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22 Nov 2017 23:58:55
Philly- Phoenix

Phoenix: Okafor+ Bayless+ 2rnd pick
Philly: Monroe

Philly's off season
Sign LBJ to a 60M 2y contract
Sign CP3 to a 30M 2y contract
Sign and trade:
OKC: Covington+ 1rnd pick
Philly : P George

C: Embiid/ Holmes
PF: Simmons/ Saric
SF: LBJ/Kormaz
SG: P George/Fultz
PG: CP3/ Fultz

23 Nov 2017 03:50:22
i like it. i'd only go for cp based on how he plays with harden this year, i'm not trying to limit what ben simmons can do.

22 Nov 2017 18:35:07
OKC gets Jahlil Okafor

Det gets Kyle Singler, two 2nd's (Philly)

Philly gets Stanley Johnson

22 Nov 2017 20:20:58
I think Detroit is going to hold onto Johnson for the year to see if he continues his improvement, and then make a decision in the offseason.

22 Nov 2017 20:23:37
Mil. gets Okafor,

Philly gets Vaughn and Milws. 2nd rd. pick.

19 Nov 2017 15:49:26

Bucks get J. Okafor, W. Chandler

Cavs get K. Faried, J. Bayless

Nuggets get M. Teletovic, I. Shumpert

76ers get J. Henson, C. Frye

Also nuggets and 76ers get picks

19 Nov 2017 16:24:40
I hate it for the Nuggets even with a future first. They give up probably the 2 most valuable pieces in the trade and Chandler is the best player in the trade by a lot.

19 Nov 2017 16:39:12
Sounds fair. The Bucks can use a Center, and a backup SF. Okafor and Chandler could fill those slots, even if they send a 2nd rd pick. Or, Milwaukee can also cut The two Cheerleaders "Terry, (40 yrs. old) and Vaughn" (Who can't fall off a horse and hit the ground, Or hit the broadside of a barn with a Basketball, even if he was standing inside of it) And sign Mindaugas Kuzminskas who was recently cut by the NY Knicks. 6'9" SF who can shoot and rebound.

18 Nov 2017 01:43:43
Trade 1: Phoe-Clippers-Port-Wolves

Phoe: B Griffin+ McCollum+ L williams

Port: J Butler+ 2rnd pick OKC(from Phoenix)

Wolves: Monroe+ J Jackon

Clippers: B Knight+Dudley+Bender+1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick suns+ 1rnd pick Bucks

Trade 2

LA: D Jordan+ 2rnd pick clippers
Clippers: Ingram+ clarckson+ Deng

Phoenix receive two all star calliber players and a great sixth man. McCollum and Griffin would be a great duo. Griffin could be the main ball handler and McCollum can be a great scorer. Griffin- McCollum-Bookers would be a big three. And they still have some assets to trade for a good center (Chriss+ 2021 Miami pick)

Portland receives a player that would be a better fit than McCollum.

The Wolves get an extra young player with potential and they can stay under the cap.

LA get capspace and they have a backup plan with signing Jordan if they fail to land other big free agents. They lose Ingram, but Kuzma is a good replacement and they trade Deng without losing draft picks

The Clippers can rebuilt with four draft picks, they aso propably keep their 2019 and 2020 pick (top 14 protected), so they only have to give Boston a 2022 second round . And they can develop Bender and Ingram. And Clarcson would be the main scorer in that team, so his stock would go up and they can trade him later for draft picks.

18 Nov 2017 05:39:50
i don't think the wolves would have any interest in this. their current roster can contend for much of the foreseeable future, but i don't think that happens w/ o butler around.

and the clippers have delusions that they are contenders, so blowing it up doesn't seem like their move. i would be shocked if they didn't resign dj (unless he forces his way out like cp did)

18 Nov 2017 08:55:57

A Wiggins get a big contract next year, so the Wolves go over the cap. They also have to pay KAT a Max contract in 2019. Can/ will they pay the luxury tax? I really like Butler, but trading him for J Jackson and a second rnd pick would be a smart move. They don't need to win now, they still have time.

The Clippers do think that. But they're 5-9 and going to play for the eight spot, so this would be a smart move for them.

15 Nov 2017 14:15:35
Jazz Bucks 76ers

Jazz get Okafor and stauskas

76ers get Henson

Bucks get Favors

15 Nov 2017 17:43:57
Bucks/ 76ers

Buck send Vaughn, and 1-2 2nd rd. picks to Philly

76ers send Okafor.

