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21 May 2017 06:59:23
spurs 2017-2018

retired
ginobili and parker

let go
gasol mills dedmon lee forbes and anthony

trade
aldridge and 2018 2nd rd pick to det harris and stanley johnson

green to 2018 2nd pick frm phi for salary space

sign
paul 105m 3yrs start with 33m
millsap 75m 3yrs start with 23m
collison 7m 2yrs 3.5m/ yr
sefolosha vet min
alex len 7m 2yrs 3.5m/ yr
muscala and tomas robinson for 5m

re-sign
simmons 42m 4yrs start with 9m

line up
pg. paul/ collison/ murray
sg. sefolosha/ simmons/ johnson
sf. leonard/ anderson
pf. millsap/ harris/ bertans
c. len/ muscala/ robinson

still one available spot that they sign at the start or mid of the season.

21 May 2017 07:34:35
small ball

millsap/ harris/ leonard/ simmons/ paul.

21 May 2017 08:01:48
Paul and Millsap both are going to demand 4 years and max contracts and Len is going to cost probably 4 times that much.

Spurs should be able to get much more than that for Aldridge and I don't think Detroit is the best destination.

21 May 2017 10:57:37
Gasol has player option, can't just let him go if he opts in.

21 May 2017 20:43:45
Pau is not opting out of 16.1 million at age 37.

19 May 2017 14:43:00
sas-den-phx

sas- bledsoe
den- gasol (s&t) mentor jokic
phx- chandler and sas 2017 1st rd pick

sas gets pg who can score and defense special parker is injudre
den- chandler want to out with the nuggets they get gasol to mentor jokic
phx- gets chandler that can 4 in small ball also they can draft smith jr at 4 pick.

19 May 2017 02:27:14
spurs 2017-2018

retired
parker
ginobili

let go
gasol
mills
dedmon
anthony
forbes (waive)

re-sign
simmons 6.5m 1yr
lee plyr opt

sign
paul 105m 3yrs start 33m
ibaka 84m 4 yrs start 18m
sefolosha vet min
tomas robinson or muscala 1.5m yr
stacky or gerald green vet min

spurs line up
pg paul/ murray/ mcconnel
sg sefolosha/ simmons/ stacky or green
sf leonard/ anderson
pf aldrigde/ bertans/ lee
c ibaka/ holmes/ t rob or muscala.

19 May 2017 04:51:46
trade
green and 2017 1st rd pick to phi mcconnel and holmes both accept team opt.

18 May 2017 01:52:36
Spurs get Melo CP3-EXT Hill Plumlee Ndour
Knicks get Parker Green Gasol Aldrich
Clippers get Rubio Pekovic
Wolves get Aldridge Noah Randle 29

Playoff team
Dunn/Jones/Randle
Lavine/Fox-7th/Iwundu-29
Wiggens/Muhammed/Casspi
Aldridge/Dieng/Bjelica
KAT/Noah/Payne

Deeper team with Gay better spacing.
Rubio/Rivers/Felton
Reddick/Crawford/Andersen
Gay/Johnson/Fa
Griffin/Moute/Johnson
Jordan/Speights/Stone

Challenge warriors
CP3/Mills/Murray
CLAW/Anderson/Forbes
Melo/Bertans/Ndour
Milsap/Lee/Bosh
Dedmon/Hill/Plumlee

Rebuild unity in triangle clear cap 2018
Parker/Ntilikini-8th/White-58th
Lee/Thornwell-44th/Early
Green/Thomas/Kuzminkas
Gasol/O'Quinn/Inglis
Porzingis/Hernangomez/Aldrich

17 May 2017 14:24:37
If CP3 goes to San Antonio, or anywhere else really.

Boston: Jordan (sign Hayward)

Clippers: Bradley, Crowder, Rozier, Boston 2018 1st round pick.

Boston is likely going to draft Fultz. At that point, they're going to have to do something with the glut of guards. Bradley has shown he's a beast, Crowder is that fantastic glue guy who does everything pretty well, and Rozier has really shown what he can do in this postseason. What they need is rebounding and rim protection. Jordan fits both bills, and they should still have room to sign a max contract in Hayward to man the SF spot.

