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21 Jun 2017 22:51:21
Paul Millsap sign and trade ideas
Kings, Suns, Nuggets interested per report

Millsap, #19 for #10, #34

Millsap for Bender, Knight

Millsap, #19 for Faried, #13

21 Jun 2017 17:33:21
A couple of Suns ideas

1. Bender, Warren, Chandler for DeAndre Jordan

2. Bender and Knight for Millsap(s&t)

21 Jun 2017 18:31:42
Deandre jordan, wes johnson for Bledsoe, Warren, Chandler.

21 Jun 2017 17:26:43
LA Lakers crazy Offseason

•Trade: Lakers-Pacers-Suns-Jazz

-LAKERS get Paul George, #4 pick (via PHO), #52 pick (via PHO), and a 2018 2nd (via IND)
-PACERS get Dante Exum, Jared Dudley, #27 and #28 picks (via LAL), and Miami 2018 1st (via PHO)
-SUNS get #2 pick (via LAL), Luol Deng, and Derrick Favors
-JAZZ get Eric Bledsoe

•Trade: Lakers-Celtics-Knicks

-LAKERS get Avery Bradley
-CELTICS get Kristaps Porzingis
-KNICKS get Julius Randle, #3 pick, Boston 2018 1st, Lakers 2018 1st (or Kings 2019 1st via BOS), and a 2019 2nd (via BOS)

•Draft De'Aaron Fox

•Free Agency:
-Re-sign Nick Young 1yr 13m
-Sign Terrence Jones 1yr 5m

PG: Fox, Clarkson, Nwaba
SG: Bradley, Young
SF: George, Ingram, Brewer
PF: Nance, Jones
C: Lopez, Zubac, Black

Then they still should have cap room for another all star in 2018.

21 Jun 2017 20:18:34
Don't think that the Lakers will be able to get back the #4 pick along with George while giving up the #2 and off loading Deng.

21 Jun 2017 22:30:56
Seems very one sided towards the Lakers for both trades. The first one you get George by and the number 4 pick by giving up your current 3 1st round picks. And in the second one you get Bradley but only give up Randell and Boston looses all of the assets that they have built up over the years, if the Lakers through in some of their own picks I would be less suspect of the trade but I would still rather have Bradley, now especially since we won't be draft in Fultz.

21 Jun 2017 12:31:26

NYK get: 2017 1st DP PHX, Tyson Chandler, Pau Gasol, and Eric Bledsoe
Draft: Jayson Tatum (4) and Malik Monk (8)

pg. Bledsoe
sg. Lee/ Monk
sf. Tatum
pf. Gasol
c. Chandler/ Hernagomez

PHX get: Lamarcus Aldridge and Kristaps Porzingis
Sign: Kyle Lowry

pg. Lowry
sg. Booker
sf. Warren
pf. Aldridge
c. Porzinigs

SAS get: Carmelo Anthony, Brandon Knight, and Joakim Noah
Retire: Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli
Draft: Frank Jackson (29)
Sign: Serge Ibaka

pg. Knight
sg. Green
sf. Leonard
pf. Anthony
c. Ibaka

21 Jun 2017 13:42:39
I'm assuming your a Knicks fan and you'd be happy with that return? Even though they get rid of Melo and Noah I don't think that is enough considering your losing Porzingis.

If I was Phoenix I'd exclude Spurs altogether and give up #4, Bledsoe, Chandler and take back Noah for Porzingis in a heart beat. I'd throw in Knight if you want him too. (I guess you want to get rid of Melo's contract too) .

Don't think it makes sense for Spurs. I can't even imagine Melo in a Spurs uniform or them adding this much salary.

21 Jun 2017 14:08:19
Id rather not lose Porzingis, but i think the return is solid for shedding those contracts.

I'd rather get #4 & Booker, Chandler for Porzingis & Noah but that is unlikely.

21 Jun 2017 17:59:37
Stop ir.

21 Jun 2017 21:07:50
C. Anthony to SAS? . we have to pay more attention.

21 Jun 2017 02:57:22
Cavs get Jordan
Clippers get #4 pick
Suns get love.

21 Jun 2017 06:00:10
I don't think Suns would be interested in Love due to their timeline and that they drafted two pfs in the lottery last year and uncovered a solid player in Alan Williams.

21 Jun 2017 08:15:52
Suns want their pick at #4. Not trading it for Love.

21 Jun 2017 02:35:49
I don't know if this works...

PHX gets Kristap Porzingis and Future 1st rd pick 2019

NY Gets Eric Bledsoe, Brandon Knight and a 2017 2nd rd pick

on the draft night

Suns either draft Fox or Tatum (whoever is available but most probably a pass first guard)

projected line up

PG - Fox/Ulis
SG - Booker
SF - Warren
PF - Porzingis/Chris
C - Bender/Len

then they can trade Chandler, Dudley and Barbosa to a contender for some draft picks

21 Jun 2017 04:39:38
Foolish for the Knicks to do that.

21 Jun 2017 04:58:03
As a Suns fan, I take this deal 8 days a week. but. there is no way at all NY would agree to something like this.

