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25 Apr 2018 00:47:28
Pelicans/76ers Trade

Pelicans Receive: Justin Anderson

The Pelicans need shooting badly. Solomon Hill's production has been minimal and E'Twan Moore is overpaid and inconsistent. That leaves them with Darius Miller and Jordan Crawford who are really not primary rotation players. Justin Anderson has had many spurts of lights out shooting and good overall shooting performances. He would be a big help to this team.

76ers Receive: 2nd round pick

The 76ers are overloaded with guards and could use an extra pick in case they find a gem in the second round or want to trade up.

25 Apr 2018 03:20:42
The Sixers already have four second round picks this year, and multiple ones in each of the next two seasons. The last thing I could see them wanting is another 2nd. If Anderson's deal were for more money next year, or he wasn't getting any minutes, maybe, but he is a regular contributor to a team that will already either be stashing or dealing seconds for at least the next three years.

24 Apr 2018 16:41:02
nba trade on draft trade
if leonard really want to leave in spurs and not signing in 2019 with spurs trade him

leonard to knicks
frank ntilikina, tim hardaway jr and 2018 new york knicks 1st rd pk for kawhi leonard

leonard to trailblazers
cj McCollum and 2018 portland trailblazers 1st rd pk and 2020 1st rd pk for kawhi leonard

leonard to clippers
deandre jordan, danilo gallinari and 2018 los angeles clippers 1st rd pk for kawhi leonard and pau gasol

not to lakers: spurs ban and trade offer from lakers
not to celtics: maybe celtics can't reach nba finals i believe celtics is a contender next season when irving hayward is back and brown on her 3rd season and tatum on her 2nd season
not to 76ers i don't think 76ers need leonard 76ers lead 3-1 over heat and 1 games left to advance in semi finals and can sign lebron james

any thoughts?

25 Apr 2018 03:36:14
All of those are terrible, Spurs hang up on the opposing GM every time.

23 Apr 2018 19:36:33
Bucks loose in 1st round and blow it up :0
Bucks send Middleton and Delly
Lakers send Zubac, Brandon Ingram , Luol Deng , 2018 Cavs 1st , 2020 Lakers 2nd
Seems fair for both

Bucks send Giannis
Philly sends Fultz , Saric , Covington, 2018 Lakers 1st , 2018 Philly 1st

Thoughts ?

23 Apr 2018 20:10:11
No way do they trade Giannis.

23 Apr 2018 20:27:10
Lakers are not giving up Ingram and a first for Middleton. While they rid themselves of Deng's deal, Delly's is not much better.

Giannis seems genuine about staying in Milwaukee, and the Bucks want him there. No deal from there end in the second deal.

23 Apr 2018 20:37:01
I agree the Bucks are "loose" in the first round. They are playing with confidence and not rattled by the moment

but if they did lose. Giannis is still untouchable.

23 Apr 2018 22:19:58
I think Giannis and AD are the most untouchable players in the game right now. Middleton is also huge in this Boston series. Even if they loose, MIL should first use their other assets for a third solid guy. Only one player like Leonard, Walker, Jordan, Drummond, Love could make them immediate contenders.

21 Apr 2018 23:59:22
The 76ers get Mcollum

The Blazers get Fultz, Bayless and 18 and 19 Philly 1sts

22 Apr 2018 00:36:47
Swap the 19 pick with the lakers pick (projected #10 I believe) . I’d also want Saric if I’m Portland. Maybe a Harkless/ Saric swap too.

22 Apr 2018 01:16:32
Bmiller, I like McCollum, but I can't see anyone giving up that for him. He's a great offensive player, but he's a combo guard with defensive limitations.

22 Apr 2018 07:26:41
Without the 10th pick you’re giving up two very late firsts, and guy with minimal value, and a guy with no value.

Saric, Fultz, and 10 seems positive for both teams. Phili gets a guaranteed talent and a third star to push them to a contender. Portland gets two high potential assets and a decent role player.