Thomas/ Jackson
Fultz/ Smart
Hayward/ Brown/ Nader
Horford/ Yabusele/ Mickey
Jordan/ Zizic

The Clippers, on the other hand, are potentially looking at a full scale rebuild. If I'm them, I'm trying to keep myself relevant with the Lakers drafting so much potential star power. If they lose Paul, they're likely to lose Redick, and might lose Griffin as well. In that case, you can use Jordan to bring in players to fill holes in the roster. The key is, you're bringing in all three of those players totaling only 16 million for this season. Paul, Griffin, Redick and Jordan total 71 million this season. They'll finally have the financial flexibility they've been lacking for years. They'd also want to move Rivers and that stupid 11 million contract.

17 May 2017 14:56:41
I have the celtics signing hayward and trading that pick along with assets for jimmy butler and robin lopez. Giving them a lineup of:

Pg. I. Thomas
Sg. J. Butler
Sf. G. Hayward
Pf. A. Horford
C. R. Lopez.

17 May 2017 16:29:04
How does Boston pay all these guys and field a respectable bench? They have to resign Thomas at this point right? He's going to get 200 mil.

Are both crowder and Bradley gone at the end of thier contracts? What about smart? All thrse guys will be offered more money elsewhere. right?

17 May 2017 16:42:55
I tend to like junkies trade. It would put the C's right up there on the luxury threshold for 1 year though. But if your in it to win then it would be worth it. Providing you win. Also If they could swing this without giving up next years Net pick it's makes it more realistic.

No matter how one looks at it Boston will have a completely different team next year outside of IT and Horford.

17 May 2017 17:52:59
IT is not getting 200 million!

17 May 2017 19:26:41
IT will be getting the max from somewhere.179 million is the actual amount if we're being a stickler.

My point is moreso that Ainge is going to have to be very creative, and that major parts of thier current team aren't going to be there going forward if they sign/ trade for another max guy.

17 May 2017 22:21:21
Don't think that is enough to get Jordan but Celtics could really use an upgrade at the center position with some rebounding (Jordan is one of leading rebounders in NBA) .

As many alluded to the issue becomes salary. IT has been the life blood of the team so I find it tough to get rid of him but he is an aging 5ft9 guard and Fultz could potentially step into his role if they did acquire a Hayward/ Butler type that could pickup the primary scorer role. I'm not sure what his value is like but I think Horford would be a natural option to shop. Although extremely skilled he has a large contract, getting up there in age and is a bit of a tweener at this point in his career. If they added another star to IT I think he becomes an expensive 3rd option. Bradley I think also sadly has to go since they simply won't be able to afford him if they add another big name.

17 May 2017 05:45:04
Spurs - Thad, GR3, and 2017 1st

Pacers - Aldridge and Mills (s&t)

Spurs draft - Patton and Lydon

- Spurs sign CP3 with them moving LA, Mills will be expendable then w Murray and Parker. Thad is a versatile forward who can be matched up w Draymond or any other stretch 4

- Pacers get PG help which is all that matters right now

CP3 - Parker
Green - Simmons
Kawhi - GR3
Thad - Lee
Gasol - Patton

Mills - Young
Ellis - Stephenson
PG - Miles
Aldridge - Allen
Turner - Jefferson

17 May 2017 06:31:37
I mean Pacers aren't giving up that much for Aldridge so I think they'd do it but I'm not sure he is enough to keep George.

Spurs need to make changes and re-tool since even with Kawhi the team as currently built simply doesn't match up well against Golden State. I think this is a solid return, not fantastic but solid.

17 May 2017 13:07:45
I like this for the pacers.
No idea wh San Antonio would do this.

But i'm a pacers fan, so :-) :-)

17 May 2017 13:54:40
If I'm the Pacers, I do that in a heartbeat. I think Aldridge has proven he's not a superstar, but he's still a very productive player. You match him with George and Turner, and you have one of the top frontcourts in the league.

