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22 May 2017 21:55:01
Suns trade if lakers select Fox

Trade Bledsoe
Get Barton Beasley (& pick if needed)

Draft Ball (1- Fultz 2-Fox 3-Jackson)

Ball - Knight
Booker - Beasley
Warren - Barton
Chriss - Dudley
Chandler - Bender

23 May 2017 01:05:19
Even if Lakers don't get Fox the Suns should explore dealing Bledsoe and Nuggets would be a solid destination and they have plenty of interesting assets. Suns should also consider taking Fox at #4 since they already have a solid sf in Warren and its a guard driven league.

22 May 2017 13:12:48
boston: J Butler

Chicago: E Bledsoe+ 1rnd pick 4+ 1rnd pick 2018 Miami+ 1rnd pick Miami 2021+ swap rights 2018


Phoenix: 1st pick Nets (Draft Ball)+ T Zeller

C: Chriss
PF:Bender
SF:Warren
SG: Booker
PG: Ball

22 May 2017 14:22:43
Celtics have enough future assets to get this done without PHX included. besides that, Suns giving up way too much.

22 May 2017 14:50:22
The Celtics are NOT trading the #1 pick for Butler.

22 May 2017 18:14:10
Nobody realize that Bledose is another knee injury away from being D. Rose.

22 May 2017 03:50:32
PHX-NY-LAC

PHX : K.Porzingis + D.Jordan

NY : E.Bledsoe + 4th pick + M.Chriss + A.Rivers

LAC : C.Anthony + K.Oquinn + D.Bender + C.Lee

22 May 2017 16:43:44
That's actually a pretty solid trade. The Knicks will need a huge return in order to move Porzingis, as it doesn't seem like he's forcing his way out of town at this point, but this seems like it's a quality return.

Phoenix gets the biggest return, moving some of their future for a win now model. This would give them a really solid team, especially if they could get a good SF into that starting lineup.

The Clippers would be getting their guy in Melo, I assume to keep Paul in the fold. They also bring in a young gun in Bender, who would immediately become the biggest piece of their future.

21 May 2017 11:42:18
Suns trade 4th pick, 32th pick, Bledsoe, Knight, Bender, Heat 1st round pick 2018
Suns get George, Turner, Ellis

Jazz trade Exum, Burks, 30th pick
Jazz get Bledsoe, 32th pick

Pacers trade George, Turner, Ellis
Pacers get 4th pick, 30th pick, Exum, Bender, Burks, Knight, Heat 1st round pick 2018


Suns:
- sign Lowry to max
Lowry/Ullis/Ellis
Booker/Barbosa/Ellis/JonesJr
George/Warren/Dudley/JonesJr
Chriss/Turner/Warren
Turner/Chandler/Len

Jazz:
- sign Milsap and resign Mack
- resign Hayward
Bledsoe/Mack/Neto
Ingles/Hood/Johnson
Hayward/Johnson/Ingles
Milsap/Favors/Lyles
Goboert/Favors/Diaw/Withey
- with the addition of Milsap and Bledsoe + the new playoff experience, Jazz will be a force and a reason for Hayword to resign

Pacers:
- resign Teague
- 4th pick Jackson or Tatum will be future replacement for George (both top3 talents)
Teague/Knight/Exum
Exum/Burks/Stephenson
#4Jackson_Tatum/Stephenson
Young/Bender/Niang
Jefferson/Seraphin
- Turner is a young talent Pacers could need, but without him as well, they can tank "better", instead develop Bender (4th pick 2016) and Exum (5th pick 2014) and Jackson/Tatum (2017), Knight and Burks also still have room for development

21 May 2017 12:23:31
Not good enough for Pacers if they're including George and Turner.

21 May 2017 15:08:44
Suns say no to this one. ICYMI, they are trying to go with youth and a vet or two. PHX does not want Ellis nor Lowry. Suns would like to get Turner. but George is a no deal. No way he would not sign a long term deal in PHX. There are better deals to be made with Bledsoe and maybe one of those Miami picks.

