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21 May 2017 23:56:36
Possible Okafor trades for Philly

1. 76ers-Blazers

76ers get Meyers Leonard and #20 pick

Blazers get Jahlil Okafor, #39 and #50 picks

2. 76ers-Jazz

76ers get Boris Diaw and #24 pick

Jazz get Jahlil Okafor, #39 and #50 picks.

22 May 2017 02:23:35
Which one is better and more realistic?

22 May 2017 16:54:21
I think both would be agreed to by the other teams, but I'm not sure if that's the kind of return that Philly would be looking for. They know they're not getting top 10 picks, but I think they would be looking for a pick in the teens.

22 May 2017 17:18:10
The only issue I see with these is Okagor. He's a backup at either of these new locations. If he's willing to accept that, then he might as well stay in Philly behind embiid.

20 May 2017 16:28:03

76ers get CJ McCollum, Meyers Leonard, and #26 pick (via POR)

Blazers get Jimmy Butler, #39 and #50 picks (via PHI)

Bulls get #3 pick (via PHI), Jahlil Okafor, Justin Anderson, and #20 pick (via POR)

20 May 2017 16:51:04
Love this trade for philly.

20 May 2017 17:54:02
I think the deal works for all teams. McCollum would be a perfect fit for 76ers. He'd be what they hoped Monk would become if they drafted him but is further along and can help 76ers make the playoffs (especially with Bulls dealing Butler and Pacers likely to deal George) .

Butler would be a great fit for Portland alongside Lillard and while they are at it they clear some cap space. They'd still have the #15 pick so they could make some moves or use it to help dump a contract like Crabbe (possibly to the Bulls in this trade) .

Bulls get an alright return on Butler with an heir apparent in Jackson who has superstar potential. They'd probably want some more but I like the outline of the deal and think something beneficial to all three teams could happen there.

20 May 2017 18:53:41
I was thinking the Blazers could trade #15, Evan Turner, and a 2nd rd to Brooklyn for like #27.

20 May 2017 23:22:43
Why so many unbelievables? Does Chicago just need more or what?

21 May 2017 00:09:07
Nba Brooklyn doesn't want to give up picks but they did say they will take a contract for a pick.

21 May 2017 00:51:19
I rather have the 3rd pick (josh jackson) than cj mccollum. i'm not against cj's talent and fit in philly but the timeline is not aline. although he is only mid 20s, we all know that cleaveland and lebron is at his peak. We can see that on celtics vs cavs series. When lbj's game deteriorate, cj also is unrestricted free agent on that time. So i'd rather pay jj reddict a 16-18m range for 3-4yrs then try to sign klay. curry, durant and green will be on max on that time and sixers are relevant and in an upward trijectory going to championship in that process.

21 May 2017 04:08:58
jun_iet23 That's a legitimate argument but you have to factor in the importance for a culture change in Philly. They need to ditch that "trust the process" motto and start winning games. McCollum would help do this and help get those young guys valuable playoff experience and also improve their perception around the league which helps with FA. You also need to factor in that 76ers have plenty of young talent in the pipeline with Lakers pick next year and Kings pick in 2019 and that will provide cheap assistance down the line.

As you state McCollum isn't that old and I doubt he'd walk from 76ers after 3-4 years after he'd likely be a major contributor for them in his ideal role from a bball perspective and they'd probably be pretty good with Embiid and Simmons as well as their draft picks if they keep Lakers and Kings picks. At this time 76ers could also go after a Klay or Green (Durant and Curry are both about to be locked up for 5 years) instead of McCollum if they think they are better fits.

20 May 2017 03:04:04
Sixers - Blazers

Sixers get:

Blazers get:
'18 Lakers 1st (unprotected)
'18 Sixers 1st (Top 3 protected)
Henderson (salary match)

Sixers get perfect compliment to Simmons.

Blazers get a young stretch 4 and secure their future with the picks. Crabbe slides into the starting lineup.

20 May 2017 07:00:35
McCollum would be a great fit on 76ers and value isn't bad but don't think this is the direction Portland should go. They already have 3 1sts in this years draft, Nurkic looked good to close the season and have one of best scoring backcourts in the league. They should be trying to take the next step and not take a step back to get more prospects that will take a few years to develop.