16 May 2017 07:44:26
Raptors Trade: Demarre Carroll
Bruno Cabouclo

Spurs Trade: Danny Green

Carroll and Green both on 10 million dollars contacts. They both kinda need a new change in scenery. Raptors get their 3pt perimeter shooter of the bench, and the Spurs get a backup SF in Carroll behind Simmons and Leonard. Bruno Caboclo a wild card talent to sweeten the deal as Green>Carroll.

16 May 2017 14:34:19
Check the numbers, Carroll is on a much bigger contract ($14.8M for 17-18) than Green. Caboclo has no value, and the Spurs need help at the PG and PF/ C spots, not another SF to back up Leonard. Bad trade for the Spurs.

16 May 2017 14:55:38
Agrew with Triangle. If they trade Green, it would be for cheaper players/ picks to open up cap space or a pg or combo guard. Who knows when/ if Parker will be back and how well he'll beable to play if he does. Manu may retire and really can't be a primary ball handler any more. They need someone who can create shots other than Leonard and I don't think that guy is on the roster right now. Carroll is another 3 and D guy. Pop has a knack for creating those out of athletic 2nd round picks. Why take on that contract for a slightly worse player than Green and guy who can't even crack an NBA rotation right now?

12 May 2017 15:17:57
Spurs

1. SAS - MIN

SAS get: Ricky Rubio and MIN 1st DP 2017

MIN get: Lamarcus Aldridge and SAS 1st DP 2017

2. Retire: Manu and Tony Parker

3. Draft: Frank Ntilikina

4. Free Agents:
- Serge Ibaka
- Zaza Pachulia

5. Hire Tony Parker as an assistant coach to mentor Ntilikina

2017 - 18

pg. Rubio/ Ntilikina
sg. Green/ Anderson
sf. Leonard/ Bertans
pf. Ibaka/ Lee
c. Gasol/ Pachulia

12 May 2017 16:16:00
I think the trade is good if Parker is actually retiring. If the Spurs are going to continue to play isolation with Leonard, I don't think LMA fits in as well as a guy like Ibaka.

That said, it seems like Serge has gone down hill quickly, there's got to be someone else the Spurs could consider. Maybe Johnathon Issac with the pick, and retain Patti Mills instead.

12 May 2017 16:44:29
Don't see Twolves being interested in Aldridge especially when they give up Rubio in the process since Dunn proved this year he isn't ready to be a starter.

Spurs would be wise to try and dump Aldridges contract in order to gain some assets and free up cap space to go after a FA.

12 May 2017 03:16:10
SAS - MIN - LAL

SAS get: Ricky Rubio and Julius Randle
Retire: Parker and Ginobli

Pg. Rubio
Sg. Green
Sf. Leonard
Pf. Randle
C. Gasol

MIN get: Lamarcus Aldridge

Pg. Dunn
Sg. LaVine
Sf. Wiggins
Pf. Aldridge
C. Towns

LAL get: MIN 2017 1st DP, SAS 2017 1st DP,
Draft: Lonzo Ball and Johnathan Isaac

Pg. Clarkson/ Ball
Sg. Russell
Sf. Ingram
Pf. Deng/ Isaac
C. Zubac

12 May 2017 04:31:46
A lottery pick and another 1st for Randle? That's insane. Not to mention that return for Aldridge is terrible.

12 May 2017 05:19:42
I think if the Spurs traded Aldridge, it would be to sign a free agent.

10 May 2017 21:22:14
Spurs-Pacers

Spurs get Thad Young, Kevin Seraphin, #18 pick, and a future 2nd
-Save money to chase a free agent and move up in draft

Pacers get Lamarcus Aldridge and #29 pick.

10 May 2017 21:53:08
I'm on the fence. It's pretty good, but I feel like the Spurs should a little more. How about Indy throws in Robinson and the Spurs put in Forbes or their second.

11 May 2017 09:10:41
i would take this in a second as a pacersfan.

09 May 2017 21:30:33
Spurs-Hornets

Spurs get Marvin Williams, Jeremy Lamb, and #11 pick

Hornets get Lamarcus Aldridge, #29 pick, rights to Olivier Hanlan, and a future 2nd.

