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11 Oct 2018 09:40:29
Jazz Trade Joe Ingles Grayson Allen 2019 first round pick

Wolves Trade Jimmy Butler

Second Trade

Jazz Trade Jae Crowder 2019 second round pick (unprotected) to Magic

Magic Trade Johnathan Simmons to Jazz

Jae & Jimmy used to be teammates in college and they can't play together or be same teams

11 Oct 2018 11:17:41
Why can they not MD? Is there history between the two?

Crowder is a hustle guy, seems like he would be a player that Butler would like to play with.

11 Oct 2018 01:56:48
Jazz Trade Joe Ingles Jae Crowder Grayson Allen 2019 first round pick

Wolves Trade Jimmy Butler

11 Oct 2018 07:46:34
Way too much for the Jazz.

11 Oct 2018 13:08:10
Replace Ingles with Burks and it’s not bad. Minnesota is in a terrible position right now.

10 Oct 2018 21:10:59
List of possible trades that have Dewayne Dedmon at their center.

1) Atlanta sends D. Dedmon, Washington sends Jason Smith (the second player could be ether Thomas Bryant or Jodie Meeks), Washington would also send a lottery protected first (2020 or 2021) or two future second round picks.

Money transfer Atlanta would take 6,828,242 with Bryant or 8,904,500 with Meeks. Washington would take 7,200,000
Pros Atlanta gain assets
Pros Washington gain a much better center could would be the immediate backup center behind Dwight as well as one who can stretch the floor

2) Atlanta sends D. Dedmon, Utah sends Ekpe Udoh and Tabo Sefolosha (you could also swap Sefolosha for Raul Neto or replace ether with a trade exception (Joe Johnson)) Utah would also send two future seconds

Pros Atlanta gains assets
Pros Utah gains a good backup to Gobert

3)Atlanta sends D. Dedmon, New Orleans sends Alex Ajinca as well as a future first round and future second with the first being ether lottery protected or top 10

Atlanta receives 5,285,394 (NOP can add an exception) New Orleans receives 7,200,000
Pros Atlanta gains assets
Pros New Orleans receives and good center they could start if they wanted (but would probably be a good backup)

4) Atlanta sends D. Dedmon, Houston sends Nene with a second being one of three Bruno Caboclo, MCW, or Trade exception, they would also send a future first and second

Pros Atlanta gains assets
Pros Houston gains a good backup behind Capela as well as one who can stretch the floor

5) Atlanta sends D. Dedmon, Portland send Miles Leonard and future first and second

Atlanta receives 10,595,506, Portland receives 7,200,000
Pros Atlanta gains assets
Pros Portland gains a backup center

10 Oct 2018 14:31:24
SAS-UTH-CLE

SAS- rubio/ lance/ korver
CLE- mills/ burks/ forbes/ pondexter/ 2rd from sas and utah
UTH- hill/ betrans.

10 Oct 2018 15:56:00
I don’t see why Utah does this. They just end up with an older and at this point, probably worse pg.

The Cavs would really have to like Forbes to do this. They could easily turn Korver into a 2nd and probably do it with another teams trade except or an expiring, Hill could be used as a big expiring to get assets, Burks is basically done, and Mills is an overpaid back up point with 3 years left.

10 Oct 2018 20:15:39
Wasnt hill on jazz and they let him go like 2 years ago?

11 Oct 2018 00:51:12
Yes he was. He went to Sacramento and they paid him 20 mil a season. That went well.

09 Oct 2018 21:01:19
Hornets receive: Derrick Favors, Ricky Rubio, Dante Exum, Alec Burks, Jazz 2019 first-round pick, and Wizards 2021 second-round pick

Jazz receive: Kemba Walker, Nicholas Batum, and Marvin Williams

10 Oct 2018 04:32:07
utah has a good thing going. shouldn’t dismantle it for potentially one year of kemba and bad contracts.