14 May 2017 21:17:17
Magic trade Biyombo
Magic get Davis, 15th pick

Blazers trade McCollum, Harkless, Davis, 15th pick, 20th pick
Blazers get Butler, Biyombo

Bulls trade Butler
Bulls get Okafor, Harkless, 4th pick 76ers, 20th pick Blazers

76ers trade Okafor, 4th pick
76ers get McCollum

- now have 5th, 15th and 25th pick
- let Green and Meeks walk, sign vet FA and keep develop young core (complete starting 5 + Hezonja) = playoff contender within 2 years

- go all-in get All-Star Butler = boost defense big (Butler/Biyombo) while keep elite offense (Butler for McCollum)

- get 2 young starter with Chicago native Okafor and Harkless + 4th and 20th pick to rebuild as fast as possible
- draft best possible prospects with picks except C (4th, 16th, 20th, 38th pick)

- McCollum is the ball-handling 3pt SG Simmons needs at the backcourt
- sign vet FA PF & C
- playoff contender within 1 year, sky's the limit

15 May 2017 02:08:28
I think you should cut the Magic out. The Blazers already have a starting Center, that's an over pay for Biyombo, and the Blazers could use some cap relief.

Then the 76ers should give up one or two more small assets to th Bulls.

That would make the trade a lot more sensible for the Bulls and Blazers.

04 May 2017 22:53:10
Indiana Pacers offseason

-Trade Paul George to Clippers for Blake Griffin (3yr max sign and trade)

-Trade Thad Young, #47 pick, and a future 2nd to Portland for Al-Farouq Aminu, Ed Davis, and #26 pick

18- Luke Kennard (Duke)
26- DJ Wilson (Michigan)

-Waive Lavoy Allen, Rakeem Christmas

•Free Agency:
-Re-sign Jeff Teague 3yr 60m
-Re-sign CJ Miles 2yr 28m

PG: Teague, Kennard, Young
SG: Miles, Ellis, Robinson III
SF: Aminu, Stephenson, Niang
PF: Griffin, Davis, Wilson
C: Turner, Jefferson, Seraphin.

05 May 2017 01:05:01
Why not just sign Blake to help PG.

30 Apr 2017 19:54:36
For sixers fans ... see this

Phila / Alfarouq Aminu - Shabazz Napier - Alan Williams

Portland / TJ McConell - TJ Warren - Richaun Holmes - Shaw Long

Suns / Ed Davis - Robert Covington - Jared Bayless

He does not do anything wrong these changes to the teams ...

Malik Monk is selected on the 4 pick

Gordon Hayward signed (maybe 70 x 3 years)

Phila / Nick Staukas

Spurs / Dwayne Dedmon

How was this equipment?

Ben Simmons / Sergio Rodriguez / Napier
Gerald Henderson / MALIK MONK
Gordon Hayward / Justin Anderson
D. Saric / Al Farouq Aminu / Alan Williams
Joel Embiid / Jahlil Okafor / Dedmon

30 Apr 2017 20:18:55
Not horrible. But just take out that last trade. Stauskas and Dedmon are both free agents and plus Dedmon is now too good to be a 3rd string.

30 Apr 2017 21:25:58
I just don't think Hayward would sign in Phili. Maybe if Embiid had played all season and Phili had won 35-40 games and maybe squeaked into the playoffs, but with the health concerns of Embiid and Simmons, I can't see a free agent signing there without being overpaid.

30 Apr 2017 23:21:23
Well then you put Al Farouq Aminu from Aero to Okafor from AP and Dedmon on the bench as first option to Embiid . Dedmon would be very well if you get it is very athletic defends with much intensity would serve much to the sixers its intensity.

01 May 2017 00:24:28
Why would Suns do this? Giving up two young guys in Williams and Warren for low upside guys who won't help them too much.

01 May 2017 16:06:10
types like Bayless and Ed Davis to help grow young suns and Covington brings points immediately if you choose than indicated in the draft, I think this operation can succeed. ed davis and bayless to help grow a Booker, Marchese Chriss, Derrick Jones, Dragan Bender and Len Alex and have to choose well in the Draft, perhaps a SF as Jayson Tatum - Josh Jackson - Jonathan Isaac.

