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09 Aug 2019 17:27:59
Nuggets - Warriors - TWolves - Wizards

Warriors have depth issues. Nuggets need another star. Wizards need to cash in on Beal. TWolves need to mix it up.

Warriors trade D'Angelo Russsll
Warriors receive Gary Harris and Robert Covington

Nuggets trade Gary Harris, Malik Beasley, Michael Porter Jr, and a 2022 First round pick
Nuggets receive Bradley Beal

Wizards Trade Beal, mahinmi
Wizards receive Andrew Wiggins, Malik Beasley, Michael Porter Jr, Gorgui Dieng, 2022 First Round pick via Denver, and 2020 first round pick via Minnesota (Top 5 protected)

TWolves trade Wiggins, Covington, Dieng, 2020 1st
TWolves receive D'angelo Russell and Ian Mahinmi


GS adds solid pieces that are signed long term. Nuggets add a star that could put them over the top. TWolves get a good young pg to pair with towns and free up a lot of cap space for the 2020 offseason. Wizards get 3 young players with potential. Washington might as well roll the dice on Wiggins since they're paying wall already. The TWolves pick will most likely be in the lottery this year.

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26 Jun 2019 16:24:36
Jimmy Butler S/T to Houston

Houston trades Capela and Gordon
Houston receives Jimmy Butler

76ers trade Jimmy Butler via sign and trade
76ers receive Gordon and Gallinari

Clippers trade Gallinari
Clippers receive Capela


Daryl morey gets his target (Jimmy). 76ers add two solid rotational pieces and both have expiring contracts so Philly can maintain cap space for when Ben Simmons' rookie max extension goes into effect. The clippers exchange an expiring contract for a proven young center signed for the next several years.

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25 Jul 2018 04:23:50
Rockets trade Anderson
Lakers trade Deng

A swap of bad contracts

2 players on similar $ value contracts with 2 years remaining on both.

Lakers add more shooting around Lebron.
Rockets get a 3 and D player who could potentially replace some of what Ariza did.

1088jonesp

1.) 25 Jul 2018 04:34:44
Anderson can still play and Deng is done. Houston passes.


2.) 25 Jul 2018 05:30:29
How do we actually know deng can't play? Just because the last time he played (two seasons ago) he wasn't in his peak doesn't mean he literally has nothing to show. A whole year of rest basically, honestly I wouldn't put it past him to give a team 15 minutes of decent basketball a night.


3.) 25 Jul 2018 06:26:52
The Lakers weren’t tanking last year and wanted to get rid of Deng. If he could still play that would have made any Deng trade mode palatable for the team he was going to. Channing Frye played some once he got there and they had no reason to give him a minute at that point.


4.) 25 Jul 2018 14:59:59
The Lakers weren’t tanking, but they were in a situation in which they wanted to give the young kids minutes. That is the most likely reason Deng did not play, not that he has absolutely nothing left in the tank.

That said, I agree that Anderson most likely has quite a bit more, so no from the Rockets.


 

 

19 May 2018 04:40:49
Once the news came out that there may be tensions between towns and Minnesota, I had to make a hypothetical trade scenario. I see towns being a great fit in Boston. Here's what I propose:

T-wolves trade: Towns, Aldrich
T wolves receive: Brown, Turner, Yabusele, 2019 LAC 1st

Pacers trade: Turner, Young, and Joseph
Pacers receive: Rozier, Maker, Henson, and Morris

Celtics trade: Brown, Rozier, Horford, Yabusele, Morris, 2019 LAC 1st
Celtics receive: Towns, Young, Snell, Joseph, Aldrich (waive)

Bucks trade: Henson, Snell, and Maker
Bucks receive: Horford


What do people think?

1088jonesp

1.) 19 May 2018 05:04:35
Minnesota would need that Sacramento pick plus maybe the Memphis pick to even listen.


2.) 19 May 2018 05:16:14
Horford is like Henson and Maker, A PF that plays Center, Except, Henson is 6'11" and Maker is 7'1", while Horford is 6'9" maybe 6'10". (Oddly enough, Horfords father "Tito Horford" did play for the Bucks at one time) Now, Why would Milwaukee trade two PF/ C, plus a SG to get back One PF/ C? I'm sorry, It just seems like a bad trade for all teams involved.


3.) 19 May 2018 05:45:19
@carl006, if Minnesota insists then the pick could be changed to the SAC 2019 pick. However, I don't believe they need both picks if Brown and Turner are included.