22 Apr 2018 09:36:45
I agree with Rkenne.
McCollum is good, but you don't get equal value for him in a trade.

Portland is going nowhere with the duo Lillard-McCollum, so getting Fultz is a great return and the draft picks are a good bonus.

22 Apr 2018 11:54:33
Bmiller, I think the value I'm putting on Fultz and you're putting on Fultz are just far apart. I think, he's shown a ton since he came back. He looks like he can be an elite passer, he's an elite athlete, and he's got the size to guard wings. While I get the concern about his shot, it looks good and he was a solid 3 point shooter in college. I'd put money on him being a decent 3 point shooter next year. I think his value is still atleast 80 or 90 percent of what it was. He dealt with a weird injury and the 76ers didn't handle it well at the beginning of the year, but he seems like he's past it and I wouldn't imagine it be an issue going forward. If you threw him in this draft, he would probably still be a top 3 pick.

22 Apr 2018 11:56:07
Also, Portland saves like 10 million this year and just shy of 20 million next year in this deal. That's pretty big for a team with Portland's cap issues.

22 Apr 2018 14:22:25
Yeah, I just can’t value Fultz that high after 14 games. He’s got the value of a mid teens pick to me. If they trade McCollum for Fultz, best case scenario they end up with someone as good as McCollum and they’re in the same situation they already were in. Worst case Fultz flops, and they waste a year or two.

20 Apr 2018 23:48:32
What's the best offer the Spurs can get if Leonard really wants out and play for a big market team.
Teams aren't going to give fair value for him. So what's the best offer?

1) Miami
Adebayo+ Winslow+Dragic

Deng+ Ingram+ future draft pick

Harris+ Detroit and Clippers pick

Tatum+Morris+future draft pick
or Hayward+ Future draft pick

Ntilikina+Hardaway+ draft pick

Bayless+Fultz+LA pick

7)Chicago: R Lopez+Portis+ 1rnd pick 2018 and 2020

21 Apr 2018 02:56:55
Deal by deal:

1) no, Winslow has been a disappointment, and Spurs are going to want a pick too.

2) HECK NO! No way they take on Deng's contract, and what pick do the Lakers have to give that would be top 5 after they acquire Leonard. Personally, I don't even know if I like Ball over Dejonte right now.

3) no, Harris is a nice player, but him and two late lottery picks are nowhere close.

4) closer, I could see Tatum, Morris and two draft picks (one being Lakers/ Sac) if Leonard gave a nudge, nudge, wink, wink on resigning.

5) HECK NO, I know Frank is not better than Dejonte, Hardaway is a nice role player on a large contract, and number 9 is nowhere close.

6) take out Bayless, add in either Covington or Saric, add in the Sixers pick, and you're close.

7) no Lopez, add Valentine instead, who with Portia and the two picks gets you close.

I agree the Spurs are going to have to sell a little low on Kawhi, but all of these are not value enough to get him.

21 Apr 2018 03:25:16
Porzingis Hardaway for Leonard.

21 Apr 2018 11:21:25
P george was traded for Oladipo (not a star he's now) and Sabonis, the Pacers couldn't even get a draft pick for him.
Butler was traded for a late lottery, LaVine and Dunn.
Both trades turned out good for the Bulls and the Pacers.

All these trade give the the Spurs the opportunity to develop young players.

No team is going to give up fair value for Leonard. P George and LBJ are on the market this year, K Thompson, Butler, the next. No team is going to do a new C Anthony to the Knicks trade.

21 Apr 2018 13:05:56
Butler and George are not Leonard, and most these deals have mediocre young players and picks.

21 Apr 2018 13:44:06
I think these assets give them a good opportunity to rebuilt.
And the Miami offer gives them the opportunity to stay competitive for a few years.

22 Apr 2018 07:05:55
gasupo I agree to triangle O Butler and George is not Kawhi, kawhi Leonard is NBA champions NBA finals MVP an all star and dpoy and he also the one who gets championship back in 2015 in Spurs and also more accomplished than Butler and George.