20 May 2017 00:47:20
sixers offseason

PHI: #4, #5

PHX: #3, Henderson

SAC: Best of LAL/ PHI 2018, #32, #46, #50, #54, Warren, Anderson, Okafor, TWC

PHI draft Tatum, Monk, Jeanne, Bacon

PHX draft Jackson

Sign Ilyasova
Sign Reddick

PG: Simmons/ TJ/ Bayless
SG: Monk/ Reddick/ Stauskas
SF: Tatum/ Covington/ Bacon
PF: Saric/ Ilyasova/ Long
C: Embiid/ Jeanne/ Holmes

(Defense)
PG: Monk
SG: Tatum
SF: Simmons
PF: Saric
C: Embiid

(This does not include the rest of the Suns and Kings offseason)

20 May 2017 07:02:59
Suns moving up and 76ers moving down makes sense since Jackson is a great prospect but not a great fit for 76ers but I'm not sure that offer convinces Kings to part with #5 pick when Fox looks like a great fit for them.

19 May 2017 22:27:01
Magic trade 6th pick, Biyombo, Hezonja, Watson
Magic get 4th pick from Suns, Knight, Okafor

- draft needed SF Tatum with 4th pick, also get former 2nd overall pick Okafor and still young 2-guard Knight. move also gains cap space to have more flexibility!!!
Payton/Augustin/Knight
Fournier/Knight
#4Tatum/Ross/Gordon
Gordon/Okafor
Vucevic/Okafor

Suns trade 4th pick, Knight
Suns get 3rd pick from 76ers, Watson

- draft needed SF Jackson
Bledsoe/Ullis/Watson
Booker/Barbosa/JonesJr
#3Jackson/Warren/Dudley
Chriss/Williams/Bender
Chandler/Len

76ers trade 3rd pick, Okafor
76ers get 6th pick, Biyombo, Hezonja

- draft needed SG Monk
Simmons/McConnell/Bayless
#6Monk/Hezonja/Anderson
Covington/Simmons/Luwawu/Anderson
Saric/Holmes/Long
Embiid/Biyombo
- Simmons needs shooting and athletism around him: add 2 athletic shooter with this down-trade (Monk and Hezonja) and another energizer, defenisve presence in C/PF Biyombo, trust the process

20 May 2017 07:09:10
Suns and Magic are getting too much. 76ers should be able to do much better. Knight doesn't move you up from #4 to #3 and not sure why 76ers would want any part of Biyombo's contract. Generally tho Suns moving up to #3, Magic moving up and 76ers moving down makes sense for the three teams the value just has to make more sense.

19 May 2017 14:43:00
sas-den-phx

sas- bledsoe
den- gasol (s&t) mentor jokic
phx- chandler and sas 2017 1st rd pick

sas gets pg who can score and defense special parker is injudre
den- chandler want to out with the nuggets they get gasol to mentor jokic
phx- gets chandler that can 4 in small ball also they can draft smith jr at 4 pick.

19 May 2017 08:15:57
Sun-sixers trade

Suns gets jahlil okafor and 2 2nd round picks 2017
Sixers get eric bledsoe.

19 May 2017 16:59:21
Eric Bledsoe is a good player but clearly on his way out of the suns. Sixers need to give more though. Maybe okafor and 2 2nds plus a swap in the draft so the suns can draft Jackson instead of settling of the Tatum or monk.

19 May 2017 07:22:21
Eric Bledose is a very solid pg signed reasonably for 2 more years that can play very good defense and be a second scoring option on a playoff team. Phx should shop him for younger talent after he is coming off a good, healthy season (he missed only one game before being benched at end of season to allow Suns to tank)

Which of these Eric Bledsoe trades do you think is most reasonable?

1. Bledsoe + #32 to Bulls for #16
Bledsoe would give Bulls a starting caliber pg on a reasonable contract to pair with Butler and create a defensive duo. Bulls could still sign someone like Galo to be a stretch 4. Phx add a younger piece with pick

2. Bledsoe + Warren for Dallas #9
Dallas makes a move that puts them in playoff contention with strong starting pg as well as a young wing in Warren who can score off the bench. Phx get another lotto pick. Can get Tatum and Smith/ Ntilikina to add to young core

3. Bledsoe + #32 to Denver for #13 pick
A lot of potential moves Nuggets could make for Bledsoe but he'd give them a true starting caliber pg that would be deadly combo with Jokic that could push them into playoffs. Phx get another lotto pick to add young talent that will help in the future.

