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17 Aug 2018 08:35:57
1)NY- Portland

Portland: Kanter
NY: E Turner+ 1rnd pick Portland+ swap option 2020 pick

2) NY-LA-NO

NO: T Hardaway
LA: S Hill
NY: Deng+ 1rnd pick LA


NY aims for the 2020 free agent market and get some draft picks.

They can develop the young players and they will propably have a high draft pick with Porzingis out.

17 Aug 2018 13:30:12
I don't see the blazers doing this. They aren't in position to let draft assets go. They could be a lottery team this season.

17 Aug 2018 16:17:58
I do see Portland doing this, even if they end up in the lottery, it’s going to be late in it (12-14). For a team facing the tax this year, and already on pace to pay the repeater next year, getting rid of $17M off the books for 2019-20 and adding a player more likely to help them squeeze into the playoffs now makes this deal reasonable for them.

The concern I have with these deals is that I think the Knicks are looking to strike in the upcoming FA class more than waiting until 2020. I’m not saying they shouldn’t wait, as a Knicks fan I would prefer this route, but the lure of Irving, Butler, Walker or Durant May cause them to aim for next offseason.

17 Aug 2018 16:24:06
Hardaway for Turner 2nd

NY needs a playmaker next to frank, rebounder and better defender

Portland has little to no bench scoring or shooting. your looking at a 18 ppg pure scorer. Harkless and Aminu can play sf.

17 Aug 2018 16:49:50
Blazers don't care about the tax because they aren't so far into it they have to pay tens of millions. Losing a possible lottery pick is way more important to them at this stage of the rebuild than squeaking into the playoffs. Kanter isn't helping them win a playoff bid either. Turner contributes more than kanter would on the blazers roster.

17 Aug 2018 18:05:41
Yeah, I'm not sure how Kanter helps Portland more than Turner. Kanter is the worst defensive center in the NBA. Portland has a solid starting center and a young backup that they love. Kanter wouldn't fit a need at all. Turner on the other hand isn't a great fit, but Portland needs wings and ball handers.

I think Portland would rather hold onto Turner, let the young guys develop, and dump him next offseason when there's more cap space to be used.

16 Aug 2018 02:08:00
Blazers/ Bulls/ Hornets

Blazers get Biyombo from Charlotte/ Portis from the Bulls

Bulls get Evan Turner/ Protected first from Charlotte (lottery)

Hornets get Felicio/ Payne from the Bulls

Blazers get a solid defensive back up 5, young of with potential, 2 areas of need, for basically the same money they are paying Turner

Bulls get a veteran wing that they sorely lack and a future pick, don't really have room for Portis anyway with what they've done this summer

Charlotte gets a couple of useful players? And saves some money.

04 Aug 2018 15:02:36
Something I saw online


CJ and Turner to Cavs.

Cedi, hood, hill and korver and two first to blazers

04 Aug 2018 16:58:00
Did you post it?

04 Aug 2018 18:16:52
Neither Mccollum or Lillard is a guy you build a team around. Both are 2nd option role players no matter what contending team you place them on. It's why I would trade lillard first. Blazers would get the most value per $ and this isn't enough. Derozan and Lillard I estimate as having close to the same value. Lillard for Butler, Taj Gibson, 1st seems about right. Cavs appear to not have a deal like that to give.

05 Aug 2018 02:27:41
Portland Save's money but I think it's going to be ball, Deng and Hart plus two first for Dame by trade deadline.

05 Aug 2018 04:27:12
If the Lakers swing that and Leonard signs then the Lakers would be a true blue contender. It's a decent offer.

08 Aug 2018 05:54:24
Lillard was 4th in mvp voting, allstar, and an all NBA first team, what do you consider a #1 guy?

31 Jul 2018 06:39:08
MIL-POR-ORL

Bucks get McCollum, Leonard
Blazers get Fournier, Augustin, Maker, Mil 1st
Magic get Bledsoe, Snell, Mil 2nd

Bucks get a great fit in McCollum

Blazers replace him with Fournier and add Augustin for needed depth. They also swap Leonard with Maker which will avoid them the tax and get a first

Magic gets equal value, but with Bledsoe exp has better flexibility for next year FA

31 Jul 2018 07:00:54
McCollum has more value.

31 Jul 2018 09:49:20
It's a good return for McCollum

Fournier would be a good fit with Lillard, Maker has potential and the first round pick, gives Portland the flexibility to trade a bad contract and save some money.