19 Apr 2018 20:49:33
If Boston gets the LA pick this year

Boston: WC Stein
trade: Yabusele+ Memphis pick 2019

Phoenix: Fox
trade: T Chandler+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021+ 2rnd pick Phoe 2018

Philly: Hield
Trade: Bayless+ 1rnd pick Sac+ 2rnd pick Philly 2018

Sac: T Chandler+ Bayless+ Yabusele+ return 1 rnd pick Sac 2019+ 1rnd pick Memphis 2019+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021+ 2rnd pick Phoe and Philly

20 Apr 2018 03:39:33
WC Stein is not worth a first round pick and Yabusele.

20 Apr 2018 13:27:10
It's a lot of picks to Sac town, but I don't like giving up Fox, who is their future. Having none of these picks purvey in this year's draft just adds to the Kings saying no.

20 Apr 2018 15:37:44
TB, you're 100% correct, but if you look through the first part, the Celtics aren't giving up a pick. This would be if the LA pick winds up at 2-3 this year meaning the Celtics get it, and likely one of Ayton, Bagley or Doncic. If that happens, that Sacramento pick is Philly's so they would be the ones giving it and Bayless up for Buddy. You can definitely argue if that's worth it for Philly though.

19 Apr 2018 17:07:41
This trade is just based on Devin Booker saying He wants to win !
76ers send - Fultz , Saric , Bayless , 2018 Lakers 1st , 2018 Philly 2nd

Suns send - Knight , Booker

I can just see Booker in a 76ers uni !
Plus they'll still have cap space this summer to sign some ring chasing vets or could still snag Lebron :0 !
Thoughts ?

19 Apr 2018 17:27:52
My thoughts are that its a pipe dream. Just because Booker said he wants to win doesn't mean that the suns are going to trade him. He is the face of the franchise and they have a lot of assets around him to trade away to make their own team better.

19 Apr 2018 17:40:32
He's still on a rookie deal and is most likely locked in for another 4 years unless he wants to risk a 100 million dollars to leave the Suns 2 years early.

19 Apr 2018 19:06:13
i see booker as untouchable. and the suns can be that winning team in a couple yrs, booker is still so young. the suns have the assets to bring in a star (kawhi? ) and jackson and their top 4 pick this year can fit that playoff team in a few yrs timeline.

19 Apr 2018 02:29:59
Cavs if Lebron goes bye bye

Trade Kevin love to philly for Dario Saric,Jerry's Bayless,pick 10,pick 38,furkan Korkmaz,Justin Anderson,2022 sixers 1st top 9 protected

George hill to Minnesota for pick 58,Jeff Teague,Justin Patton

Trade Tristan Thompson, 2 2nds to Atlanta for 2023 2nd

Lebron James signs with Houston Rockets 2yr 75mil sign and trade Eric Gordon,zhou qi,2020 1st

Brooklyn pick lands 3 trade down to 6 Chicago and Kyle kroverfor pick 6,pick 22,2019 bulls pick top 6 protected,jerian grant

Buy out jr smith

Trade Eric Gordon to Portland for pick 26,Cale's Swanigan,Myers Lenord

6-Collin Sexton

10-Mikal Bridges

22-Zaire smith

26-Mitchell Robinson

38-Jevon carter

58-josh okogie

Sign a bunch of g league prospects,young players

19 Apr 2018 07:07:55
that is way, way too much for kevin love.
and the 2nd trade would be more fair if hill was the one being packaged with assets.
and that pick trade with chi is lopsided too.
smith and robinson will likely be gone by those stages of the draft also.
but nice try trying to danny ainge a chest of draft picks.

19 Apr 2018 12:25:40
If Minnesota wanted Hill, they would have signed him last year instead of Teague.

18 Apr 2018 15:08:31
Philly- NO

Philly: A Davis

NO: Fultz+ Saric+ 1rnd pick LA+ 1rnd pick Philly

Philly sign Hood

C: Embiid
PF: A Davis
SF: Covington
SG: Hood
PG: Simmons

18 Apr 2018 17:13:42
nah, fultz is a question mark rn, maybe if that lakers pick lands first overall, but it still seems like a trade NO would have to be back against the wall to go for, and that doesn't seem like their position currently.
maybe rehash this next summer if fultz is coming off a phenomenal season.