4. Bledsoe to Detroit for #12, Jackson
Jackson looked bad returning from injury and is due a lot of money. They upgrade at pg while saving money with Bledsoe. Phx takes Jacksons bad deal and gets a lotto pick too. Phx would probably try to make a move for Stanley Johnson too who seems under-utilized.

5. Bledose to Indy for #18 pick
indy already has Teague but he would cost double Bledsoe's salary to resign. The money saved could be used to bring in more help via FA and help Pacers build a more formidable team to make a last stand to keep George.

19 May 2017 10:07:21
I think the Denver deal is the best here and could potentially get them into the playoffs while giving the suns a decent pick in return.

19 May 2017 14:39:08
OK. how about :
Bledsoe, #32 pick this year. and Miami's 2018 1st. to Orlando for #6 and some filler.

19 May 2017 19:48:23
I like the Denver move. It works for both sides, and the value both get are great. I don't know if 16 or 18 are good enough picks for me to move Bledsoe straight up. he's not perfect, but I'm not sure if you're getting someone better than him there, even in this draft.

If I'm Dallas, I have to start thinking about getting some youth in there. Dirk only has a year or two left, and while I'm all about giving him a last hurrah, you also have to think about the future when you can. They need to bring in a kid to build their next generation. The Detroit trade is interesting, as they have plenty of cap space to bring Jackson in to just sit the bench if they wanted.

#12 is a very enticing return for that, but I don't do it just because of how bad he seems to be for the culture of his teams. I don't want a guy like that infecting my young kids.

19 May 2017 04:47:30
POR/PHX

POR acquire Eric Bledsoe , Tyler Ulis , 4th pick & Dragan Bender

draft Jayson Tatum

Pg Bledsoe/Ulis
Sg McCollum/Crabbe
Sf Tatum/Harkless
Pf Vonleh/Aminu
Ce Nurkic/Bender

PHX acquire Damian Lillard & Evan Turner

Pg Lillard/Knight
Sg Booker/Turner
Sf Warren/Dudley
Pf Chriss/
Ce Chandler/Len

19 May 2017 06:28:38
Lillard is going to be 27 by the start of next season. While he is a very good player and likely worth this type of return I don't like Phx trading for him since the rest of their roster is ready to capitalize on that type of talent. I'd prefer to see Phx shop Bledsoe to a team like the Bulls, Pistons, Pacers, Nuggets, Mavs or Pelicans (teams looking to take the next step and could use a reasonably priced starting caliber pg in his prime) for a draft pick and then take Fox or Tatum with the #4 pick and just develop that young core.

Portland needs to make some moves to free up cap space which this does and its a solid return with a starting caliber pg coming back in return but I don't think they need to make this particular move (its hard to replace a player of Lillards caliber) . Portland has 3 1sts in the upcoming draft to try and unload some of those bad contracts and make some additions. I'd love to see them package McCollum and other assets to make a move for Butler. Butler and Lillard would make a devastating backcourt that compliments each other well. Bulls should rebuild and McCollum is a solid core piece to rebuild around (only 25, signed long term, great scorer that would be even better as #1 option, skills to play pg) . Portland would have to add some of its 1sts tho but Chicago has cap space to absorb some of contracts like Crabbe and Leonard (both could be role players on a rebuilding Bulls team and are relatively young) .

17 May 2017 17:19:08
Hornets, Suns, Thunder

Thunder want to clear space for Blake Griffin
Suns don't need Knight and with them slotted to pick Jackson don't need Warren
Hornets need help

Hornets out 7m (lettting Sessions and BRob walk) Marco and Plumlee
Suns out Knight and Warren
Thunder out Kanter

Hornets in Knight, Warren and Kanter
Suns in Plumlee
Thunder in Marco and 7mil savings

Kemba, Knight, Weber
Batum, Lamb, Graham
MKG, Warren, 2nd rd pick Thornwell
Marvin, Frank, #11 Collins or trade
Zeller, Kanter, O'Bryant.