08 Oct 2018 00:30:25
Utah gets Butler

Minnesota gets Burks, Sefolosha, Allen, Utah 19 1st and a 2nd

08 Oct 2018 04:55:15
I think butler could win in Utah but I do t think he would stay.

08 Oct 2018 16:27:38
I have to agree with Btec, Utah could be really dangerous with Butler, but getting him to stay is the issue. A lineup of Mitchell, Butler, Ingles, Favors and Gobert with quality vets like Rubio and Crowder would be a top three seed and potentially the Warriors biggest threat in the West.

09 Oct 2018 00:18:38
It seems like he needs to be surrounded by like minded players and Utah’s team kind of fits that. He might be happy getting to play with guys that seem just as intense as he is. Plus, it’s hard to leave a good team and if they could get him for something like the package above it would probably be worth the gamble.

27 Sep 2018 09:01:36
3 Teams Trade UTAH/MAGIC/WOLVES

Wolves get Joe Ingles Jerian Grant Timofey Mozgov 2019 first round pick (UTAH)

Jazz get Evan Fournier Johnathan Issac 2019 second round pick (ORL) 2020 second round pick (MIN) unprotected

Magic get Jimmy Butler Tyus Jones Gorgui Dieng 2019 second round pick (MIN)

Win-Win both teams

27 Sep 2018 11:30:49
Except Minnesota. They don't win.

27 Sep 2018 12:18:15
Getting mozgov in a trade is winning? Remind me not to play that game.

27 Sep 2018 17:00:27
I like Joe Ingles, but he can't be the centerpiece of a Butler deal.

27 Sep 2018 17:11:39
@btec i'd say getting mosgov and a 1st for dieng is a win. mosgov has one less year on his deal.

27 Sep 2018 17:44:15
That's true Don. So Mozgov, Dieng, the second rounder, and the first are even from Minny's perspective.

That means you get Ingles and Grant for Butler and Jones. That's a bad deal for the Wolves.

27 Sep 2018 17:50:55
Mozgov and a 1st for Dieng is an absolute win!

26 Sep 2018 22:12:01
Jazz Trade Dante Exum Jae Crowder 2019 first round pick unprotected or lottery protected

Wolves Trade Jimmy Butler

Fair Trades Win-Win both teams

26 Sep 2018 23:42:16
How is this a win for Minnesota? Exum is overpaid and can't shoot. Crowder is a nice role player, but more like a 7 or 8 man off the bench.

26 Sep 2018 23:50:47
I think Exum might not be able to be traded, but the Jazz are capable of making a trade, perhaps Joe Ingles instead, and the salaries match better too. Not sure if the Jazz would be willing to give up a future 1 round pick, since they're a small market their picks mean more to them as they have to rely on drafting well.

27 Sep 2018 00:12:15
I don't see the win for the twolves. Exum could be good but Crowder is out fo their window and a "meh" first round pick i don't see it.

27 Sep 2018 00:57:40
Exum can't be traded until December and the Twolves look to be trading Butler asap.

15 Sep 2018 21:50:25
Suns get - Rubio

- Gets perfect pass-first defensive PG to pair w Booker

Clippers get - Warren

- Gets much needed forward depth. Harris is expiring and Gallo is injury prone

Jazz get - Beverley, Marjanovic, and Suns 2019 2nd

- Gets 3 and D PG to go alongside Mitchell as he needs to be primary ball handler & a good backup C

Rubio
Booker
Jackson
Ariza
Ayton

Gilgeous-Alexander
Bradley
Gallo or Warren
Harris
Harrell

Beverley
Mitchell
Ingles
Favors or Crowder
Gobert

15 Sep 2018 23:07:48
When has rubio known for being great defense. He looks great behind gobert. He plays the passing and is risk taker for steals. Great passer 1st.

16 Sep 2018 02:37:44
Perfect example of only looking at stats. Rubio gets high steals at the risk of giving up points by being too aggressive. He’s actually bad at defense. Agree with shizzee.

16 Sep 2018 05:48:27
Pretty good trade all around. I think Utah passes. They like Rubio and Beverly is not better so they do not want to make a change unless they get an upgrade at PG. Marjanovic and Suns 2nd are not enough to move the needle.

16 Sep 2018 15:00:32
To me Rubio play solid defense he not perfect but better then Walker and Thomas plus many others who are better players then him.

