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10 Oct 2018 21:10:59
List of possible trades that have Dewayne Dedmon at their center.

1) Atlanta sends D. Dedmon, Washington sends Jason Smith (the second player could be ether Thomas Bryant or Jodie Meeks), Washington would also send a lottery protected first (2020 or 2021) or two future second round picks.

Money transfer Atlanta would take 6,828,242 with Bryant or 8,904,500 with Meeks. Washington would take 7,200,000
Pros Atlanta gain assets
Pros Washington gain a much better center could would be the immediate backup center behind Dwight as well as one who can stretch the floor

2) Atlanta sends D. Dedmon, Utah sends Ekpe Udoh and Tabo Sefolosha (you could also swap Sefolosha for Raul Neto or replace ether with a trade exception (Joe Johnson)) Utah would also send two future seconds

Pros Atlanta gains assets
Pros Utah gains a good backup to Gobert

3)Atlanta sends D. Dedmon, New Orleans sends Alex Ajinca as well as a future first round and future second with the first being ether lottery protected or top 10

Atlanta receives 5,285,394 (NOP can add an exception) New Orleans receives 7,200,000
Pros Atlanta gains assets
Pros New Orleans receives and good center they could start if they wanted (but would probably be a good backup)

4) Atlanta sends D. Dedmon, Houston sends Nene with a second being one of three Bruno Caboclo, MCW, or Trade exception, they would also send a future first and second

Pros Atlanta gains assets
Pros Houston gains a good backup behind Capela as well as one who can stretch the floor

5) Atlanta sends D. Dedmon, Portland send Miles Leonard and future first and second

Atlanta receives 10,595,506, Portland receives 7,200,000
Pros Atlanta gains assets
Pros Portland gains a backup center

04 Oct 2018 21:09:22
Thunder and Blazers Trade

Westbrook and Roberson for Lillard and Turner

Straight Up. Roberson and Turner has equal years in terms of Contract and you can extend Lillard to Paul George Level for another 2-3 years and Lillard is a year younger than Russell - I would throw in a pair of 2nd Round Picks to sweeten the deal if Blazers wants to depart Lillard. Lillard and George would be a better and more cohesive duo.

Most of you would not do this trade; and I understand that.

04 Oct 2018 21:31:51
Rather keep Roberson and Westbrook.

04 Oct 2018 21:56:11
Triangle why?

04 Oct 2018 22:20:13
I think both teams would rather keep their current star PG over swapping.

05 Oct 2018 00:56:09
Westbrick for lillard is fair in terms of championships and likely future championships without major 1st tier talent surrounding them. Who puts more person-like clueless fans in seats? Westbrick by far. His worth to a franchise is unique in that respect.

05 Oct 2018 13:03:42
I’d counter with this Btec: Westbrook is hated in Portland. Hated. Lillard would be a much better fan draw for the Blazers than Westbrook.

05 Oct 2018 13:36:34
Shiller, it’s more about Roberson vs. Turner than Westbrook vs. Lillard.

05 Oct 2018 14:45:07
I still like Turner. is he overpaid? Absolutely. But if you use him correctly, he's a solid asset. The problem is, he's not a good fit for either team. He should essentially be the backup point guard, facilitating for the rest of the squad. The Thunder already have Schroder in that role.

05 Oct 2018 16:14:48
Well, that's not a very high moral code for the formerly known as trailblazers fan base. I thought it was about team and not 1 individual?

05 Oct 2018 19:20:40
It certainly is more than one individual, but at the same time, you can't ignore your fans and go against everything they would want. You can't dump a hero around the city for a bitter rival.

Also, the Jailblazer era really hurt the team in the eyes of the fans. Among all of the teams in the NBA, Portland has to be among the most cautious of losing their fan base again.

