21 Apr 2017 09:03:48
2 2nd rounders and one of the worst contracts for Rubio is laughable, actually this whole trade is.

21 Apr 2017 10:48:56
We want Ball and Ingram if we trade PG13
Bird would rather trade him to Boston for a second round pick :-) then accepting this offer.

21 Apr 2017 14:51:18
A Lakers fan dreaming.

21 Apr 2017 14:55:30
Rubio and Swaggy for Cousins? Man this trade is beyond pathetic.

21 Apr 2017 17:36:46
Lakers could potentially get both George and Cousins especially since both will be FA in 2018. However, to do so they need to somehow move Clarkson, Deng and Mozgov's contract while simultaneously taking back basically zero salary. I guess they could use Randle as part of a sign and trade since they have his Bird Rights that summer. Best move would probably be to trade for one of them then sign the other outright in FA.

The proposed trades above however are laughable. You could combine the two offers for Cousins and George and I don't think either gets you just one of them. If they are serious about getting either of them 2 out of this years pick, Ingram and Russell would likely have to go (they could likely dump Deng or Mozgovs contracts in the move too) .

21 Apr 2017 17:45:52
for the record. he also said he gets Cousins, for deng and a coupel future seconds. AWESOME.

22 Apr 2017 15:04:32
Well sure. Why don't we just "throw in" Anthony Davis and Karl Anthony Towns while we are at it SMH.

23 Apr 2017 06:33:33
Yes i am dreaming but both want to play here and the trade makes all teams better you guys have to much hate pelicans need scorers and the wolves need better D all wins to me but please leave more hate.

24 Apr 2017 18:28:50
Ya cause taking away the second leading scorer on the Pelicans for a passing point guard and a 32 year old streaky shooter is good for them!

25 Apr 2017 14:51:09
Lakeshow just because someone may or may not want to play in a location does not mean a team takes a remarkably stupid offer from that team. I know its hard for you to accept that the Lakers are not a premier destination anymore but bad trade ideas won't help that either.

01 Apr 2017 05:34:45
Pelicans off season

Sign Rondo 2y 30m team option

Sign jj Riddick

Sign SF that can shoot

01 Apr 2017 06:07:00
NO probably won't have that much money. And I doubt anyone gives Rondo $15mm per.

01 Apr 2017 12:57:59
Pels have $89M on the books for next year, leaving them with about $15M to spend all together, so Reddick by himself might be out of the question, much less him, Rondo and a SF who can shoot.

Pels will most likely keep Holiday and then bargain bin shop for shooters.

01 Apr 2017 22:38:37
they should just sign Young.

01 Apr 2017 22:40:25
At this point in his career I wouldn't rely on Rondo to start at pg and would never think about giving him that money (no way he gets a raise from his contract last summer) . The most logical option for the Pelicans would be to resign Holiday but use his Bird rights to do so after they sign other FA (so they can use their cap space and exceptions first to add much needed additional talent) . They shouldn't be afraid of exceeding the luxury tax (if they are then dealing for Cousins was a huge mistake) . Reddick would be a good fit but not certain if he'd be interested especially since Pelicans can't afford to overpay him to come.

06 Apr 2017 22:42:58
Mr Benson I believe, has the chance to become only Owner to have an NFL and an NBA Championship. He is also in his late 80s and healthwise not in the best way. I could see them exceeding the luxury tax easily. But no way you pay Rondo anywhere near that kind of money when you re-sign Holiday and have Bird Rights. The missing piece would ideally be a SG/ SF combo.

10 Mar 2017 19:18:53
Could the Celtics trade their pick from Brooklyn to the Kings for their own pick and the pelicans pick? 6 & 7ish

If so should they?

Kings draft Fultz

Celtics draft Isaac and Markannan

Thomas - Rozier
Bradley - Smart
Crowder - Brown
Isaac - Markannan
Horford - Zeller

10 Mar 2017 20:35:23
Celtics really want Horford at the PF where he would be more effective.
C's should trade that pick on draft night for a true big man, I really think Boogie will be moved so he might be a target if he is available or Drummond as another choice that would be cheaper and not in Tech problems like Cousins.
Then trade IT to the Hornets for Walker.

10 Mar 2017 21:42:11
Billj. not much has been made about a possible Thomas trade, but something has to happen if Boston takes Fultz or Ball.

Thomas
Fultz / Ball
Bradley
Smart
Rozier

Celts can't take a PG and then let him rot on the bench.

10 Mar 2017 23:39:47
I agree 100%, If IT gets traded it will be in the summer.

But let me ask you Supercollider, If they have to pick, who do they pick, Fultz or Ball?

Smart is a stretch player which makes him a valuable asset.

Not sure if you heard this yet but G Yabusele is going to sign with Maine Red Claws and then probably to the C's in a couple of weeks if Visa goes smoothly. He averaged 20.9 pts, 9.4 rebounds, 1.4 steals, and 1.1 blocks. It will prolong his rookie contract deal till next season. This may be their Big of the future or now could be a trade candidate. Source is out of sbnation as of this afternoon. Interesting twist to this saga.

