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05 Nov 2021 01:08:56
3 team Cavs trade for Ayton
Phoenix receives
Sexton
Windler
Drummond
Reed
Cavs 2022 first round
Pick swap rights in 2023
Cavs 2024 first round pick
Philadelphia receives
Okoro
Kaminsky
2023 second round from warriors
2025 Cavs second round
Cavs receive
Ayton
Nadar
Joe
For some reason I don't know why but I'm starting to believe Ayton may be traded at the deadline if the Suns honestly feel like he's not a max contract player. I don't understand why the suns don't feel he worth that type of a contract unless they feel that they already spent enough on contract extensions with Bridges, Paul, and Shamet. Another theory I heard that there is a rule saying you can't have more than two max contract rookies extensions on your team Booker is one and Ayton would be two so that would stop them from acquiring a third young max extended player and the thought is the Suns don't know if Ayton worth the complete max deal in case another young star becomes available. I personal do think he's worth it but anyways this leads me to the trade.
Cavs acquire Ayton and why would they trade for another big? Because Ayton is a true nba star and proved it when the Suns played the Cavs and dominated both Allen and Mobley. Since the Cavs are already playing big, they might as well bring in one of the best young big men in the game and improve the big line up. Simply because he's a star and the Cavs want young talented stars on the team when they can't get any in free agency.
Why for Suns in this trade- they acquire a young guard in Sexton who I believe they will be able to extend for a cheaper contract than the max. Collin would be a great player to have as a 6th man for the Suns and has proven his ability this year to play more into the system and make plays for others. Also will take some of the pressure of his shoulders and allow him to be a piece of a really good young core and that is also including Windler and his shooting which will fit well with Paul and Booker. Drummond gives the Suns half the value of Ayton and his play but at a small fraction financially. Also they get the Cavs first which will most likely be late lottery this year unless Mobley accelerates his growth and they get the play in.
For the Sixers- Drummond has a few nagging injures and they played great without him so the need isn't there to keep Drummond. Kaminsky can add spacing while playing big and Okoro simply give them another young defensive wing and possibly long term piece to add to their defensive scheme that's been working well lately even without Ben. Also they get 2nds in return.
Overall I know this is highly unlikely but I do think Ayton may become available towards the deadline if talks don't progress with Ayton future contract and don't be surprised if the Cavs would be interested.
1.) 05 Nov 2021 01:38:23
Cavs don’t need to trade all of that for another big with Mobley Allen and Lauri under contract. If anything use that for a star guard/ wing.
2.) 05 Nov 2021 03:42:18
Cavs say no.
24 Oct 2020 00:08:55
Miami receives:
Sexton
Garland
2022 top 10 protected pick
Cavs receives:
Bam Adebayo
D. Robinson
Cavs do this because they are unsure on the Sexton and Garland backcourt. They believe each player will be good and Collin has been one of the most improved scorers the 2nd half of the short season and would give Butler a good second scorer for an extended period of time. Bams contract is expiring next season, with the Heat going after Giannis Antetokounmpo next offseason. Both Sexton and Garland are on friendly rookie contracts that will give Miami some good young players along with Herro to pitch at Giannis and along with Butler of course. Both Bam and Duncan will be looking for a pay day and Cleveland can't get to many players in free agency so they must look at trades to bring in the players they need. Cavs aren't afraid to overpay on players contracts so Bam would get his payday and Robinson as well.
PG-Exam/ Delly (vet min)
SG-Porter Jr/ Robinson/ Osman
SF-Love(guard pf on defensive)/ Nance Jr/ Windler
PF-Adebayo(guard sf while Love is sf)/ TT(resign 2yrs 36 mil)/Dean Wade/ Wiseman If he falls or Toppin
C-Drummond/ Bell
PG- Dragic(1yr 10-12mil)/ Garland
SG- Sexton/ Nunn
SF- Herro/ Iguodala/ Okpala
PF- Butler/ Favors(F.A.1yr 15 mil) Crowder (1 yr 10mil)/ Silva/ Haslem(1yr vet min if he wants to come back)
C- Olynyk/ Leonard(1yr 9mil)/ Vernon Carey or Pokusevski
Heat only doing 1yr deals to save room for Giannis
1.) 24 Oct 2020 00:26:08
That’s hilarious.
2.) 24 Oct 2020 00:30:18
Why would heat do this deal?
3.) 24 Oct 2020 01:21:51
I believe Miami's management values those 2 players much more than you do. They will have or will create whatever room is necessary to sign Giannis and keep Bam.
4.) 24 Oct 2020 03:04:22
You'll be punished.