05 Oct 2018 19:59:49
There is not one good reason to blackball westbrick from Portland. He has no criminal charges, and he gets triple doubles. Would satisfy most blazer fans I know. I can't ever see westbrick for lillard but I think the fans would welcome westbrick if he was around for a while. Portland businesses feed the homeless at a ridiculous rate, I'd imagine they'd embrace westbrick after a season or 2.

26 Sep 2018 19:23:01
Wolves-Blazers

Cj for butler straight up.

26 Sep 2018 19:40:52
Fair trade if butler stays with the blazers long term.

26 Sep 2018 19:55:56
Seems smart for both teams. Minny gets a top 35 player locked in, and Portland takes a chance on a better player with the hopes they can convince him to stay and play with Lillard. If he leaves, then they do a full rebuild.

27 Sep 2018 19:17:09
the downside of losing jimmy while u couldve still had cj under contract is why por won't do this.

26 Sep 2018 07:29:16
Portland get: Butler, Dieng, and Patton.

Wolves get: McCollum, Aminu, and Collins.

Portland has other players too that can make a deal feasible, and perhaps Gibson might want to go with Butler, and if that were the case and a deal could be made for Butler, Dieng, and Gibson, then Portland could possibly unload Turner if they are willing to give up other young players.

Blazers get: Butler, Dieng, and Gibson.

Wolves get: McCollum, Turner, Collins, and Swanigan.

26 Sep 2018 14:31:49
Everyone has done great trading Dieng alongside butler in proposals on here. Until now. This is overvaluing butler and Dieng and undervaluing all of the blazers players.

26 Sep 2018 15:51:39
Portland would definitely want to do the second over the first.

From everything I've heard, Collins is likely untouchable. Olshey is enamored with him. Even if Collins wasn't untouchable, I think Collins and McCollum is too much for Butler. McCollum for Butler straight up is fair value to me considering contracts, no need to throw in Portland's best prospect too.

In the second deal, I could see swapping Collins for Simons or a first since Portland would be unloading a terrible contract too (though they'd be taking back an equally bad one) .

26 Sep 2018 19:56:12
In this particular situation that seems to have varying levels of complication regarding butlers wish list and expiring contract, I think cj for butler straight across is more than fair. Maybe add trent or simons if butler is committed to staying for a couple seasons at least.

27 Sep 2018 00:11:28
I like the 2nd trade, and perhaps Collins can't be dealt (perhaps Meyers Leonard can be substituted in place of him or Swanigan), but even they did they would be somewhat in contention this season, or at least be a lock to make the playoffs in a competitive Western Conference. The main reason for this deal though is for the Blazer to be able to make sure Lillard stays, and if they were to have a good season it's very possible that they can convince Butler to stay as well. Their lineup for the upcoming season with this 2nd trade would be good and solidify more depth up front (which they need at this point) .

Lillard/ Curry/ Baldwin
Butler/ Stauskas/ Trent/ Simons
Harkless/ Layman
Gibson/ Leonard or Swanigan
Nurkic/ Dieng

Teague/ Jones/ Rose
McCollum/ Okogie
Wiggins/ Deng
Aminu/ Tolliver/ Swanigan or Leonard
Towns/ Collins/ Patton.

19 Sep 2018 19:44:20
Portland Minnesota

Portland gets
- Butler

Min gets
-turner
-Collins
-lottery protected 2019 1st

(Money works)

19 Sep 2018 20:03:17
Just for argument sake, throw that in a trade machine and it will result in a +12 game gain for Portland and a -12 game loss for Minnesota. I don’t think that a late first rounder will justify that for Minnesota? Not to mention they’d be stuck with another year of Turner at premium money. Would he even start? Money might work, but I don’t see Minnesota accepting this deal.

19 Sep 2018 21:12:40
In all fairness, the trade machine doesn't factor in potential or contracts. Collins has pretty decent value even if he doesn't have the +wins on the trade machine.

That said, I think both teams pass. I can't see Portland giving up Collins for an expiring contract. And I doubt Minny values Collins enough to make him the centerpiece of the deal.