@torque hardbar, because Horford is an all star center and way better than both Maker and Henson right now. One of the Bucks biggest problem last year was creating offense in the half court set. Horford would help tremendously in this area because he is one of the few 5's you can actually run an offense through. Also, he is a former player of Bud's so he could be incorporated into the offense seamlessly.


4.) 19 May 2018 06:17:28
agree the pick would have to be sac. kat will likely be a top 10 player soon.


5.) 19 May 2018 12:21:56
@1088jonesp, I believe Milwaukee would go another direction, and go after D. Jordan from the Clippers. Horford might be an all star, But I don't believe he is the answer for the Buck's. Milwaukee does need to move Henson, Dellavedova, and their contracts! Snell has been a let down as has Bledsoe. Horfords game is more offense, than defense. Bigger Center's always push him around. The Bucks need a Center, that doesn't need the ball, Is a very good rebounder (The Bucks were 30th in the league in rebounding) Can protect the rim, and can get his own shot. I don't think Horford fits that need.


6.) 19 May 2018 12:38:41
Torque, while Jordan is clearly the better rebounder, Horford has been the better defender over the past 2 or 3 years. Horford will probably end up in the top 5 for dpoy.


7.) 19 May 2018 12:59:43
rkeene, I would still rather have Jordan, than Horford. I can't see Horford in the top 5 for dpoy. I'm sorry. Since Milwaukee has a New coach now, Hard to tell what he is thinking?


8.) 19 May 2018 15:16:37
Yeah Horford deserves to be in the top 5 Dpoy.


9.) 19 May 2018 16:03:12
@torque hardbar, you said the bucks need a center who can get his own shot and you claim Jordan is the solution for that. That's hilarious. Jordan has to have one of the worst post games I've ever seen. Spacing was a huge issue for the Bucks last year and I think Jordan would only add to this problem. This is why I think Horford is a better fit for the Bucks. He is a great leader who can anchor the team on offensive and defensive. He doesn't need the ball to be effective. He can be a spot up shooter, set off ball screens for his teammates, or make a play off the dribble. He is a very diverse player and he can mend his game to fit any team. I think the Bucks should go sign Ed Davis or some other cheap, efficient rebounder to address their rebounding need.

I also believe Bud is a great coach and he will clean up a lot of the problems that plagued the Bucks last year. I expect a top 4 finish for them this year.


10.) 19 May 2018 17:04:56
@1088jonesp, I would go with Jordan, I didn't hear of to many back to back 20 RPG with Horford? Plus, he's to small by todays standards, If Horford is such a great leader, Why was he traded? As far as adding Ed Davis or? for rebounding, Why get 2 players to do the job that one should be doing? I do agree about Budenholzer, Hopefully he can start by moving "Henson, Parker, Dellevedova, Maker, Bledsoe, and J. Terry! " No one knows what D. J. Wilson can do, he spent more time in their "G" league, than on the floor with the Buck's. Milwaukee needs a legit Center, a decent PG (Put Brogdan back there) a decent backup SF, Muhhamad?

Thoughts?


11.) 19 May 2018 23:01:20
@torque so why’s Horford still in the playoffs fighting for a championship? Everything you say is just so stupid!


12.) 19 May 2018 23:17:47
Why would the celtics trade horford you ask? Well if you had to choose between a soon to be 32 year old and a 22 year old potential MVP then it's a pretty easy choice. The Bucks don't have enough assets to get Towns without decimating the rest of the squad so Horford is a good cheaper option.

I'm going to have to disagree with you on Jordan in Milwaukee. Teams can nullify Jordan's impact by going under all of his screens knowing the fact that neither Bledsoe nor Giannis is an outside threat. Also, Jordan is an overrrated rim protector. He had less than a block a game last year. Horford's outside shooting and playmaking skills could give the Bucks another dimension.

I agree with you in that the Bucks need to get rid of the deadweight. Too much wasted cap in dellavedova and Henson. I don't like Muhammad though. He's a defensive liability and isn't a legit 3pt threat. Bucks need to cut their ties with him.


 

 

08 May 2018 04:33:29
Even though the Cavs stomped the raptors, they still don't have a legitimate chance against the Rockets or Warriors in the finals. In order to make a more competitive roster, this is what I think they should do. Add more versatile defenders, get more shooters, and add an athletic rim protector. These 3 characteristics are what make the Rockets and Warriors so good.