17 Sep 2018 16:11:53
Rubio had no effect on/ off for defense. Walker had a positive defensive impact. And thomas is the only other comparison you give, who is literally the worst defender in the league?

Good one again.

14 Sep 2018 20:47:16
*Jazz get: PG Goran Dragic
*Heat get: PG Ricky Rubio, SG Grayson Allen, 2020 2nd Round Pick, 2021 2nd Round Pick

14 Sep 2018 22:14:15
That is way to much for dragic

15 Sep 2018 23:16:19
Too much for Dragic. Rubio is just as good, Jazz don't do this deal.

02 Sep 2018 20:27:30
Jazz Trade Ricky Rubio 2019 second round pick unprotected

Bucks Trade Eric Bledsoe

Point Guard Swap

03 Sep 2018 04:20:21
Why do jazz do it?

03 Sep 2018 06:11:19
Utah want to get better.

03 Sep 2018 22:48:34
Yes they do. So why do they do it? Bledsoe has shown nothing besides constantly injured.

02 Sep 2018 05:27:07
What's if Magic Drafted Dennis Smith Jr instead of Johnathan Issac
In 2017 re NBA draft
Magic Trade Elfrid Payton DJ Augustin 2017 second round pick 2018 second round pick to Nuggets for Donovan Mitchell Before Utah Jazz

Starting line up
Smith/
Mitchell/
Gordon/
Biymobo/
Vucevic/

02 Sep 2018 13:43:00
Still an awful team. But great. Let’s do hindsight drafting for all teams.

02 Sep 2018 14:42:11
If you like sports doing a draft hind sight for every team would be fun. Just see how many teams messed up. Recently I think the Cavs, well since drafting triston Thompson they did horrible drafting all the way to Sexton. Wiggins don't count though cause he never played for Cavs.

02 Sep 2018 18:51:22
Bennett count? They wanted a number 1.

31 Aug 2018 23:22:36
UTAH/CHI

UTA get Bobby Portis & Justin Holiday
-add players that can contribute to their cause especially Portis who adds depth to their front court

Pg Rubio/Exum/Neto
Sg Mitchell/Holiday/Allen
Sf Ingles/Oneale/Sefolosha
Pf Favors/Crowder
Ce Gobert/Portis/Udoh

CHI get Alec Burks (exp) & top 16 protected 1st round pick
-unload one of their bigs but gain a pick back

Pg Dunn/Blakeney/Payne
Sg LaVine/Burks
Sf Parker/Valentine
Pf Markannen/Carter Jr
Ce Lopez/Felicio/Asik

30 Aug 2018 00:22:27
Nets-Bucks-Jazz

Nets: Burks, 2nd rd pick Bucks

Bucks: Carroll

Jazz: Henson

Nets gain a 2nd by trading expiring contract to another

Pg Russell-Napier
Sg Dinwiddie-LeVert-Burks
Sf Crabbe-Harris
Pf RHJ-Faried-Dudley
Ce Allen-Davis

Bucks get a 3 and D player with an expiring contract

Pg Bledsoe-Dellavedova
Sg Middleton-Brogdon
Sf Carroll-Snell
Pf Giannis-Wilson
Ce Lopez-Maker

Jazz need a back up center

Pg Rubio-Exum-Neto
Sg Mitchell-Allen
Sf Crowder-Oneale
Pf Ingles-Favors
Ce Gobert-Henson

30 Aug 2018 02:04:42
Why would the Jazz want to take on a fairly bad contract for a player they don’t really need? Favors can eat up the back up Center minutes for them.

30 Aug 2018 05:02:57
Nets won't take on future salary without a 1st.

22 Aug 2018 09:58:49
UTA-MIN

UTA: Jimmy Butler
MIN: Jae Crowder, Alec Burks & 1st round pick 2019 + swap 2021 1st round pick & 2nd rd pick 2020