21 Jun 2017 06:08:06
Switch the 2nd rounder to the #4 overall pick and takeout Knicks pick and you may get a conversation. Knicks reportedly were asking for Booker and #4 which I think Suns would be foolish to do. I wouldn't move Booker if I were them but every other player on roster would be in play.

Similarly if I were Knicks I wouldn't be shopping Porzingis and instead trying to build around him.

21 Jun 2017 02:20:21

Cleveland wants Butler and the Suns have been rumored as a good 3rd team fit, so how about this:

Cavs get: Jimmy Butler
Cavs trade: Kevin Love, 2018 1st

Upgrade from Love to Butler, adds perimteter defense and Butler is on contract for two years (as opposed to PG13 for 1 year)

Suns get: Kevin Love
Suns trade: Brandon Knight, TJ Warren, 2018 1st (MIA)

They get some veteran leadership to help Chriss, Bender, Len, and Tatum (whom they draft since they traded Warren) while dumping Knights contract and retaining Bledsoe

Bulls get: Brandon Knight, TJ Warren, 2018 1st (MIA), 2018 1st (CLE)
Bulls trade: Jimmy Butler

This is what I'm unsure of. They get two 1st's next year plus two players under 26 that can help right away. They can draft a center at 16 and have a young core of Knight, Valentine, Warren, Portis, and 16th pick. It's not amazing, but all players that could be good starters. Plus having 3 1st's next year to add to it. But is it enough to justify giving up Butler?

21 Jun 2017 02:31:09
Cavs can't trade the 18. Their first tradable pick is 2031.

21 Jun 2017 02:34:56
Can't trade consecutive 1sts. They have already traded this year and 2019 away. Cavs can't trade a 1st until 2021.

21 Jun 2017 02:44:04
Not enough for Butler, don't think that is even enough for Love although I'm not sure Suns are right team for Love. I'd choose a young team closer to contention such as Nuggets or maybe even the Jazz who have 2 1sts and some young talent Exum and Lyles.

21 Jun 2017 03:11:36
No from Bulls.

If I'm losing a star #4 must be on the deal

TJ Warren is all right but it's a role player at his best
I'm not paying Knight salary. he is not a starter

Bulls want #4 and Chriss or Bender

If PHX gets Love there's not space for both at PF anyway.

21 Jun 2017 06:11:30
That's not enough for two years of butler! That trade would only happen if Brooklyns front office was making the decisions.

21 Jun 2017 08:21:27
Hope Phx doesn't trade for Love. They should keep the pick, they're a young team not too far away from doing something soon!

20 Jun 2017 22:07:28
4 way trade Suns Cavs Bulls Pacers

Cavs receive

Suns receive

Pacers receive
2017 #4 pick from Suns
2021 1st round pick from Cleveland

Bulls Receive
Al Jefferson
2018 first round pick (miami) from suns
2018 2nd round pick (Toronto) from Suns
2019 2nd round pick (LA of Minn, Least fav) from Cleveland
2020 2nd round pick (Portland) from Cleveland

21 Jun 2017 00:39:02
PHX Mgt hears this. laughs a lot. recovers in time to hang up. No way Suns do a deal like this. period.

21 Jun 2017 01:54:50
Irving must be in trade. Love value is declining fast.

21 Jun 2017 02:34:23
Phxfan, it's been reported that they've thought about moving the 4 for Love. It gives them a cheap star that they control for 3 years.

21 Jun 2017 08:27:30
Cheap is right, Love isn't what he used to be! Everyone talks about Bledsoe being injury prone, why not bring up the fact that Love is injury prone, Suns dnt need that and I hope they're not wanting to trade for him!

20 Jun 2017 18:35:13

NYK- Brandon Knight, Dragon Bender, #3 pick (BOS), #4 pick (PHX)
CLE- Carmelo Anthony, Alex Len 2019 NYK 1st (Lottery Protected)
PHX- Kevin Love, Jae Crowder
BOS- Kristaps Porzingis

NYK- Kristaps Porzingis, Carmelo Anthony, 2019 1st
CLE- Kevin Love
PHX- Brandon Knight, Dragon Bender, Alex Len, #4 pick
BOS- Jae Crowder, #3 pick

I don't think anyone loses this trade.

20 Jun 2017 19:44:31
Len can't be trade as he is a FA.

And Phoenix would be stupid to do that trade.