First Trade
Cavs trade: Kevin Love, Clarkson
Cavs receive: Schroeder, Covington, Bayless, and 19th pick

76ers trade: Covington, Bayless, Holmes, 10th pick, 24th Pick
76ers receive: McCollum

Trailblazers trade: McCollum, Turner
Trailblazers receive: Love, Clarkson, Holmes

Hawks trade: Schroeder, 19th Pick
Hawks receive: Osman, Turner, 10th pick, 24th pick
Why? Cavs get a pg who can get some easy buckets and create plays for his teammates when Lebron is out. They also add a good 3 and D in Covington.

Second Trade
Cavs trade: Thompson
Raptors trade: Ibaka
Why? Ibaka is more athletic, a better rim protector, and can shoot the 3. Raptors save money and change it up.

Third Trade
Cavs trade: JR Smith, Bayless, 8th pick, 19th pick
Clippers trade: Beverley, Harris
Why? The two teams pretty much exchange expiring contracts (however Smith is guaranteed about $4 million in 2019-2020). Jerry West acquires 2 more 1st round picks (to bring the total to 4). LAC begins a full-fledged rebuild.

Fourth trade
Cavs trade: Hill
Suns trade: Chandler
Why? Suns get a solid point guard to hold them over a year or two. Cavs get a veteran big who could be good for a few bench minutes.

Fifth trade
Cavs trade: Nance
Nets trade: Dinwiddie
Why? Nets have too many guards. Cavs get a versatile defender and alternative playmaker.

FINAL CAVS Depth Chart
Schroeder, Dinwiddie
Covington, Beverley
Harris, Korver
Lebron, Green
Ibaka, Chandler

This is only one of many different possible starting lineups. The defensive potential of this team is much higher than the current cavs squad. It could use a few more bench shooters, but overall I think its a better team than the 2017-2018 cavs.

What does everybody think?

1088jonesp

1.) 08 May 2018 12:42:12
Trades a good clippers one I thought was bad but it’s aftually pretty good.


2.) 08 May 2018 15:35:18
This post is so long and obviously fantastical and unrealistic. However, even with that. I just want to make two points. Beyond the fact that no team every does this much action.

Schroeder is legit one of the worst 3 point shooters in the league. What you need with lebron is shooters, not an severely undersized pg who chucks it a lot at an ineffective rate, and you have him as a starter.

Second, Ibaka isn't a center. You are basing his value off Ibaka from OKC. He is no where near the same player as he was. he's too small to cover big centers and he is not nearly as effective as many others. This seems like you essentially get rid of talent for lesser talent. Its just a dumb post.


3.) 08 May 2018 21:10:24
Hamburger, there is not one player (besides lebron) on the cavs who can make a play off the dribble for themselves or somebody else. That's why they've struggled so much this year without Kyrie. Maybe Schroeder isn't the ideal fit for the team because of his shooting deficiencies but he gives them something they need at a reasonable cost. Secondly, I'm curious who do you think the cavs should try to get at center?


 

 

 

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17 Jan 2019 20:25:00
All things considered (age, contract, current play), who is more valuable, Andrew Wiggins or Gordon Hayward?

1088jonesp

1.) 17 Jan 2019 21:28:00
I'd rather have Hayward. Contracts are similar enough that it's a wash. They've both been in the league long enough that youth isn't helping value, Wiggins isn't getting considerably better. Hayward just feels like a more team oriented player that is willing to accept just about any role. Not sure about that with Wiggins, seems like he wants to be a star, even if he's not good enough to be one.


2.) 18 Jan 2019 00:01:40
Hayward is much better defender can see him slowly getting back to himself Wiggins is super talented but he switches off in a lot of games.


3.) 18 Jan 2019 23:22:36
He is absolutely not returning to himself. He just isn’t a negative beyond the fact he drains the cap. Wiggins sucks. Offensively. Defensively. As a teammate.


 

 

19 Dec 2018 14:38:48
What type of contracts will these free agents get in the offseason? And what is their most likely team? I see all these guys as potential flight risks due to the reasons listed below.

D'Angelo Russell? Nets already have Caris Levert and Spencer Dinwiddie signed and playing quality minutes at the guard positions. Brooklyn also appears to be a big 2019 free agent destination.

Tobias Harris? Clippers appear to be a major free agent player in the 2019 offseason. Tobias is having a career year but I believe he'll take a backseat in the Clippers offseason plans if Kawhi Leonard, Jimmy Butler, or Kyrie Irving show interest.

Nikola Mirotic? Mirotic is having a career year and looks to be a great compliment to Anthony Davis. However, the pelicans are not in the best situation financially and if someone throws Mirotic $20 million per year, how can he say no?

Nikola Vucevic? Vucevic is putting up career highs in nearly every statistical category but the Magic have a surplus of young, frontcourt players. It looks inevitable that he'll be an all star this year. Can the magic really just let him walk for free?