29 Apr 2017 15:39:26
Say the sixers get the 2nd pick and the lakers pick at 4:

Sixers trade: 4, okafor, 2 seconds, and 2020 unprotected first

Knicks trade: porzingis

Sixers trade: picks 2, stauskas, 2019 first
Blazers trade: McCullum

Sixers lineup next season:
PG: Simmons
SG: McCullum
Sf: Covington
Pf: porzingis
C: embiid
6th: saric

29 Apr 2017 15:47:31
Prolly have to trade the 2nd instead of the 4th bc I'm sure the Knicks would want either Ball, Fultz, or Jackson in return for Porzingis.

29 Apr 2017 15:57:22
Neither knicks nor blazers go for these trades. Value is definitely there for the blazer deal, but i think McCollum is not going to be traded. I don't know the depth of the issues between Porzingis and knick management, but if they can work things out, Porzingis isn't leaving NY.

09 May 2017 07:17:56
Tmwhy would the blazers trade the 2nd best player for a what if.

27 Apr 2017 19:32:03
Atlanta Hawks Offseason Plans
START REBUILDING because this team does not have a future.

Let Hardaway walk. Don't need to overpay another guard (Bazemore was the first) and be stuck in a situation like the Trailblazers.

Trade 1
ATL: Favors and Burks
Utah: Millsap (S&T)

Reasoning: Utah gets an all star 4 that pairs well with Gobert. Millsap returns to his former team. Utah only has the cap space to sign Millsap if it's a sign in trade because they have a lot of salary already on the books for next season. Atlanta gets two often injured players but both are still young and may just need a change of scenery. Favors gets to play in his hometown. Burks can add some offense punch to an offensively deficient team.

Trade 2:
ATL: Ramon Sessions (CHA picks up option), Jeremy Lamb, and 2017 Cha 1st
Cha: Dwight Howard, Wilson Chandler, Jameer Nelson
Den: Nicolas Batum

Reasoning: Atlanta gets a veteran backup pg and a shooter who is from Atlanta. A draft pick also helps their miniature rebuild. Charlotte gets a big who could thrive in the pick and roll with kemba and provides interior defense. Chandler gives them some bench scoring. Nelson is a great veteran pg to solidify a second unit. Denver gets batum whose high basketball IQ, ability to play multiple positions, and length could help a young, defensively challenged team.

Atlanta drafts Zach Collins with Charlotte pick, drafts Terrance Ferguson with own pick, and drafts Jawun Evans with Brooklyn's 2nd round pick.

Atlanta gets two of the youngest players in the draft, who both remain very unknown because of a lack of playing time. Evans could be a very good backup pg in the future.

27 Apr 2017 22:23:44
I had the idea in mind too of a Millsap sign and trade for Favors and Burks. I like that trade.

28 Apr 2017 03:28:18
Noone does sign and trades anymore.

28 Apr 2017 04:08:04
I'm all for the millsap back to Utah idea.

28 Apr 2017 16:43:32
The best part of this. IF it happened. Is that it leaves Atlanta about 20 million under the cap. Enough to go after a decent FA.

27 Apr 2017 07:53:32
BLAZERS: Recommended Upgrades
(Strengthens & deepens all positions, improves defense, decreases salary expenditure by $10-11 million/year, gets rid of a few dead weight under-achievers, and puts Lillard back at his natural 2 position, rather than having him as a "shoot first" (faux) PG)

TRADE: MCCOLLUM $23,962,572
FOR: Paul George (IND) $20,703,384

TRADE: VONLEH 3,505,233
FOR: DAVID LEE (SAS) 2,328,652

TRADE: LEONARD 9,904,494
+ #23 1st Round Pick
FOR: Karl Anthony Townes (MIN)

TRADE: CRABBE $19,332,500
+ NAPIER 2,361,360
+ #20 1st Round Pick
FOR: DRAGIC (MIA) $17,000,450

PICK UP from Free Agency:
Aaron Brooks & Bryn Forbes

PF: Anthony-Townes, AMINU, DAVIS

Pine-shiners: Layman + Rookie

*** If Paul George leaves after one season in order to join the Lakers...hooray - it frees up $20 million to pursue another high quality player.

