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23 May 2017 04:25:33

i assume if PG wants to go to LA anyway

IND : B.Ingram + J.Randle + L.Deng + future 1st round pick

LAL : P.George


LAL : D.Jordan + J.Crawford

LAC : J.Okafor + 2018 PHI 1st top 5 protected + J.Clarkson + HOU 1st via LAL

PHI : D'Russell + T.Mozgov + 2nd from LAL

LAL draft L.Ball

LAL signings

G.Hayward - max
P.Gasol - let him finish his career in LA
J.Jack-vet min

PG : L.Ball-J.Jack-T.Ennis
SG : G.Hayward-J.Crawford
SF : P.George-C.Brewer
PF : L.Nance-P.Gasol
CE : D.Jordan-I.Zubac

23 May 2017 04:40:12
No way the Clippers help out the Lakers and no way they take that package for DJ.

If anything the Clippers will look for a way to steal Paul George away from the Lakers since he actually grew up a Clippers fan.

23 May 2017 07:25:44
Take out ingram.

22 May 2017 22:31:35
76ers realistic offseason

3- Josh Jackson (Kansas)

-Waive Gerald Henderson (non-guaranteed)

•Free Agency:
-Sign Patty Mills 2yr 30m
-Sign Tyler Zeller 1yr 6m
-Sign Jodie Meeks 1yr 6m

PG: Simmons, McConnell, Bayless
SG: Mills, Luwawu, Meeks
SF: Jackson, Covington, Anderson
PF: Saric, Holmes, Long
C: Embiid, Okafor, Zeller.

23 May 2017 01:08:06
Simmons at PG would be terrible on defense. Simmons would be better off splitting time between the forward spots with Saric and Covington (and Jackson if Philly drafts him) .

23 May 2017 02:12:59
Mills could cover point guards defensively (he is a bit small to cover sg anyway) and Jackson would probably be better suited for sg with Simmons covering sf defensively but playing the role of a traditional point guard on offense.

23 May 2017 04:19:55
Exactly what Jaw said. Just because he's listed at point guard doesn't mean he's guarding opposing point guards.

22 May 2017 16:21:09

CHI receive Okafor and PHI picks #39,#50

NYK receive Bulls 1st round #16, PHI pick #46

PHI receive NYK 1st round #8, Noah

22 May 2017 16:58:22
Doubt the Bulls would give up the 16th pick for a backup center who can't rebound or block shots.

22 May 2017 18:12:27
Okafor is perfect for the Celtics.

22 May 2017 18:30:29
A backup center that is a decent scorer actually feels about right for the 16th pick. The history of the 16th pick is pretty similar: vucivic, Babbitt, speights, nick young, James Johnson.

I like the move for Chicago. I'm not a fan of Okafor as a starter, but as a backup he's solid. The trade really hinges on the knicks being that desperate to unload Noah. I don't think I would be that desperate, as it means the knicks will continue to try to improve through free agency, which hasn't been incredibly successful for them.

22 May 2017 19:01:49
Shizee. the Celtics who are in the process of being swept? Those Celtics?

22 May 2017 19:39:37
Except the Celtics won last night, so the brooms were put away. ;)

22 May 2017 20:33:21
The key to a multi-team deal is it has to work for all the teams. There's no reason for the Sixers to agree to this. Noah would be a large drag on the salary cap, while riding the bench. Take Noah out, then 3 2nd-rounders for the NYK's pick at #8? I don't think the Knicks would do that. So just take Philly out.

22 May 2017 21:56:54
It makes perfect sense for Phili. They aren't going to sign a big time free agent, why not use their cap space to get a high end asset? Noah's contract expires the same year that Simmons does, so the timeline lines up perfectly.

22 May 2017 22:07:09
I agree. But I think the Bulls won't take Noah. That's why I added the Sixers. Overall 3 2nd-rounders Okafor and the Noah might be enough.
Even if I don't think the Knicks would agree to a straight deal with the sixers.

