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17 Aug 2018 06:55:48
Spurs get: Whiteside, Winslow
Heat get: Gasol, Mills, Toronto 2019 st.

Heat get to move on from Whiteside, Solid backup big, solid backup PG, and 1st pick.

Spurs get upgrade at Center, upgrade at backup SF.

17 Aug 2018 08:37:17
I like this move for miami.

Talent wise, this is a steal for the Spurs, but i'm not sure they want Whiteside.

17 Aug 2018 16:18:55
Agreed Gasupo, I don’t know how Pop and Hassan get along together.

10 Aug 2018 18:22:44
Spurs get Whiteside, Winslow

Heat get Gasol, Mills, Toronto 2019 1st.

Spurs upgrade at center. add backup SF. They are officially out of 2019 free agent bloodbath.

Heat get rid of Whiteside (contract), backup PG which they don't have now. They have a shot at participating in 2019 free agency bloodbath if they buyout Gasol and trade Mills in offseason.

10 Aug 2018 19:14:03
Heat have waiters and dragic already.

10 Aug 2018 22:17:54
Waiters is not a point guard, he is starting SG. Mills can backup both guard positions.

11 Aug 2018 01:32:18
I still think the heat need more in return, or less patty mills.

07 Aug 2018 21:27:40
Spurs and Heat trade:

Spurs get Hassan Whiteside, Justise Winslow

Heat get: Pau Gasol, Patty Mills, Toronto 2019 1st pick (protected)

Both teams are capped out for 2019 free agency barring big moves, so this deal means they are set for two years.

Spurs get rebounder and rim protector and backup SF in Winslow on rookie deal. This deal would make SA contenders for the next two years.

Heat get rid of Whiteshide and his contract. Attitude problems stem from too many centers. Heat can concentrate on Olynick and Adabayo, Gasol can play PF and won't pout about playing time. Heat only have 1 PG on their roster. Mills is top tier backup PG. They also get Toronto's pick in 2019, unless they fold or Kawhi doesn't play.

08 Aug 2018 00:30:46
I think it is an ok deal could be better, but might could happen. I do t think the spurs would want Whiteside though. I don't think Whiteside and Aldridge in the locker room together would be a good idea.

08 Aug 2018 03:37:49
Spurs won't give that puck.

08 Aug 2018 12:04:32
I think pop would kick Whiteside to the kerbside no more trades happening with spurs.

08 Aug 2018 17:08:13
Thanks for the comments. I just have a few thoughts on your objections to this deal.

Spurs owe it to LMA to be competitive. This deal would be largely for his benefit. Spurs are not competitive with Gasol as starting center and Poeltl is not ready for that role yet. Aldridge is a quiet leader and would get along with just about anyone who helps the team. Whiteside's complaints with Heat are about playing time. He would get lot's of playing time at center with Spurs so he should be happy.

Whiteside just played with coach Messina in Africa and had great things to say about him. Pop would make the situation work, I disagree with the notion of kicking him to the kerbside.

Spurs will have two late 1st round picks next year and they still need to bring over euro-stash project Nicola Mulatinov. They don't need Toronto's pick unless they use it with their own pick to move up in the draft. Even then, they really don't need more youngsters right now.

I do agree that the Spurs don't like to make too many changes and they like the current roster. However, this deal would be too good to pass up and would make them competitive for the next two years. If they stay put, the Spurs will not be able to do anything in free agency next year to upgrade the team, because of Gasol and Mills contracts.

08 Aug 2018 18:24:56
wholly disagree this would make the spurs contenders.

01 Aug 2018 19:54:04
San Antonio Spurs:
Kenneth Faried
DeMarre Carroll

Brooklyn Nets:
Patty Mills
Pau Gasol
pick Toronto.

01 Aug 2018 21:18:24
Nets targeting free agency. They have cap space for 3 maxed contracts next summer. Spurs want to hold on to their picks. If spurs want to dump salary and are in rebuilding time, they would use aldridge and derozan to dump gasol and mills.

27 Jul 2018 23:12:52
Spurs get: Wilson Chandler, Robin Lopez

Bulls get: Pattly Mills

76ers get: Pau Gasol.

27 Jul 2018 23:52:53
Mills isn’t worth his contract and still has 3 years left. There is no point for the Bulls to do that when Lopez is about to be off the books.

