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13 Jun 2019 22:43:29
Lakers Get: Anthony Davis
Bulls Get: Pick #4, Solomomn Hill
Pelicans Get: Zach Lavine, Brandon Ingram, Lonzo Ball, LA 2020 1st Rd, 2021 LA 1st Rd
LA gets there guy
Bulls grab Garland at 4 and still have pick #7 to add another piece
Pelicans get 3 young starters and multiple picks (I understand they won't be all that high)
1.) 13 Jun 2019 23:54:26
Use lube on the pelicans. Geez.
2.) 14 Jun 2019 00:47:55
So pels get 2 late first rounds a broken pg and guy with clots? Btw can't trade firsts back to back years.
3.) 14 Jun 2019 01:40:20
Lakers can't trade consecutive year first round picks. It would have to be #4, 2021 and 2023.
Also, you think Lavine + taking S. Hill's expiring salary = #4 pick? Please refresh my memory. What did Chicago give up to get Lavine?
05 Jun 2019 22:32:08
Memphis Gets: Pick #3, Jrue Holliday
Knicks Get: Anthony Davis, Mike Conley
Pelicans Get: Pick #2, Kevin Knox, Dennis Smith Jr., Mitchell Robinson, Mavericks 2021 pick
If Memphis is iffy on Ja Morant this is an idea to dump Conely's contract as well.
Rip it apart boys
1.) 06 Jun 2019 00:21:13
Those Knicks players hold little value.
2.) 06 Jun 2019 00:24:47
If ny get davis, they are going to bring Durant and Irving not conley. I take morant over holiday barrett and zion.
3.) 06 Jun 2019 05:39:29
Shizzee. Stephen A. Smith says Kyrie to Brooklyn. LOL.
4.) 06 Jun 2019 18:37:44
Pelicans need picks 2 and 3 and others involved.
5.) 07 Jun 2019 23:54:25
Trying to figure out how a Knick package thst is barely enough to get AD also gets the Knicks Conley as well.
Badically what you are saying is Jrue Holiday is only worth moving up from #3 to #2? AD is going to cost the Knicks all those players, #3 Pick and (at least) a future 1st.
18 Jun 2017 15:02:42
Bulls Get: Lakers 2018 1st rd, Grizzles 2018 1st rd (top 12 protected), Crowder, Rozier
Celtics Get: Jimmy Butler
Celtics depth:
IT/Smart
Bradley/Brown
Butler/Jackson
Horford/Jerebko
Johnson/Olynk
*still have brooklyn 2018 pick
1.) 18 Jun 2017 17:40:29
Jerebko, Johnson, will not be back and KO might depending on what happens in the next few weeks.
2.) 19 Jun 2017 00:03:56
Not enough.
15 Jun 2017 00:05:00
Just a thought:
Cavs Get: Paul George,
Thunder Get: Kevin Love
Pacers Get: Alex Abrines, Jerami Grant, 2017 #21 (From thunder),
I understand that Indiana is getting absolutely fleeced in this scenario. However, I think for any trade of PG13 to happen its going to require Geroge going to the FO and saying "trade me to team xyz or I'm opting out and you lose me for nothing".
If not something similar to this, what do you guys think Cleveland's going to do?
1.) 15 Jun 2017 02:12:07
I think OKC would rather have Thad Young.
2.) 15 Jun 2017 03:15:50
If Cleveland has a chance to get Paul George for Kevin Love straight up. They are going to take it! Cleveland loves Kevin and what he brings but they aren't dumb either. They know PG13 is better.
3.) 15 Jun 2017 04:31:05
While the Pacers may not have much leverage, there is no way they take that deal. Even in a gun to the head scenario, they'll get more for George.
4.) 15 Jun 2017 06:12:48
If that package can get George, Thunder would just take him straight from IND. And would gladly involve Oladipo or Sabonis lol.
30 Mar 2017 14:25:42
Haven't been exactly up to date with my NBA this year but thought this might be interesting. But I know how this site goes so tear me apart.
Bucks Get: Lavine
T-Wolves Get: Parker
1.) 30 Mar 2017 15:16:57
I believe Parker's ceiling is higher than Z Lavine. So the Bucks say no. Also Giannis need shooters, who can spread the floor and can play off the ball.
I Like this trade for Minny, Parker could play power Forward next to KAT.
2.) 30 Mar 2017 17:49:06
I wouldn't give up on parker just yet.
3.) 30 Mar 2017 18:16:40
With middleton coming back strong, i think bucks pass on lavine and keep parker.
4.) 30 Mar 2017 19:00:34
Is Lavine that ball dominant of a guard? I've only seen him in a handful of games this year.
Trillhouse, do you guys have room for a depressed bulls fan on the bandwagon for the next 4-7 years?