18 Apr 2018 19:43:05
Pelicans are up 2-0! Even if they lose in the next round they wouldn't trade Davis, especially for those uninspiring pieces. They're going to make some moves in the offseason around Davis, not trade him away.

18 Apr 2018 21:08:14
Not even close.

19 Apr 2018 00:02:35
Simmons is the cost for AD and neither team is doing it.

18 Apr 2018 14:38:30
Brian Windhorst on ESPN (very reliable when it comes to Lebron) said that Kawhi's and Lebron's futures are linked and that Lebron will reach out to Kawhi after playoffs to discuss potential landing destinations. Windhorst mentioned Philly, Lakers and Clippers as potential destinations. Kawhi will be a free agent in 2019 and can demand which team the Spurs trade him to and Lebron can also force a sign and trade like Chris Paul did last summer.

Let's look at the Clippers case. Jerry West is probably the best in the business and has contributed in building superteams including this current Warriors team. Steve Ballmer is also willing to pay "whatever it takes" to get his team a championship. Clippers could package two lottery picks and Tobias Harris (very good player) for Kawhi which he would push the Spurs to accept or lose him for nothing.
Clippers could then sign Lebron and Paul George

- Tobias Harris, 2018 Clippers 1st, 2018 Detroit 1st for Kawhi Leonard

- Lebron James - 3yrs/100M (S/T with Gallinari off to Cleveland)
- Paul George - 3yrs/100M
- Deandre Jordan opts in
- Fill out the bench with vets and young players for minimum contracts

Total Payroll would be around $140M

PG - Beverley, Rivers, Evans
SG - George, Williams, Thornwell
SF - Kawhi, Dekker,
PF - Lebron, Harrell,
C - Jordan,

18 Apr 2018 15:00:59
Clippers don't have cap space for that. Gallinari takes up 20m.

18 Apr 2018 15:22:09
I like this idea, but the Clippers need to trade Gallinari to make this work.

18 Apr 2018 16:22:10
Why would the Cavs take on Gallinari's contract? He's overpayed, always hurt, about to be thirty, it would keep the Cavs deep in the luxury tax, and the Cavs will be tanking if Lebron leaves. I can't see them taking on major salary without getting some significant assets back.

Also, Kawhi doesn't have much control over where he's traded. He can't just pick one team and say trade me there. He's under contract and doesn't have a no trade clause.

The Clippers would be the worst of the 3 options you mentioned. The Lakers and Philly both have significant cap space and young talent. The Clippers are capped out and just to get Lebron and Kawhi, they would probably have to trade every asset they have and there's no way they would be able to bring in George, Lebron, and Leonard.

18 Apr 2018 16:36:43
That would be after the 2019 season. And, he CAN'T, demand to be traded to someplace he wants o be traded to. That is ridiculous. The Spurs will trade him to whomever has the best offer. If the best offer is from the team he wants to go to, fine. But it will be on the Spurs terms not his.

18 Apr 2018 16:30:16
One huge problem with your logic: Leonard can’t demand the spurs trade him to a specific team. If he wants out, they have absolutely no loyalty to him or what he wants. Look at Paul George as precedent of that. George wanted to go to the Lakers, but Indy didn’t care. And there would absolutely be teams that would take him on a rental and risk him bolting.

18 Apr 2018 21:11:42
Not to mention that LBJ is a FA this off season and he will be signing a long term contract somewhere.

17 Apr 2018 23:31:07
Philly: Kennard+Bullock+ 1rnd pick Detroit 2020

Detroit: Fultz

Sign: LBJ to 66M 2y contract
sign:IT to 10M 1Y contract
sign B Lopez: 20M 1Y contract

PF: LBJ/ Saric
SF:Bullock/ Covington
SG:Kennard/ J Anderson
Pg: Simmons/ IT

18 Apr 2018 03:05:14
Idk that's two over 40% 3 point shooters on very cheap contracts, not sure what fultz is valued at.

18 Apr 2018 03:37:00
I don't think Philly trades Fultz whilst his value is low. IT wouldn't play with Lebron again. Brook Lopez will get 8m at most, maybe 10-15m if he goes to a rebuilding team as a mentor.