28 Jul 2018 01:11:53
Without picks not happening.

28 Jul 2018 02:17:51
Sixers pass. Chandler is expiring, and is at a position of need (backup forward) for sixers.

27 Jul 2018 22:33:18
Spurs trade Pau Gasol to Philadelphia for Wilson Chandler and Spurs trade Patty Mills to Chicago for Robin Lopez.

Spurs get a SF and Center on expiring contracts. Frees up money in 2019 to go after Jimmy Butler or Tobias Harris.

26 Jul 2018 19:31:49
The Spurs get Walker, Batum, and MKG

The Gasol(buyout), Gay(buyout), Mills, Burtans, the Toronto 19 1st and the Spurs 19 1st

26 Jul 2018 21:59:11
Your back to clevelands day trading players with multi yr left, expecting buyouts like it going to benefit your idea.

26 Jul 2018 22:20:39
They’d be going to an awful team. Gay has 1 year left on his deal and Gasol only has 7 million left after this season. Both would probably prefer being on a contender and still have something left to give to a good team. I’m sure Charlotte would be willing to buy them out and tank. Even if there isn’t a buy out of either guy, the Hornets save a ton of money.

26 Jul 2018 23:42:07
So my point made if they have to pay him why cut him. Let gasol request a buyout for less money, save money. You waste money. Bad GMing.

27 Jul 2018 02:11:50
I’m not a gm. I’m just stating that the circumstances would most likely end in both players being bought out. Both players can still help a contender, both players are
With the Spurs because they thought they’d be competing for a titlle and probably took less to do it, the Hornets really want to save money, and both players can probably recoup most of the money they lose In the buyout. It’s not about leverage if you both are working towards the same goal.

27 Jul 2018 17:33:12
Even if Gasol and Gay didn't get bought out, I think the Hornets could move them fairly easily. They're still vet role players that can produce. Trade deadline deals could get the Hornets at least younger players on similar contracts to take chances on. Or they could just play them, and waive them after next season.

I like the move for both teams. The Hornets get out of one of the worse contracts in the NBA and get a couple picks back. The Spurs get a really good PG, and a couple decent role players (even if they are overpaid) . I think Batum would be great in Pop's system.

One drawback is that Aldridge was rumored to HATE Batum. Portland traded Batum as a last attempt to try to convince Aldridge to return (among other reasons) .

29 Jul 2018 16:19:19
Rkeene- spurs will win 50 or more games. They did decent last year and they are adding DeRozan.

26 Jul 2018 17:23:23
Raptors/ Spurs trade:

To TOR - Derozan

To SAS - any combination of players to match salaries

Spurs and Raptors do this just so the rest of us are spared Demar’s whining. I appreciate that he feels “betrayed”, but now cancelling out of Basketball without Borders because it’s a Ujiri thing? Grow up a bit bud.

26 Jul 2018 18:09:51
You can't understand that he's genuinely upset and has to uproot his entire life? He is a person and not just a basketball player.

If you were forced to transfer from your dream job and location to somewhere you have no interest in living, how happy would you be? I'd be pretty pissed.

26 Jul 2018 21:20:06
Bmiller, I understand why he would be upset, and appreciate the ramifications of moving family, etc. With that said, I did not sign up to work for a company that can “forcefully” transfer me. Being dealt is part of being an athlete. Most athletes families don’t live in the city they play in either.

Now, let me put it back at you. You’re working for a company and you no longer want to work there, can you force your work to send you to a competitor ala Claw? What are the chances that I can openly negotiate with all of my current company’s major competitors openly without being fired? Every time a player plays the FA market and then decides to resign where they were, that is a luxury you and I would not be afforded.

I understand his anger, my point was he’s just gone on about it for far too long, and has now become petty with this Basketball without Borders thing. We all know you’re not happy Demar, now move on.

26 Jul 2018 21:24:32
Being traded is part of the risk NBA players take signing those huge contracts. They get paid way too much to play a game. It's just as ridiculous as Latrell Sprewell saying he couldn't afford to feed his kids on $10M a year. IMO suck it up or find another job.

26 Jul 2018 21:48:33
Especially since the Raptors told Rozen that he wasn't being traded, just days before the deal.
That said, pro sports are a business and things like that happen. So, there are two sides to it. I do feel for him.

