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21 Jun 2017 07:49:24
Clippers are looking to deal Jordan. Not sure what Clippers are looking for in return (I guess depends on how their offseason goes) but don't see them getting anything too great since most good teams don't have a need for a center, he'll be 29 in a month and he only has 1 year guaranteed left (player option for 18-19 which he'll probably opt out of to get one last big contract) .

Bucks get: Deandre Jordan
Clippers get: #17, Vaughn, Henson, Teletovic

Could swap Henson and Teletovic for Monroe if he opts in. This return would be decent if Clippers were aiming to rebuild.

Celtics get: DeAndre Jordan
Clippers get: Horford, Clippers 2019 1st, Boston 2018 1st

Boston needs a rebounder at center position and still keep cap space for Hayward and other moves. Clippers get draft picks including their own back and a versatile big that is signed a year longer than Jordan.

Bulls get: DeAndre Jordan
Clippers get: Lopez, Valentine and #16 pick

Bulls get an all-nba player to add to Butler and still have cap space to make a splash in FA. Could alternatively incorporate Wade if he opts in. Clippers get a solid pick and hometown solid starting big in Lopez and young prospect in Valentine.

Cavs get: Jordan
Clippers get: Thompson and Frye

Not sure if really makes Cavs better but Jordan is bigger force on interior and Clippers get a younger big that is signed 3 more years.

Wizards: Jordan
Clippers: Gortat and Bogdanovic (S&T)

Gortat is reportedly unhappy with Wizards so they upgrade on him while Clipper get two solid players in return.

Spurs and his hometown Rockets would also be good destinations but couldn't think of a trade that would really make sense for both sides (some of these are a stretch as is) .

21 Jun 2017 11:10:57
I think the clippers want pg. In that way they might keep cp3 and blake. Give the assets to indy.
If pg leaves in 2018 they still have cp3 and blake.
Think a firstrounder in the range 12-16 is enough because lakers can't offer much.

21 Jun 2017 13:52:19
I guess dealing Jordan would be a way for Clippers to get assets to get in the George sweepstakes. I'm just not sure Paul and Griffin would base their decision to return for multiple years or not on a guy who may only be a 1year rental. If anything its the other way around, if they are able to sign Paul and Griffin they could help Clippers to resign George if they traded Jordan for him in a 3 team trade.

20 Jun 2017 13:15:24
SAC Rebuild

1. Let Rudy Gay walk
2. Resign Tyreke Evans

3. SAC - DET

SAC get: Andre Drummond

DET get: WCS, Aaron Afflalo, 2017 1st DP SAC (5)

4. SAC - SAS

SAC get: Lamarcus Aldridge

SAS get: Skal Labissere and 2017 1st DP SAC (10)


pg. Evans
sg. Heild
sf. Temple
pf. Aldridge
c. Drummond

20 Jun 2017 13:33:57
Rebuilding by getting big men that aren't good on defense and giving up all youth and picks? Smart.

20 Jun 2017 14:02:21
Drummond is bad at defense?

20 Jun 2017 14:49:39
How is this a rebuild? You just gave up two picks that could produce better players than Drummond or Aldridge. Not to mention giving up two young bigs that played very well at the end of last year. This would never happen.

20 Jun 2017 14:53:20
Let Gay walk? He is walking on his own actually so at least part of your idea makes sense. Resigning Evans is a risk based on his health issues but if you get him at right value it's worth it.

20 Jun 2017 16:41:43
Ok stay a lottery team.

20 Jun 2017 13:05:35
Knicks "build" offseason

Phil is obviously trying to move Melo to get younger and play the triangle, but what if he can't find a deal him? Why not build instead:

Three team deal:


To CHI - Courtney Lee

To SAS - Hernangomez, Valentine

Knicks move Zinger to center while adding a star player. Bulls pick up much needed outside shooting without breaking the bank. Spurs get two young promising players, and I one move clear almost enough space to sign Chris Paul.