JAZZ
Rubio-Exum
Mitchell
Butler-Oneal
Ingles
Gobert-Favors

WOLVES
Teague-Jones
Wiggins-Rose
Crowder-Burks
Gibson
Towns

22 Aug 2018 11:52:43
Unless butler resigns Utah gets screwed.

22 Aug 2018 19:34:27
Great deal for Utah, even if only for one season. Minnesota says NO.

15 Aug 2018 19:35:06
Hornets-Jazz

Hornets- Rubio,Allen,2 2nd's

Jazz- Kemba Kamisky

Jazz get a big upgrade at guard whie trying to compete

Hornets get rubio who they can flip for a young piece later and a good prospect to pair with monk in the backcourt

15 Aug 2018 19:55:24
That’s awful for the Hornets.

15 Aug 2018 21:56:48
Rubio is better fit for Jazz than Kemba

12 Aug 2018 01:40:02
Simple Trade -- NBA Trade Machine Approved

DEN/ OKC/ UTAH

Denver gets Nader from OKC

Oklahoma City gets Crowder from Utah

Utah gets Abrines from OKC and Hernangomez from Denver.


OKC stretch Singler and waive him.

12 Aug 2018 18:09:45
Utah says no.

13 Aug 2018 01:41:47
okcfan your name fits the direction of this trade.

11 Aug 2018 22:59:36
Jazz get - Hill and Korver

Cavs get - Warren Burks(exp) Chandler (exp) and Chriss

Suns get - Rubio

Hill/Exum
Mitchell/Allen
Ingles/Korver
Crowder/Favors
Gobert/Udoh

Sexton/Clarkson
Osman/Smith
Warren/Dekker
Love/Nance
Thompson/Chriss

Rubio/Knight
Booker/Daniels
Jackson/Bridges
Ariza/Bender
Ayton/Holmes

12 Aug 2018 00:44:13
I think PHX values Warren and Chris's to highly to include them both, along with a solid vet presence in Chandler to mentor Ayton, for Rubio. Suns say NO.

12 Aug 2018 02:27:42
I like the trade but i think Warren has more value.

12 Aug 2018 04:08:38
Delusional cavs fan lmao. Why would jazz do this. Why would cavs get warren and chriss for george and korver. Smh.

12 Aug 2018 19:10:40
The jazz would never do this. Rubio was fantastic for the jazz and George hill is obviously not fantastic and Korver is over the hill, and Utah has ingles, sefololosha, crowder already to play the 3.

10 Aug 2018 04:38:26
SAC - UTA

Kings receive: Crowder, Udoh
Jazz receive: Labissiere, Koufos, future 2nd rounder

SAC
Fox / Ferrell / Mason
Hield / Bogdanovic / Shumpert
Crowder / Jackson
Bagley / Bjelica / Randolph
Cauley-Stein / Giles / Udoh / Davis

UTA
Rubio / Exum / Neto
Mitchell / Burks / Allen
Ingles / O'Neale / Sefolosha
Favors / Labissiere / Niang
Gobert / Koufos / Bradley

Kings fill SF hole with a good contract, even though Crowder's numbers dipped a bit last year. Koufos' departure opens up minutes for Giles. They buy out McLemore.

The Jazz lose Crowder's versatility, but they get more depth at PF & C positions this year. They also free up around $6 mil in cap space for next off-season. Labissiere seems like a good fit, and will become a restricted free agent at the end of Favors' current contract.

10 Aug 2018 06:10:19
I don't think the jazz would do it.

08 Aug 2018 19:20:49
What about this as a deadline deal?

The Cavs get Burks, Exum, Allen and a 1st depending on how Love is plus filler

The Jazz get Love and Korver

The Jazz add a lot of offense to team with a ton of defense and give the team the potential to get deep in the playoffs.

The Cavs get young talent and clear cap space. It's probably the best way they can go either way, but probably the only way to go if they're out of the playoffs at that point.

08 Aug 2018 19:46:59
I do like the fit of Love in Utah next to Gobert. Seems like decent value for an all star in Love. I could definitely see it happening. That would push Utah into the status of a top 3 team in the west to me (maybe even close to even with Houston) .

08 Aug 2018 19:53:41
Love costs too much and wouldn't improve their team enough to justify the expense.

09 Aug 2018 00:03:51
If salaries match who is Utah trading that would stop this trade@btec the only name I see is exum worth much that first is late and the rest is garbage I’m pretty sure they would take Love and korver.

 
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