22 May 2017 23:12:34
I like it for a sixers. even they got noah's contract.

23 May 2017 02:31:37
Noah to Philly is simply idiotic.

23 May 2017 04:27:46
Noah to philly make sense as long as the #8pick is attach. they can use him as third string center. i think theirs no A class free agent will go to sixers next season. maybe after a couple of years, that time philly is a good destination for A class free agent. you can unload noah's expiring contract using a couple of 2nd round picks or 2020 1st okc. and worst of worst a stretch provision (6m a yr) .

22 May 2017 12:13:23

Celtics get Jimmy Butler

Bulls get #1 pick and 2019 top 10 protected 1st (via BOS), Jahlil Okafor, Justin Anderson, #39 pick and a future 2nd (via PHI)

76ers get Avery Bradley and Tyler Zeller.

22 May 2017 14:51:37
That is ridiculous. Same answer as above.

22 May 2017 18:21:37
Celtics need another interior superstar scorer to go and unless the Pelicans are giving 1 up there is not 1 worth 1st overall pick.

22 May 2017 09:40:50
Philly: Russell+ 2020 1rnd pick top 10 protected.

LA: 3rd pick (Draft J Jackson)

C: Zubac/black/Mozgov
PF: Randle/Nance
SF: J Jackson/ Deng
SG: Ingram: Clarckson
PG: Ball/ Clarckson

22 May 2017 10:37:21
Not enough for #3 in a deep draft. That 2020 is maybe at the range of 15-25pick. Would you also trade #2 pick for okafor and protected top 10 2020?i think you will say NO even i will add saric, okc 1st 2020 and take deng's contract still you will say NO.

22 May 2017 11:00:07
I believe Russell is a great fit in Philly. They can use a shooting pg. He can play with Simmons and he can play off the ball

Fullz and Ball wil be gone. So Philly can draft Tatum, Jackson or Fox
Jackson is a great defender, but Philly needs a shooter.
Tatum is a prospect. He can be good or be a bust. Philly can't afford making draft mistakes after all these tanking years.
Fox is a great PG ( some say better than Ball), but he also need the bal to be great, so i don't think he's a great fit with Simmons.

So Russell isn't worth the third pick in general, but he is for Philly.

22 May 2017 12:10:29
If josh jackson is available at #3 it is no brainer. His potential is higher to all prospect other than fultz. A trio of jackson-simmon-embiid are good foundation. about the problem of having a sg, you can sign jj redict for 16-18m for 3yrs or a trade from the sun either bledsoe or knight. Sixers also have bayless for 2 years. And if it is true that d'angelo russell is available. I think a package of okafor (need chance of scenery), okc 1st 2020, 2 2nd rd picks for d'angelo and deng's contract will do or a good to start for a framework of a trade.

22 May 2017 16:59:17
Russell just isn't worth 3. Whether he's a good fit in Philly or not doesn't change that fact.

The Sixers might as well just take monk at 3 if they were to consider this deal.

22 May 2017 04:35:50

IND : J.Okafor + B.Ingram + LAL 2018 1st from PHI + HOU 1st 2017

LAL : P.George

PHI : L.Deng + D.Russell

22 May 2017 05:43:42
To much for the contract of deng.

22 May 2017 17:09:03
Lakers fan? . philly is giving up too much even before taking on dengs contract.

21 May 2017 23:56:36
Possible Okafor trades for Philly

1. 76ers-Blazers

76ers get Meyers Leonard and #20 pick

Blazers get Jahlil Okafor, #39 and #50 picks

2. 76ers-Jazz

76ers get Boris Diaw and #24 pick

Jazz get Jahlil Okafor, #39 and #50 picks.

22 May 2017 02:23:35
Which one is better and more realistic?

22 May 2017 16:54:21
I think both would be agreed to by the other teams, but I'm not sure if that's the kind of return that Philly would be looking for. They know they're not getting top 10 picks, but I think they would be looking for a pick in the teens.

22 May 2017 17:18:10
The only issue I see with these is Okagor. He's a backup at either of these new locations. If he's willing to accept that, then he might as well stay in Philly behind embiid.