Knicks/ Wolves

To NYK: Rubio

To MIN: Pick 8, Noah

Knicks get their point guard, and ditch Noah's contract. Wolves have the space to take on Noah's deal, and add another lottery pick to use or package for a star player.

This still leaves the Knicks with approximately $20M worth of space to fill the Shooting Guard role (Iggy, Ian Clark? ) and bench support to go with O'Quinn, Thomas and Kuz.

20 Jun 2017 14:50:37
Knicks still won't makes playoffs with this team. The only option they have is to rebuild.

19 Jun 2017 19:56:08

SAS- Paul George
IND- Lamarcus Aldridge, Dejounte Murray

It would be next to impossible for IND to find a better player to exchange for George. Aldridge, although not nearly as good as George, can put fans in the seats and give you something to build around. Murray is a good PG to plug in as well.

Sign Chris Paul

C- Pau Gasol/Dwayne Dedmon
PF- Paul George/David Lee
SF- Kawhi Leonard/Kyle Anderson
SG- Danny Green/Justin Simmons
PG- Chris Paul/Tony Parker

19 Jun 2017 21:18:32
Pacers aren't looking for the best player in exchange for George they are likely looking to rebuild so they wouldn't be interested in Aldridge at all unless a 3rd team took him and gave pacers younger assets/ draft picks. Aldridge will be 32 this summer and only has 1 year more guaranteed on his contract (player option for 18-19) so it would be foolish for Pacers to take this offer since they'd end up in same place.

Also, Spurs would not be able to get George and sign Paul to over 30 mill. They would have to deal Gasol and Parker and likley wouldn't be able to resign Dedmon or Simmons.

19 Jun 2017 12:16:27

LMA for PG

18 Jun 2017 19:04:12
Knicks Get: 29th pick

Spurs Get: 44th pick, Maurice Ndour, cash considerations

New York have worked out a lot of prospects that could be available towards the end of the 1st round, such as Bam Adeabyo, Tony Bradley and Derrick White. San Antonio need to save every penny that they can if they want to make a legitimate run at superstars such as Chris Paul and decide to trade down into the 2nd round, take on Ndour's unguaranteed contract and receive cash considerations.

18 Jun 2017 23:27:07
Spurs could likely do better than this like use the pick to actually move a contract like say Gasol's if he opts in.

19 Jun 2017 03:13:55
If he opts in, I think Gasol is staying, but I could see the Spurs using that pick in moving LMA or Green.

17 Jun 2017 15:07:58
Spurs Offseason

Trade Gasol, Anderson, Jean Charles and 59 to Brooklyn for 2018 2nd rounder

Get Parker to retire because of his injury

Sign CP3 to 4y100m
Resign Patty Mills 3y36m
Resign Simmons 3y21m

Draft Jordan Bell at 29.



17 Jun 2017 15:40:04
I don't think they need to resign Mills if they get Paul. Murray is their PG of the future and he showed flashes in the playoffs, so just let him be backup and use that money to sign a FA big man, maybe Ibaka or someone who can stretch the floor for Paul and Leonard instead of Dedmon.

17 Jun 2017 19:12:57
I think the Paul contract is too low. I agree that Mills would not be signed because of Bpd0003's thoughts. Lastly, Simmons might get more because of the landscape of contracts this year in the NBA.

17 Jun 2017 07:59:34

sas- chandler/ bledsoe
phx- gasol/ green/ anderson/ 29th pick 2017

gibson- 10m/ yr 2yrs 20m
tony allen 5m/ yr 2yrs 10m
jeff green 4m/ yr 2yrs 8m
carter/ sefolosha vet min
adam hanga rookie contract

PG. bledsoe/ murray/ parker
SG. allen/ sefolosha/ hanga
SF. leonard/ green/ carter
PF. aldrigde/ bertans/ lee
C. chandler/ gibson.