5.) 30 Mar 2017 19:19:21
I'd take Lavine over Parker. 1 ACL is 100x more valuable than 2. Parker also doesn't fit with the Bucks. I love him, but his style of play hurts the Bucks. Maybe that will change since he will be a different player after he's healthy once again, but who knows. Bucks are just fine without him... best record in the NBA since he's been out.
6.) 30 Mar 2017 20:25:05
I think Bucks should explore trade of Parker, he's a good player but not really a good fit. Also hasn't really developed at all on the defensive side.
7.) 30 Mar 2017 20:41:03
Both players healthy, I like the deal. Like Bucks said above though, 2 ACL's is much harder to swallow than one.
8.) 31 Mar 2017 23:44:48
How about J. Parker, from the Bucks to the Lakers for B. Ingram? Salaries match, and Lakers need A "GO-TO-GUY" which Ingram is not. Plus they could Parkers go to the rim, and explosiveness which Ingram also doesn't have. The Bucks would get a long SF, moving Giannis A. to PF (6'11") and use Ingram at SF, Moving Middleton back to SG Milwaukee would be very long, and Ingram would be of more use with a Giannis, Middleton, Brogdan around him! Just a thought!
9.) 01 Apr 2017 02:43:17
Ingram hasn't shown enough yet to warrant a straight up trade for Parker, and that Bucks interior defense with Giannis playing the four could be ugly. Maybe Ingram and Nance.
10.) 02 Apr 2017 01:59:45
@tombrady, Agreed, Maybe send J. Parker to the Lakers for B. Ingram. Salaries match, and the Lakers need a go-to-guy, which Ingram is not. The Bucks could use a shooter in Ingram. Leave Giannis A. where he is currently playing at PF, Put Ingram in at SF, move Middleton back to SG. Their new lineup would be; Maker (C) , Giannis A.(PF) Ingram, (SF), Middleton,(SG) and Brogdan (PG) The Lakers would start Invac? (C) Randall (PF) J. Parker (SF) Clarke (SG) and Russell (PG)
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12 Jun 2017 22:53:55
You get $15 to make the best possible starting 5 for ONE year:
$8- Lebron James
$5- Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, Russell Westbrook, Kawahi, Anthony Davis, James Harden
$4- Chris Paul, Giannis, Paul George, John Wall, Jimmy Butler, IT, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green. Kyrie Irving
$3- Damian Lillard, Rudy Gobert, DeMar DeRozan, KAT, Kyle Lowry, Mike Conley, DeMarcus Cousins, Kevin Love
$2- Marc Gasol, Blake Griffin, CJ McCollum, Paul Milsap, Bradley Beal, LaMarcus Aldridge, George Hill
$1- Al Horford, Kemba Walker, WHiteside, Jokic, Eric Bledsoe, Devin Booker
1.) 13 Jun 2017 01:12:55
$8 is too much for Lebron lol.
2.) 13 Jun 2017 01:18:57
Pg- Westbrook $5
Sg- Klay Thompson $4
Sf- Demarcus derozan $3
Pf- Paul Millsap $2
C- Whiteside $1
I don't like this because I'd rather have Gordon Hayward or someone at small forward.
3.) 13 Jun 2017 02:16:14
$3 Gobert $2 Milsapp $5 Leonard (assuming any one else is 1) $1 Avery Bradley $4 Paul.
4.) 13 Jun 2017 02:46:49
Jokic booker Kat durant curry.
5.) 13 Jun 2017 08:10:09
Give me Conley ($3), Any 3 and D sg (Bradley, Green, Mathews, KCP, etc for $1), Kawhi ($5), Durant ($5), Whiteside ($1).
Durant and Kawhi two of best two way players in NBA, Conley is also one of best two way point guards in NBA. Whiteside is a defensive force and danger on the boards and with shooters all around him his limited offensive game isn't as big an issue. With Kawhi and Durant the focal points of offense with Conley as a facilitator and Whiteside setting screens and crashing boards just need someone who can keep defense honest and not be a liability on the defensive end to complete the lineup. If looking for more size I'd slide Kawhi to sg and Durant to sf then put Porzingis at the 4.
6.) 13 Jun 2017 09:52:16
Conley $3
Beal $2
Durant $5
Millsap $2
Gasol $2
6th man Iguodala $1
A lot of 2 way players which is what I'm about.
7.) 13 Jun 2017 13:44:13
@NBA, can't believe I forgot Heyward! My Bad.
I got:
Conley-3
Beal-2
KD-5
Giannis-4
Horford-1.
8.) 13 Jun 2017 14:23:58
Durant kawhi whiteside Giannis. That's 15. Then porzingis for free.