10 May 2017 00:07:46
This frees up cap space for the Spurs to go after a big name free agent. The addition of Lamb makes Simmons expendable so there's no need to re-sign him.

10 May 2017 01:08:37
I could only imagine Spurs doing something like this if they already had a verbal commitment from a top FA like Chris Paul and were trying to free cap space. But even then they'd probably bring in a 3rd team to move the #11 pick and get a more ready to contribute piece.

10 May 2017 02:16:14
Spurs won't sell low on Aldridge.

10 May 2017 05:27:28
Agree with Jaw that it only makes sense if they are trying to clear cap space and I still don't see them adding picks or euro players to Aldridge. I agree that most winning teams would probably rather have established players than a lottery pick, but with the way the Spurs draft and develop talent I could see them keeping it.

09 May 2017 15:19:18
Spurs Rebuild to Stay a Contender

1. SAS - DEN

SAS get: Kenneth Faried and Danilo Galonari

DEN get: Lamarucs Aldridge and SAS 2017 1st DP

Retire:
- Tony Parker
- Manu Ginobli

Re-Sign:
- Patty Mills
- Jonathan Simmons

Free Agents:
- Derrick Rose
- Zaza Pachulia
- Nikola Mirotic

2017 - 18

pg. Rose/ Mills
sg. Leonard/ Green/ Simmons
sf. Galonari/ Anderson
pf. Faried/ Mirotic/ Lee
c. Gasol/ Pachulia/ Dedmon

09 May 2017 16:33:51
Please no Rose, he doesn't fit with the Spurs at all.

Regardless on that, the increase in salary from the Denver trade offsets the Parker retirement and Aldridge contracts. Once Mills and Simmons are re-signed, there's no room for any of those FA's unless they're willing to take an exception.

09 May 2017 20:43:34
I don't see Parker retiring yet unless he just can't recover from his injury.

05 May 2017 22:37:00
Spurs/ Nuggets

To SAS - Faried, Barton

To DEN - LMA

Leonard is now the focal point of the offense, and because of that, Aldridge looks lost. Denver is looking for some star power, and though LMA isn't as sexy as Blake, he's healthier and cheaper. He would play well along side Jokic, who is good playing on the interior while LMA sitting closer to the basket.

Manimal is a good low usage rebounder and hustle guy while Barton would either be a nice replacement for Manu if he retires, or a starting two guard if the Spurs move Green.

02 May 2017 17:43:46
MUST HAPPEN TRADE

San Antonio - Afflalo (waive), Tolliver (waive), Kyle O'Quinn (backup C)

New York - Tony Parker, Pau Gasol (must opt-in), Rodney McGruder

Miami - Carmelo

Sacramento - Bosh and 2017 1st round pick from Miami

San Antonio saves $24 million so they can sign Chris Paul.

New York drafts Frank Ntilkina (Phil Jackson is not afraid to draft foreign prospects). Tony Parker can mentor Ntilkina (both french) and Gasol (former Jackson player) can mentor Hernangomez (both Spanish). Knicks will not be contenders next season so they can use these veterans to help build up their youth. And then after next season, their big salaries will be off the books. Mcgruder is also a young player is a nice piece to sweeten the deal.

Miami gets Carmelo, who would be happy to waive his no trade clause. Miami now has a big 3 of dragic, Anthony, and whiteside. They also have some solid young guys in winslow, tyler Johnson, and Richardson. And most importantly, they get rid of bosh's contract. I believe this team is capable of making the conference finals.

Sacramento absorbs bosh's contract for 2 years during their rebuild but they get another lottery pick (giving them 3 this year). Kings make this move and trust the process of stockpiling assets.

02 May 2017 20:08:20
I think Miami and Sacramento would probably jump at this. I think NY would definitely do it, even if it just puts butts in the seats. The holdback I have is San Antonio. I really don't see Pop moving Parker unless he asks, and even with Paul a possibility, I'm not sure if he would move those two guys for him. It might make total basketball sense as Paul and O'Quinn probably fit the rest of that squad better. but I just don't see him making that move. This is one of the few "complex" trades out there that actually makes some sense though.

