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16 Dec 2018 03:00:05
Suns trade Jamal Crawford

Nuggets trade minute morris

15 Dec 2018 22:46:17
If Grizz still want Oubre

Grizz - Oubre
Suns - Carter, Casspi and 2nd

15 Dec 2018 23:18:43
Huge overpay for the Grizz. The 2nd alone is equal value to Oubre.

15 Dec 2018 19:01:21
Magic: Mozgov. Ross, '20 2nd

Suns: Oubre, Anderson

15 Dec 2018 17:08:18
Suns-Oubre, Rivers

Was- Ariza

15 Dec 2018 17:57:40
It's a wash. The Suns definitely were after assets in the D. Brooks, + 2 seconds trade. I think they'd take a HOU offer first.

15 Dec 2018 18:03:08
Done deal. No assets for the Suns. Bad deal.

15 Dec 2018 18:39:46
I guess they could flip oubre still. I can't see oubre signing a 4.5mil qualifying offer next summer with the Suns. A 2nd would be better than nothing, or a longer termed contributing player.

15 Dec 2018 19:17:56
Having rivers for the rest of the season was obviously good move for the Suns too.

15 Dec 2018 20:36:54
I just think it’s funny cause people on here really thought pho was going to get a great return for Ariza. He’s a rental in his thirty’s. I think oubre is a solid return. At this point they might as well wait til draft and/ or free agency to get a PG.

15 Dec 2018 23:11:37
Trading expiring for expiring doesn't seem like much of a return to me? Oubre staying with the Suns is incredibly unlikely. He knows Warren is going to play in front of him.

15 Dec 2018 15:23:53
New variation?

Phoenix trades Ariza; receives Rivers, Yogi Farell and 2 future 2nd rounders

Washington trades Rivers, Oubre and protected 2nd rounder; receives Ariza

Sacramento trade Yogi Farrell and a future 2nd rounder; receives Oubre.

15 Dec 2018 16:12:47
@ Fredman,

New variation?

Phoenix trades Ariza, receives Rivers, and Brogdan and two future 2nd rd picks.

Washington trades Rivers and Oubre and protected 2nd rd pick, receives Ariza

Milwaukee Bucks trade Brogdan and future 2nd rd pick, and receives Oubre


15 Dec 2018 16:29:35
If I was Phoenix or Washington I would jump on that.

As for Milwaukee, not sure Oubre > Brogdon. But it does allow them to start Oubre at the SF and move Middleton back to SG.

15 Dec 2018 16:48:30
@Fredman, Agreed! The Bucks should move Middleton back to SG. At 6'8", He would tower over most SG's. Oubre is only 6'7" But is a more natural SF. Plus Oubre needs more PT, And Middleton needs more shooting and makes. He's been in a pretty bad slump lately, Stating he had a bad finger since game 1?

15 Dec 2018 18:25:29
The Suns were happy with squat apparently. No way oubre or rivers stays in PHX long term.

15 Dec 2018 03:20:48
Three team trade

Ariza to Lakers
KCP and 1st rd pick from Mil (via Phx) to Miami
Dragic and Wagner to Suns

Lakers want a veteran 3 and D player..

Providing another shooting, salary cap relief, and 1st pick for Miami..

Suns get an allstar PG and a youngster Wagner..

Or Minny instead of Miami..
Jones, Tolliver and Bayless going to Suns
Ariza to Lakers
KCP and Wagner to Wolves

15 Dec 2018 03:59:41
Why Goran going back be to Suns?

15 Dec 2018 05:07:01
Suns didn't want to pay him when he was young but now? Lol.

15 Dec 2018 00:01:21
If LAC fade


LAC get KCP exp, Warren & 2nd LAL
- shed Gallo's contract making more room for next year plans

Pg Beverley/Williams/Teodosic
Sg Bradley/KCP/Robinson
Sf Warren/Thornwell
Pf Harris/Scott
Ce Gortat/Harrell/Marjanovic

LAL get Ariza

Pg Ball/Rondo
Sg Ingram/Hart/Mykhailuk
Sf James/Ariza/Lance
Pf Kuzma/Beasley/Wagner
Ce Mcgee/Chandler/Zubac

PHX get SGA & Gallinari
- take Gallo's contract but get a young promising point

Sg Booker
Sf Jackson
Pf Gallinari
Ce Ayton

15 Dec 2018 02:00:12
If the Clippers didn't want to give up SGA for Butler, they aren't giving him up for Warren.

14 Dec 2018 23:40:36

CHI get Ryan Anderson & Josh Jackson

PHX get Jabari Parker, Cam Payne & 2nd round pick

15 Dec 2018 17:33:42
Jackson still has potential.

14 Dec 2018 14:24:46
December 15

Suns Trade Trevor Ariza

Raptors Trade CJ Miles Fred Van Vleet 2019 second round pick (unprotected)