27 Apr 2017 09:01:53
Yep let's trade a scrub and 1 worthless pick for a 20 year old superstar. That'll do it. Great idea keep them coming.

27 Apr 2017 11:25:03
I think Portland could do better.

27 Apr 2017 12:59:03
VAlid points all around. POrtland is the number one recruiting city in the NBA.

I agree though. Portland may need more in that towns trade. They give up a first!

27 Apr 2017 13:03:10
Portland get screwed indeed :-) :-)

We would trade PG to Portland if they want, but in that case we want Lillard.

27 Apr 2017 13:14:24
I'm sure that the Wolves will pounce on that Townes-for-Leonard proposal before Portland comes to its senses and pulls it off the table.

27 Apr 2017 14:48:58
Wow, I am bummed NOLA got left out. Can we trade Davis for Leonard, or maybe Cousins for Aminu? SMH.

27 Apr 2017 20:09:37
What the heck? Portland got screwed. have to add in Wiggins to make that fair along with Towns.

28 Apr 2017 15:15:02
Good one tombrady. Rather late to the show. But funny that you said he same thing everyone else did. Just 4 days later.


28 Apr 2017 16:11:23
When you trade more for an old Dragic then you do for a young Towns.

26 Apr 2017 22:14:15

Knicks get Allen Crabbe, Al-Farouq Aminu, Doug McDermott, Kyle Singler, and #21 pick (via Thunder)

Thunder get Carmelo Anthony, Kyle O'Quinn, and #26 pick (via Blazers)

Blazers get Enes Kanter, Courtney Lee, and #58 pick (via Knicks)

26 Apr 2017 23:00:15
Pass from Portland. I'd rather pay crabbe than kanter, at least crabbe isn't the worst defender in the NBA. Also, kanter and Nurkic wouldn't work together.

Lee and Aminu is probably a push, though I'd take the defensive guy in Aminu.

27 Apr 2017 01:23:13
I think POR should consider that, Kanter will be their main guy of the bench to back up Nurkic, Courtney Lee can provide a spark off that bench too.

26 Apr 2017 04:53:59

Blazers get #3 pick + D'Angelo Russell + Luol Deng
draft Josh Jackson


Lakers get Damian Lillard + Evan Turner

Randle-Nance Jr

26 Apr 2017 12:52:09
It's not a bad trade idea
But i can't see Portland trading Lillard.

26 Apr 2017 13:24:41
McCollum yes, Lillard no.

26 Apr 2017 14:12:23
I agree Triangle. It was hard enough seeing LA go, but having Lillard shipped out now would be a sign to the fans that they're pretty much giving up and starting over. If they were going to move him, this isn't a terrible framework to work with though.

26 Apr 2017 16:25:56
The 3rd pick, Russell, and having to take on Deng's contract for Lillard? What reason does Portland have to move him?

26 Apr 2017 17:51:38
I can't see Portland wanting another zero guard if they move McCollum or Lillard. They'd want a more true SG or a SF. Maybe change it to Ingram, Randle, and #3.

I don't think Portland has any interest in going younger though, they want to improve, not take a step backward. This makes more sense if it's a 3 way trade that brings Portland a star wing or PF (George, Butler) .

25 Apr 2017 18:44:22

Nets trade Lopez, McDaniels
Nets get Crabbe, Plumlee, 20th pick Blazers, 26th pick Blazers

Hornets trade Plumlee, Lamb, 11th pick, 1st round pick 2019 (top10 protected)
Hornets get Lopez, LaVine

Wolves trade LaVine, Rubio, Dunn, 6th pick
Wolves get Lillard, Aminu

Blazers trade Lillard, Aminu, Crabbe, 20th pick, 26th pick
Blazers get Rubio, Dunn, Lamb, McDaniels, 6th pick Wolves, 11th pick Hornets, 1st round pick 2019 (top10 protected) Hornets

- get their replacment for Lopez with Plumlee + 2 x 1st round picks
- adding needed 3pt shooting with Crabbe

- Hornets goes all-in because they are, there is no flexibity to add more talent(scoring) which is their biggest need, adding very talented LaVine and all-star caliber Lopez will be an immediat boost
- let Sessions and Roberts walk, reisgn Weber and vet FA SG/SF