18 Apr 2018 19:46:36
Not enough for Fultz. Even though he had a disappointing season, he was still the first pick and still has potential. Two bench guys and a future unknown first is not enough.

16 Apr 2018 06:13:29
Spurs/ Sixers:

To PHI - Leonard

To SAS - Covington, Saric, 2018 LAL 1st, 2018 PHI 1st, 2018 Knicks 2nd, 2020 PHI 1st

Should the Sixers not feel like they can land LBJ, going after Kawhi would make sense for them. KL, Joel, Simmons and Fultz could terrorize the L for years.

Spurs land a underrated Covington who is on a very reasonable contract (AAV of $11M for 4 more seasons), there starting PF for the future, and a cache of picks. I know some people have suggested Fultz be a target, but I think Covington is the way to go. Also, I do believe the Spurs already have their PG of the future in Dejonte, who does not have Fultz upside, but I would rather him and Covington vs. him and Fultz, and then trying to fill the SF hole without cap space. With three firsts this year, there is an opportunity to get two quality players and stash a good prospect with the Philly pick.

16 Apr 2018 06:40:15
I like this for both teams as long as KL agrees to sign after the season.

16 Apr 2018 14:55:58
That's the key, Wiz. If he re-signs. That is why S. A. may have trouble getting full worth for Leonard. If he doesn't want to sign an extension, teams are nor giving up top dollar for him.

16 Apr 2018 19:20:10
Covington saric and 1 decent first? I think since leonard only has 1 year and is coming off a injury. This might be the best they can get. the other 1st are garbage if Leonard end up playing and sticking around with the sixers.

17 Apr 2018 14:53:02
I like your post triangle o

If your post done this off-season

Spurs moves supposed to be like this

Draft Kevin Knox ( 2018 76ers pick via Lakers)
Draft Zhaire Smith ( 2018 Spurs own pick)
Draft Keita Bates Diop ( Knicks 2nd pk )

Resign Parker 2 yr/ min vet
Resign Anderson 3 yr/ $$$
Resign bertans 2 yr / $$$

Spurs depth
Pg Murray, Mills, Parker, white
Sg green, ginobili, smith
Sf anderson, Knox, diop
Pf aldrigde, saric, gay
C Gasol, Bertans, lauvernge.

15 Apr 2018 13:11:29
76ers trade Fultz, TLC, Korkmaz, 10th pick 2018 (Lakers), 1st round pick 2019 (Kings), 38th pick 2018 (Nets)
Spurs trade Leonard

It's like 4x 1st rounder (Fultz + Lakers pick 2018 + Kings pick 2019 + 2x young talents including the 38th pick 2018)

- resign: Redick, Belinelli, Ilyasova, A.Johnson
- still own 3 x 2nd round pick 2018 (Rockets', Knicks' and own)

+ add 10th, 18th, 38th and 49th pick
- let Parker, Lauvergne, Forbes walk. Manu retires due to rebuild, so Gay and Green will not pick up their player's option, let them also walk
- resign Anderson, Bertans
- Spurs and coach Pop are the best in develop european talents like TLC and Korkmaz
+ main reason: Fultz and Lakers' (2018) and Kings' pick (2019)

15 Apr 2018 13:51:36
Sixers don't have the kings 2019 pick, it was traded to Boston.

15 Apr 2018 18:56:29
They either get the Lakers pick OR the Kings pick, not both.

Korkmaz out, Saric in and you may get closer but still not have it happen.