17 May 2017 22:03:46
Awful trade for the Suns. With Chandler making big bucks and Len about to make big bucks they don't need acquire a guy that'll be their 3rd string center and make over 10 mill per year. If Hornets included their draft pick Suns would do this.

17 May 2017 16:56:05
What if the Suns wanted to move up in the draft?

Boston sends the #1, Bradley to the Suns..

Suns send the #4 and Bledsoe to the Celtics..

17 May 2017 17:44:05
Bradley has more value than Bledsoe in my eyes.

17 May 2017 18:15:06
This is true Bmiller, but only for 1 more yr, they are not going to resign Bradley and IT together, they'll only be able to sign one. So getting Bledsoe would give them an extra year of flexibility plus a better scorer than AB and a better distributor. Who knows, maybe this summer Ainge will pull off a better trade than back in 07.

17 May 2017 19:15:01
Personally billj I think the C's would either have Fultz, or use that pick as trade bait for a bigger star.

17 May 2017 21:31:59
No way they are trading out of #1. I think they view Fultz as a "Westbrook" type. An all star for a long time.

17 May 2017 22:30:31
Yumbo. They do not need another Guard!

If they "do" take him, he will be traded by July.

17 May 2017 10:59:19
Phoe
receive 2nd pick+Mozgov, draft Jackons
trade 4rd+Bender

La
receive: 3rd pick and Bender, draft ball
trade:russell+2nd pick+Mozgov+deng

Philly
receive 4rd pick +deng+russell, draft tatum
trade:3rd pick

Phoenix can draft the J Jackson, the player they want.

LA still draft Ball and they clear 34 M capspace.they lose Russell, but bender is still a promissing prospect.

Philly would have a great young core
C: Embiid
PF: Simmons
SF: Deng
SG: Tatum
PG: Russell

17 May 2017 16:32:50
A creative way to rid themselves of the contracts of Mosgov and demg. Sixers would be making out like bandits in this one though.

17 May 2017 22:30:50
Phoenix shouldn't have to take on Mozgovs contract to move up to #2, #4 and Bender (who was #4 pick last year) should be more than enough. Only issue for Lakers is I'm not 100% certain that they'd take Jackson. Ball could make a lot of sense for them since Warren has played solidly at the #3 and Suns could deal Bledsoe to a team like the Knicks for a future 1st.

Personally I don't think it takes that much to move Deng and Mozgov. I think it only takes like a late 1st for each of them. Moving down a slot (potentially losing their man Ball) and downgrading from Russel to Bender (who they don't really need with Randle and Nance; Bender is a ways from being able to play center consistently) I think is too much.

76ers are getting too much. Bad contracts don't hurt bad teams that much and moving down a slot may actually make 76ers decision easier, not to mention they add a top-level prospect in Russell who can play off-ball to Simmons and would make their lineup have ridiculous size and length at every position.

17 May 2017 04:33:28
Suns trade: tyler Ulis Alan Williams

Bulls trade: mirotic jerian grant

17 May 2017 05:40:12
You are either a Bulls fan or someone who knows nothing about the NBA.

16 May 2017 01:21:48
Suns trade Bledsoe, Ullis, 32th pick
Suns get Okafor, 4th pick and 46th pick 76ers

76ers trade Okafor, 4th pick, 39th and 46th pick
76ers get Ullis, Noah, 7th pick Knicks

Knicks trade Noah, 7th pick
Knicks get Bledsoe, 32th pick Suns, 39th 76ers

Suns:
#2Ball/Knight
Booker/Barbosa/JonesJr
#4Jackson_Tatum/Warren/Dudley
Chriss/Warren/Bender
Chandler/Okafor/Len
- draft PG Ball and SF Jackson or Tatum and develop this very talented roster