- let Payne walk, resign Rush & Muhammad, sign vet FA PG
- Wolves get their scoring floor general in Lillard and very useful Aminu to bring the Wolves over the top, Lillard-Wiggins-Towns BIG3 can become a championship contender for years

- very young and talented team, quick rebuild around McCollum/Nurkic and the other talents instead of only Lillard, which seemed to be Blazers' plan, shuffle the cards because stagnation will be Blazers' ending
- getting flexibilty back with trading Lilard's and Crabbe's huge contracts + 6th, 11th & 15th pick in this years draft can lead to a quick turn around

25 Apr 2017 19:30:52
I don't think this really help Portland. Add Turner or Leonard then we'll talk.

25 Apr 2017 20:06:17
This would probably move Portland from an 8 seed into the lottery.

25 Apr 2017 21:12:24
Adding more small guards to a team that is already having problems with size doesn't help. If Portland moved Lillard, its to slide McCollum to PG and get a good SG/ SF.

26 Apr 2017 00:01:34
Great comment supercollider. You literally said this love may move the blazers back 1 spot. Which is I believe 1 game. You add so much to discussions. Literally.

25 Apr 2017 18:15:38
Portland - Indiana - Boston - Philadelphia

Portland trades: CJ McCollum, Meyers Leonard, 2017 Memphis Pick
Portland Receives: 2017 Brooklyn 1st, Jahlil Okafor, Gerald Henderson (waive), tyler Zeller (waive)
Beyond trade: Waive Ezeli, draft Markelle Fultz, draft Jordan Bell, trade Cleveland pick for more salary cap relief

Indiana Trades: Paul George, 2017 own pick
Indiana receives: CJ McCollum, Philadelphia 2017 pick
Beyond Trade: Draft josh Jackson or jayson Tatum

Boston Trades: Avery Bradley, Tyler Zeller, Demetrius Jackson, 2017 Brooklyn 1st
Boston Receives: Paul George

Philadelphia Trades: Jahlil Okafor, Gerald Henderson, 2017 own 1st
Philadelphia Receives: Avery Bradley, Demetrius Jackson, 2017 Ind 1st, 2017 Mem pick
Beyond Trade: Draft more prospects and continue the Process

Post Draft Depth Charts
Lillard, turner, Napier
Fultz, Crabbe
Harkless, Aminu
Vonleh, Davis, Bell
Nurkic, Okafor

Teague, Ellis
McCollum, Robinson lll
Jackson/Tatum, Miles
Young, Allen
Turner, Jefferson, seraphim

Thomas, Rozier
George, Smart
Crowder, Brown
FA signing, another FA signing
Horford, olynyk

Simmons, Bayless, McConnell
Bradley, Luwawu Cabarrot, Stauskas
Covington, Anderson
Saric, Holmes
Embiid, Leonard

Why each team makes these moves?
Portland cuts nearly $30 million from their payroll and get the number 1 overall pick who played at a nearby college. Lillard and Fultz could be the most lethal backcourt in the NBA. They both can score at will and can create for their teammates. Portland also get a local in Jordan bell whose defensive capabilities can make up for nurkic and okafor's defensive woes.

Indiana makes a quick rebuild. McCollum and a top 5 pick is about as good of a return for George they could ask for. They remain a playoff caliber team.

Boston gets the superstar they've been trying for and they get rid of Bradley before they have to face the dilemma of resigning him for a lot of money or letting him go for nothing.

Philadelphia gets an excellent two way SG in Bradley who pairs well with Simmons. They get rid of Okafor, who they have no room for anymore with their plethora of quality big men. They do give up a high pick but they get two middle of the pack 1st round draft picks in which they can stockpile even more talent. And who knows they might still get a top 5 pick if the lakers pick falls to them.

25 Apr 2017 20:10:03
No Paul George trade makes sense unless the acquiring team has an assurance that he will sign long-term. In this instance, Boston is not going to trade a starter and the potential No. 1 pick if there is even a chance that George bolts to the Lakers after next season.