Philly has no need for Henson and his contract.

Bucks have no need for Favors, and his contract. Okafor is younger, and more of a fit than Favors.

13 Nov 2017 09:14:35
I'm trying to make a Deng trade.

Philly: Ingram+Daniels

Suns: L Ball+ Deng

LA: Okafor+ 1rnd pick LA /or 1rnd pick Philly or Sac 2019+ 1rnd pick bucks 2018

Phoenix receive a PG with potential that fits the system. (And there's less pressure than in LA)

Philly get a young wingman

And LA get capspace and draft picks. They could sign LBJ, P george and D cousins. And they have the assets (draft picks) to trade for some good roll players. And they can start a rebuilt with the draft picks if they fail to land free agents.

13 Nov 2017 09:55:22
LA: * Monroe.

13 Nov 2017 12:46:37
Lakers not trading Ball.

13 Nov 2017 14:57:54
No way Magic will ever trade Lonzo Ball. He is basically the face of the franchise. Especially for a center that no one wants and a bunch of unknown players via draft picks.

13 Nov 2017 17:17:18
so the lakers trade their only two “untouchable” players (each a former number 2 pick) for some picks that won't even be top 5.yeah, ok.

13 Nov 2017 17:19:24
Actually, I should be all for that trade. As far as I'm concerned, the more the Lakers lose, the better chance the Celtics have at getting a 2 to 5 lottery pick.
Alas, the Lakers still won't trade Ball.

12 Nov 2017 22:02:42
Okafor + Return Nets 2018 2nd round pick (31-36)+ Rockets 2018 2ndround pick (55-60)
for Toronto 2018 1st round pick (18-22)

-Young offensive-oriented big former top 3 pick that still holds potential.
-Move up ten spots in upcoming draft while not giving up that much.

13 Nov 2017 18:48:01
Don't think the Nets are in a position to trade away first round picks.

11 Nov 2017 00:22:56
Lakers get: F Nikola Mirotic (expiring)
Bulls get: C Jahlil Okafor (rookie deal), G Jerryd Bayless (two years, $18M remaining)
76ers get: G Josh Hart (rookie deal), F Luol Deng (three years, $54M remaining), future protected 1st (Lakers)

Lakers open up 2018 cap space for a small price. The Bulls move Mirotic, who won't play a game for them, while getting Chicago native Jahlil Okafor. 76ers move Okafor, who must be moved, for a prospect in Hart, while taking on Deng's deal in exchange for a pick and dumping Bayless lessens the blow of Deng.

11 Nov 2017 04:24:02
The 76ers are past the point of taking on bad contracts. They're ready to spend on free agents that can help and that's not enough to get rid of Deng anyway.

11 Nov 2017 06:51:33
Think Deng will help the sixers especially with leadership. But a prospect plus a future pick from a already lottery team is worth it. Just top seven protected.

11 Nov 2017 09:15:11
Sixers say no to this deal instantly. Not a chance they take back Deng and his 3 yr/ 54million dollar anchor.

11 Nov 2017 19:40:43
Sixers have 3 guards currently out. (Stauskas, Bayless, and Fultz) It would be wise to trade for a guard. Milwaukee has 1-2 they would trade as they now have more than they need, with the addition of Bledsoe. Milwaukee can trade Vaughn or Dellavedova plus a 2nd rd pick to the Sixers for Okafor. The Bucks need a Center, Philly needs a Guard. Would work for both teams.

12 Nov 2017 10:24:00
But they still have enough guards (McConnell, Simmons, Redick, TLC, Korkmaz) . There's no need for a trade.

10 Nov 2017 11:38:51
What is the worst trade since 2010 besides the Nets- Celtics trade.

1) OKC- Hou
Hou: Harden
OKC: Lamb+K Martin/ 1rnd pick ( S Adams)

2) Clippers- Cleveland
Clippers: M Williams
Cleveland: b Davis+ 1rnd pick (K Irving)

3) NY- Tor
NY: Bargnani
Tor: Camby+ Novak+ 1rnd pick 2016 (Poetl)+ 2 2rnd picks

4) Suns-Bucks- Philly
Suns: B Knight+ Marchall
Philly: MC williams+ plumlee+ Ennis
Philly: protected 1rnd pick LA 2015 (2018 unprotected LA pick)
4)GS- Bucks
GS: Bogut
Bucks: M ellis

5) Other trade

10 Nov 2017 13:44:06
The Melo trade was pretty bad. Mozgov (who was flipped for 2 firsts later), Gallinari (good starter), Chandler ( good Starter), Felton (solid starter at the time), a 1st and 2 2nds.