25 Sep 2019 13:53:36
Cavs Thunder Houston
Cavs receive
Paul
Adams
Schroeder
Capela
Thunder receive
Knight
Henson
Nance Jr
Dellavedova
Tucker
Rockets receive
Love
2022 second round pick back from Cavs
2023 second round pick from Thunder
Trade two:
Cavs Wizards
Cavs receive
Wall
2020 second round pick from Chi or Memphis
2024 second round pick
Wizards receive
Thompson
Clarkson
Trade one Thunder get out of Paul's contract and give up expandable players like Adams and Schroeder who they tested the market for this past of season. While they also add expiring contracts and a good young player in Nance Jr.
Houston gets their third star to play with Westbrook and Harden. Love knows how to be the third option on a championship caliber team and the rockets get 2 seconds to their depleted draft stock.
Trade two: I believe this is the best the Wizards could get for Wall and his contract., Two good role players on expiring contracts and a replacement for Wall with Clarkson who could match his offensive production and Thompson would become the best Center they have after this trade.
I already know what people will say. Why bring in 3 guards when you already have Sexton and Garland and it's going to stunt their development. I disagree big time. Sexton and Garland will only learn from Paul, Wall and Schroeder and while Walls out the Cavs could play Paul and Sexton as the starters with Garland and Schroeder as the back ups. Paul could mentor Sexton and Schroeder could do that for Garland while on and off the floor. Then add the leadership of Wall and giving his insight. Then the amount that someone like Garland especially could absorb is maxed out. Frees up space for Porter Jr and Windler behind Osman. Also you have two dominant defensive big men in Capela and Adams starting. This team may not be a top 5 east team this year but next year with the development of the young core and chemistry built up, this is has potential to be a contenting team in the east. Better than what the Cavs could have for the next 4 years.
Cavs depth Chart
Paul/Garland/(Wall)
Sexton/Schroeder/Thornwell
Osman/Porter Jr/ Windler
Capela/Martin
Adams/Zizic
1.) 25 Sep 2019 14:11:46
Why would the Cavs do this? They get one player of value in Capela and they give up their best player to get two god awful contracts at pg and they end up with 4 pgs that should be or will want to start next season and 2 starting centers that can’t play another position. You just made a bad team with a ton of long term money on the books. The wall deal in particular is ridiculous. 2 2nds to take on that contract? I’d want 3 1sts to even consider it. Paul isn’t a mentor. By all accounts his teammates don’t like him and he’s hard to play with. Schroeder has been a head case and forced himself off a bad team already. Both guys are going to want out. Delly and Knight are both guys that are just happy to be on nba rosters collecting big checks and both can be mentors. Delly seems like one of the ultimate team guys and Knight has been on record talking about how Sexton and him have similar skill sets and that he can help Sexton develop. By the time Love was back, the locker room seemed to be in a good shape. Not to mention the Cavs would be in the luxury over this nonsensical abomination of a team.
2.) 25 Sep 2019 21:42:58
Haha I knew you would love this trade Rkenne. I understand this isn’t believable but I think the Cavs should look at it. The Cavs need more playmakers. I know that Garland could develop into the play maker but he isn’t ready to start and if they have Garland develop with the second unit and have either Sexton Or Schroeder beside him. The pressure wouldn’t be on him to produce and they would let the game come naturally to him. Paul and Schroeder attitude shouldn’t be a problem. Both would be more motivated after this trade to prove everyone wrong. Wall is already motivated with his injury. Capela and Adams are both young and yes centers but defensively they would be able to control the key area themselves. Also any team trying to deal with the size of Capela and Adams would struggle. Having both would mean more rebounds and thus opportunity for the speed of the guards to run the break or pull up from deep. Try contending the size down low then also match the speed of the three guards. Would be difficult to do. Gives the rookies more playing time as well so they could develop. Do they go into luxury yes. But giving time for this team to build chemistry would only help them. Cavs keep all the young developmental pieces in this trade as well. With the draft lottery even being a bottom 3 team doesn’t guarantee a good draft pick as we know so why not go for is and give the fans a reason to be excited except wait another few years and we may be good. I honesty do believe this team could contend next year once Wall returns but got to take a risk in Cleveland for them to have a chance as we know.
3.) 25 Sep 2019 22:03:20
If they could keep Love and get Paul, Roberson and Gallinari, then maybe you consider it. Then you flip Sexton for something. Wall is guy who’s game is largely predicated on him being athletic and he blew out his Achilles. He has a 4 year super max contract. It’s easily the worst contract in the league.
4.) 26 Sep 2019 02:34:16
Cavs have nothing of value for the Thunder other than picks. Why would the Thunder trade Adams, Paul, Gallinari, etc. For players that are worse than the Thunder's bench players?
5.) 26 Sep 2019 11:14:14
Paul and Schroeder both have negative value. A trade that let's you get off of them and isn’t sending out young talent is a win.