21 May 2017 22:10:56
Philly: 2017 1st (6th) and Terrence Ross

Orlando: 2017 1st (3rd), 2017 2nd (39th) and Justin Anderson

Philly trades down and takes the player they want (Monk) and get a good wing with scoring ability (Ross)

Orlando moves up to get, hopefully, a cornerstone player (Fultz, Ball, or Jackson, whoever drops to 3) picks up another 2nd Rd pick and a young player with potential (Anderson)

22 May 2017 00:40:15
Sixers have no reason to agree to this trade.

22 May 2017 02:33:38
Really? They get the guy they want in Monk and get a sharpshooting wing with a career 3PT% of almost 40%. Everyone says 3rd pick is too high for Monk but 6th is just right. Ross is definitely better than Anderson and Philly slightly sweetens the pot with a 2nd RD pick. This would be a great deal for both teams.

22 May 2017 05:19:30
Is Ross enough to move from 6 to3? Seems like sixers could find more value in a trade elsewhere. d then you have philly adding a #2 and a role player to " sweeten the pot"? This is a great deal for orlando, not philly. i'd like to here from another poster who honestly thinks ross gets you from 6 to 3.

22 May 2017 09:07:00
This a trade idea on Bleacher Report, I'm a Magic fan but I look at things realistically while I think Monk is a perfect fit and Ross is a young vet on an ok contract I think Sixers would want more for a star potential 3rd pick in Jackson. Getting the 2nd rounder when they already have loads won't cut it so maybe a future asset as theirs not much on Magic's roster they want.
Sixers could trade down and having a guy like Monk could be like what Ray Allen was like for Boston. If they did I think they could have a bidding war between Orl, Pho, Nyk, Sac, Dal etc.

22 May 2017 17:21:12
To move from 3 to 6 would cost more then a bench player. there's No guarantee monk is available at 6th either.

21 May 2017 06:59:23
spurs 2017-2018

ginobili and parker

let go
gasol mills dedmon lee forbes and anthony

aldridge and 2018 2nd rd pick to det harris and stanley johnson

green to 2018 2nd pick frm phi for salary space

paul 105m 3yrs start with 33m
millsap 75m 3yrs start with 23m
collison 7m 2yrs 3.5m/ yr
sefolosha vet min
alex len 7m 2yrs 3.5m/ yr
muscala and tomas robinson for 5m

simmons 42m 4yrs start with 9m

line up
pg. paul/ collison/ murray
sg. sefolosha/ simmons/ johnson
sf. leonard/ anderson
pf. millsap/ harris/ bertans
c. len/ muscala/ robinson

still one available spot that they sign at the start or mid of the season.

21 May 2017 07:34:35
small ball

millsap/ harris/ leonard/ simmons/ paul.

21 May 2017 08:01:48
Paul and Millsap both are going to demand 4 years and max contracts and Len is going to cost probably 4 times that much.

Spurs should be able to get much more than that for Aldridge and I don't think Detroit is the best destination.

21 May 2017 10:57:37
Gasol has player option, can't just let him go if he opts in.

21 May 2017 20:43:45
Pau is not opting out of 16.1 million at age 37.

21 May 2017 06:53:08
76ers offseason

76ers: Jimmy Butler and #38 pick

Bulls:#3 pick,#36,#50,2018 1st rnd pick, jhalil okafor and robert covinghton

Kyle lowry-Max
Paul Millsapp-Max
Darren Collison-3yr/15 mill
Tony Snell-4 yr/24 mill

2017/18 lineup

Kyle Lowry/Darren Collison
Jimmy Butler/Gerald Henderson
Ben Simmons/Tony Snell
Paul Millsapp/Dario Saric
Joel Embiid/Tiago Splitter

21 May 2017 08:11:22
Those are some aggressive moves for the 76ers. Personally I think George Hill or Jrue Holiday would be a better fit than Lowry as they can play off-ball better allowing Simmons to better develop and play his best role and are younger but obviously not as good as Lowry. I think its tempting for the 76ers to pursue since it elevates them to 2nd best team in the east without sacrificing much of the future (they still have Lakers 2018 pick and Kings 2019 picks in addition to Simmons and Embiid) .