21 Jun 2017 00:48:07
Pho smh. What about the Knicks.

20 Jun 2017 15:09:53

Pacers: Russell, #28 pick, 2018 2nd (via DEN)
Lakers: George, #4
Suns: #2, Deng, 2019 Pacers 2nd

Pacers draft Terrance Ferguson or Donovan Mitchell at 18, Jordan Bell at 28, Frank Mason at 47.

Pacers begin rebuild and hope to land a top pick in 2018 draft to get Micheal Porter or another top prospect.

posted this earlier just fixed it and read that suns are interested as third team.

20 Jun 2017 15:38:58
Not bad, Lakers could then get Fox at 4.

20 Jun 2017 16:56:35
Do you really believe the suns pay 50 million for the difference between Ball and Fox?
I don't!

20 Jun 2017 10:42:47
NYK and Orl

NYK get Vucevic, Payton and the 25th pick
Draft Ferguson

Orl get Noah and 8th pick
Draft Best available forward of either Tatum or Issac and then Smith jr.

Knicks build around Porzingis with a Center whose a good passer and improved defender and add a pg who is pass first and will be like a rondo Boston type. They add Ferguson to develop into a 3-d guy all while getting rid of Noah's contract.

Orl need a couple years to restock talent so landing another top 10 pick jump starts them off, Suns rumoured high on Issac and kings on Fox so let's say for now Tatum falls to 6. Having a core of Smith jr, Tatum and Gordon could be a great restart and 2018 draft is loaded with Bigs so they could grab a Center then and have Biyombo start has his rim protection could complement Tatum and Smith jr scoring. They take on another bad Center contract but when they expire Tatum and smith jr will be due extensions.

20 Jun 2017 02:40:46

Bulls : Bledsoe , #4 pick & Clarkson
draft J.Tatum


Lakers : Butler & #16
draft D.Mitchell


Suns : #2 , #28 & Deng
draft J.Jackson


19 Jun 2017 23:01:58

Suns get #2 pick, Derrick Favors, and Timofey Mozgov

Lakers get #4 pick, Tyson Chandler, and Jazz 2018 1st (top 10 protected)

Jazz get Eric Bledsoe.

20 Jun 2017 02:08:52
Depends how much Hill wants to resign, Bledsoe could potentially be a cheaper option. If I were the Lakers I'd prefer to keep it simple and do Deng and #2 for #4. I don't see Chandler playing at a high level too much longer and Lakers should be aiming to clear cap space for next offseason so they can not only sign George but possibly bring in some assistance that can help fill out the team.

Not biggest fan of it for the Suns. I think they should deal Bledsoe in a separate trade .

19 Jun 2017 21:23:28
Suns rumored to want to move up for Ball

LAL: #4

PHO: #2 & Deng

19 Jun 2017 22:29:47
I think it makes sense for both teams. If Lakers aren't in love with any prospect #4 is a solid place to be since Jackson or Fox would still be available depending on what Celtics do (sounds like Jackson) .

Taking on Deng doesn't hurt a team like the Suns that much but then again the value between #2 and #4 isn't astronomical and cap space does have a lot of value with many teams looking to shed bad deals from last summer.

20 Jun 2017 00:24:19
Allow PHX to send Knight to the Lakers. and it's a deal. So, it's #2 and Deng for #4 and Knight. Lakers still reap about $5m per year in contract values.

20 Jun 2017 01:51:46
Like it. Fox to the Lakers and clear space necessary to sign George next year makes sense.

Suns get Jackson, which is the best fit for them, and have Deng as a veteran presence behind him.

19 Jun 2017 19:41:53

PHX- Gordon Dragic, Kyle O'Quinn, 2019 NYK (Lottery protected)
NYK- Eric Bledsoe, Dragon Bender, Josh McRoberts
MIA- Carmelo Anthony

Sign Gordon Heyward to MAX

C- Hassan Whiteside
PF- Carmelo Anthony
SF- Justice Winslow
SG- Gordon Heyward
PG- Tyler Johnson

19 Jun 2017 21:14:41
Makes no sense for Suns. What are they giving up Bender for? Dragic is older and a worse fit for that team than Bledsoe is. New York is getting way too much back for Melo although I think Miami would be a good fit for him.

19 Jun 2017 22:15:03
HEAT do not want melo.

20 Jun 2017 01:55:08
Niko, Heat would gladly take Melo for the right price (Johnson and a future pick) .

19 Jun 2017 19:03:28
1st trade:
Pacers trade George to Lakers for #2, #28, 2019 1st and Clarkson

2nd trade:
Pacers trade #2 to Suns for #4 and #32 and 2018 Heat 1st (Suns want Ball)

3rd Trade:
Trade Young to Atlanta for #19 and #31 (Need to replace Millsap)

4th Trade: Trade #19, #28, #31, #32, #47 to Orlando for #6 (Orlando is rebuilding and needs picks)

Draft Fox at #4, Isaac at #6, Ferguson at #18
Resign Miles and let Teague walk.