14 Dec 2018 16:42:49
VanVleet has more value than ariza. Raptors say no.

14 Dec 2018 01:57:58
OKc thunder- Terrance Ferguson & Andre Roberson and Abdel Nader trade
Phoenix- send T.J. warren

14 Dec 2018 05:23:29
Okc is stuck with overpaid often injured Roberson.

14 Dec 2018 15:14:33
Shiller, you are literally the biggest hater on here. I see no actual posts from you. You just hate on everyone else and you’re not even correct.

14 Dec 2018 15:16:37
Anyways, I think okc could easily trade Roberson, if Ferguson is included. Ferguson Young upside player and Roberson is “only” paid 10mil a year. Which is a lot but not much for an nba player. He’s also a top notch defender when healthy. Not sure tho if okc even wants to get rid of him.

14 Dec 2018 00:40:44
December 15

Raptors Trade CJ Miles Norman Powell 2019 second round pick (unprotected)

Suns Trade Trevor Ariza

Raptors receive Trevor Ariza

Suns receive CJ Miles Norman Powell 2019 second round pick (unprotected)

14 Dec 2018 05:24:05
Send a pg like Wright or vanvleet.

14 Dec 2018 08:56:59
Norman Powell can play point guard?

14 Dec 2018 00:37:52
Suns get Fultz, Waiters, Muscala

Philly gets Olynyk, Bridges

Heat get Anderson, Melton

14 Dec 2018 03:24:51
Who does this help?

14 Dec 2018 05:24:29
Lol Sixers fan.

14 Dec 2018 15:40:59
Not a Suns fan that's for sure!

14 Dec 2018 00:26:59
December 15

Portland Trade Evan Turner Wade Baldwin IV 2019 first round pick (Top 20 protected)

Suns Trade Trevor Ariza 2019 second round pick (unprotected)

Portland receive Trevor Ariza 2019 second round pick (unprotected)

Suns receive Evan Turner Wade Baldwin IV 2019 first round pick (Top 20 protected)

Salary Match

14 Dec 2018 05:24:59
Good deal if just lottery protected.

14 Dec 2018 15:37:20
I wouldn't trade the pick, or Baldwin. The blazers are out of the playoffs currently, the west is a mad dash and Ariza isn't picking up the wins to justify a 1st or losing Baldwin if the worst case, no playoffs happens. I like Ariza's defense in Portland though @ the SF. If this tucked the blazers under the luxury line too, I think it's real possible.

13 Dec 2018 23:18:53
*Pistons get: Wilson Chandler, Markelle Fultz, 2021 2nd (via DET, from PHI)
PG Smith/Fultz/Calderon
SG Robinson/Galloway/Thomas
SF Bullock/Johnson/Kennard
PF Griffin/Chandler/Leuer
Ce Drummond/Pachulia

*Sixers get: Trevor Ariza, Henry Ellenson, Jawun Evans
PG Simmons/McConnell/Evans
SG Redick/Shamet/Smith
SF Butler/Ariza/Korkmaz
PF Ellenson/Muscala/Bolden
Ce Embiid/Johnson/Patton

*Suns get: Reggie Jackson, 2019 2nd (via CHI, from PHI), 2020 2nd (via BRO, from PHI)
PG Jackson/Okobo/Melton
SG Booker/Crawford/Daniels
SF Bridges/Jackson/King
PF Warren/Anderson/Moreland
Ce Ayton/Holmes/Bender

14 Dec 2018 00:41:16
Suns say no. Jackson is a rental and second usnt enough.

14 Dec 2018 01:49:27
Jackson expires this summer. Suns need more.

13 Dec 2018 20:21:57
Blazers: Ariza, Randolph

Suns: Shumpert, E.Turner

Kings: Anderson, Harkless, '19 POR 1st, '19 swap 2nds w/Suns option.

13 Dec 2018 21:39:41
Finally, one I could kind of agree with. But I think I would still pass if I were Divac so that I would still have a shot at Otto Porter Jr.

Plus, I would be shocked if Portland would ever consider taking ZBo back after the way he left Portland. Maybe with new ownership.