19 Sep 2018 22:38:10
This is bad for the blazers when butler tells everyone he's interested in signing for other teams in the off season. Turner is absolute garbage but he's a buy out guy next summer and the blazers are better off without surrendering assets to get rid of him for a rental.

19 Sep 2018 22:58:56
Paul George said he would only sign in LA as well. Then he signed in Oklahoma. Sometimes taking a risk is worth it for an all star caliber player.

20 Sep 2018 00:40:42
What does Paul George and indiana's situation over a year ago have in common with butler and wolves? I am drawing no parallel's Please advise? Contract? Current team?, declared coveted cities?, specifically a large market? Not following anything you posted, just see defense of a biased opinion.

22 Sep 2018 01:28:06
No one is going to give up anything for butler besides maybe the clips. The Knicks arleady said they're not going to lose assests for someone they can sign. It's a risk for the blazer but it's better than trending water.

18 Sep 2018 21:41:06
MIN-POR

MIN Receives:
Aminu
Simons
Harkless
Leonard
Blazers 2019 1st Rd Pick (Top 10 Protected)

POR Receives:
Butler
Dieng

19 Sep 2018 19:41:22
As a blazer fan I would love that, but they can probably get more.

18 Sep 2018 17:23:14
4 nba trades, Give thoughts

1. Hawks get Vucevic and Augustin
- Gives Trae Young help on offense
Magic get Lin and Dedmon
- Gives Magic a starting PG and 2 exp deals

2. Pistons get Gordon
- Get much needed perimeter shooting/scoring
Rockets get Johnson and Leuer
- Get a lockdown perimeter defender and stretch 4

3. Bucks get Whiteside
- Gets a rim protector/great rebounder
Heat get Delly and Henson
- Gets true backup PG and backup C

4. Clips get McCollum
- Gets a go to scorer and better chance at getting Kawhi (trade Gallo)
Blazers get Bradley and Harris
- gets defensive backcourt partner for Lillard and much need forward scoring
-

18 Sep 2018 19:33:53
@ NBA16, No team wants Whiteside. He's an overpaid head case on and off the court! I think the Bucks would rather stay with Over paid players in Henson and Dellavedova. Not quite as much of a distraction on and off the court.

19 Sep 2018 00:19:09
I would love to take Whiteside if he came with one of Heat’s SFs (Richardson or Winslow) . The fact that Whiteside is thought to be a headacase only serves to lessen his perceived value. Everyone agrees Whiteside had a down year last year right. He still averaged 14 pts. 11 rebs. And 2.5 Blks. He suffered through several injuries as well. He arguably had a better year than Kevin Love in a down year. Give me this guy any day.

19 Sep 2018 12:53:03
Magic hung up lol.

17 Sep 2018 23:51:06
Nets/Magic

Nets Trade Spencer Dinwiddie

Magic Jerian Grant 2019 first round pick not lottery protected or unprotected

In Free Agency

Re-Sign Spencer Dinwiddie 3 yrs 20 millions with player options

Magic Trade Timofey Mozgov to Wizards for Jason Smith 2019 second round pick

Buyout or Stretch Waive Jason Smith Contract

Renounce right Terrace Ross Nikola Vucevic

Draft RJ Barrett Top 5

Draft Jaylen Hands second round pick

Draft Jontay Porter second round pick

Magic going to have steal from the NBA Draft if they Drafted Them

Magic Trade Evan Fournier to Blazers For Evan Turner 2019 first round pick unprotected

Magic Buyout or Stretch Waive Evan Turner Contract

Magic Trade Johnathan Simmons 2019 first round pick unprotected (POR) to Lakers

Lakers Trade Brandon Ingram to Magic

18 Sep 2018 05:51:30
How do you draft someone without a pick?

10 Sep 2018 09:09:35
Indy: J Butler+ E Turner

Wolves: McCollum+Bogdanovic

Portland: T Gibson+ C Joseph+ T Young+ Sabonis+ 1rnd pick Indy+ 1rnd pick Wolves


Indy get a second star and Turner could be a good sixth man in Indy

The Wolves get a great replacement for Butler.