27 Jul 2018 17:40:25
From a business perspective, it's not a competitor, it's a different section of the same company (the NBA) .

I can negotiate with a competitor without my current company finding out because I don't work in a public industry. I've done it, I've been offered a different job with better pay and benefits, and my current company wanted to retain me, so they matched those numbers. It's really common in businesses.

Being traded is part of the NBA, and I get that. Not saying that they shouldn't have traded him. But Toronto handled it incredibly poorly at every level. And Derozan should be given the benefit to be unhappy with the outcome. It's not like he's asking out of his contract or refusing to play, he's just short term pissed.

I think that Toronto might have shot themselves in the foot overall. Will a big time free agent want to go there with the way they handled this situation? I would drop them a bit on my "Free Agent Destination Power Rankings" after this.

23 Jul 2018 22:56:11
Spurs Trade Rudy Gay to Nets

Nets Trade DeMarre Carrol to Spurs

Spurs Trade Patty Mills to Suns

Suns Trade Brandon Knight to Spurs

Spurs Need Back up Point Guard to Replace Tony Parker & Spurs need Small Forward Replacement for Kawhi Leonard Spot

What's y'all think??

Or should Spurs go after TJ Warren then DeMarre Carrol?

24 Jul 2018 06:44:55
you traded a PG and SF for a PG and SF. So do spurs still need to trade for a PG and SF?

23 Jul 2018 19:31:04
Magic get Zbo

Spurs get Demarre and Ross

Kings get Gasol and raptors first

Brooklyn gets Mills and Koufos

23 Jul 2018 21:20:08
I'd rather have Carroll than koufos and mills.

23 Jul 2018 23:40:00
Why do magic want a forward? All their young guys are forwards.

23 Jul 2018 13:24:06
PHX-SAS

PHX- gasol/ mills/ sas 1st rd pick
SAS- warren/ chandler.

23 Jul 2018 14:05:01
Why would the Suns do this?

23 Jul 2018 17:06:05
For the extra pick and dumoping Warren's contract

Ayton need more help on defence, so i think Chandler would be a better mentor and the Suns should keep him.

Warren for Mills+ pick would be better.

23 Jul 2018 18:34:07
Gasol? Need defense and you think paul gasol? Lol.

23 Jul 2018 09:43:51
Spurs: Z-BO+ WC STein

Portland: Shumpert+Koufos

Sacramento: P Gasol+E Turner+ 1rnd pick Spurs+ 1rnd pick Portland+ 2rnd pick Portland 2020+ 2rnd pick spurs 2020

23 Jul 2018 16:42:27
I can't see Portland giving up two picks and increase their cap hit and tax this year, just to get rid of one year of Turner's deal.

23 Jul 2018 16:46:18
Strengthen WC TEAMS to hurts lakers and lebron. Another sad move by cavs fan lmao.

23 Jul 2018 17:06:49
Maybe withoud Koufos, Sacramento can take the extra money.

23 Jul 2018 07:29:20
The Bucks get Mcollum, Vucevic, Simmons, and Augustine

The Blazers get Fournier, Middleton, and Snell

The Magic get , Henson, Brogdon, Divincenzo, Turner, Simons, Swannigan, Gasol(buyout), Mills, Paul, Toronto's 2019 1st lottery protected via SA, Portland 2019 1st, Milwaukee's 2021 1st, 2 Spurs 2nds, and Blazers 2nd

The Spurs get Bledsoe(exp), Ross, (exp), and Henson

The Bucks get the perfect pg and C to complement GA. They replace Middleton's defense with Simmons, who was a great defender with the Spurs and get a pg that can shoot off the bench.

The Blazers get to dump Turners contract, they get a side kick in Middleton who complements Dame better, and they strengthen themselves on the wing, which seems like their biggest hole. Snell is a solid young 3 and d guy and Fournier can give them the scoring threat that they hadn't previously had there

The Magic cash in on all of their players of marginal value and take on bad contracts to get a good haul of picks and young players. They also add Brogdon, who is a young heady pg, and Mills, who's a decent veteran pg. both of these guys can help with the development of their young bigs. They can run the offense and get guys the ball in the right spaces.