16 Jun 2017 19:49:07
Boston: LM Aldrige+ D Green
Spurs: A Bradley+ Horford

16 Jun 2017 20:07:50
Boston passed. At best it's a lateral move. I'd say Bradley is a little better than Green. He's better on the offensive end and even if metrics say differently Bradley passes the eye test defensively. Horfords passing and defense trumps whatever upside Aldridge has in scoring.

16 Jun 2017 20:09:58
That's most definitely a no from Boston.

16 Jun 2017 20:52:37
Think bigg

LMA is on a better contract than Horford
And Bradley is going for a big contract next year.
Green is a good dual player for Fultz. The best Green is a borderline All Star and he can give Fultz the minutes to develop.
And in two years both players become free agents so Boston can trade them to teams that need capspace use the capspace themselves.

16 Jun 2017 21:07:35
Green and Aldridge are both free agents next year. They'll have to pay them or lose them.

16 Jun 2017 21:42:33
Do they have a player option?
The have contracts for two more years.

16 Jun 2017 22:35:41
Yeah, but in the current climate they'll opt out looking for there last big contract.

16 Jun 2017 17:36:40
Wolves send 7th pick
Lakers send 2nd and Luol deng
Thibs gets a former veteran
Lakers clear space

Blazers send 15th and 26th , Harkless
Lakers send 7th , 28th

Lakers send 15th , Randle , Clarkson , Brewer
Spurs send Aldridge and Green
Thoughts ?

16 Jun 2017 18:15:20
Don't like it, Aldridge couldn't get it done when he was the man in POR putting up big numbers and all but disappeared when put on a great team alongside a great player. He just takes up cap space for the Lakers they can use in 2018 on P George and/ or Boogie Cousins.

16 Jun 2017 16:47:42
Spurs: B Lopez

Nets: T Parker+ P Gasol+ 1rnd pick Spurs 2017 and 2019

Spurs sign K Lowry

C: B Lopez/Dedmon
PF: LM Aldridge/D Lee
SF: K Leonard/anderson
SG: D Green/Giobilli
PG: K Lowry/ Murray

16 Jun 2017 17:08:28
Taking on those two contracts seems worth a 1st and Lopez for 2 late 1st seems cheap. I hate it for Brooklyn.

16 Jun 2017 18:04:12
It's not the best return, but Lopez is a free agent next year.

16 Jun 2017 20:51:05
I don't think the Spurs will trade Parker, but Gasol is definitely a possibility. If the Spurs become that desperate to gain cap space, the Nets could probably get him and the first for a second rounder. If they're including Lopez, I think that it would be for Aldridge instead. They should be looking to San Antonio and Portland to absorb salary and bring in picks. Those two teams are looking to get rid of some silly salaries, but they aren't for bad players. The Nets would be able to improve while also bringing in better players than their own. Win-win.

16 Jun 2017 15:13:15
Kings want to move up
Lakers send 2nd , Loul Deng , Tarik Black , Nick young
Kings send 5th , 10th ,

Lakers send 10th , Julius Randle
Spurs Send Lamarcus Aldridge

Lakers send 5th , 28th , Jordan Clarkson
Suns send Devin booker

Okay now I think this works
Opinions ?

16 Jun 2017 15:28:38
No way the suns trade booker for that.

16 Jun 2017 15:33:29
1st trade is a easy no. Second might work. 3rd is the worst. Why should the Suns trade booker?

16 Jun 2017 15:40:50
The 5 and 10 is an over pay for for the 2 let alone taking on Deng. The Kings already have young centers. I don't think Black does anything for them.
The 2nd isn't terrible if the Spurs are trying to dump salary to bring in Paul.
The Suns aren't even going to talk Booker. He's untouchable.

17 Jun 2017 05:00:27
DO NOT even bring up Devin Booker! Suns view him as their face of the franchise. Untouchable at this point in his young career.