Melo was a legit top 10 player at the time, but the Knick's roster was to depleted after the trade to really ever compete at a high level and I can't imagine there was another offer any where near that.

10 Nov 2017 14:10:31
Got to be the Mo Will for Boom Dizz and Kyrie deal.

10 Nov 2017 14:11:53
All good choices for bad deals but, I think if you asked "Media Anointed Genius" Sam Presti in OKC for a do-over, he'd find a way to hang onto James Harden. That team was genuinely scary with all 3 of those guys there.

10 Nov 2017 14:20:40
Maybe this trade was even worse than the Boston trade

Nets: D Williams
Utah: Favors+ D Harris+ 1rnd pick 11 (draft Kanter with 4rd pick, K Thompson, K Leonard and J Butler available) + 1rnd pick Golden state 2013 ( draft Dieng with the 21 pick, Gobert available) . + Cash

Or this one

Nets: G Wallace
Portland: Okur+ 1rnd pick ( D Lillard)

All trades on this forum looks good, if you look to the Nets trades :-)

10 Nov 2017 14:57:24
Golden State trading #3 pick (Kevin Mchale) and Robert Parish for the #1 pick (Joe Barry Carroll)

10 Nov 2017 14:59:18
Charlotte Hornets trading Kobe Bryant to the Lakers for Vlade Divac and bunch of crap.

10 Nov 2017 16:33:39
@ Yumbo, since 2010.

10 Nov 2017 18:47:29
Phoenix gets Marcus Thornton and the Cavs 2016 1st rounder (Skal Labissiere moved in a package for the Chriss pick)

Boston gets Thomas.

On the flip side of the Ainge coin, moving Perkins for Green.

10 Nov 2017 19:38:32
Gerald Wallace for the pick that became Lillard does stick out as pretty terrible.

10 Nov 2017 21:06:31
Forgot to mention that the two players from 1st rounder and pick swap were Jamal Murray and Saric. So both ended up as lottery picks.

10 Nov 2017 23:57:44
Mark Cuban would say rondo deal was a nightmare.

11 Nov 2017 02:43:01
James Harden trade was worse. and the mo will for Davis is close. 3rd choice is the love for Wiggins because the cavs could did Better or kept him.

11 Nov 2017 04:07:32
Love for Wiggins wasn't bad for the Cavs. Wiggins is a worse offensive player, rebounder, passer, and defender. Outside of being younger and more athletic, Wiggins reeally doesn't have anything on Love.

11 Nov 2017 07:00:32
I take Butler or George or cousins other then love because I believe Wiggins is better then what the bulls, pacers and kings gave up.

11 Nov 2017 14:11:56
Sixers get:Andrew Bynum (remember him? ) for Igoudala, Vucevic, Harkless, and a first round pick. Bynum never saw the floor for the sixers.

11 Nov 2017 17:05:47

That was a crazy trade indeed.

Funny that the Magic won that trade :-) :-) :-)

12 Nov 2017 00:33:28
Magic won that trade big time. And the same trade set the sixers back for years.

13 Nov 2017 13:41:09
Ohioboy, yeah, but you're talking about trades that happened 3 years, 3 finals appearance and a Championship after the fact. The Cavs went out and got the best player available for Wiggins and even though the fit has never been perfect, Love has given them more than Wiggins would have to this point.

08 Nov 2017 17:48:25
Suns - 76ers

Suns get Okafor and 2 best second round picks 2018

76ers get A. Williams and Bucks 1st round pick.

Suns get two picks in the 30ies this year instead of one in the mid 20ies in 2020 in addition to the chance of turning Okafor around. I don't expect the Bucks to miss the playoffs in the next years.

Philly does it because they have so many 2nd rounders.

08 Nov 2017 17:55:29
Okafor isn't worth a 1st round pick.

08 Nov 2017 18:10:01
Suns will hold on to the Bucks first, unless it's to move it in a bigger salary dump (ie. Chandler) or for a better player than Okafor.

06 Nov 2017 10:31:45
Hou: Okafor+Ellington

Philly: R Anderson+ 2rnd pick Hou

Miami: Bayless+ 1rnd pick Hou (lottery protected)

Hou receive capspace and CP3 could upgrade Okafor's value and maybe Nene could learn him some defense

Anderson can become a good sixth man in Philly and he could lead that young team.