76ers:
Ullis/McConnell/Bayless
#7Monk/Covington/Anderson/Henderson
Simmons/Covington/Luwawu
Saric/Holmes/#36
Embiid/Noah/Holmes/#50
- draft needed off the ball SG Monk and also add needed experience with Noah whose contract ends with Saric' and Simmons'

Knicks:
Rose/Bledsoe/#32
Bledsoe/Lee/Holiday
Carmelo/Thomas/Kuzminskas
Porzingis/vet FA/#39
Hernanzgomez/O'Quinn/vet FA
- safe some money to sign vet FA at frontcourt (PF & C) and resign Rose to 1y deal
- Knicks must go for do or die because of their rosters' structure, Bledsoe also still 27 years young

16 May 2017 04:41:13
Philly turns that down. Why give up all that and take on Noah just to take a chance on Ullis when the draft is loaded with pgs?

16 May 2017 05:48:53
I don't think Bledsoe has that much trade value. 76ers aren't being compensated enough to trade down and take on Noah's contract. Knicks should just trade melo and use draft pick to get a guard that'll better fit porzingis' timeline.

16 May 2017 07:41:41
From sixers
#4pick >>> #7pick
Okafor >> Ullis
39th and 46th >>>>>>>>>> noah's contract.

13 May 2017 05:46:50
Let's be honest the thunder can't make any huge significantly big moves without going over the cap because they want to reset the clock of going over the cap 4 out of 5 seasons where you have to pay a even bigger penalty for going over the space. , which I mean isn't terrible because they will still have at the very least a little better of a team next year and here's a few things how they can.

Extend Westbrook
Resign Roberson and Gibson
The thunder obviously want to resign Roberson but sign Gibson to trade him later on to get some value from him and stay under the tax.

Trade Kanter and maybe either to the kings for willie Cauley-stein and their 10th or maybe even 6th or 8th round pick where ever they lan and the first second round pick. Or trade kanter tot he celtics if willing for their first round pick, second round pick (37) or last two second round picks and Avery Bradley. The kings trade would most likely happen.

If still don't have a back up after draft or uncertain pg could trade singler for brandon knight this would work bc both cities won't both players off their team and it would cut some cap room from the suns and give the thunder a little bit more cap room but knight would actually play.

After trades find a solid back up either in the draft or free agency and a cheap wing option that could help out team and possibly a center.

13 May 2017 11:47:03
Kanter for the possible first overall pick in the draft?
I'm sure the Celtics will jump on that one as fast as they can.

13 May 2017 12:28:52
You had me until you attempted to trade Kanter for top 10 picks and/ or picking up a superior player in Bradley. Both are just ridiculous.

Kanter has little value. Don't know if you've heard, but during the playoffs Donivan at one point said to an Assistant "we can't play Kanter". That's not good to say the least.

They will be able to move Kanter, there will be teams looking for an offensive big off the bench, but I would a trade like this is much more likely:

To CHI - Kanter

To OKC - MCW (option picked up), future 2nd.

13 May 2017 15:45:22
Kanter and McDermott to the Knicks for Noah and a 2nd.

13 May 2017 01:34:41
The lakers get Anthony

The Suns get Randle

The 76ers get Clarkson and Lee

The Knicks get a 2018 lottery protected 1st from the suns, an 18 and 20 lottery protected 1st from Philly, 21 lottery protected 1st from the lakers, 2 2nds from philly, and a 2nd from the Suns.

The lakers get out from under their 2 bad contracts, clear out Clarkson's contract, don't have to pay Randle, keep the flexibility to trade for another star, and can let Melo go if he doesn't mesh well with said star.

The Suns get a young big man to go with their guards and wings, fairly cheaply.

The 76ers get two players that can help them win now, one's young enough to fit with their core, can play both guards, would fit at point with Simmons who can be the main ball handler, and could make an ideal sixth man if they upgrade at the point

The Knicks get all the ammo they need to start a rebuild and by the time they can use their cap space all of their bad contracts will be coming off the books.