16 Jun 2017 15:11:15
Spurs Offseason

Clear Cap for Max FAs


Aldridge for Zeller, #11


Try to convince gasol to opt out and take a big pay cut, if not:
Parker, Gasol, #29 for RHJ

Sign Paul, Millsap
Resign Simmons, Ginobli
Draft Collins


16 Jun 2017 16:02:34
I think they could get a little more out of Aldridge and I think Brooklyn would want a little more to take on both contracts, but maybe since both are expiring contracts they would be willing.

17 Jun 2017 03:03:51
Love it. except the Tony Parker trade.

Improvised trade:
Nets get: Pau Gasol, Davis Bertans, #28.

Spurs get: Justin Hamilton, RHJ, cash, weekly resort in Brooklyn.

15 Jun 2017 17:01:39

ATL get: Lamarcus Aldridge, Jaylen Brown, and SAS 1st DP 2017
Draft: Justin Jackson (19) and Ivan Rabb (29)
Sign: Jeff Teague

pg. Teague
sg. Brown
sf. Bazemore/ Jackson
pf. Aldridge
c. Rabb/ FA

BOS get: Blake Griffin and JJ Reddick
Draft: Markelle Fultz
Sign: Gordon Hayward

pg. Thomas/ Fultz
sg. Bradley/ Reddick
sf. Hayward
pf. Griffin
c. Horford

LAC get: Paul Milsap (s&t), Tony Parker, Jae Crowder, Dennis Schroeder and 2018 1st DP BKN via BOS

pg. Parker/ Schroeder
sg. Rviers/ Crawford
sf. Crowder
pf. Milsap
c. Jordan

SAS get: Dwight Howard and Chris Paul

pg. Paul
sg. Green
sf. Leonard
pf. Gasol
c. Howard

15 Jun 2017 18:02:30
C's can't sign Blake, JJ and Hayward. And then IT next year. Just can't happen mathematically.

15 Jun 2017 18:47:57
wouldnt resign IT, that's where fultz comes in.

15 Jun 2017 19:44:13
Still won't work . Horford, Blake, Hayward and JJ puts you over the cap. Just them 4 alone. Would be nice if only the cap were 130 million.

16 Jun 2017 16:45:08
It's either Griffin or Hayward. Can't be both. Personally, I would love to see them sign Griffin and trade bodies and picks (not this year's #1 pick ) for Butler.

14 Jun 2017 16:29:49
4trade team deal sign and trade
Cavs get Hayward
Jazz get W Chandler plus something like a pick (lets say one or two second rounders)
Nuggets getT Thompson plus 2ndround pick/youngplayer from nets
Nets get Shumpert

Makes sense for nuggets because they get a quality center who can cover up for jokic deficiencies and nets get a good player for nothing. Nuggets can later trade plumlee and nets shumpert to other teams

With that trade cavs have saved 28 million. let's say they give hayward around 20-22 mill. If they add the MLE and Lebron gets a paycut they have around 10-12 million to spend for a quality center. Now Paul Millsap would be a reach but I believe Serge Freaking IBAKA would sign with the cavs. Alternative options are Dedmon of spurs and Amir Johnson Taj Gibson and Andrew Bogut.

Then use bird rights to resign Korver . Resign Frye. Offer minimums to NENE (he is a ring chaser and took a minimum to play for houston) Speights (knows warriors philosophy) beno udrih/jose calderon

Depht Chart
PG Irving/Udrih/D Will
SG (Hayward)/Korver/JR Smirh
SF LeBron/ (Hayward)/Jefferson
PF Love/ Frye
C Ibaka(or any of the other mentioned)/Speights/Nene