31 Jul 2018 14:59:14
This is basically trading an allstar caliber sg, for a good, not great, player in fournier, a guy who has done nothing in maker, and a pick that is likely in the mid 20s. pretty awful return.

31 Jul 2018 15:45:27
How are the Bucks getting McCollum back for that? Are you overvaluing Bledsoe or Maker?

Maker would get lost behind Collins. Fournier is worse than McCollum in basically every way but height.

This makes Portland considerably worse short term, and doesn't help long term.

31 Jul 2018 20:12:10
Fournier can provide similar to McCollum on a cheaper deal and Augustin is a piece that will take some pressure off Lillard. It's a minor downgrade for Portand, but for that they avoid the tax with Leonard - Maker swap and take a 1st. I'm not saying it's ideal, but it's an honest offer.

24 Jul 2018 16:49:40
Since cavs signed Kevin love to extension trade him at deadline

Kevin love to Portland for Caleb swainigan,mo Harkless,Myers Leonard,2019 blazers 1st,2022 2nd,2024 2nd

Kyle krover to sixers for Jaryd bayeless,2x 2019 2nds

Buyout jr smith,George hill

24 Jul 2018 17:07:54
Love with an extension best value is noah. with mental stage, i rather have Noah.

24 Jul 2018 17:20:26
Blazers wouldn't be interested. Harkless is their best SF. I think Philly was trying to move Bayless for 1 2nd with no takers. Deadline fodder, or waive.

24 Jul 2018 23:21:55
Shizzee shouldn’t you get back to your cork board to try to finally figure out what configuration of yarn and pictures will lead to the Knicks dumping all of their bad contracts without giving up anything of value. Noah’s thumbtack and pinhole ridden picture has to be haunting your dreams at this point.

24 Jul 2018 23:24:48
Perfect keep Noah then nobody wants Hardaway so stop trying to trade him.

24 Jul 2018 14:00:47
The Cavs get Turner, Dieng, Gibson(buyout), Collins, the Portland 2019 and 2021 1sts, and the Timberwolves 2021 1st

The Timberwolves get Love, Clarkson, Korver and a Portland 2nd plus save roughly 5 million

The Blazers get Butler and Nance

24 Jul 2018 16:43:19
This is a really bad trade for the blazers. The Cavs make out like bandits while trading Kevin Love. This is pretty lopsided and why we haven't seen guys like parsons deng, noah, turner dealt because they cost their teams more than their bad salaries to trade them away.

24 Jul 2018 17:03:10
Not after his extension lmao.

24 Jul 2018 18:11:01
It might be a little rich, but the Cavs take on 2 bad contracts, Love has value, Nance has value, and Korver has a little value still. You’d want atleast a 1st for Love and probably a little more, atleast a 1st for taking on Turner, possibly a first for taking on dieng, a 1st or a couple 2nds for Nance, a 2nd or 2 for Korver and dealing Clarkson might ding you a little. I don’t think it’s to ridiculous an evaluation of value.

24 Jul 2018 18:55:22
At 30 mil for what love does? Draymond Green now makes half as much and probably won't make as much next season and he's the better player. That blazers first could be lottery next season. It's a blazer front office move though. They have sucked throughout the years. Small windows of good management but that's about it.

23 Jul 2018 18:27:08
A common suggestion but still the one that makes the most sense.

Bucks send: Tony Snell 10.6, Matt Dellavadova 9.6, Eric Bledsoe 15

To

Portland for: CJ McCullom 25.7, and Evan Turner, 17.9.

23 Jul 2018 19:09:02
They can get a better package for McCollum alone plus they are putting in turner. Snell and Dellavadova are both over paid. And Bledsoe is expiring while McCollum still has 3 years on his contract, and they don't need another starting PG unless they plan to trade Lillard. Trailblazers say no for sure.

23 Jul 2018 19:31:07
For the Bucks it makes sense. But how does it help Portland? I guess they save a little money, but they drop out of the playoff hunt completely.