The trade for Butler I think may need a little more to convince Bulls especially if the 2018 pick is the 76ers (getting Butler alone severely decreases the value of the pick) although the Lakers pick could be volatile as well with them potentially dealing for George. However, #3 is a strong center piece with Jackson having superstar potential and 76ers definitely have the assets to make something work.

21 May 2017 21:01:13
Philly is not going to spend all that money to get half way up a ladder. Foolish.

21 May 2017 22:30:45
Half way up the ladder? . they would have the best roster in the east.

22 May 2017 01:30:37
What's on this site doesn't translate to the best roster in the East. The odds of that happening are ZERO!

But for laffs let's say that deal happened. Is Simmons going to be healthy? Is Embiid going to be healthy? There's lots of variables that could go wrong. Just saying. This is not an NBA Fantasy League. And that was an NBA Fantasy League thought.

21 May 2017 03:15:24
3 team trade between 76ers Lakers and pacers

76ers get D. Russell and B. Ingram
Lakers get J. Okafor and P. George
Pacers get 76er first round pick and L. dang

76ers Starting 5
Pg- Simmons

Lakers starting 5
Pacers start to rebuild with Myles turner and now 2 first rounders. One being the third overall pick.

21 May 2017 03:51:00
Must be a 76ers fan. Pacers get screwed.

21 May 2017 03:55:51
If I'm Pacers I'd prefer Russell and Ingram over 76ers Pick so don't think 76ers should be involved if this is all they are contributing. They'd have to add Lakers or 76ers 2018 pick to make it worth it.

21 May 2017 03:06:09
76ers get Russell and Ingram

Lakers get J. Okafor and Paul George

Pacers get L. Deng and number 3 overall pick (76ers first rounder) .

Sixers starting 5 next season
Pg Simmons
Sg Russell
Sf Ingram
Pf Sarcic
C Embid

Lakers starting 5 next season
Pg ball-ucla
Sg clarkson
Sf Paul George
Pf- Randall
C- Okafor

Pacers starting 5 next season.

21 May 2017 03:51:56
Pacers still get screwed.

20 May 2017 16:28:03

76ers get CJ McCollum, Meyers Leonard, and #26 pick (via POR)

Blazers get Jimmy Butler, #39 and #50 picks (via PHI)

Bulls get #3 pick (via PHI), Jahlil Okafor, Justin Anderson, and #20 pick (via POR)

20 May 2017 16:51:04
Love this trade for philly.

20 May 2017 17:54:02
I think the deal works for all teams. McCollum would be a perfect fit for 76ers. He'd be what they hoped Monk would become if they drafted him but is further along and can help 76ers make the playoffs (especially with Bulls dealing Butler and Pacers likely to deal George) .

Butler would be a great fit for Portland alongside Lillard and while they are at it they clear some cap space. They'd still have the #15 pick so they could make some moves or use it to help dump a contract like Crabbe (possibly to the Bulls in this trade) .

Bulls get an alright return on Butler with an heir apparent in Jackson who has superstar potential. They'd probably want some more but I like the outline of the deal and think something beneficial to all three teams could happen there.

20 May 2017 18:53:41
I was thinking the Blazers could trade #15, Evan Turner, and a 2nd rd to Brooklyn for like #27.

20 May 2017 23:22:43
Why so many unbelievables? Does Chicago just need more or what?

21 May 2017 00:09:07
Nba Brooklyn doesn't want to give up picks but they did say they will take a contract for a pick.

21 May 2017 00:51:19
I rather have the 3rd pick (josh jackson) than cj mccollum. i'm not against cj's talent and fit in philly but the timeline is not aline. although he is only mid 20s, we all know that cleaveland and lebron is at his peak. We can see that on celtics vs cavs series. When lbj's game deteriorate, cj also is unrestricted free agent on that time. So i'd rather pay jj reddict a 16-18m range for 3-4yrs then try to sign klay. curry, durant and green will be on max on that time and sixers are relevant and in an upward trijectory going to championship in that process.