Gianni's - pg
Kawhi - sg
Durant - sf
Porzingis - pf
Whiteside - c
Unbeatable and huge.
9.) 13 Jun 2017 15:13:12
PG: Lillard
SG: Butler
SF: Leonard
PF: Griffin
C: Whiteside.
10.) 14 Jun 2017 02:03:44
PG-Curry $5
SG-Booker $1
SF-Leonard $5
PF-Towns $3
C-Whiteside $1.
27 Apr 2017 04:05:40
Can we talk about D-Wade?
Yes I am a bulls fan and he's been god awful this series and pretty much quit on this team (can you blame him?) so I have a bias. But is he really a first ballot HOF'er?
All 3 of his titles have come with HOF'ers in their prime on his team. Not just any Hall of Famers, but Shaq and LeBron. Arguably 2 top 10 player of all time. LeBron is probably already top 5 if not top 3.
To be clear I think he's had a phenomenal career and probably deserves to be in the HOF. But he's no first ballot IMO.
Do I have a point or am I way off?
1.) 27 Apr 2017 14:07:39
Jordan won his with pippen
James won his Wade and Irving
Kobe won his with Shaq and Gasol
I don't think just because he won rings with shaq and LeBron will not make him a first ballot. I think he's a lock for it.
2.) 27 Apr 2017 18:31:04
Right. And that's true of many superstars however all the guys you named were first options on their championship teams (with maybe an exception to kobe getting his first) .
Not sure wade has ever been the number one option on a championship team (You could maybe argue his first with Shaq, maybe? ) . He hasn't won a playoff series without a hall of fame player on his roster.
3.) 28 Apr 2017 04:44:33
How many sgs do you definitely take over Wade without an argument in history? Jordan for sure, Kobe. Then there are a bunch you could probably argue, but none that are no question better than Wade. I'd say that he's first ballot.
4.) 28 Apr 2017 16:44:26
He did win a playoff series last year with being the first option on a team that didn't have many other options. Whiteside wasn't all that great and played off the bench at times. And Dragic couldn't play well with Wade.
5.) 29 Apr 2017 15:36:07
Wade averaged 27/ 7/ 6 that year. Shaw was 20/ 9. There is no argument to be made. He was the 1st option.
Lebron never won until he got with wade. Ever though lebron had better stats, everyone knows the first option of that team as wade. Lebron was never a prime time player. Always fading away. A long range jump shot instead of a drive when it counted the most.
Yes lebron has gotten a bit better. But when you look at those heat championships, it was because the heat got lebron. It was because lebron got wade.
13 Apr 2017 19:59:09
Celtics Fans,
Assuming you guys end up getting the 1st or 2nd pick, what do you want Danny Ainge to do with it?
Any chance of drafting Lonzo or Fultz and trying to shop IT? Do you trade it for an established vet? Or is Josh Jackson worth a top 2 pick in your opinion?
1.) 13 Apr 2017 23:41:27
What about trading Nets '17 and '18 picks, their '18 pick, Zeller, Yabusele, Rozier, and some other guys plus some more future second rounders for George and Turner?
2.) 14 Apr 2017 00:56:29
Not a Celtics fan or Danny Ainge but if I was I think if Celtics get #1 pick things are pretty clear, draft Fultz and take a swing at Hayward or Griffin if they test FA. I think most teams would select him with #1 pick anyway (he has size to play sg too) so don't think much trade value is lost once he is selected. From there you can see what teams offer for IT and Fultz respectively and if the right offer arises jump on it. I'd let how Fultz looks (and more importantly acts) early on in games, practice, weight room, etc. dictate my direction.
If Celtics get the 2nd pick (21.5% chance) I think they'd have to more seriously consider trading the pick. I think Ball and Jackson will be great pros but I don't think they have the generational upside that Fultz has. It obviously depends on what teams are willing to give up but given the Celtics rich history and that they are already the #1 seed in the east I'd prefer to deal it to get an all-star caliber player who could help them now and make the a contender for the foreseeable future.
3.) 14 Apr 2017 22:41:34
I agree with Jaw, if the pick lands at 2 or 3 then trade it with Bradley and other assets for Jimmy Butler.
4.) 15 Apr 2017 13:42:48
Im trying to think of teams that would match up well for an it trade. T-wolves? Bucks? Lakers?
Would be really interesting.
09 Nov 2016 13:51:50
ESPN's #NBArank is out for 2016:
Who are some players on YOUR team that you feel are over or underrated?
For me:
Overrated: Nikola Mirotic at 95
-"Stretch 4" who can't get grab boards and shoots 35% from down town for his career
-Defense is so lack luster he can't be on the floor more than a 6 min stretch
- Best move is a pump fake, drive and look for a foul
Underrated: Taj Gibson at 96
-Dude has been giving 25-30 quality mins off the bench since 2011
-Can effectively defend the 4 or 5
-He can play with other bigs well without sacrificing spacing or defense because of his ability to switch on guards and hit an outside shot.