14 Apr 2018 17:34:52
Kyle krover to philly for pick 39

14 Apr 2018 19:22:44
Can you please stop.

14 Apr 2018 22:15:03
Pick 29 of the 2008 NBA draft maybe.

14 Apr 2018 13:22:48
kawhi leonard trade offer

suns receives: kawhi leonard, patty mills

spurs receives: Josh Jackson, Dragan Bender, Tyler Ulis #15 and #17 pick (via miami and via bucks)


timberwolves receives: kawhi leonard, patty mills

spurs receives: tyus jones, justin patton, andrew wiggins and #23 (via thunder)


knicks receive: kawhi leonard

spurs receives: courtney lee, lance thomas, frank ntilikina #9 #37 (from knicks) and knicks 2019 1st rd pk lottery protected

what team leonard landed if not to celtics lakers and 76ers what to knicks, wolves and suns

14 Apr 2018 15:17:28
knicks trade can't happen. if the knicks trade the #9 pick this year, they can't trade their #1 next year, lottery protected or not. can't be without a #1 pick in consecutive years according to the rules.

14 Apr 2018 16:07:15
The 1st one is decent if the Suns want to roll the dice on an expiring Kawhi.

The 2nd isn't enough for the Spurs. I don't see the Spurs valuing Wiggins. Especially, now that he's going to be making north of 25 million. The pick and Jones are decent assets, but not enough to get Kawhi

I don't think the third is enough either. I think they would want more than 2 good assets, a future late pick and some savings.

It's funny that on a Kawhi trade I made yesterday giving up 2 Lottery picks, 3 propsects that are only like half a step down from Ntilikina, more savings for the Spurs plus 2 future 1sts, a high 2nd and 2 potetial pick swaps, you said that wasn't enough for Leonard, but then you offer up these trades. The only trade that you could even argue gives more is the Phoenix trade and that's only if you're really high on Jackson.

14 Apr 2018 16:31:42
The pick belongs to the Bucks because it fell into the protection slot for the Bucks.

14 Apr 2018 16:45:24
PHX doesn't have the Bucks pick. It was protected, and stays with the Bucks this season.

14 Apr 2018 19:38:43
What team does Kawhi want to go to because he is just a rental otherwise can’t see him staying in Phoenix.

14 Apr 2018 20:29:50
Chriss, ulis, Miami first, + either bucks future first, or Miami future first.

13 Apr 2018 18:20:43
The Cavs get Leonard, D.Green, Gasol, and Mills

The 76ers get Love

The Spurs get Bayless(exp), Jr Smith(buyout) , Clarkson, Nance, Osman, TLC, the 8th pick, the 10th pick, the 38th pick, the Cavs 21 and 23 1st with swap options in 20 and 22. Plus they open up 15 million this year and 38 million next year.

The Cavs end up with what they need to have a chance against the Warriors or Houston at the expense of almost all of their young assets.

The 76ers get a veteran allstar with finals experience cheap and gives them more of the shooting they need around their stars. Also, the trade could make Philly really appealing to a free agent like George since this will be their last chance to make a big free agent splash before signing Embiid and closing out a ton for their cap space.

The Spurs get an infusion of young talent while opening up a max contract next summer. The Spurs get to pull off a quick rebuild for Pop's stretch run, while insuring the team will be in great shape even once he retires.

13 Apr 2018 18:37:42
Cavs couldn't get more then a mid 1st for love. No way they get leonard.

13 Apr 2018 18:56:59
I think Sixers want James, but wouldn't be interested in Love all that much, even if it allowed them to ditch Bayless. Saric is pretty good, better shooter, decent rebounder.

13 Apr 2018 19:20:06
Wait, Saric is a better shooter than love? How? Every stat says the opposite.

The Cavs aren’t giving up Love for Leonard. They’re givjng up love, 3 firsts, and two swap options. It’s a horrible deal for Cleveland. it’s worst than what the Nets did with Garnett/ pierce.

13 Apr 2018 19:50:49
Love played in 59 games, Saric played in 78. Love is .415 from 3, Saric is .393. Saric is better, given his age, and games played. Love has never shot this well for a season. Add 20 games to Love, and I'd bet that % goes down.