14 Jun 2017 16:53:57
Why does Utah, Brooklyn, or Denver do this?

14 Jun 2017 17:27:48
Get your head down and read why it makes sense. Why doesn't it?

14 Jun 2017 17:28:11
Why doesn't it make sense I mean.

14 Jun 2017 18:11:35
None of those teams outside of Cleveland would even consider it, especially Utah.

14 Jun 2017 18:24:22
Hayward is not going to sign a contract for 20-22 million especially on a S&T.

14 Jun 2017 03:42:02

gasol to boston or any other east team for second rounder

ginobili- vet min
lee- plyr opt

ivan rabb

ibaka- 20m/ yr 4yrs 80m last yr plyr opt
nene- 10m/ yr 2yrs 20m
daren collison- 4m/ yr 1yr
jeff green 4m/ yr 2 yrs 8m 2yr plyr opt
rookie adam hanga rookie contract

PG. murray/ collison/ parker
SG. green/ ginobili/ hanga
SF. leonard/ green/ anderson
PF. aldridge/ bertans/ lee
C. ibaka/ nene/ rabb.

14 Jun 2017 07:49:24
I think its believable but I think Spurs need to shake up things more than this if they want a shot at beating Warriors. I know Spurs don't want to move Parker but his contract is a big holdup on them adding more talent. Also, I think moving Aldridge has to be explored especially if it can bring back cheaper pieces since it opens the door for another big FA signing like say Paul instead of Collison. Also, I'd probably give Dedmond money before Nene since he is younger.

12 Jun 2017 04:42:10

spurs can rebuild with leonard


sas gets- 7th pick from min/ 10 pick from sac

draft- dennis smith/ laure markkanen
hayward 27.5m/ yr 110m 4 yr w/ plyr option
noel- 17m/ yr 68m 4 yr w/ plyr opt
vet min- jeff green/ bogut or thomas robinson
rookie frm euro- hanga/ milutinuv

PG. smith/ murray/ parker
SG. hayward/ green/ ginobili
SF. leonard/ green/ hanga
PF. markkanen/ bertans/ lee
C. noel/ bogut/ milutinuv

min gets aldridge/ anderson/ 29 pick frm spurs
sign reddick
pg. rubio/ jones
sg. reddick/ lavine
sf. wiggins/ anderson
pf. aldridge/ bjelica
c. towns/ dieng

sac gets dunn/ simmons (s&t9m)
out- 10 pick.

12 Jun 2017 07:22:48
If I'm the Twolves I'd prefer Issac at #7 and wouldn't give up this much for Aldridge. I don't think the front office is ready to give up on Dunn and sound more likely to trade Rubio than him. Makes more sense to keep assets and just sign Millsap, Ibaka or someone than give up a bunch of assets for a guy I don't think is that great a fit (Aldridge is primarily an offensive threat which I don't think Twolves need) .

Don't understand why Kings would ever do this. They can sign Simmons if they want since they have plenty of cap space and getting Dunn makes little sense when they'll likely geta pg at #5 and a better pg prospect would likely be available at #10. Dunn is already 23 and looked like he'll take some time to make a dent in the league. I wouldn't feel comfortable giving up a #10 for him right now especially if I'm a team like Kings so far from competing.

Spurs getting way too much for what they are giving up. Don't see Dallas letting Noel leave in rfa. I could see Spurs dealing Aldridge to a team like Hornets for their lotto pick and keeping and developing that guy while replenishing the win-now talent in FA but this scenario is far too optimistic. I think DeAndre Jordan would be a great trade candidate for them (after they moved Aldridge, Gasol and Parker/ Green) and someone who could help them sign Paul.

13 Jun 2017 20:11:35
I agree that the T-Wolves Probably won't give up Kris Dunn so quickly. But I could see them doing a straight up trade for Aldridge and the number 7 pick. If I'm the wolves I have enough assists that I am willing to give up a mid lottery pick for a star at the end of his prime that could help expedite the rebuilding process. Aldridge also plays a position of need and the Wolves really don't need any more young guards and I am not sold on Jonathan Isaac fit with the wolves. Dallas is almost definitely going to match any offer for Noel so I don't see that happening. I could also see a team like the Hornets attempt to make a deal for LA.