23 Jul 2018 19:48:41
Good trade for bucks. Getting a great shooter with Mccollum and a solid backup wing to Middleton in Turner.
Hate the trade for Portland. Bledsoe is on the downside, Delly is horrible, and Snell is meh.

23 Jul 2018 19:50:13
Bucks declined that deal smh.

23 Jul 2018 20:24:08
I do believe Milwaukee would take that trade.

23 Jul 2018 21:22:11
Terrible for the blazers as Bmiller stated. Lillard for snell, Middleton, Brogdon, divincenzo.

23 Jul 2018 21:41:17
Middleton, like Lillard, Isn't going anywhere.

23 Jul 2018 09:43:51
Spurs: Z-BO+ WC STein

Portland: Shumpert+Koufos

Sacramento: P Gasol+E Turner+ 1rnd pick Spurs+ 1rnd pick Portland+ 2rnd pick Portland 2020+ 2rnd pick spurs 2020

23 Jul 2018 16:42:27
I can't see Portland giving up two picks and increase their cap hit and tax this year, just to get rid of one year of Turner's deal.

23 Jul 2018 16:46:18
Strengthen WC TEAMS to hurts lakers and lebron. Another sad move by cavs fan lmao.

23 Jul 2018 17:06:49
Maybe withoud Koufos, Sacramento can take the extra money.

23 Jul 2018 08:20:39
The Clippers get Mcollum, Turner, Aminu(expiring), simons, the Blazers 19 1st, and 21 1st plus save 5 million

The Blazers get Gallinari, Harris, Williams, and Bradley

23 Jul 2018 09:46:51
Why would the Clippers do this?

The Value is good, but this wouldn't make them a playoff team and this doesn't give them capspace to sign a big free agent.

23 Jul 2018 15:20:59
I feel like the Clippers would do this. There aren't any big cap changes, but they are bringing back the best player in the deal, while getting out of Gallinari's contract. They bring in another inflated contract with Turner, but at least he's able to see the floor, and is very productive if used correctly as he showed in Boston.

On the Portland side, Bradley would fill in nicely next to Lillard, and Harris helps to fill the gap they have at the small forward position. If Gallo ever stays healthy, they would actually have an even starting 5 for the first time in a long while.

Does it put either of these teams over the top? Probably not. But it does put each of them in a better position than they're currently in.

23 Jul 2018 17:11:33
The Clippers get the better part in this deal, but i would for the lottery next year.

23 Jul 2018 18:18:31
Just trade lillard. Dumping turner is great but losing picks, Simons, Aminu, McCollum is a lot of cheddar.

23 Jul 2018 07:29:20
The Bucks get Mcollum, Vucevic, Simmons, and Augustine

The Blazers get Fournier, Middleton, and Snell

The Magic get , Henson, Brogdon, Divincenzo, Turner, Simons, Swannigan, Gasol(buyout), Mills, Paul, Toronto's 2019 1st lottery protected via SA, Portland 2019 1st, Milwaukee's 2021 1st, 2 Spurs 2nds, and Blazers 2nd

The Spurs get Bledsoe(exp), Ross, (exp), and Henson

The Bucks get the perfect pg and C to complement GA. They replace Middleton's defense with Simmons, who was a great defender with the Spurs and get a pg that can shoot off the bench.

The Blazers get to dump Turners contract, they get a side kick in Middleton who complements Dame better, and they strengthen themselves on the wing, which seems like their biggest hole. Snell is a solid young 3 and d guy and Fournier can give them the scoring threat that they hadn't previously had there

The Magic cash in on all of their players of marginal value and take on bad contracts to get a good haul of picks and young players. They also add Brogdon, who is a young heady pg, and Mills, who's a decent veteran pg. both of these guys can help with the development of their young bigs. They can run the offense and get guys the ball in the right spaces.

The Spurs get a solid NBA starting pg, which they were missing the past few years and he may be able to get a little more out of him. He also gets a young talented wing in Ross, who hasn't ever been able to put it all together. Under Pop, he may very well be able to do that and that would be great for the Spurs since they're thin on the wing after letting Slomo walk and the Kawhi trade. Plus they get a shot blocker, which they've been missing since Duncan left. Ross and Bledsoe are both expiring and pop may be able to open up more if there is a chance at a star.