14 Apr 2018 13:36:02
i think spurs don't get enough in that trade i think spurs don't agree in your trade.

14 Apr 2018 14:03:52
3-4 young prospects. Salary relief. 4 firsts. 1 second. 2 swaps.

And you don’t think it’s enough? Oooooookkkkkk

Dude is injury prone and expiring after playing less than 10 games this year. Just stop.

12 Apr 2018 22:54:52
The Cavs get the 10th Pick, 26th pick and the 39th
Draft Mikal Bridges, Keita Bates-Diop and Hamidoo Diallo

Philly gets the 8th pick
Drafts Young

The Cavs get 2 long wing defenders that can shoot and guard multiple positions.
Then they take a chance on a guy who is just a freak athlete. If he can dedicate himself on defense and either improve his shot, handle or both, he could become an interesting player.

Philly shoots for the stars and drafts Young. I'm not sure anyone in the draft has a higher offensive upside than Young. He's a liability on defense, but they have the players to protect him their. His shooting will help spread the floor for Fultz and Simmons and he's a great passer, so he could lead the 2nd team offense. There are concerns about his his and athleticism, but even if he could just be a Crawford or Williams type guy that comes in and is instant offense for a second unit that would a big get for team that already has a starting unit that looks like it could dominate for years to come.

13 Apr 2018 00:32:22
Or philly could keep the picks and still get young.

13 Apr 2018 07:33:57
I wouldn't deal those 3 picks for 8. And certainly not T. Young with no. 8.

12 Apr 2018 14:06:23
spurs offseason moves

if leonard want to leave and demand a trade if spurs want to have returns for kawhi leonard can be leave in his free agency spurs. if i am gm should trade him i should accept lessen value in returns but much better signing in FA market

lakers receive: kawhi leonard
spurs receives: brandon ingram, loul deng ( buyout or waive ) josh hart or ivica zubac and 2 future lottery draft picks. because of buyout or waive deng contract's spurs open 40.1M in their FA agents + 18 m in deng contract and spurs can sign biggest name like cousins, george, james, paul, but in 40.1m open salary of spurs 19.9M salary are coming in their PO player like green gay and lauvergne, if all of their PO decided to stay they going to open 38.2m to sign biggest names in FA market


76ers receive: kawhi leonard
spurs receives : dario saric, markelle fultz, jerryd bayless (buyout or waive) and 2018 los angeles lakers 1st rd pk lottery protected( from 76ers via lakers) and 2018 2nd rd draft pk

in bayless waive or buyout spurs add 8.8m salary in their of 40.1m and also can sign biggest names in FA market and also murray and fultz can be future spurs backcourt in 2-3 years

celtics receive: kawhi leonard
spurs receives: jaylen brown, marcus morris, semi ojeleye, cash consideration and 2019 memphis grizzlies 1st rd pk top 8 lottery protected

in 5m salary of morris and 4.9m salary of brown and 1.2m of ojeleye in 18.8 contract of leonard spurs have 7.6m free salary and their 40.1m salary in their FA spurs have 47.7m open salary to sign free agents but the 19.9m free agents in 40.1m is coming in PO players green gay and lauvergne

what your thoughts? what team should landed leonard lakers, 76ers and celtics if you have offer in kawhi leonard demand trade comment in my post

12 Apr 2018 14:26:13
Lakers deal is terrible, 76ers deal is plausible, and the numbers don't work in the third.

12 Apr 2018 15:07:11
rkenne_16 why lakers deal is terrible for what reason and 76ers deal is plausible? and why number don't work in the third ok make your own offer from lakers 76ers and celtics to leonard.

12 Apr 2018 16:40:42
Where are the Lakers going to get those two future guaranteed lottery picks to send to San Antonio?

12 Apr 2018 16:54:05
In the trade with the Lakers, the Spurs add over 7 dollars while trading their star. Ingram is a good piece, but not nearly enough on his own to get a top 10 NBA player. Those future 1sts will be late since Leonard will attract atleast one if not 2 other stars this summer. Hart and Zubac have some value, but not a ton. I'm not even sure if one of those future 1sts and Hart gets you out of Deng's contract, but let's assume it does and break it into 2 deals.
Hart and a late 20 2019 1st to get rid of Deng. That leaves Ingram and late 20s 2021 1st for A top 5 player. That would be a worst deal than Irving, George, and Butler got and I would argue Kawhi is far and away the best player of the 4.

