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16 Nov 2018 15:24:05
Trade: Golden State Warriors - Brooklyn Nets

BRK get Draymond Green, maybe some pick
GSW get Jarrett Allen, Demarre Carroll (exp)

The Warriors would trade Draymond Green to an eastern team and no rival, get a solid forward in Carroll, mainly for his expiring contract to make a resigning of Durant and Thompson possible, plus a good, cheap center in Allen. Brooklyn on the other side would have a foundation in Green and LeVert along with their cap space for max-contract type free agents next year. What do you think?

cptweasle

1.) 16 Nov 2018 22:34:19
I think Warriors would easily get many other deals that would exceed that package.


 

 

24 Jan 2017 22:01:46
Trade: Cleveland Cavaliers - Utah Jazz - New York Knicks

CLE get Carmelo Anthony, Shelvin Mack
UTA get Kevin Love
NYK get Derrick Favors, Alec Burks, Utah's 1st 2017 + a cap filler from the Cavs (James Jones? )

Say the Knicks really want to get rid of Melo and he would waive his No-trade clause, should Cleveland consider him, if they'd get a backup PG (Mack) with this, too? Maybe parting from Kevin Love wouldn't be such a bad idea after all, as he often was injured in the last games and when he played, was just not as effective as earlier this season.

I know, it's rather unlikely that the Cavs shake things up at this time, but maybe a player like Anthony could even be the key in winning another championship. He surely is not the player he used to be, but also not as bad as everybody currently seems to make him.

And at this rate I'd rather have a healthy Melo than an injured Love, also considering things like team spirit / integrity as I think he simply would fit better with the Cavs than Love does at present. Who on the other hand would fit perfectly with the Jazz, in my opinion. And having him maybe could be a reason for Gordon Hayward to resign next season with Utah.

Favors and Burks are both not where they used to before their injuries; minute- and ability wise. So trading them may make sense. Also for New York as they get two still relatively young players and a first rounder from Utah, though I'm not sure whether this already may be too much. Favors then could start at 5 with Porzingis at 4 or vice versa and Burks could come off the bench for Lee at 2 or maybe both at wing, as the SF-spot would be vacant, obviously.

cptweasle

1.) 24 Jan 2017 23:00:00
Not a bad idea but how about Raul Neto to Cleveland in place of Shelvin Mack


2.) 25 Jan 2017 00:34:08
Kevin Love would be a great fit in Utah but I fail to see how Melo is a better fit than Love in Cleveland. Love's back injury is nothing major and he posted one of his best games of the season yesterday so he is fine. I don't understand the team spirit/ integrity argument for Melo.

Ask Bosh and Love how hard it is adjusting from being a #1 option your entire career to the 3rd option that alone should deter Cavs from making a move for Melo this late in the season. Not to mention Melo isn't a better defender, rebounder or passer than Love.

He is a much more dynamic offensive force and better at creating his own shot but these aren't characteristics Cavs need from their 3rd option, Kyrie has proven to be the closer and he or Lebron can be playmakers. This doesn't even take into account the value.

Melo has very little trade value not only due to his age and his contract but with his no trade clause he would only go to a handful of teams. Therefore I don't think Melo is a good move for the present and future and I don't think Shelvin Mack changes that. Norris Cole or Mario Chalmers are similar caliber and can be picked up in FA. Cavs will likely have a lot of other potential names to sign once the buyout season is through (Deron Williams is a likely candidate and would be a solid backup) .

Basketball wise I think the trade would make a lot of sense if it was just between Jazz and Knicks with Jazz getting Melo who could play the 4 and provide insurance in case Hayward left but I can't imagine Melo waiving his no-trade clause to play in Utah.


3.) 25 Jan 2017 01:22:12
Knicks pass


4.) 25 Jan 2017 14:41:07
@NBA I thought about that, but I think Raul Neto just wouldn't be good enough for the backup PG-position. There are probably better point guards in FA, which the Cavs could sign immediately instead of trading for Neto.