26 Apr 2017 00:30:45
If Boston does that need a future 1st rd. coming back to them, not just George. Supercollider is right that's a bit much for a rental. And whoever disagreed is only doing it for obvious reasons, that's just how this blog rolls.

25 Apr 2017 09:32:01
I think Portland should look into splitting the guard combo of lillard & mccollom combo to take the next step!

So my ideas are
Trade McCollum for jabari Parker + 1st

McCollum for Dario Saric + 1st

McCollum + vonleh + 1st for j butler + 2nd

25 Apr 2017 15:39:57
I wouldn't touch Parker, that's not something I'd ever consider.

Saric and a top 5 pick is good value, I just don't think Portland would be interested in rebuilding around a top 5 pick.

Butler would be a great fit with Lillard.

Perhaps a mixture of the last two:

Phili gets McCollum
Chicago gets picks #4 and #15, and one of crabbe/ harkless, and Leonard
Portland gets Butler and Saric.

25 Apr 2017 18:05:17
Butler would be the dream and I think with 3 1sts in this years draft Portland may have the ammunition if he is available. Bulls would also be a place they could potential dump young guys with bad contracts like Crabbe, Harkless or Leonard to get Portland out of luxury (a rebuilding Bulls team could use the talent since Crabbe and Harkless would probably start for them without Butler and they wouldn't need as much cap space) . Although with Bulls and Butler's performance thus far in playoffs he may not be available.

Not too keen of the other moves. Parker presents unnecessary risk and similar to McCollum outside of scoring he doesn't contribute much (Parker isn't a special rebounder for his size/ position) . Saric and 1st isn't awful as they could get Monk with that pick who projects to be a similar type of player however, it feels like an unnecessary step back for a promising team that should be trying to move forward.

Bmiller66's idea of combining two is interesting too. McCollum would be a perfect fit in 76ers as he gives them a go-to scorer who can light it up from outside and play off-ball with Simmons while having skills to run pg at times and is young enough to fit that team. I think the offer to Chicago would have to be bolstered a bit (maybe Saric goes there) and if they wanted to dump contracts which would be wise, Portland would likely have to add its other two 1sts. Bulls may prefer to just get McCollum and a 1st (or other pieces) themselves since McCollum is young enough to build around, signed long term and I think his game would rise to another level being able to be #1 offensive option and having ball in his hand more (he also could make a pretty good point guard) .

It doesn't necessarily have to be moving McCollum but I think Portland has to make a move with their 3 1sts. Getting Butler one of the best-two players in the league and clearing up cap space by moving two guys like Crabbe and Leonard I think would be a strong offseason.

23 Apr 2017 15:50:02


Sixers get:McCollum
Blazers get: #3 overall pick

If sixers get picks 3 and 4(all that needs to happen is the draft order flip flops 3 and 4, sixers get both). Blazers shed a huge contract amd get a top 3 pick(Josh Jackson maybe?) in a loaded draft they cam secure for 4 or 5 years at a low cost. Lillard and McCollum may be fun to watch, but that combo isn't going to win you any playoff series. I think portland may package their other 3 first rounders to move up and get another top 10 pick or future first rounders to spread the picks out over a few years. Maybe sixers take back another contract from blazers for salary relief. Sixers get a perfect compliment to simmons.

Trade 2:
Sixers get:picks 8 and 10
Kings get:pick 4,36,and 39

Sixers take Markannen at 8 and Ntilikna at 10

Sixers sign pateick patterson as backup pf

C: Embiid,Holmes,Okafor

Still have all own picks, 2019 kings unprotected #1, 2020 OKCs protected #1, a bizillion second rounders, and 19 year old sg Korkmaz in Europe.

23 Apr 2017 16:10:33
The 2nd trade seems reasonable, but Mccollum is worth more than the third pick. Why would Portland give up a young player who is a borderline allstar for a player who might not pan out.

23 Apr 2017 18:33:21
Rrkenne16.using that logic an established player would never be traded for a top lottery pick. It happens for team fit, salary, potential and player control reasons to name a few. I also added that philly may need to take back a contract to entice portland to do the deal.