13 Jul 2019 02:50:17
The Whole Beal/Wall to Combo in trade got me thinking if the Cavs want go for it all.
First trade Cavs Wizards
Cavs receive
Wall
Beal
Wizards receive
Thompson(exp)
Henson(exp)
Clarkson(exp)
Nance Jr
Cavs 2023 first round pick
Second Trade
Cavs OKC
Cavs receive
Paul
OKC receives
Smith
Knight
Dellavedova
2022 second round pick
Cavs line up after trade (4 spots to fill)
PG Paul, Garland (Wall)
SG Beal, Sexton (Wanamaker 1yr min)
SF Osman, Porter Jr, Windler
PF Love (Faried 1yr 4mil)
C Zizic (Koufus 1yr Min) (Pachulia 1yr min)
Cavs take a chance and pick up 3 stars. Wall will give four stars and no better players for the young rooks to learn from. Free agents could be a lot better. Couldn't remember many left off the top of my head.
1.) 13 Jul 2019 16:34:19
In what world would a team be able to afford love, beal, paul, and wall?
2.) 13 Jul 2019 18:05:29
In a same world that a team is able to have Curry Russell Thompson and Green.
30 Jun 2019 17:04:47
4 team trade Cavs Spurs Wolves Wiz
Spurs receive
Clarkson (good vet off the bench)
Osman (good potential for Pop, his type of player)
Wiz receive
Dieng (better contract than Wall, 2 years left)
Knight (expiring)
Bertans (Good young talent)
Wolves receive
Henson (expiring)
Thompson (expiring)
Jr Smith (save 10 mill this year)
Cavs receive
Wall (wait for the return)
Wiggins (trust me wait)
Belinelli (expiring vet)
Spurs first round pick in 2020 (top 10 protected)
Wolves first round pick in 2020 (unprotected)
Wizards first round pick in 2022 (unprotected)
Wizards first round pick in 2024 (unprotected)
Wolves 2022 second round pick
Cavs absorb the huge contracts of Wall and Wiggins but gain 4 first round picks and 1 second. Great future and Cavs can build with Sexton, Garland, Wildner, Porter Jr, Zizic, Nance Jr.
Have the pieces now to contend. Love, Wiggins, Wall when he returns and can help mentor the young guys. Most of the young guys contracts aren't going to affect much for another 4 year when the Rooks deals run out except for Sexton in 3 years.
1.) 30 Jun 2019 17:22:04
Doubt Wizards do this. Better to just tank next year and then see what you got.
2.) 30 Jun 2019 17:32:08
Your probably right Friedman. Just an idea if the Wizards want to possibly keep Beal long term and build with him. This may give them a chance instead of just having no cap to do anything with next year.
3.) 30 Jun 2019 20:53:11
Is want more from the Wolves and Wizards. Those contracts are awful.
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18 Jan 2019 01:50:42
Cavs Mavs
Cavs receive
Smith Jr
Mavs receive
Hood
Nwaba
Cavs second round pick 2021
1.) 18 Jan 2019 23:19:15
Laughable that you think that junk gets you dsj.
17 Dec 2018 02:50:20
Cavs Pistons
Pistons receive
Thompson
Clarkson
Osman
Cavs receive
Drummond
Smith
1.) 18 Dec 2018 02:01:50
I’d be shocked if any team actually wants any of those Cavs players. Regardless of what you need to trade back. Let alone a young all star center. Please just stop.
02 Jul 2018 03:28:06
Does anyone think the Cavs will try and sign Kyrie next year offseason? I know they have Sexton but Cavs love to bring back their stars and Kyrie will have a chance to fully take over as the star without Lebron and Sexton as a running mate. Boston may not be his spot if he won't commit
1.) 02 Jul 2018 04:44:25
Irving wouldn't leave Celts for a ground floor rebuild.
2.) 02 Jul 2018 14:29:26
What does bringing Irving back to a roster influx really do for you? Kyrie is really good, but he couldn't do what Lebron did this year with that roster and it's going to take time to fix the roster. This is a 4 year rebuild at the minimum and if Gilbert tries to get cute and not blow it up all the way, we could be looking at a pretty dark next 10 years. Think the Magic or the Kings.
01 Mar 2018 04:47:06
Cavs need to sign someone to add to the roster. They wanted a buyout for a defensive big man but that doesn't seem likely. Tony Allen is still available and although he is a smaller guard type and Cavs have a ton of them, I still believe Allen veteranship and defensive presence and toughness would be a huge bolt that they need to compete with the top teams. Nothing like adding a 6x defensive all team player to help strengthen the Cavs weakest liability.
08 Feb 2018 14:17:58
Not serious about this but who says no?