@Jaw457 What I meant with team spirit / integrity is, that I think Melo and Lebron simply would get well together - they're homies. Which you probably can't say about the relationship to Love, from what I've read. And I think that's a factor not to be undervalued, even if Melo might be worse than Love in all the points you mentioned. Like in last years olympics Anthony by far was not the best player on the team, but he was a mentor, a catalyst. Btw, I don't think Deron Williams is going to be bought out, as the Mavericks could get something back of value for him in a trade.


5.) 28 Jan 2017 06:17:27
That's not enough for love.


 

 

15 Jan 2017 21:41:41
Trade: Cleveland Cavaliers - Minnesota Timberwolves - New York Knicks

CLE get Carmelo Anthony, 2 highly protected 1sts from MIN and NYK
MIN get Kevin Love, Derrick Rose
NYK get Andrew Wiggins, Kris Dunn or Ricky Rubio + cap fillers (Pekovic, Aldrich etc. )

Just an idea: Cavs get Anthony, who could start as SF, while James switches to 4 (or the other way round obviously) . Minnesota then gets a nice home coming story with Kevin Love, who should fit perfectly alongside Towns. Muhammad could start at 3.

Also, Thibs reunites with his old protege Derrick Rose. To include Noah for this reason would be nice too, but his contract seems to make this impossible. The Knicks on the other side could build around a young core of Porzingis and Wiggins plus either Dunn or Rubio (Hornacek maybe would favor Rubio here, as he may have less upside than Dunn, but as a veteran and pass-first PG may be easier / better to work with) .

Btw, the initial trade idea here was Melo to CLE, Love to MIN and Wiggins to NYK. Personally I think, as bright as his future will be, that Andrew Wiggins doesn't really fit to Tom Thibodeau's system, while a stretch 4 like Kevin Love could help immediately.

cptweasle

1.) 15 Jan 2017 23:13:58
Sorry, Minnesota passes. Carmella no longer worth a young player like Wiggins. And you want Minnesota to give up a 1st along with Dunn or Rubio, while taking on Rose. Take that weak crap out of here.


2.) 16 Jan 2017 00:42:44
Melo has no value now! Cleveland won't shake up their roster now! They have great chemistry! Why screw that up?


3.) 16 Jan 2017 02:38:28
HA! Good luck getting that value back for melo and rose. Lol they have little value. Both are ball hogs and both are aging and on and contracts. Rose is going to ask for max. so I considered that.


4.) 16 Jan 2017 04:15:55
Yeah Knicks are getting too much here. Wolves pass.


5.) 16 Jan 2017 10:25:49
Timberwolves ain't trading Wiggins and Dunn away, Rubio would be possible to get

Rose trade value is non existence, he a free agent in the summer, Knicks be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for him now

Melo has a no trade clause so unless he joins a contender team ie Clippers, Cavs he going to use it, the Knicks have 2 options, work with what they got and get possibly the 7-8 seed or blow up their team right now trade Melo to a contender team for expiring contracts and picks, create some cap space and rebuild this off season, Knicks will not get trade value for Melo now


6.) 20 Jan 2017 19:07:59
Also believe Wiggins has the best chance of the "lil" big 3 to get moved over the other 2.


 

 

13 Dec 2016 09:03:13
Trade: Orlando Magic - Minnesota Timberwolves - Sacramento Kings

ORL get Rudy Gay (opts out)
MIN get Serge Ibaka (exp)
SAC get Ricky Rubio

Since Orlando is looking for another shooter, why not keep an eye on Rudy Gay? He wants out of Sacramento anyways and could play wing with Fournier, with Aaron Gordon switching to his more natural position at 4 and then probably Biyombo starting with him. In my opinion Ibaka would be perfect for Minnesota, too: A nice upgrade to Dieng, especially defensively, at PF and someone who actually can shoot from outside. He also should reduce a little the Timberwolves spacing problem. Sacramento on the other hand get the player they've shown interest in for a longer time now. Sure, Ricky Rubio likely has the least value on this one, but note that the other two simply could be gone after this season, while Rubio's contract lasts for 3 more years. Btw, the above is just the basic trade, as maybe players like Casspi (ORL? ), Mclemore (MIN? ) or Muhammad (SAC? ) could or should be involved.