23 Jul 2018 08:04:55
This is so complicated it goes beyond believability. McCollum for Middleton is one thing but adding all the junk takes it out of this world. Lillard should go anyway. McCollum is the better player defensively and offensively. As a PG anyway. Better defensively no matter what position.

23 Jul 2018 14:04:27
I believe the Bucks would pass.

23 Jul 2018 14:08:14
I think middleton is as good as McCollum, or pretty close.

23 Jul 2018 18:45:25
Hi rkeene, Just a fyi. You have Henson going to the Magic AND Spurs?

23 Jul 2018 03:03:53
The Wolves get McCollum and Harkless

The Blazers get Butler, Gibson, and Jones

22 Jul 2018 22:23:03
The Bucks get Mcollum

The Blazers get Snell and Middleton

(Possible 2nd move of the Bucks trading Bledsoe for wing help).

22 Jul 2018 22:28:13
Bledsoe was the savior after he got traded.

22 Jul 2018 22:51:47
s a blazer fan I would do this trade in a second. Middleton is better then CJ. I think he would resign with Portland next summer. Not sure why Bucks would do this trade. Maybe to unload snells contract and fear Middleton mite not resign next summer.

22 Jul 2018 23:09:36
C. j. Is better than lillard, so c. j. And Middleton? Good team.

22 Jul 2018 23:15:23
Really, I think McCollum is significantly better on offense. He can create, finish, pass and he's an elite shooter. He seems like he would be the perfect pg next to a guys like Giannis, Lebron or Simmons. Obviously, Middleton is a much better defender. Maybe I'm under valuing him on offense.

22 Jul 2018 23:46:00
Any article about the Bucks states they plan on keeping Middleton, And resigning him to a Max contract. He and Giannis A. are pretty much untouchable.

23 Jul 2018 03:07:31
I like middleton as the better all around player. Bucks say No.

22 Jul 2018 06:17:03
This is a bit ridiculous, but I wanted to see if Boston fans would think it was worth it

The Celtics get Davis and Harkless

The Trailblazers get Hayward

The Pelicans get Turner, Portlands 2019, 21, and 23 1st, the 2019 Clippers, Kings and Memphis 1sts, the Celtics 20, 22, 24 and 26 1sts (26 lottery protected.

22 Jul 2018 06:26:53
An all star and 7 firsts? That’s just too much cost from Boston.

No one is worth 10 firsts, too much for anyone.

22 Jul 2018 14:57:19
I'm not saying it's fair value for Boston, but at this point, it would take a ridiculous offer to get Davis. Also, that team would be a monster. They can match up with any style. They would be amazing defensively. They'd also be elite on offense and enable to throw out lineups that no one else couldn't contend with.

22 Jul 2018 15:49:03
That’s a lot of 1sts for Portland to give up, and a poop tonne for Boston. That’s Nets’esq, and I don’t see a team making that mistake again, even though Davis is a bunch of times better than what the Nets acquired in that deal with the C’s.

22 Jul 2018 16:23:22
Price is steep for sure, but if you're telling me that I can get AD for 1 player off of my roster (Hayward) and a bunch of picks, I think Ainge would drive Hayward to New Orleans.
I also think that the Pels, say no, very quickly.

22 Jul 2018 16:25:49
Sorry, I meant Ainge would drive Hayward to Portland.

I also think Portland says no, that's way too much to give for Hayward.

22 Jul 2018 18:22:36
Ainge would not drive GH to Portland simply because this traded wouldn't happen.

C's have one spot open and they might not even fill that slot till TD. But if they do it has to be for the likes of Kyle Korver. They'll need someone to come of the bench and knock down 3's at a 40%+ clip to get 6-12 pts quickly.

22 Jul 2018 20:30:39
Of course it wouldn't happen. Portland and New Orleans would say no. I still think Ainge would.

22 Jul 2018 21:00:58
The Clippers pick is propably going to convey in 2 second round picks.

Boston could do this without trading the 2024 pick and a lottery protection on the 2026 pick.

23 Jul 2018 23:12:16
@Joe Realize that you're dealing with Celtics fans. They think every Super Star would be privileged to play for them and every other team should willingly give up their once in a generation Player

They can keep their picks and we will keep AD in NOLA.