The Philly one is plausible. Maybe that's the best offer the Spurs get, but I'd assume they get a little more. It's not a ridiculous trade though.

Kawhi's salary this summer will be just over 20 million and the combine salaries of the Boston players would be about 11 million. Since Boston is over the cap they have to match Salaries within something like 25 percent. They need to add somthing like 6 million dollars in salary here.

Lakers, 76ers or Celtics get Leonard

The Spurs get Deng, Ingram, Kuzma, the Cavs 18 1st and the Lakers 20 1st

The Spurs get Fultz, Saric, the Lakers 18 1st and the Philly 18 1st

The Spurs get Tatum, Brown, Morris, and the Celtics 19 1st.

11 Apr 2018 17:32:59
The Cavs get the Mozgov, Carroll, Aminu, Allen, and the Lakers picks

Philly gets Crabbe, Clarkson and the Brooklyn pick

The Blazers get a Brooklyn 2nd

Brooklyn gets Thompson, Smith(buyout), Korver(buyout), Bayless, Zizic, and Philly's 1st

11 Apr 2018 17:51:12
Why would POR trade 7mil Aminu for a 2nd? His contract is friendly, and it doesn't provide much as far as needed cap room.

11 Apr 2018 18:07:51
Agreed with Jorga. I’m a huge Aminu fan. He’s a fantastic defender, a solid rebounder, a good three point shooter, and is cheap. He’s everything that team needs.

11 Apr 2018 18:32:27
I was trying to figure out a way to fit Leonard in as well and couldn't figure out how without ruining it for the other teams. They clearly need to cut salary unless they're going to let Nurkic walk. I think Nurkic is more important to them than Aminu and Aminu is probably the only contract of any size that's movable without including a 1st.

11 Apr 2018 19:51:03
Aminu's salary isn't going to make much of a difference. It would just add to the losses of Davis, Napier, Connaughton.

11 Apr 2018 21:19:57
Why would cavs do this.

11 Apr 2018 23:16:06
They get 2 big athletic perimeter defenders that can shoot. They save 10 million dollars. They get a good young center in Allen with some size and the only hole it leaves on the roster is at back up pg. at 10 or 11, one of Sexton, Young or Gilgeous Alexander should be available. They end up with a much better defense without losing much of value. Obviously, if they land in the top 3 via the lottery, it changes this a ton.

10 Apr 2018 10:37:10
The Jazz get Brown, Bayless, the Lakers 18 1st, Philly 18 1st, Boston 18 1st and the Grizzlies 19 1st plus they get 30 million in cap

They give up Gobert, Ingles and Crowder

The Celtics get Gobert and Crowder

The Celtics give up Brown, Horford, their 2018 1st and the Grizzlies 2019 1st

The 76ers get Horford and Ingles

The 76ers give up the Bayless, the Lakers 18 and their own 18

The Celtics get the best young defensive center in the league to come in and take their defense from great to down right scary. It gives them the center of their future and leaves them with plenty of assets if they want to make another move. They also get Crowder to fill in for the loss of Brown, now in a bench role.

The Jazz are stuck in Limbo with a team that has no way of making their roster better without trading away either Mitchell or Gobert. Without doing that it seems like they'll fall into that perennial 1st or 2nd round out team that doesn't have the fire power to be better. This starts a minirebuild around Mitchell who looks like he can be the guy on a championship team. He, Brown, the picks and whatever freeagents they can bring in could create a team that in 3 or 4 years are perennial favorites out west.

Philly adds 2 veterans that can help them take the next step. Horford is a great defender, can stretch the floor, can help facilitate second units, can play beside Embiid, can help keep Embiid's minutes down and can be a great fill in guy at center when Embiid misses games. Ingles is a perfect 3 and d guy for the 76ers. He can help alleviate the problems of Simmons and Fultz lack of shooting.

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