12 Jun 2017 03:01:42


atl- gasol/ green/ 29 pick 2017
sas- howard

sign- paul
sign some vet. wm cheap salary like sefolosha/ jeff green/ thomas robinson/ tyler ennis

sign rookie hanga/ milutinuv

line up
pg. paul/ murray/ ennis
sg. sefolosha/ hanga/ ginobili
sf. leonard/ green/ anderson
pf. aldridge/ bertans/ lee
c. howard/ robinson/ milutinuv.

12 Jun 2017 07:25:10
I don't hate it but unfortunately doesn't look like Parker is going to retire. I also think Spurs would be wise to get a little younger. Maybe ship Aldridge away to Hornets for their #11 pick and cap relief then just sign a replacement. Howard would be a relatively cheap pickup but I'd also like to see Spurs go after Jordan although he'd take a bit more to get to come over.

11 Jun 2017 16:35:30
spurs: O'Quin

NY: T Parker+ 1rnd pick Miami+ 1rnd pick spurs 2018

Miami: C Anthony

Spurs sign K Lowry for a 4y/100M
And Reddick 3y/ 45M

C: O'Quin/ Gasol
PF: LMA/ D Lee
Sf: K Leonard/K Anderson
SG: Reddick/ Green
PG:K Lowry/ Murray

NY draft:
Smith or Ntikilina
and: Justin Jackson

C: Hernangomer/ Noah
PF: Porzingis/Plumlee
SF: J Jackson/Kuzminskas
Sg: Lee/ Holiday
PG: Ntikilina/Parker

NY hit the free agent market in 2018

11 Jun 2017 16:42:22
The trade isn't bad, but the Spurs won't end up with any where near for the signings.

11 Jun 2017 17:48:52
Spurs won't deal Parker, though they should.

11 Jun 2017 23:26:21
Texas has a great taxregime, so can see Lowry and Reddick accept those contracts.

12 Jun 2017 03:14:28
Paul would obviously be the preference but Lowry wouldn't be a bad pickup. Reddick would be a good fit too.

10 Jun 2017 16:14:19

MIN- gasol/ green/ 2017 1st rd pick
SAS- rubio/ s&t muhammad (7m/ yr)

draft- isaac (7) and kurucs (29)
rose- 16m/ yr
gay- 15m/ yr
ingles 10m/ yr

PG. rose/ dunn/ jones
SG. green/ ingles/ lavine
SF. wiggins/ gay/ kurucs (29)
PF. gasol/ isaac (7)/ bjelica
C. towns/ dieng/ aldrich

trade anderson/ 2018 1st rd pick and right for milutinuv for phi- okafor
ibaka- 20m/ yr 4yrs 80m
sefolosha/ jeff green- vet min
kj mcdaniels- 1.5/ yr
adam hanga- rookie contract
christian wood- 1m/ yr (can waive before playoffs if they have a chance to sign more realable big)

PG. rubio/ murray/ parker
SG. sefolosha/ muhammad/ hanga
SF. leonard/ green/ mcdaniels
PF. aldridge/ bertans/ lee
C. ibaka/ okafor/ wood

if phili decline trade for okafor spurs will sign thomas robinson at there back up big.

10 Jun 2017 17:06:48
Terrible moves for Minnesota.

10 Jun 2017 17:15:47
I think philly does that trade for okafor in a split second. A late first, anderson and a euro stash is a solid return.

10 Jun 2017 17:52:11
Towns should be included.

10 Jun 2017 20:34:21
Gasol, danny green and a 1st for basically just rubio seems a bit to much.

11 Jun 2017 02:11:39
Gasol not a could fit with towns as he sucks defensively (minesotta's weakness) and is not an actual strech 4 (what philly needs next to towns) . Some concerns about ibaka (playing as full-time starter c) .
okafor's move though seems perfect.

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