Miami receive a backup PG and they get an extra pick ( i don't think they can hit the free agent market next year, so they can take Bayless's contract.

06 Nov 2017 14:47:49
Philly should get a first just for taking on Anderson's contract. I also don't like Okafor for Houston. He has 0 chance of being able to be even a rotation player with their play style.

02 Nov 2017 15:47:08

CHI get: Greg Monroe (exp), Jahlil Okafor (exp), and 2018 MIL 1st DP (lottery protected)

pg. Dunn/ Grant
sg. LaVine/ Holiday
sf. Valentine/ Pondexter
pf. Markannen/ Mirotic
c. Monroe/ Okafor

PHI get: Matthew Delladove, Cameron Payne, and Bobby Portis

pg. Delladova/ Payne/ Fultz
sg. Redick/ McConnell
sf. Simmons/ Covington
pf. Saric/ Johnson
c. Embiid/ Holmes

MIL get: Robin Lopez and Nik Stauskus

pg. Brogdon/ Terry
sg. Middleton/ Stauskus
sf. Antetekoumpo/ Snell
pf. Parker/ Teletovic
c. Lopez/ Maker/ Henson

02 Nov 2017 16:38:12
I'm not sure why the Bucks would be willing to do this. They need Delly since they're thin at point and their fine at the center position with Maker, Henson and Monroe.

02 Nov 2017 10:48:39
Cavs get okafor Covington
76ers osman zizic cavs 2nd Miami 2nd

Thomas rose Calderon
Smith wade shumpert
James Korver Covington
Love crowder green
Thompson okafor Frye

02 Nov 2017 13:17:36
Sixers decline immediately. Covington is a solid player and a shut-down defender. Sixers have waaaaay to many 2nd rd picks already. They have a young euro center they drafted and stashed this year ( no need for zizic) . So essentially osmam for covington does not interest philly at all. Sixers rather buyout okafor then ake this deal.

02 Nov 2017 09:22:35
Nets get: Jahlil Okafor

Sixers get: Quicny Acy and a future 2nd round pick.

*This would solve Philly's concern about compensation for Okafor and keeping some depth up front.

02 Nov 2017 11:33:05
Teams are going to wait for the inevitable Okafor buyout, no one is giving up a pick for him. That applies especially to the Nets, who are rebuilding and will want to keep every pick possible.

02 Nov 2017 23:42:03
They're not going to buy him out, they've clearly stated that they want compensation for him. Maybe Acy and a 2nd rounder are too much at the moment, but they'll get 'something' via trade.

02 Nov 2017 08:41:52
Indy: Fultz+ T Chandler

Phoe: C Joseph+ Okafor+ L Stephenson

Philly: Bledsoe+G Robinson III+ 1rnd pick Indy+ 1rnd pick Miami

02 Nov 2017 09:23:29
So Corey Joseph, Glenn Robinson and a first means the number 1 pick who has an injury?

02 Nov 2017 10:22:23
Phoenix gets a guy that can play pointguard and they dump chandler's contract, so they can hit the free agent market.

Philly wants to stop tanking, they lose a great prospect, but they receive a good pointguard, that can lead them. And both the Pacers and Miami pick have a good chance to become lottery pics, so they still can draft young prospects or trade the picks for missing pieces.
Philly will have three picks in next years draft, so they have the assets to trade for Porter or Donkic.

Indy takes a bad contract and loses propably a lottery pick, but they receive a player wit star potential. Indy wins the most, but they could lose the most, if Fultz becomes a bust or he can't stay healty this year, they could miss a good lottery pick.

And yeah, i'm a pacers fan and i propose this trade without shame :-)

02 Nov 2017 11:01:11
Makes no sense for philly. They have a pg in Simmons and Fultz fits perfectly as sencond ball handler who can play off ball.

02 Nov 2017 02:52:49
Suns - 76ers

Suns get: Fultz, Saric, Okafor, Bayless

76ers get: Bledsoe, Jackson, Dudley, a future 1st and 2nd rounder



02 Nov 2017 05:02:03
Sun's pass Jackson could be the best rookie in this class within a couple years. Fults is good, but he's already had 2 injuries since being drafted.

02 Nov 2017 08:14:58
i'm confused.
Philly shouldn't give up Fultz yet, two months ago, he was preticted to become a superstar.
And Phoenix gives up a lot, if Fultz becomes a bust.