02 May 2017 20:31:46
I understand the reservations Pop may have in dealing Parker who has grown up before his eyes and been his starting pg for past 15+ seasonss but the playoffs thus far have shown Spurs need to do something if they want to stay competitive. Adding Paul who is still the best pure point guard in the league would be a very good compliment to Leonard and hopefully would lead LA to be a more consistent contributor. If Paul is truly interested in going to SA then I think its too difficult to say no to him. I could see Pop saying no if it were a player of a lower caliber or different style but we are speaking of Chris Paul who appears to be the last great traditional, pass first pg who was made for Pops system.

At 35 and numbers that are near all-time lows for him maybe Parker considers retirement (his days as a starter are nearing an end but he seems to have a few years left in him) . A bit of a stretch but it would be a way for him to go out a Spur and help Pop make this complicated decision.

02 May 2017 03:28:47
Spurs create cap space for CP3.

Spurs/ Pacers

To IND - Tony Parker

To SAS - Glenn Robinson III

with Teague becoming an FA, adding Parker on an expiring deal at $15M both keeps the team competitive, and should George leave via in-season trade or FA next summer, the Pacers are not tied to Parker and can rebuild with the space.

Spurs take Robinson, who will make $13M less than Parker, and give them more shooting.

Spurs/ Bulls

To CHI - Green, 2017 1st round pick

To SAS - Valentine

Bulls need outside shooting, which Green supplies. His $10M contract is less than what the Bulls would pay on the open market for a shooter, and Green is also a very good wing defender. The 1st is included to entice the Bulls to give up Valentine, and take on the additional $8M of salary in this deal.

$21M saved, plus the $10-$12M they'll have to spend lands them CP3.

02 May 2017 04:29:51
I think Pacers may need more and Bulls probably wouldn't need as much (green if perfect role player and Valentine has hardly cracked that rotation) but in general I like the idea. CP3 would be perfect fit for Spurs culture and Paul and Pop are a match made in heaven. Kawhi Leonard could very much use the help and hopefully adding Paul will help Aldridge to get closer to the dominant force he was in Portland.

02 May 2017 05:43:05
Pick is going the wrong way in CHI trade.

02 May 2017 08:54:16
This is a nice plan B for Indy.

02 May 2017 14:37:30
Parker's not going anywhere unless he asks. Pop may be many things, but loyal has to be at the top of the list.

01 May 2017 08:12:18
After exiting PO i think Clippers are blowing everything up. don't think anyone will resign.

Paul signs with Spurs, Spurs would have to get rid of Parker.

Griffin signs with Thunder or Bulls if both find cap space. Timberwolves are the best destination for him IMO, young core and in 2 years when they develop contending team.

Reddick would fit great with NOLA but they would have to get rid of those terrible contracts (Hill, Asik, Moore). I can see him signing for 76ers also.

Jordan gets traded to Celtics for Clippers pick (which will probably end up being a lottery pick if they blew it all up) and Rozier and right to Abdel Nader.

01 May 2017 16:10:42
Why would they leave? Chris paul loves LA and everything that comes with it. Heck he went to the oscars 2 hours after a game about a month ago.

Blake is having his 2nd kid with his girlfriend who is from LA and went to USC. He's not going anywhere. Redick could leave but it would be because the clippers don't want him anymore.

01 May 2017 16:49:28
Its obvious why they would leave; because that Clippers group has only disappointed since being assembled and there is no clear route to them improving themselves (they've had basically same roster for past few years with only changes a few veterans) with them having traded a fair number of their draft picks already.

As top athletes and competitors I'm sure they'd like to spend the rest of their careers on a team that gives them a chance at a title. They can always move back to LA once they retire if they enjoy it so much. Moving with kids isn't as big of a hassle if its during the summer when they aren't in school (and young) .

The Clippers 2019 pick the Celtics have is 1-14 protected so it isn't that valuable and eventually turns into a 2nd rounder in 2022. Jordan would be a great pickup for Celtics but they'd need to give up more than a pick which would likely equate to a 2nd rounder if Clippers blew things up.