21 May 2017 04:08:58
jun_iet23 That's a legitimate argument but you have to factor in the importance for a culture change in Philly. They need to ditch that "trust the process" motto and start winning games. McCollum would help do this and help get those young guys valuable playoff experience and also improve their perception around the league which helps with FA. You also need to factor in that 76ers have plenty of young talent in the pipeline with Lakers pick next year and Kings pick in 2019 and that will provide cheap assistance down the line.

As you state McCollum isn't that old and I doubt he'd walk from 76ers after 3-4 years after he'd likely be a major contributor for them in his ideal role from a bball perspective and they'd probably be pretty good with Embiid and Simmons as well as their draft picks if they keep Lakers and Kings picks. At this time 76ers could also go after a Klay or Green (Durant and Curry are both about to be locked up for 5 years) instead of McCollum if they think they are better fits.

20 May 2017 10:50:31

76ers trade 3rd pick, 36th pick, 39th pick, 50th pick, Okafor, Luwawu, Bayless and Long for 7th pick, LaVine, Dieng and Dunn.

Draft Monk 7th, Lessort 46th.

76ers sign George Hill 4 year max, sign Tavares 2 year 3 million.


20 May 2017 14:25:53
I like the trade for both teams, but dislike the Hill signing for the sixers. Even with lavine and mono, i'd still go after redick in free agency ( 2 year deal) . Saves a ton of money over signing Hill for 4 year max deal, and the more pure shooters surrounding simmons and embiid the better.

20 May 2017 15:12:56
Bad for Minnesota. Give up way too much value for junk to move up to draft who? Ball? Pass. Jackson? Wolves have Wiggins. Monk? Wolves have LaVine, so no need to trade up.

20 May 2017 06:09:24
Sooooooo, i have a theory!

Markelle fultz the consensus #1 pick in this years draft is projected to go to the celtics. Danny ainge himself has said he doesn't see a 19 year old coming and and leading a team to a championship and if they take fultz i have every reason to believe they'll trade him for an established star. Now any team trading with the celtics say the bulls or pacers would be trading for the most assets they can get to jumpstart they're rebuild. So instead of trading for that pick and say abery bradley or marcus smart/ terry rozier? Why not trade for multiple pick which i don't think the celtics would be willing to give unless they traded that number one pick for additional picks to a team with an abundance of picks liks say ehhhh the SIXERS!!! There isn't a team in the nba who that markelle would fit i'm with like the sixers. With them tanking for so long and have already believe to have their franchise cornerstones in embiid and simmons i don't think trading say this years 3rd pick the lakers 2018 pick and a protected top 5 2019 pick along with jahlil okafor would hurt their future and i don't see the celtics saying no. They can aquire the star they desire like a jimmy butler without giving up some of their core players and still have a strong possibility of adding a guy like gordon hayward though free agency. I really only see them having to give up a few picks and say jaylen brown and marcus smart for jimmy butler, add hayward in free agency and those picks/players they gave up mean nothing.

Again just a theory but i would love to see fultz on the sixers. As for the celtics i don't believe they'll be the same team next year and i don't think fultz is going to be apart of that franchise, i think its a smart move to move that pick for more picks and flip those exact picks and jaylen brown/marcus smart or terry rozier for butler. You get your young center in okafor through that philly trade. Aquire jimmy buckets, sign hayward and i think they could actually challenge the cavs.

Share your thoughts.

20 May 2017 10:34:45
Celtics very well may trade Fultz, whether or not they include 76ers in the deal depends heavily on the team involved and their preferences/ existing roster. I think its definitely a possibility especially with a lot of teams high on Jackson who likely will be there at #3. Lakers pick is a bit of a gamble with the George rumors tho and 76ers project to be much improved by 2019 so its questionable how much value there really is there.

Celtics as is don't have the cap space to sign a guy like Hayward

celtics blog

and will likely need to move a guy like Bradley to do so as well as make a few smaller moves. For this reason its highly unlikely Celtics add both Hayward and Butler (its likely an either or) especially when what they really need is an upgrade at center/ pf position with a better rebounder. I think ideal situation for Celtics would be to keep Fultz, move Bradley for a big man (has to be relatively low salary which makes it tough) to clear cap space to sign Hayward and some smaller moves to bolster their bench.