11 Mar 2017 09:38:18
I would draft Fullz and keep IT
The Celtics can do a rebuilt and play for Eastern finals.

11 Mar 2017 10:06:54
I would draft Fultz and draft IT to SAC for WCS an the Pelicans pick.

12 Mar 2017 11:44:55
There are so many assets / moving parts to the Celtics situation that it is next to impossible to predict what they will do. Here is what I would do (which is not necessarily what I think they WILL do), assuming they get the No. 1 pick:

1. Fultz (too many red flags with Ball's father)
2. Move Thomas for a quality big (maybe Whiteside or Vucevic) . There would have to be others involved.
3. See about Hayward.
4. You're stuck with Horford, but I would clean out the rest of the front line -- Olynyk, Zeller, Jerebko, Mickey, Johnson. All of them.
5. If you get Hayward, move Crowder for a rotation big.

For next season you could have

Fultz / Bradley / Hayward / Horford / Whiteside

Smart, Zizic, maybe Yanusele, Rozier off the bench.

13 Mar 2017 00:58:43
Billj what is your obsession with Kemba Walker? IT is better than Kemba.

13 Mar 2017 17:50:25
No obsession, just don't think Boston is going to pay IT the money he wants. And Walker would be a good pick up while the C's figure out what life needs to be like without their top scorer. They need a wing man and a big man

Now obsessions? I'm not the one calling myself tombrady. lol.

Supercollider. I would like to see them retain Jerebko, he plays hard, but he'll be on the wrong side of 30.

01 Apr 2017 09:51:32
Billj why would hornets trade kemba there star for IT? And vice versa.. IT is a lot better but he would be a free agent makes no sense

01 Apr 2017 09:53:48
Damn billj another one like why would Boston trade away their first big agent they just signed to the damn pistons? They would never get another big free agent again damn lol can some people use common sense on here at least some realistic stuff .. and drummon is greater than an aging horford

04 Mar 2017 19:56:37
Celtics get Anthony Davis

Pelicans get Isaiah Thomas, Avery Bradley, Jaylen Brown, and 2018 Nets 1st


Boston drafts Markell Fultz

Signs Gordon Hayward


Pf. A. Davis/ K. Olynick
Sf. J. Crowder/ J. Young
C. A. Horford/ T. Zeller
Sg. G. Hayward/ M. Smart
Pg. M. Fultz/ T. Rozier

04 Mar 2017 20:54:51
I highly doubt the Pelicans say yes.

05 Mar 2017 01:27:56
Pelicans definitely aren't going to trade Davis anytime soon now they got a partner in crime with Cousins and should be able to attract some decent talent this offseason. Even if they were to trade him this return isn't great at all. Two expiring contracts and the 2017 Nets pick isn't even involved.

05 Mar 2017 13:10:20
Lots to not like about this deal from Boston's POV.
Plus, Bradley and Thomas are both signed for next year and the Celtics still have only a 1-in-4 chance of getting Fultz. Boston could wind up 3 or 4, and not able to get either Fultz or Ball.

05 Mar 2017 15:04:29
Lots to not like from Boston's POV? You get one of the top 2-3 forwards in the L for expiring deals and get to keep this year's Nets pick. Come on man.

05 Mar 2017 15:28:59
Why would you waste space making a Davis trade and not including the #1 pick. No where close to value. Even with that pick.

05 Mar 2017 22:16:19
I hate Celtics fans

06 Mar 2017 14:51:16
I really get sick of Boston fans proposing Anthony Davis trades.

07 Mar 2017 18:02:27
I'm a C's fan and i know AD isn't coming to Boston anytime soon.

02 Mar 2017 13:34:30
Jimmer Fredette wants to redeem his career.. I think pelicans would be perfect fit for him.. double team on Davis and Cousins will give him an open shot..

02 Mar 2017 14:41:36
He should try out for the Mets with Tebow

02 Mar 2017 14:51:57
We already had Jimmer once, and once is enough.

04 Mar 2017 03:27:35
Dacman813 - There is no such thing as too much Jimmer.

02 Mar 2017 01:00:11
Pelicans offseason

Stretch/ Waive Asik which clears about 4 mil
In cap space

Trade

Pels - DJ Augustine

Magic - Solomon Hill

Send Hill to his former coach while gaining a vet back up PG and clearing 3-4 mil more off the cap

Sign JJ Reddick 3 yr 30 mil
Sign Kyle Kover 3 yr 26 mil
Sign Thabo Sefolosha 2 yr 14 mil

With having Bird Rights with Jrue Holiday they can resign him and go over the cap

Fill out roster with min deals

Lineup

PG - Holiday - Augustine - Frazier
SG - Reddick - Moore
SF - Sefolosha - Korver
PF - Davis - Diello
C - Cousins - Aijanca

They need to surround the bigs with shooters.