1.) 09 Nov 2016 15:34:20
I firmly agree with u.
07 Jul 2016 02:47:49
Okay, I'm sorry guys but here we go again:
Dwayne Wade? Are you kidding me? Dwayne wade is a great player and a future HOF but where was this signing when we had a coach and a roster?
Why remodel the seats on the Titanic?
Total marketing move.
Rondo, Wade and Butler on the floor at the same time? This will be the worst spacing in the league.
Gar/ Pax need to go. Second worst FO to Sac.
1.) 07 Jul 2016 03:52:28
Definitely a marketing move. They get two big names past their prime on short deals. It may elevate them to a playoff team again but doesn't turn them into a contender. Buts that in that awful middle ground of mediocrity. Also wastes two years of Jimmy Butler since these deals won't allow them to put the necessary pieces around him that can help him contend while he is in his prime.
I guess its not terrible since I thought they should trade Butler and hit the reset anyway. Now they'll be able to make money and sell tickets for two years while giving fans some hope and the illusion that they are competitive. After that when Butler will have 1 yr and a player option left (which he'll almost certainly decline) they can try and move him for young pieces.
I can understand why the front office did it since otherwise they were just looking at a rebuild and with the Warriors forming a super team for likely next 4 years it may be better to be mediocre but not terrible for two years and make money then start the inevitable rebuild 2 years from now so by the time the young guys they get start developing the Warriors will be on their way down.
2.) 07 Jul 2016 18:49:23
Not a bad last paragraph there. That's what I've been saying. No one can touch the Warriors, cavs got lucky this year that golden state flopped, got injured or what ever. But golden state is best team in the league and will be for another half decade. In the meantime, bulls might as well rebuild starting with this up and coming draft. They could have easily trade Jimmy for the Nets picks and young assets and sucked them selves to get a good stash of great young talent through the draft.
3.) 07 Jul 2016 23:33:26
The spacing isn't too bad. Wade and Butler aren't the greatest 3 point shooter, but they can hit the 3 if left wide open. Their offense should be pick and roll and back door cuts. I expect a lot of movement without the ball.
18 Jun 2017 22:30:13
Wow that's a high value for Butler. If we got Brown and just ONE of the brooklyn picks I'd be doing cartwheels.
22 Apr 2017 18:55:59
Whether he could or couldn't get Rivers for melo is a trite point (although i stand by the fact that I've heard he couldn't) . The point is that Melo does not get you back a 1st.
Phil has told the world he doesn't want him, his contract is high, and he's on the wrong side of 30. The Knicks have no leverage what so ever to bring back a 1st. Especially from a team like Chicago who needs every pick they can get.
22 Apr 2017 02:12:24
Wait hold up, you want rondo and a 1st for the worst contract in basketball and a player that your president literally couldn't get austin rivers for at the deadline? No thanks.
19 Apr 2017 14:22:58
I think thibs wants a vet at guard but not sure they land CP3. What about:
Celtics Get: PG13, Lavine
Pacers Get: Brooklyn 2018, T-wolves 1st, Zeller
T-Wolves Get: IT.
02 Apr 2017 22:43:41
If Ingram pans out to even 60% of his potential and they sign George. jeez. With Lonzo running point that would be fun to watch.
10 Jul 2017 21:32:23
Id put Houston and San Antonio in Tier 2 and Put OKC in Tier 3 with Boston.
23 Jun 2017 17:21:14
Do I wish we could've gotten more? Of course.
But if this was the best offer on the table, it was a deal they had to make. This was the most leverage they were ever going to posses in a trade for Jimmy, having 2 years left on his deal. Rebuilding was the right move.
Ill be the last person to defend Gar/ Pax believe me, and any other GM would've gotten that deal without giving up 16 (not sure Wiggins was ever on the table) . But in the big picture, this move wasn't the absolute worst thing they could've done. Not great, but at least we picked a direction.
13 Jun 2017 13:44:13
@NBA, can't believe I forgot Heyward! My Bad.
I got:
Conley-3
Beal-2
KD-5
Giannis-4
Horford-1.
27 Apr 2017 18:31:04
Right. And that's true of many superstars however all the guys you named were first options on their championship teams (with maybe an exception to kobe getting his first) .
Not sure wade has ever been the number one option on a championship team (You could maybe argue his first with Shaq, maybe? ) . He hasn't won a playoff series without a hall of fame player on his roster.
16 Apr 2017 15:51:48
Bulls fans: It can't get any worse than this.
Gar/ pax: Hold my beer.