Trading for Butler however since he'd make only 17.5 mill compared to Hayward who would start at 30.6 mill would give Celtics more cap flexibility where they could add a better more established big man. I think investigating what Horford's value is wouldn't be a bad idea either (I think they should keep IT longterm) since although skilled on both ends he is on wrong side of 30, due a lot of money, a poor rebounder for his position and not the biggest body down low (Lebron is basically his size and much more athletic which is why he is killing them) .

20 May 2017 12:50:58
I see what you're saying but of the moves you suggested gets them past the cavs. Mark my words danny ainge is a greedy guy. The celtics are going to add hayward and butler. As far as the center upgrade. The can aquire robin lopez in that jimmy butler trade. Even if the can't keep guys like Bradley or crowder they're going to do what they need to do to get past the cavs. Keeping fultz does not do that.

20 May 2017 16:16:23
DA is not a greedy guy, he's a smart guy. Just because Brooklyn got the short end of the deal doesn't mean Danny was greedy, it meant that King and Prokhorov were the not so smart guys. This is a business and at the time the nets thought they had won the lottery, but in reality Boston won the lottery.

A trade of Horford would be a dumb idea, he's not the problem. That would only hinder the process in which they are on. Although it may seem like Hayward has the lead up to this point of becoming a Celtic I wouldn't look at it that way.

In what Jaws said, I mentioned that last week or the week before that trading for Butler made the most sense because of his 17.5 salary for 2 years gives them the flexibility to add another player of size that will shut down the lane. And R Lopez could be somewhat of that presence if they wanted to go that way. But Lopez is not a dominant rebounder, nor is he one for steals.

Trading picks with Orlando makes some sense as they could get the #6 pick in return and also get Vucevic, as it was known midway through the season he could be had. Use that #6pick, 18 Boston 1st pick along with Crowder to acquire Butler.

TRADE IT while his value is high. IT for Bledsoe would be my choice.

Bledsoe/ Rozier
Bledsoe/ Rozier/ Smart?

20 May 2017 16:59:42
Bledsoe/ Rozier
Bledsoe/ Rozier/ Smart?

20 May 2017 00:47:20
sixers offseason

PHI: #4, #5

PHX: #3, Henderson

SAC: Best of LAL/ PHI 2018, #32, #46, #50, #54, Warren, Anderson, Okafor, TWC

PHI draft Tatum, Monk, Jeanne, Bacon

PHX draft Jackson

Sign Ilyasova
Sign Reddick

PG: Simmons/ TJ/ Bayless
SG: Monk/ Reddick/ Stauskas
SF: Tatum/ Covington/ Bacon
PF: Saric/ Ilyasova/ Long
C: Embiid/ Jeanne/ Holmes

PG: Monk
SG: Tatum
SF: Simmons
PF: Saric
C: Embiid

(This does not include the rest of the Suns and Kings offseason)

20 May 2017 07:02:59
Suns moving up and 76ers moving down makes sense since Jackson is a great prospect but not a great fit for 76ers but I'm not sure that offer convinces Kings to part with #5 pick when Fox looks like a great fit for them.

19 May 2017 22:27:01
Magic trade 6th pick, Biyombo, Hezonja, Watson
Magic get 4th pick from Suns, Knight, Okafor

- draft needed SF Tatum with 4th pick, also get former 2nd overall pick Okafor and still young 2-guard Knight. move also gains cap space to have more flexibility!!!

Suns trade 4th pick, Knight
Suns get 3rd pick from 76ers, Watson

- draft needed SF Jackson

76ers trade 3rd pick, Okafor
76ers get 6th pick, Biyombo, Hezonja

- draft needed SG Monk
- Simmons needs shooting and athletism around him: add 2 athletic shooter with this down-trade (Monk and Hezonja) and another energizer, defenisve presence in C/PF Biyombo, trust the process

20 May 2017 07:09:10
Suns and Magic are getting too much. 76ers should be able to do much better. Knight doesn't move you up from #4 to #3 and not sure why 76ers would want any part of Biyombo's contract. Generally tho Suns moving up to #3, Magic moving up and 76ers moving down makes sense for the three teams the value just has to make more sense.