22 Jul 2018 00:34:12
So rumor has it Toronto wanys to shed more salary and create cap room for next summer. I would assume to try to add a all star free agent to pair with Leonard. Tor sends Serge,Miles and OG(32 mill) to Portland for Turner, Aminu, and Layman(26Mill). Saves 6mill this year and 16Mill next summer. As a Portland fan I would do it. What do you all think?

22 Jul 2018 13:00:09
Raps wouldn't give up OG for Leonard so they definitely won't do it for that.

21 Jul 2018 21:58:41
Magic Trade Evan Fournier 2019 first round pick (protected) to Bucks

Bucks Trade Kris Middleton to Magic

Magic get better shooting guard & point guard

Magic Trade Terrance Ross(exp) 2019 second round pick to Portland

Portland Trade Seth Curry to Magic

Waive Jerian Grant from Magic

21 Jul 2018 23:34:06
clearly that wouldn't get you middleton.

21 Jul 2018 23:44:01
Evan Fournier is good player he can drop 20 point per games.

22 Jul 2018 00:14:41
He's not nearly as good as Middleton.

22 Jul 2018 00:23:13
Jerian Grant is better than Seth Curry.

22 Jul 2018 00:25:57
Portland just signed Curry for 2.7 Million. Makes no sense for them to trade him for Terrence Ross making 10Mill. And Middleton has more value then Fournier and late 1st rd pick.

22 Jul 2018 02:30:06
Middleton is pretty much untradeable! He and Giannis A. The rest of the team is up for grabs.

22 Jul 2018 10:38:38
Middleton is leaving next year just my opinion.

22 Jul 2018 15:54:39
How do the Blazers, who are WAY over the cap take on $10M while only moving $2.7M out?

22 Jul 2018 16:28:48
Since Parker is gone. Milwaukee can now resign Middleton to a Max contract when the time comes.

22 Jul 2018 17:20:00
This is the same guy that bashed all the Cavs trades right? But he posts crap like this hahaha.

20 Jul 2018 19:48:38
Pistons needs to start from scratch

Pistons trade - Drummond
Bucks trade - Henson Delly Brogdon Maker and 1st round pick 2019

Pistons trade - Griffin
Blazers trade - Turner Leonard
Collins and Simons (pick if nessary)

Bledsoe/Middleton/Giannis/Ilyasova/Drummomd

Lillard/CJ/Harkless/Griffin/Nurkic

20 Jul 2018 20:09:39
I'd pass if I were Detroit. Even if you're blowing it up, Drummond is probably young enough to be apart of it unless you get a ridiculous offer for him. You would need to add atleast a first if not more to get out of Delly and Henson's deals. So you're essentially trading Drummond for Brogdon. Not to mention adding salary since your going to have to resign Brogdon this summer.

20 Jul 2018 20:34:21
I wouldn't give up Collins in any deal for Griffin. Collins has all the makings of an all NBA defender. Griffin is on the decline. It would be nice to unload those bad contracts, but not at the cost of their only two young high ceiling guys.

20 Jul 2018 20:52:58
I believe the Bucks would also pass. Even if they are unloading Hensons and Dellavedova's contracts.

@ rkeene, He did add a 2019 1st rd. pick.


I also agree with Bmiller66, Griffin has been slowing down. Why give up two young players for a player on the downslide?

20 Jul 2018 21:21:32
Yeah that's why I said it's essentially a Brogdon for Drummond swap.

20 Jul 2018 21:32:55
If you swap Collins with swanigan. Then blazers say yes.

20 Jul 2018 22:51:50
There is no way Bucks pass on this deal. It's a steal for them. They get a young all star center to anchor the defense for 8-10 years and rebound better then anyone in the league. And they give up 2 overpaid bench players ( which would need a #1 pick attached to them just to give them away) and 2 marginal prospects? I think the chances of getting a young stud all star crnter to pair with Giannis is a no brainier. Why would bucks say no?

20 Jul 2018 23:24:57
The bucks pass because they're giving up shooting for no shooting and that's not what the bucks are going to do from now on get shooting not give it up.

20 Jul 2018 23:31:01
I don't think Drummond is worth 4 players plus a 1st rd pick. If he was, Other teams would have already offered Detroit the same type of deal.

