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23 Jun 2022 23:50:27
Hornets: Kelly Olynyk

Pistons: Gordon Hayward, #13

iFroth

1.) 24 Jun 2022 02:11:30
i try to do my trades for fair value. turns out the Pistons WILL be getting this 13th pick just to eat the final year of Kemba Walker's contract. also get Duren too.


2.) 24 Jun 2022 02:52:44
whoever clicked unbelievable must not know how smart Troy Weaver is.


3.) 24 Jun 2022 22:00:05
looking back at this, Charlotte would have made out like bandits if this happened lol. glad i am not in charge.


 

 

15 Jun 2022 20:16:25
this is just for fun but would OKC do this?

Thunder get: #5

Pistons get: #12, Lu Dort, the 1st that the Pistons owe OKC would also be returned to Detroit.

iFroth

1.) 15 Jun 2022 22:21:34
then Detroit packages Grant + #12 for #7 + Keon Johnson

you get a TON of value just for moving down 2 spots and you can still get 1 of Mathurin/ Sharpe and now you also have Dort and you can trade Olynyk + 2 future lightly protected 1st rounders to Phoenix for Ayton.


2.) 15 Jun 2022 23:34:02
For # 5. Not for a blue sky player, OKC has a good player in Dort who still hasn’t reached his ceiling.


 

 

08 Jun 2022 23:12:21
DET: Simons (S&T), #7

POR: Grant (signs 4 yr extension), #5


Lillard
Hart
Mathurin
Grant
Jokic

Cunningham
Simons
Sharpe
Bey
Ayton

iFroth

1.) 09 Jun 2022 00:04:20
I feel like Portland only moves up to 5 for Sharpe’s potential, not Mathurin. If Pistons love Sharpe then Blazers can just stay put as it is and still have a pick between Murray/ Mathurin.


2.) 09 Jun 2022 00:07:48
Blazers say no!


3.) 09 Jun 2022 20:51:26
Portland shouldn't do this deal.

More importantly, you lineups are neat. How does Detroit end up with Ayton, and how on Earth does Portland get Jokic?


 

 

07 Jun 2022 07:01:39
Pistons/Hawks

ATL gets Jerami Grant

DET gets Bogdan, #16

iFroth

1.) 07 Jun 2022 18:07:59
Detroit has already said no to bogdan twice.


2.) 07 Jun 2022 21:45:26
i think if ATL includes #16 and possibly a 2023 2nd round pick, the Pistons would bring Bogdanovic in for 2 years and he would only cost the Pistons 9 mil a year roughly. he could be a good scoring option and floor spacer as long as he stays healthy.

if Troy Weaver wants to build a serious team, he WILL sign DeAndre Ayton. him and Cade Cunningham are 2 pillars of potentially a great team. then Saddiq Bey and #5 (Sharpe, Murray or Mathurin) would give Detroit one of the better young rosters in the league. also another lotto pick in 2023's deep draft.


 

 

03 Jun 2022 19:02:06
Pistons off-season best case scenario (realistic)

1) S&T
Detroit gets DeAndre Ayton for 4 year 130 mil

Phoenix gets Jerami Grant & Kelly Olynyk

2) draft Keegan Murray at 5; Caleb Houstan or Gabriele Procida at 46

3) re-sign Marvin Bagley for 2 yrs; decline Frank Jackson and Hamidou Diallo options, sign Gary Harris, Malik Monk & Jarrett Culver

Cunningham/Hayes/Joseph
Monk/Harris/Culver
Bey/Livers/#46
Murray/Bagley
Ayton/Stewart

iFroth

1.) 03 Jun 2022 20:41:49
Idk how happy Bagley will be going back to the bench.


2.) 03 Jun 2022 23:37:21
Bagley was always on the bench. only time he started is when the injuries hit hard. he likes it here and would accept that role for a couple of years. hopefully he stays healthy and keeps improving.


3.) 04 Jun 2022 00:20:17
Bagley stinks.