13 May 2017 02:09:04
The knicks also get Deng and Mozgov*. Sorry about that.

13 May 2017 02:36:01
Knicks are not getting 4 1st round picks for Melo.

13 May 2017 02:38:09
I think Philly takes out one of the 1st's and you get yourself a deal.

13 May 2017 03:58:02
No from LA. LA doesn't get rid of their 2 bad contracts. Those are Deng and Mozgov. Clarkson and Randle are on good contracts.

12 May 2017 19:47:36
Pistons Offseason:
Sign:
Kcp 4yr/95 mil
Johnathon Simmons 3yr/45 mil
Nikola Mirotic 2yr/15 mil


Trade:
Reggie Jackson, Tobias Harris and 2017 1st to Suns for Eric Bledsoe,TJ Warren and a 2017 1st

Draft:
1st: De'Aaron Fox
Lineup:
Bledsoe/Smith/ Fox
Kcp/ Simmons/ Johnson
Warren/ Johnson/ Bullock
Morris/ Leur/ Mirotic
Drummond/Boban

12 May 2017 22:13:18
Zero chance Suns do that trade they aren't giving up their potentially #2 pick for that return. I don't think Suns would even do Bledsoe and Warren for Jackson and Harris. Jackson didn't look good returning from injury and is due big bucks.

12 May 2017 22:17:08
Don't think the Sun's are giving up a top 5 pick for that.

12 May 2017 22:20:16
So the suns get a worse pg, a sf making a lot more money for similiar production, and move down most likely 8ish spots in the draft?

13 May 2017 07:46:16
Garbage trade for Suns!

11 May 2017 19:38:31
SAC: T Chandler, #2 pick

PHO: A Tolliver (waive), G Papagiannis, #8, & #10 picks

With Gay opting out and the franchise's history of not being able to sign free agents, Kings need salary on their books. This uses a mid and a late lottery pick to move up and get J Jackson, probably the best wing prospect in the draft this year. They take on Chandler'a contract, but that helps them reach the salary floor with only $49M in contracts.

The top of the draft is loaded with PGs. They already have theirs in Bledsoe unless they want to trade him and take one of the PG prospects. This gives them 2 top 10 picks in a deep draft and a young center prospect they can develop and take a look at.

11 May 2017 21:55:28
I think the Suns would much rather get Jackson themselves to play alongside Bledsoe, Booker, Chriss, Bender, etc. They need to add that second big player alongside Booker. At 8 and 10 they'd have a chance at guys like Markkanen or Monk. but those aren't the guys they need. With no dominant center they might as well take the top guy at the 3. If someone like the 76ers or Lakers wanted to move up a couple of spots. then you'd have plenty of guys to look at. But all the way back to 8 would require a lot more for me.

12 May 2017 02:47:15
100% speculation here. Suns luck out and get #1 pick. Lakers miss out on the top 3.which reverts to the Sixers. PHX trades that number #1 pick and someone like Brandon Knight perhaps to PHILA. for their top 2 picks (#3? #4?) . Sixers can take Fultz, Ball. whoever. Suns can take Jackson and Fox.
Again. purely speculative.

11 May 2017 13:16:52
If Orlando can move up in the draft

Orlando: Bledsoe+Bender

Phoenix: Biyombo+ rnd pick Orl(draft J Jackson)

Phoenix draft Ball or Fulzz with the second pick

C: T Chandler/ Len
PF:Chriss/Biyombo
SF: J Jackson/ Warren
SG: Booker/ Knight/Dudley
PG: Ball/Knight

11 May 2017 13:52:04
If Orl move up I doubt theyed trade as they need a star if they did then lakers don't get their pick which would mean Sixers do and I'd rather trade the 1st pick for the 4th and 5th and draft Tatum and Fox and fill two needs for Orlando better pg and a scoring sf so two star potential players.
Sixers add Fultz to have a big 3 or 4 depending on how Saric and Simmons gel.

11 May 2017 14:01:28
Why would Orlando give up on landing a star for an injury prone Bledsoe and Bender who doesn't seem to be anything more then the prototypical euro Big Man.

11 May 2017 16:00:38
But his name is Dragan. they'd have the market cornered when one of the theme parks inevitably opens a GOT section.

 
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