Cavs Clippers Charlotte Sacramento
Clippers receive
Shumpert
Frye(7mil expiring)
Carter (8mil expiring)
2020 Kings first round pick
2021 Cavs first round pick
2020 miami second round pick from Cavs
Charlotte receives
George Hill
Thompson
Crowder
Korver
2018 Nets pick
Cavs receive
Howard
Batum
Walker
Bacon
Jordan
Sacramento receives
Jr Smith
Osman
Zizic
1.) 08 Feb 2018 15:40:44
The Kings definitely turn it down.
2.) 08 Feb 2018 16:23:24
CHA isn't trading Walker.
21 Jun 2021 21:29:37
Tribefan Bagley and a pick for Love… I would do this any day! Anything for Love we should do pretty much. Only a few rare cases. Knicks I don’t believe do it.
25 Sep 2019 21:42:58
Haha I knew you would love this trade Rkenne. I understand this isn’t believable but I think the Cavs should look at it. The Cavs need more playmakers. I know that Garland could develop into the play maker but he isn’t ready to start and if they have Garland develop with the second unit and have either Sexton Or Schroeder beside him. The pressure wouldn’t be on him to produce and they would let the game come naturally to him. Paul and Schroeder attitude shouldn’t be a problem. Both would be more motivated after this trade to prove everyone wrong. Wall is already motivated with his injury. Capela and Adams are both young and yes centers but defensively they would be able to control the key area themselves. Also any team trying to deal with the size of Capela and Adams would struggle. Having both would mean more rebounds and thus opportunity for the speed of the guards to run the break or pull up from deep. Try contending the size down low then also match the speed of the three guards. Would be difficult to do. Gives the rookies more playing time as well so they could develop. Do they go into luxury yes. But giving time for this team to build chemistry would only help them. Cavs keep all the young developmental pieces in this trade as well. With the draft lottery even being a bottom 3 team doesn’t guarantee a good draft pick as we know so why not go for is and give the fans a reason to be excited except wait another few years and we may be good. I honesty do believe this team could contend next year once Wall returns but got to take a risk in Cleveland for them to have a chance as we know.
13 Jul 2019 18:05:29
In a same world that a team is able to have Curry Russell Thompson and Green.
08 Jul 2019 02:03:05
Thunder would never. Can’t see them being that desperate unless Russell will only stay if they trade for Love which isn’t going to be a deciding factor.
07 Jul 2019 06:27:42
I don’t think it’s likely but I honestly think there a small chance the Cavs could try and do something like this. It doesn’t make any sense honestly for Cleveland besides the fact that they may want to be competitive and with Love being Russ old teammate. This could be an option. Long term though Russ Garland and Sexton really doesn’t make sense. But if they want a star this may be the only way.
13 Nov 2018 00:02:39
I hate to say it and I don’t want it to happen but Melo and Cleveland makes more sense now than anything. Cleveland is still searching for a main scorer and if Melo is willing to play reduced minutes then possibly he could even “start†and play 20 minutes a game. Yes Cleveland is probably in full tank mode but I mean we still want to have some type ability to remain competive in the process for the fans sake. He won’t win Cleveland games but will generate some buzz and Cleveland playing like they are right now and with the injuries, needs something and could be desperate enough to try something. Not saying it makes perfect sense but compared to a playoff team not wanting to mess up chemistry, Cleveland needs something whatever that is.
30 Oct 2018 02:25:49
What do you guys think about Becky Hammon? I think that she has talent and working under Pop for the last few years has given her the experience needed to handle the head coach and do it effectively.
20 Oct 2018 14:58:19
I agree about Osman. I knew he could play and watching his overseas highlights on YouTube. I knew before coming over here. He could make an impact but the speed at which this man is developing is a huge promise for Cavs fans.
My overreaction though is unless the Lakers figure out a way to win by Christmas time. I honestly believe they will miss the playoffs. Don’t get me wrong I know Lebron is Lebron but if they can’t win 45 games this year there’s a chance they don’t make it and if they are let’s say 15-15 a time break. They still have to win about 60% of the rest of the games to get to the 45 win mark so I’m saying it’s possible Lakers miss all together.
02 Jul 2018 23:22:41
People act like Cavs don’t have some good young talent. We all know Clarkson, Nance Jr, Sexton, Osman, Hood, and Zizic aren't starters yet but they all have soon promising potential. If 3 of those players become solid starters then the Cavs will be fine in a two years when they mature a little more. Add other youth and most likely talent acquired by Love will have an effect as well.
24 Jan 2018 16:56:39
Trust me the Cavs are trying to do all they can right now in order to make good deals and as for Lue it would be horrible to fire him now considering the players still have him back and letting him go now would only cause more problems. Reason why Lue is a good coach for the Cavs is because he allows Lebron to do whatever and gives him control. That’s all this season is about right now anyway is TRYING to make Lebron happy.