cptweasle

1.) 13 Dec 2016 09:48:26
Can't imagine Magic dealing Ibaka after they gave so much up to get him a few months ago. I do think Gay would be a nice fit and fill the scorer role that they said they have been in search of. Magic have been trying to move Vucevic so maybe he is the odd man out and he goes to Twolves (wouldnt be an awful fit)


2.) 13 Dec 2016 11:19:14
Yeah, actually I was about to write "MIN gets either Ibaka, Vucevic or Biyombo", cause Vuc may be the one rather to be moved as he lost is starting spot. He and Towns might work, but I just think Ibaka would be the much better fit. And he simply could leave Orlando after this season too as his contract is expiring. I mean, he has had some good games, but I got the feeling it's not really clicking yet. And Vucevic certainly wouldn't bring the defense Minnesota needs and Thibodeau wants right now. Also, as his contract lasts 3 more years, he'd probably harder to move in such a scenario, as he likely would have the biggest value here.


 

 

04 Dec 2016 19:16:01
Trade: Minnesota Timberwolves - Los Angeles Lakers - Sacramento Kings

MIN get Luol Deng
LAL get Rudy Gay (exp / opts out)
SAC get Ricky Rubio

The above would be the outline in which Thibs gets his former Chicago and defensive protégé Luol Deng, who could play aside Towns as a PF or, if Dieng continues to start with Towns, share the wing with Wiggins, while LaVine, Dunn or Jones play Point. Sacramento on the other hand get the player they wanted for a long time now and Gay could be something like a placeholder for the Lakers starting spot at Small Forward, which Ingram fully should take next season as Gay likely opts out in some months anyways. And they also get rid off Dengs big contract, too.

I think some additonal players would have to be involved to make this savory for Minnesota and Sacramento, say: MIN get Deng, McLemore, Casspi - SAC get Rubio, Muhammad - LAL get Gay. Maybe Collison or Lawson will have to be added for the Timberwolves too, as Dunn just seems not to be ready for the starting PG spot and I'm not sure if LaVine is capable for the playmaking either. Maybe Tyus Jones, but Tom Thibodeau still isn't playing him much.

cptweasle

1.) 05 Dec 2016 03:40:27
Only way I see Thibs justifying bringing back Deng and paying him 72M over next four years is if he had a time machine to either redo that contract or could bring back the younger Deng that played with Thibs. Twolves aren't doing anything this year so I see no reason to bring in an overpriced veteran on the wrong side of 30.


 

 

 

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20 Nov 2016 22:10:41
Trade: Milwaukee Bucks - New Orleans Pelicans (after Evans comes back)

New Orleans get Greg Monroe
Milwaukee get Tyreke Evans (exp) + Alexis Ajinca or Omer Asik

With Monroe, who grew up in New Orleans, the Pels finally would get a center Anthony Davis could work with, while Davis also could "adjust" Monroe's lacking defense a little. If Tyreke Evans is and stays healthy the Bucks on the other hand get a good replacement player for Khris Middleton, who's probably out for the whole season. Evans contract about ~$10M also is ending after this season, which I think would be good for the Bucks cap-wise, but also as they just can let Evans go, cause Middleton will take this spot again after he's (hopefully) recovered next season. I added Ajinca / Asik for salary matching reasons and went with Ajinca here:

Milwaukee Bucks:
Henson / Plumlee / Ajinca
Parker / Teletovic / Maker
Evans / Beasley / Novak
Giannis / Snell / Vaughn
Delly / Brogdon / Terry

New Orleans Pelicans:
Monroe / Asik / ( Davis )
Davis / Jones / ( Cunningham)
Hill / Cunningham / [ Pondexter ]
Moore / Hield / ( Galloway )
Holiday / Frazier / Galloway.

cptweasle

1.) 21 Nov 2016 00:17:17
This ain't bad.


2.) 21 Nov 2016 00:17:40
I'm not an Evans guy but it's good value.