The Spurs get a solid NBA starting pg, which they were missing the past few years and he may be able to get a little more out of him. He also gets a young talented wing in Ross, who hasn't ever been able to put it all together. Under Pop, he may very well be able to do that and that would be great for the Spurs since they're thin on the wing after letting Slomo walk and the Kawhi trade. Plus they get a shot blocker, which they've been missing since Duncan left. Ross and Bledsoe are both expiring and pop may be able to open up more if there is a chance at a star.

23 Jul 2018 08:04:55
This is so complicated it goes beyond believability. McCollum for Middleton is one thing but adding all the junk takes it out of this world. Lillard should go anyway. McCollum is the better player defensively and offensively. As a PG anyway. Better defensively no matter what position.

23 Jul 2018 14:04:27
I believe the Bucks would pass.

23 Jul 2018 14:08:14
I think middleton is as good as McCollum, or pretty close.

23 Jul 2018 18:45:25
Hi rkeene, Just a fyi. You have Henson going to the Magic AND Spurs?

23 Jul 2018 05:41:25
Spurs get Demarre

Nets get Gasol and Raptors first

Spurs get Ross

Magic get Paul and Mills

23 Jul 2018 08:10:19
Do the spurs land Carroll or ross?

23 Jul 2018 14:12:26
Obviously both lol. This guy wants the spurs to be the 2015 Raptors hahaha.

23 Jul 2018 02:29:28
Spurs Trade Patty Mills 2020 second round pick to Suns

Suns Trade TJ Warren to Spurs

Suns need a Point Guard

Spurs need a Small Forward to Replace Kawhi Leonard Spot

22 Jul 2018 21:27:31
Spurs Trade Rudy Gay to Thunder

Thunder Trade Andre Robertson to Spurs

22 Jul 2018 22:28:31
Why? Okc loves roberson.

22 Jul 2018 23:37:01
That wouldn't happen thunder really value Roberson and last year really showed you how much he actually does help the team even though he can't shoot they went from one of the best defenses to average just because of his injury. I'm not saying thunder wouldn't trade him but not for gay they would have to get a good trade that most teams probably wouldn't do because he can't shoot.

23 Jul 2018 03:26:11
nah roberson is too important on defense and they got enough scorers.

27 Jul 2018 23:07:09
I think the Spurs would reject this trade. Gay is too important to their offense.

21 Jul 2018 01:50:25
Spurs Trade DeJounte Murray

Bucks Malcolm Brogdon

21 Jul 2018 15:32:11
Why would the Bucks trade a PG for a PG/ SG? Milwaukee currently has 11 guards on their roster. At least 6 of them can play PG, (Not including Giannis A. who at times also has played PG)

21 Jul 2018 17:42:58
Spurs like Murray, Bucks like Brogdon, no need for this deal.

21 Jul 2018 21:22:57
he literally puts no thought into the actual trades. its just heres a player, heres a player. either the salaries match so its a perfect trade, or if you add up the ppg of the players on one side, if they equal about the ppg of the other side, its perfect as well!

20 Jul 2018 19:38:56
Spurs Trade Patty Mills Manu Ginobill Brandon Paul Derrick White
Darrun Hillard 2019 first round pick (TOR) 2019 second round pick

Heat Trade Goran Dragic Derrick Jones Jr

20 Jul 2018 20:17:02
Heat don't have a draft picks.

20 Jul 2018 20:33:03
They have both 2019 and 2020 1st rounders, and they currently can't trade either of them.

20 Jul 2018 06:08:41
Boston Trade Marcus Morris Kyrie Irving

Spurs Trade Pau Gasol Patty Mills 2019 first round pick (TOR)

20 Jul 2018 06:19:09
lol. Ainge would never make that trade, because it is horrible.

20 Jul 2018 07:31:43
That’s more of a package for just Morris, not Irving.

20 Jul 2018 12:55:20
Geez, I hate agreeing with C’s fans, but Bmiller is pretty much right. That package may get the Spurs Morris and a 2nd.

22 Jul 2018 17:28:11
You need to just stop, you’re clueless man.

20 Jul 2018 03:02:26
Spurs Trade Petty Mills 2019 first round pick (TOR)

Hornets Trade Kemba Walker

20 Jul 2018 05:02:08
*Patty Mills*.

20 Jul 2018 05:16:43
Walker is worth more than that.

20 Jul 2018 06:23:27
Tor pick is top 20 protected! NO way Hornets do this deal!

 
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