Willie Cauley-Stein? WCS is having a solid year. He doesn't appear to be a dominant force on either the offensive or defensive end. However, his athleticism and mobility make him valuable as a modern NBA 5. He bodes well in both offensive and defensive pick and roll situations. Do the Kings retain him in their already crowded front court?

Enes Kanter? Kanter is doing what he always has. He is putting up double digit points and rebounds efficiently. However, his defense is still lackluster. With Mitchell Robinson playing good basketball and the knicks being a potential free agent destination in 2019, will the knicks pay Kanter what he asks for?

1088jonesp

1.) 19 Dec 2018 15:44:53
Russell should get something like 4 years 70 million I'd guess. I'd be surprised if the Nets didn't match any offersheet he gets. Maybe he gets one from Atlanta or Orlando?

Harris will absolutely get a max deal. My guess is that the Clippers land someone (maybe Butler or Leonard, maybe Cousins? ), and then max out Harris. Indy could be interesting as well (I think they have cap space, correct me if I'm wrong) .

Mirotic seems right. 18-22 million from NO.

Vucevic should get a bit more than an MLE. Something similar to what Nurkic got (4 years, 42 million) . I really hope he gets out of Orlando to a team that can actually win some games, he deserves better teammates at some point in his career.

WCS probably get a similar contract to that too, 10-13 a year. I see him being matched by Sacramento.

Kanter gets a min contract, maybe mini-MLE. He's the worst defender in the NBA and simply can't be a starter on a competent team. (Who knows, maybe a really dumb team overpays him to start for them, but that would be a huge mistake)


2.) 21 Dec 2018 09:49:45
A smart team adds vuc and Mirotic for the same price on a big name.


 

 

05 Apr 2018 03:26:48
There is a lot of moving pieces in the following trades but this is what I hope to see in the 2018-2019 season.

TRADE # 1

76ers trade: Covington, Saric, Bayless, 10th pick, and 23rd pick
76ers receive: Kawhi Leonard

Spurs trade: Kawhi, Gay, Paul
Spurs receive: Kevin Love, Wesley Johnson, 10th pick, 14th pick

Cavs trade: Love, Korver
Cavs receive: Saric, Harris, Bayless, Marjanovic, 23rd pick

Clippers trade: Harris, Johnson, Marjanovic, 14th pick (via detroit)
Clippers receive: Covington, Korver, Gay, Paul (waive)

TRADE # 2
Cavs trade: Lebron James
Clippers trade: Gallinari, unguaranteed contracts (buy some around the league like the rockets did in the Chris Paul trade last summer), 12th pick

WHY?

76ers get a superstar and maintain cap room for more signings.

Spurs get an all star who fits nicely with the team. Love is a good passer and an excellent 3pt shooter. Pop could also help Love rediscover his post game. Two lottery picks is an added incentive to part ways with Leonard.

Cavs initiate a rebuild. Get two young guys in saric and harris and two first round draft picks. They take on a few bad contracts but only for a couple years.

Now for the clippers. Jerry West builds a championship caliber team with Lebron as the centerpiece. Deandre can be convinced to opt-in. He would be a better paint protector and lob threat than Nance or Thompson. Gay, Covington, and Beverley would be great 3 and D players to mesh with Lebron. Louis Williams is one of the best 6th mans there is. Austin Rivers is a solid, athletic combo guard. Lebron brings along Korver, a knockdown shooter. I also think lebron would love teodosic's court vision and passing ability. They could also add a couple cheap veterans to fill out the roster. I believe this team would be able to compete with most western teams because it has elite defensive capabilities, which is something Lebron's teams have lacked in the past.


Please comment on what you think. I would love to talk about this.

1088jonesp

1.) 05 Apr 2018 06:47:19
I don't see the Spurs dealing for older players if Kawhi goes. This looks under value to me.


 

 

 

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04 Aug 2019 05:28:15
The hawks gave up a lot to get hunter. While this return is of decent value, I don't see them selling Hunter before he has even played. On the other hand, I don't see the nets giving up all that for someone who hasn't proven anything yet. Right now, Harris and Allen seem to be good pieces on a championship contender.

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28 Jul 2019 21:22:29
This is awful for the hawks and magic.

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27 Jul 2019 07:56:45
Solomon hill is on the grizzlies.

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25 Jul 2019 18:05:41
No way OKC would do it straight up considering AD's desire to play in a big market and only 1 year remaining on his deal.

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27 Jun 2019 23:54:42
I posted the same thing minus the pick just over 24 hours ago.

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