Portland saves money and they can rebuilt arround D Lillard, receiving the assets to get a second star.

10 Sep 2018 19:23:09
McCollum is worth close to indy's Paul George trade value. Sabonis and late picks aren't good enough and it's a terrible start to a rebuild for the blazers. Lillard is too old to start a rebuild with him as the center piece and it didn't work the first time, so obviously he's good but is not a #1 banana that can lead a team to the promise land without major help, which the blazers didn't provide when they should have. Trade both McCollum and lillard for good draft picks if it's a rebuild. Taj Gibson, joseph, t. young are junk in return.

11 Sep 2018 08:08:38
This saves Portland 7M this year and 38M next year.
The picks can be used to get another good player. (

McCollum and Lillard both are great players, but their defense isn't good enough to get them to the Western finals, so they could trade one of them. I would trade Mccollum and Keep Lilliard.

11 Sep 2018 14:07:51
If their defense is the problem and you would trade 1 then why mccollum? He's the better defender of the 2.

11 Sep 2018 23:17:15
Lillard and McCollum are equal defenders, but Lillard is a faaaaaaaar superior player in every other aspect of the game. That's why you trade McCollum before Lillard.

That said, their defensive issues are overstated. They had a top 10 defense last year with them. The issue isn't those two, it's the rest of the team. To make the west finals, they'd need a top 10-15 player to go with them. You can't make it to the west finals with one all star and one borderline all star. Ask OKC, or SA, or Utah, or NO.

11 Sep 2018 23:17:23
Example: Swap Curry and Thmopson with Lillard and McCollum. GS still wins the west. Portland is still the 3 seed and out in the first or second round.

12 Sep 2018 09:06:00
@ B Miller

This is why i trade McCollum and bad contracts for draft picks
Sabonis is developping well, so he can become the third option.

And they can trade the two draft picks and another bad contract for a star.

12 Sep 2018 18:18:02
McCollum always has the tougher assignment than lillard. True the #'s are the same but McCollum weighs more, has longer arms and for 40 minutes a game has a tougher opponent to defend typically.

09 Sep 2018 00:17:43
Orlando - Blazers

Blazers get:
Vucevic
simmons
Augestin

Go for a playoff run

Ornado get:
Turner
Leonard
Swanigan
19 1st 21 1st

Go for a complete rebuild until contracts expire (nets style rebuild)

08 Sep 2018 08:45:35
Portland Trade Evan Turner 2019 first round pick to Suns

Suns Trade TJ Warren Dragon Bender to Portland


Second Trade

Portland Trade Maurice Harkless Meyers Leonard 2019 first round pick unprotected to Miami

Miami Trade James Johnson to Portland

08 Sep 2018 16:47:37
Where is the second first rounder coming from? Portland only has their own.

Portland gets way too much back in the first trade. In the second, I don’t like giving up an unprotected first to unload those two, probably rather just hold onto both of them, especially since Leonard likely needs to play with Ed Davis gone.

08 Sep 2018 18:14:59
Portland has Cavs first round pick also Bmiller66.

08 Sep 2018 19:55:47
No, they had Cleveland’s pick in 2017.

08 Sep 2018 21:44:01
Ohh what Portland have now?

09 Sep 2018 04:28:22
They have their own firsts moving forward, but don’t have any more.

06 Sep 2018 18:54:52
MIL - POR - ORL

Bucks get McCollum, Leonard, Layman, Baldwin

Blazers get Fournier, Brogdon, Vucevic, Zeller

Magic get Bledsoe, Snell, Maker, future MIL 2nd

Milwaukee get a perfect fit next to Antetokounmpo and Middleton. They try McCollum as starting pg after that with plenty of help from Giannis.