23 Apr 2017 19:11:22
Young stars rarely get moved unless they won't resign. Mccollum is locked up long term. Cj put up 23 on 48 percent from the field. You make him fit, because it's going to be next to impossible to replace that kind of production. He's 24, been in the league for only 4 years, and has improved a ton the past two years. They have 3 mid to late first round picks this year if they want to clear capspace and multiple large contracts they could move. They are a young playoff team. They are more likely to try and add a star player rather than move one for a pick. Unless they are getting a guaranteed star in return or a huge package of young players and picks there is no reason to move him.

24 Apr 2017 00:18:07
I don't think the value is terrible but it doesn't make sense for a young team on the rise to trade an proven young player like McCollum for a draft pick who could end up a complete bust. They do have salary issues but those can be solved without having to deal McCollum.

23 Apr 2017 08:47:05
Melo trade

Portland - New York

New York
Melo and Plumee

Crabbe and Leonard

Salaries matchup on the ESPN trade machine would be a smart trade for both teams.

23 Apr 2017 11:07:54
If the Knicks could talk the Blazers into that deal, they would cancel next year's voting, make Phil Jackson the executive of the year and name the award after him.

23 Apr 2017 14:11:05
I like it for Portland. It's low risk and at worst they end up with an expiring contract. I don't think Melo would be a great fit, but they really aren't making much of a commitment.

It's not great for New York, but they end up with 2 young players that can help in a rebuild.

23 Apr 2017 15:48:59
That sounds about right coming from supercollider. Let me guess. You think crabbe does more than melo. Not based off reality, but based on your unknown source of irrational hate for him. So sad.

24 Apr 2017 13:46:58
I like this trade, but Portland should also give a protected first round pick.

24 Apr 2017 15:03:13
I actually like this one. It makes Portland a little more balanced instead of essentially a backcourt team, and it brings back something of value to the Knicks. Crabbe isn't amazing, but he's a good player, and that's pretty much what you have to hope for if you're the Knicks.

26 Apr 2017 01:10:48
Knicks and up with 1 solid young player. Meyers Leonard is not a contributor.

23 Apr 2017 00:22:22
76ers - Blazers - Pistons
(If 76ers land #3 and #4 pick in lottery)

76ers get CJ McCollum and Meyers Leonard

Blazers get Tobias Harris, Boban Marjanovic, #4 pick, rights to Furkan Korkmaz, and a future 1st (via 76ers)

Pistons get Al-Farouq Aminu, Jahlil Okafor, #26 pick (via Blazers), 2017 2nd, and a future 2nd (via 76ers)

23 Apr 2017 00:33:01
Philly should take Turner or Crabbe's contract too for convincing Portland

I don't think Drummond) Okafor would be a good combo.

23 Apr 2017 02:05:43
That's why Okafor would be his backup off the bench.

23 Apr 2017 09:00:31
Harris was one of Detroit best players this year why would they trade him? He has a team friendly contract, he would be a better trade asset next year at the deadline. And that's if Detroit can't get back on track next year. Plus Aaron Baynes will probably leave in F/ A so why would they bojan bogdanovic. Also Okafor doesn't fit SVG system?

23 Apr 2017 14:10:30
Okay then what if Okafor goes to Portland and Marjanovic stays with Detroit?

22 Apr 2017 23:18:49
Knicks/ Cavs/ Blazers:

To CLE - Melo, O'Quinn

To POR - Love

To NYK - Turner, Harkless, Frye.

22 Apr 2017 23:50:24
Horrible for the Cavs. They wouldn't do Love for O'Quinn and Melo straight up let alone adding a rotation player. Also, how does Portland end up getting love and getting out of Turner's bad contract?

23 Apr 2017 02:34:20
It's not whether Love is better than both Melo (which he's not) and O'Quinn or not. If the Cavs don't win it again this year, and in fact lose badly, LeBron the GM is going to insist on change. He'll want a buddy or buddies, and Melo is the one that is available currently. Love is the one of the big three to go if/ when LBJ puts his foot down. Don't kid yourself, Love would have been gone last offseason if the Cavs had not have made the comeback, and it most likely would have been for Melo.

I agree that the Blazers are getting rid of a bad contract in Turner, but it's only bad based on the fit. In New York, he could go back to a similar role that he had in Boston, a facilitator, which suits him best. He hasn't worked in Portland because he plays with two ball dominant guards. It would be reasonable to expect him to put up a 12, 5 and 5 stat line with the Knicks, and the five dimes a game would be more than any other Knick put up this year.