02 Mar 2017 02:37:16
Reddick will get more than that.

26 Feb 2017 19:00:05
Pelicans offseason

Trade #1

Pelicans - Alec Burks

Jazz - Alexei Ajainca, 2 future 2nd round picks

Trade #2

Pelicans - Brandon Knight, TJ Warren

Suns - Solomon Hill, Quincy Pondexter (Waive) 2018 protected pick

Resign holiday, Monteunas, Cunningham, Casspi

Lineup

PG - Holiday - Knight
SG - Burks - Moore
SF - Warren - Casspi
PF - Davis - Cunningham
C - Cousins - Monteunas.

26 Feb 2017 21:08:04
You're crazy. Knight as a backup would be 13.6 mill cap hit. Meaning in two years Davis cousins holiday and knights would be at like 100 mil. So you need 2 starters and 6 bench players for 10-20 million. Destined for failure.

26 Feb 2017 22:02:56
No need for Knight, Frazier can be backup. I also don't think Jazz or Suns do those trades.

27 Feb 2017 01:31:49
Somebody tell burger cap is at 102mil it's OK to spend.

27 Feb 2017 07:45:21
Suns dnt do that trade!

27 Feb 2017 18:17:07
Someone tell shizzee to learn math.

In 2 years, Davis cap is 25.4 million
In 2 years, Cousins cap is what, 28mill?
Knight is 14.6 mill
Holiday is probably around 15 mill.
In 2 years, Hill's cap is 12.2 mill
Asik is 11.2 mill
Moore is 8.8 mill
Ajinca is 5.6 mill

Them 8 have you at over 120 million. You need 4 more players, at minimum contracts. Leaving you. a shallow and awful team.

Learn math shizze.

23 Feb 2017 15:15:55
Orlando-Phoenix

Orlando gets Brandon Knight

Phoenix gets Nikola Vucevic and 2017 ORL 2nd.

23 Feb 2017 16:05:02
knight is at a low and Vucevic is pretty much the same no way you give more for him.

23 Feb 2017 04:32:02
Pelicans get Caldwell-Pope

Pistons get Terrance Jones and future first round draft pick

23 Feb 2017 05:12:14
That's horrible for Detroit.

23 Feb 2017 02:42:53
Indiana-Pelicans-Nuggets

Indiana acquire K.Faried & 2nd round pick Pelicans

Pelicans acquire M.Ellis

Nuggets acquire A.Ajinca , E.Moore & 1st round pick Pacers

23 Feb 2017 00:06:00
heat : frazier, jones, pondexter(waive)
pelicans : ellington, mcroberts

22 Feb 2017 23:20:31
pelicans : chandler, barton
nuggets : asik, jones, pondexter(waive),2017 pick
nola then sign chalmers & goodwin

22 Feb 2017 14:28:02
Cavs get: Terrence Jones

Pelicans get: Jordan McRae, Kay Felder


Cavs get another fron court option that can (maybe) match up with Draymond while creating a roster spot for Chalmers/Sanders etc.

Pelicans get a desperately needed SG and a cheap/upside 3rd string PG

22 Feb 2017 16:10:32
Pelicans/ Bucks

Bucks get Terrance Jones

Pelicans get SG Vaughn, and PG Terry

Bucks get the replacement for Parker

Pelicans get a SG, and a 3rd string PG.

23 Feb 2017 00:13:12
sas-nop

sas-t jones
nop- anderson

sas get athletic pf/ c that spurs need most specialy gasol got injured.

nop get a young talented point forward that can replace evans position.

22 Feb 2017 03:37:48
Nuggets-Clippers

Nuggets get Blake Griffin, Jamal Crawford, Wesley Johnson
-Counter deal to the Pelicans. Why would Griffin not want to re-sign with this team for the next few years. They're already in 8th in the west and they're young and only going to get better.
•Lineup:
Pg Nelson-Mudiay-Murray
Sg Harris-Crawford
Sf Gallinari-Johnson-Miller
Pf Griffin-Faried-Hernangomez
C Jokic-Plumlee-O'Bryant

Clippers get Wilson Chandler, Darrell Arthur, Will Barton, Malik Beasley, and Nuggets 2017 1st (top 10 protected)
-Griffin could likely leave in free agency. And if he stays, this team would be paying major luxury tax. So LAC trades him to make the team all around better with a better bench and upgrade at SF.
•Lineup:
Pg Paul-Rivers-Felton
Sg Redick-Barton-Beasley
Sf Chandler-Mbah a Moute-Pierce
Pf Arthur-Bass-Johnson
C Jordan-Speights-Stone.

22 Feb 2017 05:22:27
Griffin wouldn't want to resign with Nuggets cause he is already on a better team and in a better city that enables him to live a more celebrity lifestyle and better market himself and make more money through advertisements and such.

Not a fan of the return for the Clippers especially since it could lead to Paul leaving in FA.

Nuggets would be wise to consolidate their assets for a higher caliber player but until their team is more established I think they'll have trouble keeping a star who isn't signed long term (stars that are signed long term aren't typically available in trades) .

 
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