Portland switch McCollum to Fournier and Brogdon, which is close. It gets even with the Leonard/Vucevic swap. Also, Blazers will be at 125 mil after that, which allows them with small moves to avoid the tax.

Orlando trade Vuc for Bledsoe and cover a place in need. Fournier = Snell, Maker, one 2nd so you call it even for them also.

06 Sep 2018 20:14:33
trade won't work. Bucks give up way more salary than they get back. Since they are over the cap, salaries have to match within margin of error.

06 Sep 2018 20:28:45
@warlock It works in the machine with Zeller guaranteed. Bucks get back 39.4 mil and give away 31.8 mil. This will take them to 123.3 mil with 14 contracts. Or better at 120 mil since Teletovic money won't count after November.

07 Sep 2018 13:21:12
Blazers could do way better easily for that package. Bucks homer trade. Even the magic get screwed.

07 Sep 2018 14:27:27
I agree that CJ would be a great fit for the Bucks, but I don't think that's enough for him. He really would be ideal with his three point shooting to make space for Giannis. Right now Middleton is the only consistent shooter.

I'm also trying to keep Maker if I'm them. I know he hasn't been huge yet, but the combination of defense and three point shooting he's capable of bringing is insane. Against the Celtics, if he was open it was going down. He created such a mismatch out there. If he continues to develop, he could become a huge asset.

05 Sep 2018 21:31:53
Suns get George hill

Cavs get Turner

Portland get Chandler

05 Sep 2018 23:10:05
Seems like Cleveland would prefer Chandler's contract over Turner.

I think it makes Portland worse, but they take it in a heartbeat to be away from a bad contract a year earlier.

Make a lot of sense for Phoenix. Get a stopgap PG and make room for their current bigs.

06 Sep 2018 01:10:33
Why would the Cavs take on Turner’s contract for free?

06 Sep 2018 02:06:16
Cavs hard no.

06 Sep 2018 03:49:15
Same reason they over paid to keep love instead of trading him because no one else good as Turner would sign with the Cavs right about now and they have no user for hill. Playin in East it will be easier for Turner. But II Portland owes a first unprotected there going to be tenth seed or higher anyway so protection don't matter not sure when there next pick is open.

06 Sep 2018 04:37:38
9955, if the Cavs are willing to grossly overpay a guy like Turner, they could pull those kind of free agents. Anyone could. He’s not even a starting caliber player and he’s making 18 Million.

06 Sep 2018 06:31:04
The Cavs have no cap to sign anyone better then Turner. They need all the talent they can gett got Portland just getting out of tax.

06 Sep 2018 12:18:36
Uh, they could re-sign Hood, who while he doesn’t play a similar game to Turner would be as much or more valuable if he plays like he did in Utah.

I like Turner, but I am having a hard time understanding why you think the Cavs need to overpay to get him when i’m not sure he’s better than Hill, who also has the added bonus of being on an expiring deal.

06 Sep 2018 17:32:16
Suns are reported as uninterested in Hill is what I read today.

06 Sep 2018 17:45:33
Yeah your right Cavs get a pick from Portland.

28 Aug 2018 01:03:11
CLE/POR/SAC

CLE get Hield, Leonard, Randolph (exp), POR 1st

POR get Love

SAC get Harkless, 2nd CLE, 2nd POR

02 Sep 2018 03:34:57
I'd say not for Portland because of that love contract. Blazers are already salary choked enough.

27 Aug 2018 09:15:28
Cle: McCollum

Portland: J Butler

Minny: Sexton+ JR Smith+ S Dekker+ 1rnd pick Portland 2019 (lottery protected)

02 Sep 2018 03:36:19
No for Portland. Talent equals out I just don't know why you would risk bulter leaving after the year for your second best player.