23 Apr 2017 05:19:39
If Lebron was concerned with hanging out with his friends, he'd still be in Miami. Love is hands down better than Melo. Love is a better rebounder, better passer, a more efficient scorer ( he average 19 on 14.5 shots a game compared to 22 on 19 shots for Melo this year), better defensively, and younger. Melo's weakness match the Cavs weakeness. Love isn't getting moved in a trade where Melo is the main piece. Losing Love and Frye would take away any players who can play center for long periods and shoot. This trade makes 0 sense for the Cavs. That doesn't even take into account that the Cavs would be over paying by a lot for Melo and Turner and Harkless for Love would be the steal for Portland. That's two borderline starters including a guy being over payed by 8 million dollars for an allstar.

23 Apr 2017 16:03:29
Actually, again rkenne. posting but not really making sense.

You want to break down efficient scoring simply on shots vs pts? Ok? First, Melo has always, including this year, shot at a higher FG% than love. Secondly, Love is the 3rd option, who hangs at the 3pt line. that's what he does. A tad bit easier to score that way than the 1st option who is constantly doubled. But I guess you didn't take that into account.

Love is a better passer? Seriously? Dude averages for his career 2 assists a game. Under 2 assists this year per game. Better passer? Guy doesn't pass. He gets the ball and just puts up a jump shot. that's his offensive game.

Better defensively? 6'10 and gets less than half a block a game. Seriously? No one is saying melo is good defensively. But where the heck to you come up with an argument that Love is any less bad?

Kevin love is a better rebounder. he's a 3rd option jump shooter on a loaded team. He has a far less diverse offensive game. Equally bad defensively. A worse passer. I fully believe he is great for his role, but to try and make the argument that love is so clearly better is foolish.

Oh. and melo plays more of the season by about 5-6 games a year. So clearly that youth thing matters.

Get off it. you and supercollider are on some baseless melo hate trip. Dude ain't a top 5. But to consider him worthless, or actually as you two make it seem, negative worth, is moronic. He will be traded, and he will pull in decent but not amazing. My guess. 3 options

1) sign and trade with the clippers for griffin.
2) trade with cavs for love
3) celtics trade centered around crowder.

All depends on the playoffs, but just stop it. your constant hate is making you both look moronic.

23 Apr 2017 19:35:52
Hamburger look up any defensive metric and you'll see that Love is far ahead of Melo. Melo has his hands on the ball far more often than Love and handles the ball more. Of course he averages more assists that doesn't mean he's a better passer, it means he has more opportunities to pass. The Cavs don't need a third guy who is most effective with the ball in his hands. Crowder may be possible (even though Ainge apparently said he didn't want Melo taking up all of their cap room), but they're not getting Love and why would Griffin opt in to be traded to the hapless Knicks when he can pick where he wants to go. That's the most delusional thing I've ever heard.

20 Apr 2017 22:05:33
Porzingis for cj mccallom and portland 1.

20 Apr 2017 23:47:52
Knicks shouldn't deal porzingis. They'd need all 3 of portlands 1sts, McCollum to start convo.

20 Apr 2017 23:52:37
Knicks say no and Portland should say yes.

21 Apr 2017 00:41:19
Not a terrible start to an idea. Although New York should not trade Porzingis.

21 Apr 2017 13:27:58
Agreed that they shouldn't trade him, but if they chose to, this is a pretty good return.

21 Apr 2017 17:47:59
They aren't trading porzingis. Literally, this is only a story because the media is writing about it. Kobe bryant did the same thing with phil. Porzingis loves new york. And new york loves porzingis. He will be here for the next 5-10 years.

20 Apr 2017 17:14:34
Portland and Brooklyn

Blazers gives
mem. 1st

Brooklyn gives
Brooke Lopez

Simple Brooklyn gets young talent, and Portland gets another building block for their win now mindset.

20 Apr 2017 17:41:27
Portland might have to include Clevelands pick as well, but I'd do it if I'm Portland. Even if the fit with Lopez and Nurkic would be questionable, get improved talent when you can, work out the fit later.

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