19 May 2017 20:34:07

Steps in the offseason

1.Sixers get D.Russell
Lakers get: Sixers 2018 unprotected #1, this year picks #36, 39, and Okafor.

2.Sixers sign JJ Redick 3yr/$48mill

3.Sixers sign Ilyosova 2yr/$22 mill

4.Sixers draft Josh Jackson

I think in todays " positionless" NBA, the mix of ball handlers, shooters, shut down wing defenders, and a strong two-way presence in the middle makes this team young, strong, deep, and very good. A starting 5 of:
Russell, Redick, J.Jackson, Simmons, and Embiid. Simmons as the primary ball handler. Bench of Saric, Covington, Holmes, Ilyosova, Bayless, Luwawa-Cab, McConnell, Anderson, Stauskas, pick#46.

19 May 2017 20:52:47
One slight change: Instead of sixers "unprotectwd" 2018 #1, change it to the less favorable of the sixers and lakers 2018 #1 picks (sixers own rights to both) .

19 May 2017 21:02:09
Lakers say no. all this talk about trading Russell is garbage. Both Russell and Lonzo play good off the ball as well as on it. This backcourt is going to be dynamic.

19 May 2017 21:21:56
No way they give up the 1st unprotected, okafor, and 2 2nds. wayyyy too much for a guy that was drafted 1 slot ahead of okafor and has that many turnovers.

19 May 2017 21:31:56
Lakers would probably just want their own 2018 pick back instead of taking the 76ers. Even then I'm not sure how interested Lakers would be in that although 2018 draft class would enable them to potentially get the franchise center that Lakers have historically had. As Daniel20 mentions Russell and Lonzo could easily coexist and be a great tandem in the backcourt so I don't think Lakers have to rush into a deal now that they are likely to get Lonzo.

They'd probably want to test the two out together and see how 76ers and Lakers records look before potentially moving Russell for a 2018 draft pick.

20 May 2017 00:51:34
Gpack17 where guys are drafted have no bearing on their value two years out. With that logic Okafor should be more valuable than Porzingis since he was selected 1 pick before him but this obviously can't be further from the truth.

Seeing the two play for two years Okafor has proven to be a good post scorer but a sub par defender and rebounder for his size and is a poor shooter and average athlete making his ceiling not that high and a poor fit for most nba teams. Russell did have a disappointing 2nd season overall but I think he showed enough in his first season and at the end of this past season for many to believe he has the potential to be an all-star caliber player at either guard spot due to his shooting ability, size and craftiness. Russell's assist to turnover ratio was pretty bad (2nd worst only to Clarkson for point guards) and this is a reason I think Russell would be better suited to play most of his minutes at shooting guard and bringing in Ball to be a natural pg would help him a lot. If he were to go to 76ers with them having Simmons I believe he'd also be in a position where he'd be at his best as a combo guard with Simmons handling a majority of traditional pg duties.

19 May 2017 18:58:27
This is a crazy one but could benefit both teams.

Orl get Phi and Lal 1st rounders 2018

Phi get 6th pick
Draft Jackson and Monk

Orl tank next year with 3 1st rounders that's 3 chances at landing a top talent like Porter etc and hope that the Sixers and Lakers don't improve that much.

Phi get Monk and build a complete team of
Simmons, Monk, Jackson, Saric, Embiid.
With them and the lakers landing top picks they should be better so the 1st's should be later and they risk two unknown first rounders for the 6th which gets them a decent player in a loaded draft.

19 May 2017 21:06:01
Its definitely a roll of the dice for the 76ers that I think may be worth it. Jackson is a tremendous talent they'd be foolish to pass on while Monk would be a great fit as a young perimeter threat. 76ers did go on a bit of a streak before Embiid got shut down so maybe it isn't unrealistic to expect them to compete for a playoff spot especially with Pacers and Bulls both potentially moving their stars. With Lakers bringing Magic aboard they seem poised to make a moves to try and compete and even if they don't that young team got off to a hot start last season so maybe being a year older and adding a talent like Ball they are able to sustain it longer. Additionally, the 2018 draft class is reportedly stocked with bigs so its questionable if they'd be able to find a player that would fit their team well (certainly none as well as Monk) . Only downside is that although Simmons, Monk, Jackson, Saric and Embiid would be a scary lineup it would be one that would be nearly impossible to sustain past their rookie deals with all being so close in age and likely to command sizeable contracts in RFA (a-la Thunder with Durant, Westbrook, Harden and Ibaka) .