01 Nov 2017 17:54:29

CHI get: Eric Bledsoe and Jahlil Okafor

pg. Bledsoe/ Grant
sg. LaVine/ Holiday
sf. Valentine/ Pondexter
pf. Markannen/ Mirotic
c. Okafor/ Felicio

PHI get: Matthew Delladova and Bobby Portis

pg. Delladova/ Fultz
sg. Stauskus/ McConnell
sf. Simmons/ Reddick
pf. Saric/ Covington
c. Embiid/ Portis

PHX get: Greg Monroe (exp) and Kris Dunn

pg. James/ Dunn
sg. Booker/ Daniels
sf. Jackson/ Warren
pf. Bender/ Chriss
c. Chandler/ Monroe

MIL get: Robin Lopez and Cameron Payne

pg. Brogdon/ Payne
sg. Middleton/ Terry
sf. Antentoumnpo/ Snell
pf. Maker/ Parker
c. Lopez/ Henson

01 Nov 2017 19:45:51
why would the bulls give up two younger pg’s for someone who doesn't for their timeline. bleds would be in chi for two rebuilding seasons, i don't like it.

01 Nov 2017 15:30:01

Philadelphia gets- Will Barton

Chicago gets- Jahlil Okafor, Semi Ojeleye, Nik Stauskas

Boston gets- Bobby Portis

Denver gets- Jerian Grant

Whats your thoughts?

01 Nov 2017 16:26:12
phil should jump on this, but i don't think bos or den would.

01 Nov 2017 17:46:56
It's an no for Denver

Boston could use Portis ( if everybody deserves a second chance)

I like this for Philly and Chicago.
Okafor could become a descent center in his hometown.

01 Nov 2017 17:59:03
I thought Boston would be a good place to unload Portis because thy can use a tall player that could hopefully play defense, and I thought Jerian Grant works because they need a backup PG and I feel like Will Barton isn't going to resign anyways.

01 Nov 2017 20:03:52
I like Portis, even if he's helped to break that team, and I wanted him in green during his draft. I think Semi has a solid future in Boston though, and Stevens seems to really like him.

01 Nov 2017 03:18:38
news is okafor could force a buyout, so philly should trade him now for just about anything they can get...

01 Nov 2017 11:12:10
I thought they could possibly get a late first out of him, but that seems to have been to optimistic. If he's asking out and they didn't pick up his option, he's worth almost nothing. At best another 2nd round pick for a team that has most of the 2nd round picks in the NBA already.

01 Nov 2017 12:16:03
Sorry Philly fans, with the decline of his option (right move), and his request for a buyout, there is no deal out there for Okafor that includes a pick.

Maybe an underperforming vet with a couple of years left on his deal, but I can't see Philly wanting to do that.

01 Nov 2017 13:57:03
Which Okafor aRe you talking about? Emeka or Jahlil? Both aRe with Philly, although Emeka is with their D league team. Not sure how Jahlil can force a butout, but pretty sure Emeka could.

01 Nov 2017 16:23:01
id do the buyout if i'm philly, cut my losses on okafor rather than probably trading him for a bad contract that will tie up the books, even if u could get a pick out of it. i wouldn’t even mind giving him most of his 5 mil (but likely closer to 3) owed this year, he is an afterthought for the sixers at this point. phil would have to get offered something by a team that wants him that doesn’t like their chances at okafor if he hits open market. (or a team that has no cap space, think miami, portland, toronto. but then youd think phil might have to give something else up)
so yeah, just give him the money.

30 Oct 2017 16:36:59

Milwaukee gets- Eric Bledsoe, Robin Lopez

Philadelphia gets- Greg Monroe

Pheonix gets- Matthew Delladova, Malcolm Brogdon

Chicago gets- Jahlil Okafor

What do you think?

30 Oct 2017 17:38:41
Why does Philly want Monroe?

30 Oct 2017 17:49:29
So philly receives an older version for Okafor. They should minimum get a second round pick from Chicago and Phoenix.

30 Oct 2017 23:38:18
Okafor has 0 trade value. The get rid of him because he hasn't lived up to potential and Philly has no need for him.

31 Oct 2017 16:06:01
But they don't have a need dir Monroe as well who's older and more expensive.

31 Oct 2017 23:47:40
@ps monroe is an expiring contract, they make the move for future cap space, i think they would want another young player tho, even considering okafor low value.

01 Nov 2017 11:14:45
The 76ers turned down the team option on Okafor. He's an expiring contract as well.

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