13 Dec 2018 22:20:27
Suns need a pg. Hiw does this help them?

13 Dec 2018 23:34:13
Sums are a lottery team. Shumpert and Turner both play the point.

14 Dec 2018 00:23:12
Kings need a legit starting wing, preferably younger than Ariza. Don’t think kings need more picks, have plenty of young talent, need to use cap space to overpay for a legit player.

14 Dec 2018 00:42:38
Shump and turner are PGs? I thought kings had Fox and Mason. I watch blazers turner doesn't handle the balks as much as 3 guards on roster.

14 Dec 2018 00:45:38
Fredman, you like Porter, you've mentioned it several times. Kings could easily trade for him, why have they not, what opening are they waiting on? Porter is high cash risk, low reward in my opinion. I'd rather have Batum.

14 Dec 2018 01:50:20
Btec- since when? I watch kings and irs masin and fox. Portland guards control the ball.

14 Dec 2018 03:21:03
Turner is the PG of the second unit all the time. Has been, off and on since he was in Portland. Last season they were trying to play him @ 2-3 with Napier getting the back-up PG minutes. This season Turner is the clear PG again of the 2nd unit. Shump has been a PG his entire career until this season, because the kings are playing him at SF because they need one so bad. Or starting 2 SG's with shump as a 2, whatever tickles your fancy.

14 Dec 2018 03:24:22
Hyena, Fredman likes Porter, is that what you have in mind? Expiring deals sometimes net you Jae crowder at the end of the day without giving something up. The kings don't have a 1st this season why wouldn't they want a pick?

14 Dec 2018 22:08:40
I like Porter because his position, age, style of play (plays off the ball) and length of contract fits very well with the Kings current ypung players. Also, i don't believe it will take a lot of assets to land him in a trade. Just have to have the right assets and cap space is huge because it enables to Washington below the luxury tax level. Not many owners are cool with paying a luxury tax for a non-playoff team. If washington is not a playoff team by the trade deadline, you can bet on someone grttong traded.

13 Dec 2018 18:02:22
Suns trade Booker

Dallas trades DSJ and wes matthews.

13 Dec 2018 18:05:59
Hahahaha. okay.

13 Dec 2018 18:08:23
Not a booker fan shiller?

13 Dec 2018 18:41:54
No, he sounds like a Dallas fan.

13 Dec 2018 19:10:24
Suns need young pg. Dsj needs the ball to be affective so does doncic. Booker is expensive, plays no defense and is a junior melo.

13 Dec 2018 19:38:24
DSJ to Utah to play SG next to Mitchell @ point would be interesting.

13 Dec 2018 21:00:58
Btec- exum a first and filler.

14 Dec 2018 03:32:45
Throw in Allen if needed. I like Allen but he needs to play and Utah doesn't have a lot of minutes for him so far.

13 Dec 2018 17:31:11
The Cavs Knight, Houston's 19 1st, and Houston's 21 1st lottery Protected

The Rockets get KCP, Hood, Nwaba and Beasley

The Suns get Burks, Wagner, and a Lakers 2nd

The Lakers get Ariza

13 Dec 2018 17:06:05
Realistic deam Kings trade scenario.

Kings trade ZBo, Yogi Farrell, McLemore, 2 best future 2nd round picks.
Kings receive Otto Porter

Lakers trade KCP, protected 2019 1st rounder
Lakers receive Ariza, 2nd best 2nd rounder from Kings.

Phoenix trades Ariza
Phoenix recives ZBo ($12 mil expiring), Yogi Farrell (cheap playmaking guard) best 2nd rounder from Kings.

Washington trades OPJ
Washington receives KCP (may not veto with playing time at SF), McLemore (expiring $5 mil), Lakers protected 1st rounder.

Trade also moves Washington beneath the Luxury Tax Line and resets the penalty dollar multiplier for next year when Wall's extension kicks in.

14 Dec 2018 00:26:47
Think kings can get this done without giving any picks to take porters contract.

13 Dec 2018 15:38:00
Lakers - Ariza
Pacers - KCP
Suns - Joseph, O'quinn, and Bonga


(Oladipo) KCP


13 Dec 2018 15:22:37
The Suns get Parsons, the 21 and 23 (top 5 and 10 Protected) Memphis first plus a 20 pick swap.

The Griz get Ariza and Warren.

13 Dec 2018 17:09:39
Memphis should pass. Ariza and Warren don't make them better than Golden State. And with Gasol and Conley nearing the end of their careers/ contracts, Memphis will need their 1st round picks to rebuild.

13 Dec 2018 18:02:41
Well the pick swap in 20 probably won’t be anything, the 21 pick could be high, but probably not and the last one won’t convey if Memphis is awful.

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