For Orlando its a gamble as well. I project Tatum and Fox will be gone by #6 so they are looking at Issac, Monk and Smith. I don't see any of them being major difference makers for the Magic so maybe its worth getting what may still be two lotto picks (albeit later lotto picks) to add with their pick (which will likely be top 5) to revamp that roster or give them decent chips to play with.

19 May 2017 22:22:07
The Magic have had bad luck in the draft Falling nearly every year missing out on Embiid and Porzingis who were taken pick before theirs. They have no future First rounders except their own and with no star or draw for decent free agents it's probs best to put themselves in the best position to land a young Star otherwise they will be at best a team fighting for the 8th seed.

The contracts will be close regardless if they draft two players or one in this lottery but they got a few years to sort that out they have so many assets in 2nd rounders and draft and stash players etc that they can afford to get flexible later o and trade pieces for cheaper contracts, picks or cap space etc.

20 May 2017 01:05:02
Ballsy, but I like it for both teams Orlando aren't getting what they need at 6 and that Philly lineup could grow into something special.

19 May 2017 12:53:30
Philadelphia: 2017 1st (6th), both 2017 2nds, and Biyombo

Orlando: 2017 1st (3rd) and Okafor

Philadelphia moves slightly down and receives 2 high 2nd round picks

Orlando moves up and gets Okafor, maybe change of scenery does him well.

Orlando drafts Jackson (3rd) and Giles (25th)

Philadelphia drafts Monk or Fox (6th) plus whoever with their other picks

19 May 2017 13:11:15
Sixers have tons of 2nd rd picks. not enough to trade down for sixers.

19 May 2017 13:34:42
I'm alright with Philly trading down since Jackson isn't the ideal fit for 76ers, Monk's shooting ability would be a great fit at #6. However, 76ers need to get a great return since Jackson is a very good prospect. 2 2nds and Biyombo's big contract don't really help the 76ers at all. Fournier and Ross are probably all 76ers would be interested (solid wings who can shoot) in of the Magic other than future first round draft picks. For me it would probably take something like Fournier and Magic top 5 protected 2018 pick in addition to #6 for 3rd pick and Okafor.

19 May 2017 13:54:44
Hezonja? Could potentially be involved in this deal! Not sure how Orlando are feeling about him now.

19 May 2017 15:01:23
Its comical that you add 2 second rounders to this trade. Sixers already have 4 this year, why would they want more? I could see sixers trading this pick, but not to orlando.

19 May 2017 15:07:50
Agree that the sixers theoretically could move down because they do need some more shooting/ guards to fit with embiid Simmons and saric, but the idea that jackson doesn't fit at all is false.

Even if Simmons doesn't work out at the point guard spot, they still could have all of him jackson and saric rotate at the 3 and 4. Depending on matchups I could even see all three of them together on the floor when embiid needs a blow.

Because of the foresight of the previous GM, they still will have two firsts in the next 3 drafts which m9re then likely atleast 1 lottery pick in each. They at this point should still be taking the best player available. Jackson is that.

19 May 2017 15:36:46
I'm a Magic fan and I can't see this happening. Sixers trading down for Monk is a good idea as he can spread the floor, get hot, create his own shot, defend pg's, he can get to the basket and is fairly athletic which would fit well next to Simmons who will run the offence and he can cover his weaknesses by matching up against big sg's.
But Biyombo is an overpaid rim protector and two seconds when Sixers already have loads of 2nds.

Sixers would probably go for the 6th pick and a future 1st for the 3rd pick as Magic aren't projected to get better anytime soon so that would be a lottery pick and an asset for their future to trade or build with.

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