 

 

29 Dec 2015 13:34:00
Charlotte Hornets - New Orleans Pelicans

CHA: Ryan Anderson + Omer Asik
NOLA: Al Jefferson + Spencer Hawes

As Jefferson sees a lot fewer minutes now after his suspension and it works also kinda without him, trading him might reasonable. Especially as his contract is expiring and he might be gone after this season. The latter also applies for Ryan Anderson, so why not send him to Charlotte, where he sort of already could fill the spot they're wanting Kaminsky someday to be, if you finally can get a quality starting Big Man for that alongside Anthony Davis in New Orleans. To be honest I only added Asik and Hawes mainly for salary reasons, as a straight up Jefferson for Anderson trade wouldn't work I guess. But I think it would be argumentative to include those two as the Hornets wouldn't need a third Shooting-PF with Hawes then, particularly since he hasn't play that well so far. Same with Asik just for the Center-position of which the Pelicans then would have 4, if you count either Jefferson or Davis as a C. The Charlotte Hornets could use Asik as the exchange Center for Cody Zeller, which I would start with along Ryan Anderson.

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11 Nov 2015 10:08:55
I've got a question concerning the Chalmers and Ennis for Udrih and Stokes - Trade: Trying this one on the trade machine it says that the Heat would be "over the luxury tax treshold via the 125% plus $100.000 rule" and the trade therefore wouldn't work. So my question is: How do the Grizzlies make up the needed ~$1M? Send it in cash or use a trade exception? Or else?

cptweasle

1.) 11 Nov 2015 14:43:14
They probably sent in cash but I'm not sure. I do know the heat got a 2.1 mill trade exception.


 

 

 

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25 Jan 2017 14:55:57
Lol, why does soxfan893 get down votes for this? It's true, the Celtics don't have a non Nets 1st in 2017. They only own the swap rights for their own 1st pick with the Nets in 2017, so Brooklyn likely will have to pick in the early, mid twenties instead of one of the top lottery picks. Other than that the Celts only own a couple of 2nd rounders this year.

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25 Jan 2017 14:41:07
@NBA I thought about that, but I think Raul Neto just wouldn't be good enough for the backup PG-position. There are probably better point guards in FA, which the Cavs could sign immediately instead of trading for Neto.

@Jaw457 What I meant with team spirit / integrity is, that I think Melo and Lebron simply would get well together - they're homies. Which you probably can't say about the relationship to Love, from what I've read. And I think that's a factor not to be undervalued, even if Melo might be worse than Love in all the points you mentioned. Like in last years olympics Anthony by far was not the best player on the team, but he was a mentor, a catalyst. Btw, I don't think Deron Williams is going to be bought out, as the Mavericks could get something back of value for him in a trade.

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13 Dec 2016 11:19:14
Yeah, actually I was about to write "MIN gets either Ibaka, Vucevic or Biyombo", cause Vuc may be the one rather to be moved as he lost is starting spot. He and Towns might work, but I just think Ibaka would be the much better fit. And he simply could leave Orlando after this season too as his contract is expiring. I mean, he has had some good games, but I got the feeling it's not really clicking yet. And Vucevic certainly wouldn't bring the defense Minnesota needs and Thibodeau wants right now. Also, as his contract lasts 3 more years, he'd probably harder to move in such a scenario, as he likely would have the biggest value here.

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13 Nov 2016 19:43:45
When did Kanter gain value? Like when he played 3 minutes against the Warriors? Or had the worst +/ - on Wednesday? Where they lost against the Raptors? Where Patterson played 34 mins, had 13 points and a +18 overall? Speaking of plus minus: Kanter currently stands at -8.3 on court and -16.1 (! ) over replacement player per 100 poss. Not bad, much value.

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13 Nov 2016 19:01:07
Way too much for Kanter. And what do the Raptors want with him? He's basically a poor man's Valanciunas and having both on the floor would open the hell gates of "no defence". Also, the Raptors are currently a winning team and I don't see much sense in trading away the player who is 3rd in the teams minutes per game. I think if they would trade for a big, they'd rather look for a guy like Bismack Biyombo, but now that Nogueira has been playing so good lately, I can't see this happening either.

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