21 Jul 2018 05:15:53
Torque, what's your obsession with counting players? 2 of the players traded here are garbage. No one wants their comtract and they don't help the team. They could bring in their protection for a quarter of what they're making. You wouldn't trade an entire CBA rosters for Lebron? Durant? Etc? Looking at the number of players going out may be the most ignorant and irrelevant thing possible.

21 Jul 2018 21:27:14
jvung, So you think paying 30 mill a year for the next 3 years for a center, which you claim will anchor the defense for the next 8-10 years? Anchor the defense? Really?

You do realize he has never made an all defensive team, right?
You do realize his entire career he has actually made the team significantly worse defensively when he is on the court versus off, right?
On top of that, you do realize he has always been considered a black whole in that he cant/ won't pass and the offense is limited with him right?

Oh wait, forgot. he made 2 all stars because of a thin center market and he is a great rebounder. and i mean, well. actually there is little else. If that's your thinking, sign Capela to a max contract. he'd be hella cheaper and actually a positive impact on defense. Even though you think a guy who has always been thought of as a defensive liability will anchor their defense for 8-10 years lol. Perhaps Okafor could sign with him and they could have legit the greatest defense in the history of the nba!

LOL defensive anchor, what a riot.

21 Jul 2018 21:37:23
@ letsgoknicks Agreed!

20 Jul 2018 05:24:33
Pels final moves

Trade #1

Pels - Mo Harkless

Blazers - Cheik Diallo, Alexei Ajainca (Waive) Emeka Okefor (Waive)

Pels get much needed wing help and Blazers get under the tax

Trade #2

Pels - Rodney Hood (S&T)

Cavs - Solomon Hill and Future Protected 1st

Sign Greg Monroe to 1 yr deal

Lineup

PG - Payton / Clark / Jackson
SG - Holiday / Moore / Blueitt
SF - Hood / Harkless / Miller
PF - Randle / Mirotic
C - Davis / Monroe.

19 Jul 2018 05:09:12
Blazers get Murray, Gasol, Mills and a unprotected first round pick

Spurs get Dame

19 Jul 2018 05:41:43
I hope this is a joke. Could be the worst trade proposal I have seen on this site.

19 Jul 2018 12:49:46
Murray shows some potential, but he's no Lillard, so whyt would Portland take two bad contracts to get him?

19 Jul 2018 16:29:32
this may not even be reasonable if dame demands a trade and his value tanks.

17 Jul 2018 17:50:11
OKC - POR

OKC- Melo
POR- Evan turner and 13 mill trade exception

OKC does this because they want out of Melo and they actually get something in return for Melo in a quality backup sf that can handle the ball. And on top of that shed 11 mill in cap (not sure how much that turns into in tax relief) . Portland fans have been frustrated with turner and his fit on the team. If there was a time to take a risk this would be the year for it, because of how strong the west will be. Melo would likely work in the blazers iso heavy offense as well. Worst case for blazers they get cap space next year.

17 Jul 2018 18:09:54
Blazers would be in luxury. They are wanting to minimize that I'd guess.

17 Jul 2018 18:11:44
They get a bad contract in return that runs a year longer than Melo. They're better off buying out and stretching Melo. They aren't going to trade him for another big contract. Also the salary doesn't work.

17 Jul 2018 18:33:28
Well here’s my reasoning
1) dame has had those meetings with Paul Allen to pay the luxury bill if the right move comes around.
2) yes Turner has a bad contract, but still 11 mill less than Melo’s. I just figured that OKC is trying to win now and would rather get value in a good bench piece than just buy melo out and with the stretch have to deal with his contract for the next several years.
3) to my knowledge the contracts do work because the blazers have a 13 mill TPE from the Crabbe trade and can go into the luxury of they use it.

16 Jul 2018 04:08:29
I would like to see Portland go after Bobby Portis and possible Denzel Valentine. Maybe Leonard, Swanigan, Layman and 2019 1st for Asik, Valentine and Portis. What do you all think?

16 Jul 2018 06:15:49
Wings are hard to find, layman is playing well. Athletic, hits the 3. That 1st could be a lottery pick and I don't value valentine and Portis quite as much as this deal proposes.

 
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