30 Apr 2017 19:54:36
For sixers fans ... see this

Phila / Alfarouq Aminu - Shabazz Napier - Alan Williams

Portland / TJ McConell - TJ Warren - Richaun Holmes - Shaw Long

Suns / Ed Davis - Robert Covington - Jared Bayless

He does not do anything wrong these changes to the teams ...

Malik Monk is selected on the 4 pick

Gordon Hayward signed (maybe 70 x 3 years)

Phila / Nick Staukas

Spurs / Dwayne Dedmon

How was this equipment?

Ben Simmons / Sergio Rodriguez / Napier
Gerald Henderson / MALIK MONK
Gordon Hayward / Justin Anderson
D. Saric / Al Farouq Aminu / Alan Williams
Joel Embiid / Jahlil Okafor / Dedmon

30 Apr 2017 20:18:55
Not horrible. But just take out that last trade. Stauskas and Dedmon are both free agents and plus Dedmon is now too good to be a 3rd string.

30 Apr 2017 21:25:58
I just don't think Hayward would sign in Phili. Maybe if Embiid had played all season and Phili had won 35-40 games and maybe squeaked into the playoffs, but with the health concerns of Embiid and Simmons, I can't see a free agent signing there without being overpaid.

30 Apr 2017 23:21:23
Well then you put Al Farouq Aminu from Aero to Okafor from AP and Dedmon on the bench as first option to Embiid . Dedmon would be very well if you get it is very athletic defends with much intensity would serve much to the sixers its intensity.

01 May 2017 00:24:28
Why would Suns do this? Giving up two young guys in Williams and Warren for low upside guys who won't help them too much.

01 May 2017 16:06:10
types like Bayless and Ed Davis to help grow young suns and Covington brings points immediately if you choose than indicated in the draft, I think this operation can succeed. ed davis and bayless to help grow a Booker, Marchese Chriss, Derrick Jones, Dragan Bender and Len Alex and have to choose well in the Draft, perhaps a SF as Jayson Tatum - Josh Jackson - Jonathan Isaac.

29 Apr 2017 16:55:28
Spurs offseason moves to win a title

-Trade Tony Parker to Denver for Jameer Nelson

-Manu Ginobli retires

•Draft:
29- Tyler Lydon (Syracuse)

•Free Agency:
-Sign Chris Paul to whatever they have or he wants
-Re-sign Pau Gasol 2yr 20m
-Re-sign Dewayne Dedmon 2yr 16m
-Re-sign David Lee 1yr 7m
-Re-sign Jonathan Simmons 3yr 35m
-Bring over Nikola Mutinov

Lineup:
PG: Paul, Murray, Nelson
SG: Green, Simmons, Forbes
SF: Leonard, Anderson, Bertans
PF: Aldridge, Lee, Lydon
C: Dedmon, Gasol, Mutinov.

29 Apr 2017 17:17:59
Why would Denver want to take on Parker's contract?

29 Apr 2017 17:26:54
Why not? He could be a great veteran to help the young ones. If not Denver, then San Antonio could dump him to another team.

29 Apr 2017 18:43:29
The guy has been steadily declining the past 3 years and will make almost 16 million next year. He's looked solid so far in the playoffs, but why would a young team want to wrap up a bunch of cap space in Tony Parker? He's not even a top 20 pg any more.

29 Apr 2017 20:38:15
Parker is declining for sure, but he still has value. I could see the Knicks wanting him if they don't land a guard in the draft.

27 Apr 2017 21:07:29
Griffin walks & CP3 walks.

Paul signs w/ Spurs

Spurs:

PG: Paul
SG: Green
SF: Leonard
PF: Gasol
C: Aldridge

27 Apr 2017 23:34:59
Spurs will need to create quite a bit of cap space, they've only got $10M available this offseason as it stands now. That said, Paul to Spurs seems realistic.

27 Apr 2017 23:36:07
Mills might be more reliable.

28 Apr 2017 13:42:07
Mills would be more healthy, but I wouldn't say more reliable.

27 Apr 2017 13:09:06
What should happen with Paul george?

1) Pacers give him a 200 M dollar contract.

2A) trade to Boston for the Nets pick.