Robinson III/Miles/Niang


19 Jun 2017 21:42:28
I doubt Lakers give up that much for George. I don't think they'll ever include #2 pick but if they did that's all they'd need since I don't see any team outbidding that for a 1 year rental (they could probably add Deng or Mozgov and still get away with it) .

The second trade is alright although if I were the Suns I'd be fine at #4 where I'm guaranteed to get Ball, Jackson or Fox all who could fit well in that team (move Bledsoe for another draft pick in this draft or young asset) .

3rd trade is a little rich for Young since Hawks wouldn't be that good if they lost Millsap and could get a more reasonable replacement with #19 pick that would build them toward the future around Schroeder and THJ.

The Fourth trade I don't think those picks move you all the way up to #6 especially in this deep draft and from a team like Magic who is already young but needs a young player with superstar potential which is much easier found at #6. They already have a bunch of alright young player and adding 5 players to any roster is tough; 2 or 3 of those would have to be stashed overseas which really limits your selection.

19 Jun 2017 15:35:29
3 team trade

Clippers get Paul George, Tyson Chandler

Pacers get Eric Bledsoe, Jamal Crawford, TJ Warren

Suns get Deandre Jordan, Monta Ellis, 1st from LAC 2019.

19 Jun 2017 16:05:21
Not sure why the Clippers would do this if Paul George is leaving to go to the Lakers After Next Season.

19 Jun 2017 17:29:35
why would he leave to the lakers if he is in LA with the Clippers. Not many people have done research. He actually grew up a Clippers fan. The only reason he has been rumored to the lakers is because he is from palmdale in southern california and admires kobe. But again, he grew up a clippers fan, he would stay with them.

19 Jun 2017 13:31:02

ind- bender/ knight/ warren
phx- george

millsap- 25m/ yr
tony allen- 5m/ yr
speights- 3m/ yr
alex len- 7m/ yr
fox and anunoby

line up
PG. fox/ bledsoe/ ulis
SG. booker/ allen/ barbosa
SF. george/ dudley/ jones
PF. millsap/ chriss/ anunoby
C. chandler/ len/ speights

bledsoe at 6man and this line up can be a 5 defensive team that they use in the playoff run

rose-15m/ yr
gay- 15m/ yr
morrow- vet min

ind get danny green
sas gets robinson and 1st rd pick

PG. rose/ knights/ young
SG. green/ ellis/ stepenson
SF. gay/ warren/ morrow
PF. bender/ young/ niang
C. turner/ jefferson/ seraphin

a good starting 5 and a better bench with knights/ ellis/ warren/ young and jefferson


19 Jun 2017 13:45:16
Im a Suns fan but there is no way we are getting George for that!

19 Jun 2017 10:51:23

1. #36 and #50 to Phoenix for #32
2. Trade Okafor and Stauskas for Asik and 2021 1st rounder top 10 protected. (Philly gets rid of two players that IMO are not part of the Process absorbs Asik contract that will be gone by the time Simmons, Saric and Fultz get paid)

Waive Henderson and Long

1. Fultz
32. Swanigan
39. Thornwell
46. Lessort

Sign Reddick 2 year 50 million


Young and uber talented team with Reddick as the veteran leader, around 2020 if everyone stay healthy will be a contender and by 2025 should have a championship.

19 Jun 2017 18:57:21
I don't want asik. I'd rather keep okafor for that junk of a deal.

19 Jun 2017 02:38:52
With George's most recent statement Pacers are big time losers and Lakers are winners. Personally I think Lakers should still consider trading for him for fear a contender acquires him and he loves it and decides to stay but Ingram, #2 pick, Russell are certainly out of the deal now (unless Pacers are willing to take both Deng and Mozgov's contract) .

I also think Lakers should move down in the draft since with George likely coming aboard there is no room for Jackson (who I believe to be the second best prospect) . They should trade with Phoenix at #4 who Jackson would be a very good fit with and at #4 Lakers can still get Fox or Ball.

What other pieces would it take for this trade to happen? I'm sure Phx would be willing to take on Mozgov or Deng's contracts but would that be enough for Lakers? Maybe Suns would take both but give Lakers back Dudley and Chandler or Knight who have decent sized contracts but not as much or as long as Deng and Mozgov and would be easier to move in subsequent deals.

19 Jun 2017 18:38:44
I wish the Pelicans could put together an package that Indiana would accept. While other teams have better assets to offer, the question is would they?

19 Jun 2017 21:26:40
I'm a Pacers fan and i would take Mozgov's and Deng's contract for the 2 pick.

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