27 Aug 2018 02:56:51
CLE/MIN/POR

CLE get Myers Leonard, Taj Gibson (exp), Caleb Swanigan & 1st round pick POR 2020 & 2022 protected
- get assets for Love

Pg Sexton/Clarkson
Sg Hill/Smith/Nwaba
Sf Hood/Osman
Pf Gibson/Frye/Swanigan
Ce Thompson/Leonard

MIN get CJ McCollum, Al Farouq Aminu & Kyle Korver
- get a shooter that is younger and a very serviceable big

Pg Teague/Jones
Sg McCollum/Rose/Okogie
Sf Wiggins/Korver
Pf Aminu/Tolliver
Ce Towns/Dieng/Patton

POR get Jimmy Butler & Kevin Love
- try to compete now with 3 all-stars

Pg Lillard/Curry/Simmons
Sg Butler/Baldwin/Stauskas
Sf Harkless/Turner
Pf Love/Layman
Ce Nurkic/Collins

28 Aug 2018 05:02:25
Just give Cleveland Wiggins and a first.

26 Aug 2018 18:44:44
ΜIL - POR - ATL

Bucks get McCollum, Leonard
Blazers get Bazemore, Brogdon, Henson, two future Mil 2nds
Atlanta get Snell, Wilson, Maker

Milwaukee gets the best player in the deal.

Bledsoe/Dellavedova/Duval
McCollum/Brown/DDV
Middleton/Connaughton/Muhammad
Giannis/Ilyasova/Wood
Lopez/Leonard/Zeller

Portland shake it up moving from McCollum to 3 and D Bazemore and Brogdon to back him and Lillard. They also get a solid backup for Nurkic at the expense of Leonard. They save 5.5 mil, which will allow them wih small moves to avoid the tax.

Lillard/Brogdon/Baldwin
Bazemore/Curry/Stauskas
Turner/Harkless/Simons/Trent
Aminu/Swaningan/Layman
Nurkic/Henson/Collins

Atlanta swaps Bazemore basically for two young prospects that fit to their timeline

26 Aug 2018 19:05:57
That’s fairly awful for Portland.

26 Aug 2018 19:19:31
I like it, solid trade all around, feel like Bucks might be giving up a little too much, but definitely a good idea.

26 Aug 2018 23:18:26
Just a fyi. Milwaukee is looking to trade Henson, Dellavedova And a 2nd rd pick to Atlanta for Bazemore. No need to get the Blazers involved.

27 Aug 2018 01:09:55
Really Torque? you wouldn't involve the blazers? you are getting the best player on that deal.

27 Aug 2018 15:41:36
I would rather have Bazemore than McCollum. Bazemore is a SG/ SF 3 and D wing player. McCollum is a PG/ SG. Milwaukee has a slew of them already. Plus, Bazemore would be a better fit next to Giannis A. than McCollum.

27 Aug 2018 17:51:25
Guessing torque doesn't understand basketball from that post. McCollum is an elite shooter. Giannis needs players to spread the floor. How in the world would Bazemore be a better fit? Really, no idea.

27 Aug 2018 19:29:11
Who cares about fit? McCollum is a considerably better player than Bazemore.

It’s like saying “I’d rather have Allan crabbe than Embiid because I really need shooting on my team”. Makes no sense.

27 Aug 2018 20:18:25
I understand Basketball, I don't understand getting another PG/ SG when you have several of them. Plus Bazemore knows Budenholzers system McCollum doesn't, Bazemore is a better defender than McCullom, and is just as efficient from 3 as McCullom is. The Bucks have already picked up shooters, They need 3 and D players! That would be Bazemore, not McCullom.

28 Aug 2018 14:32:25
McCullum is a career 41% 3pt shooter
Bazemore is 36%

Thats average versus elite.

Bazemore primarily plays SG, the same position.

McCullum is better as far as win shares, PER, fg, 3pt fg. he stretches the court as a legit elite threat, not an average shooter.

Bazemore's defense is average.

Makes no sense.

The not understanding basketball is that McCullum goes to the Bucks and is immediately their best shooter.