2B) Trade to LA for Ingram and the LA pick

3)trade dealine trade with Washington for O Porter+ future draft picks

4)Sign with the Spurs or LA in free agency?

27 Apr 2017 13:42:36
I mean if he makes an all-NBA team Pacers should try and sign him. If they are able to sign him they should keep him. If he doesn't make an all-NBA team they need to trade him unless his outlook changes significantly. I'd take LA pick (assuming they get this years pick) and Ingram over the nets pick but I think Celtics would give a stronger offer than just that. Pacers should ultimately deal him for the best offer which likely comes from LA or Boston.

As far as what George should do I think Boston is a more clear route to being a contender however I think Lakers have more upside (and more risk) since its where he grew up and his childhood team that he could be the "hero" of to move them out of post-Kobe era . It's risky because it's contingent upon Lakers acquiring talent they don't have yet.

27 Apr 2017 14:28:57
The price for George would be less for the Lakers since he wants to be there anyway so LA would not need him to commit long-term right away. The Celtics would need that guarantee, though; they don't need him on a one-year rental in which all he does is plays to avoid getting hurt.

27 Apr 2017 18:23:55
Actually supercollider, you are again, wrong. The price would be higher for the lakers because they know that he will sign an extension if he goes there. There is no guarentee he will sign if not traded there, but a trade there drastically increases his long term prospects there.

amazing how you are almost always completely wrong. well played.

27 Apr 2017 18:38:00
The price for George will be MAX. Butler would be cheaper for an additional year vs George which gives the C's flexibility .

I would rather trade for Butler and Drummond. Trade IT, Bradley, and Crowder and use Rozier and Smart at 1 2.

27 Apr 2017 19:56:28
Billj, that would be a huge mistake. If you're going to move all three of IT Bradley and Crowder, you're not going to do it for Butler and Drummond. That would mean you're all in on the future INSTEAD of the present, which would make Drummond and Butler a waste. Adding Butler or Drummond using the Nets picks to most of that current core would be a move for now, sacrificing the future. I'm all about what they're working on now. both the present AND the future. You can look to add one of those guys or Hayward. or George. and still keep most of the picks intact.

27 Apr 2017 20:08:37
Hamburger. price would be less because Lakers have leverage if Paul wants to be there.

27 Apr 2017 20:22:31
The lakers really don't have that much leverage. George isn't going to sit out. He's not going to voice his intents to go to LA. If the lakers want him this offseason, they would definitely have to pay full market value. They're not getting him on the cheap.

I think Boston would definitely pay market value too. He might want to play for the lakers, but if they add him to that roster and win a ring, what are the chances he walks away from that? Pretty low.

27 Apr 2017 21:59:45
Sox, if they sign Hayward they have to pay him max which leaves no room, If they trade for Butler that leaves room (23mil_ for 2 yrs before they have to pay him what they'd pay Hayward. They still need a legit big man. It could be Zizic, or it could be an established guy like Drummond with Zizic coming of the bench. Having IT and Bradley coming up as UFA after next year hurts so having Butler and Drummond on board with Horford gives them the Big 3 for a few years. In less than a month we'll know more for sure on what's going to happen for the future. If they don't trade that Nets pick this year they are going to waste getting Horford. IT is good but you can get a 1st rd for him to make up for what they lost and Rozier would be a good replacement. Ainge's biggest mistake was not getting a big at the deadline. If the Warriors don't win maybe KD will leave and go to Boston.

28 Apr 2017 15:12:32
Nope tombrady. Absolutely wrong. He isn't considered a likely rental at that point. Especially if the Lakers can obtain benefits of being the resigning team instead of a new signing team (unsure if they are included with him) value for the lakers is far more than other franchises. You offer no reasoning as to why. Just go nope. He worth less.

You are wrong. Supercollider is wrong. And if you doubt that, wait and see the ransom the pacers get if he is traded to the Lakers. My guess. Ingram, first this year, and maybe another top prospect. Just a guess.

29 Apr 2017 02:03:58
Chicago isn't trading butler they already said it he's not being traded celtic fans are almost as bad as laker fans thinking they'll get every superstar in the off season😂.

 
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