Lastly, have you looked at the depth chart for the Bucks? So you think they need a sf? Last time I checked, their are set at PF and SF with middleton and giannis. aka, sg would be a great spot for a stud, seeing as brogdon is good, not great.

26 Aug 2018 16:21:01
Wizards and trailblazers
Trailblazers get Beal
Wizards get McCollum

The wizards and trailblazers blazers both always struggle in the playoffs. They both need to change something. This isn't a trade that changes a whole lot it is more just to try something different before trading an all star for a couple of assets or something, because staying how they are both teams are a 1st round exit 2nd if they get lucky. Both are similar players but do bring minor differences in play style and personally. If it doesn't work I doubt either team is in a worse position than they are now.

26 Aug 2018 16:51:19
They are both signed for nearly identical salaries, each for three years. Beal is an inch taller and almost 2 years younger. But age during their respective contracts shouldn't be a factor . Both would be in their prime years for the entire contract (baring injuries of course) . TBH, I'm not 100 % sure how they compare on defense. I think Beal may have the advantage here, sort of tipping the scales in his value. Also, I think Portland's offensive scheme allows McCollum to pad the scoring stats a bit. I think in the end, Wizards say No.

26 Aug 2018 19:26:04
Not sure there could be a more sideways move in the entire NBA, has anyone ever seen them in a room together, because I have my suspicions they are the same guy, Wall and Beal are the Dame and CJ of the East.

25 Aug 2018 17:51:30
Orl-Por

Orlando Receives: Lillard, Turner
Portland Receives: Gordon, Fournier, Augustin, Top 5 Protected 2019 1st rounder (conveys to unprotected 2020)

Orlando gets veteran star at position of need, while taking on Turner's contract

Dame isn't likely to leave Portland (acknowledging that- certainly not for Orlando), but ceiling for Dame and McCullum seems limited. Portland gets better balance with Gordon at the 4 and likely lottery pick next year while filling in with a veteran point guard who doesn't need too many touches.

25 Aug 2018 19:42:01
If you’re not sure Mcollum and Lilliard can work as a tandem, why would you trade Lilliard. It’s not ridiculous to think you could pull off a trade of McCollum similar to what Toronto did with Derozan. At the very least you could shop both and prefer to trade Mcollum unless the offer for Lilliard was over whelming. Fournier is ok, but over paid, Lilliard on his own is going to get a team near the playoffs in the East so the pick won’t be great, and I like Gordon, but he’s not a franchise player. That’s not a package that I think you can build a great team around Mcollum with and less than that you don’t trade Lilliard unless he wants out.

26 Aug 2018 13:21:04
Lilard is a great player, but I don't see him being good enough to turn Orlando into a contender. I think the Magic should sit tight and evaluate their assets before trading the farm for a 2nd tier star.

26 Aug 2018 19:52:16
As a magic fan I hope this happens. Gordon isn't a star and hot way overpaid.

24 Aug 2018 15:06:12
Portland: B Griffin+ Kennard+ Swap option 2019 pick

Detroit: McCollum+ E Turner

24 Aug 2018 15:47:02
I can't see Portland wanting to trade for Griffin unless it's to pair with Lillard and McCollum. Blake and Lillard isn't good enough to make any separation with the rest of the pack in the west. Lillard, McCollum, Griffin, and Nurkic is good enough to most likely get a top 4 seed.

24 Aug 2018 21:23:53
Griffin isn't changing much with McCollum out of the picture for the blazers. This just hurts blazers long term. If griffin made 30 instead of 37 in his final year it would be more palatable. He's overpaid like love is.

25 Aug 2018 16:19:51
Portland saves 7M in this trade.

Griffin had a bad year in Detroit, playing without a pointguard. But he can still be a top 15 player. And Kennard has still potentiall. So Portland has nothing to lose and could do this trade. Same for Detroit, they're going nowhere, so wh why nt try this.

 
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