 

 

 

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25 Jun 2022 06:00:30
it is looking more likely that Ayton will end up with the Spurs. its a good fit but i am confused why they are shopping DeJounte Murray?

iFroth

1.) 25 Jun 2022 13:00:46
this is beginning to look like the league wide rush chasing Kawhi when he demanded a trade. i almost expect to be surprised whichever team ends up with him.


 

 

24 Jun 2022 01:50:38
hey MD

that haul from Portland for Grant just got Detroit Jalen Duren. and also Jaden Ivey fell to 5.

i am really enjoying this.

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23 Jun 2022 00:04:02
the reason the Pistons did the deal with Portland is simple. every other team wanted us to take money back. with this trade, its all draft capital.

puts Detroit at $43 mil. i can see Joseph and Olynyk getting moved, declining CO on Diallo and Jackson.

#5 and #36 picks + enough money to add at least 1 impact player in FA plus a couple of others.

i think the approach is you are on a rookie scale contract and if you prove to deserve an extension, you get one. if not, best wishes.

iFroth

1.) 23 Jun 2022 01:17:57
I feel like this is a sure sign they're going to go hard after a guy like Ayton.

I don't think it was a bad deal if the goal was to clear cap and roster space for free agency and the draft. If they get the guys they want, then it's a win for them. No one can say they got fleeced if it lines up with their plans for the summer. It's all relative to what any given team is looking for out of a deal.


2.) 23 Jun 2022 01:18:52
This is true; what they got for Grant is not just the draft picks, but rather the draft picks plus whoever they sign using his departed money.


3.) 23 Jun 2022 05:34:05
Not buying it. Detroit could have easily sent Grant to Phoenixin the S&T for Ayton.


4.) 23 Jun 2022 15:06:48
Phoenix would have wanted to take Grant back.


 

 

10 Feb 2022 20:00:50
now the Pistons have to buy out Cory Joseph and waive Rodney McGruder. Lakers could use both. i would say good riddance

if you are going to finish 14-68 and get a top pick again, might as well have Saben Lee and Cassius Stanley starting. hopefully Olynyk plays better so he can be moved this summer.

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15 Jan 2022 22:17:00
another request if you all don't mind. i appreciate all the feedback and i enjoy this site.

Detroit cannot trade any 1st rounders so obviously that is off the table. Cade and Bey are untouchable. everyone else can be had.

can anyone make a multi-team trade (3 or 4 teams) where the Pistons acquire De'Andre Hunter from ATL and Anfernee Simons from POR plus a 1st round pick?

obviously Grant would be traded but it could also include Philly where Ben Simmons goes to Atlanta or Portland, Harris and Grant go whichever team does not land Simmons, Sixers get McCollum from POR, Okongwu from ATL, Frank and/or Josh Jackson and/or Hamidou from DET, plus other assets that i cannot think of off the top of my head.

if anyone can make a legit 4 team trade with all of those names involved and possibly more, please give it a try. i will also work on it.

thanks in advance!

iFroth

1.) 16 Jan 2022 00:16:40
Portland currently dies not have a first round pick to trade. The 2022 first that was sent to Chicago has protections through 2028.


2.) 16 Jan 2022 05:39:19
Unfortunately, the way Simons is playing, think the Blazers management will hold on to him for quite sometime, unless they are getting an allstar (maybe not Simmons) in return.


 

 

 

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25 Jun 2022 04:50:26
man i had to come back to this post. the Pistons wanted 2 specific guys and got them both.

Orlando "might" regret not taking Smith #1 but at least they got their franchise player if he is as good as advertised.

i am really enjoying this. Troy Weaver took Jerami Grant and magically turned him into Jalen Duren. God Mode Shxt!

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25 Jun 2022 02:25:45
i think Troy Weaver knows what hes doing and if Ayton is the guy then he will get him. if not, then he can add 2-3 solid rotation free agents and gear up for the loaded 2023 draft class.

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24 Jun 2022 22:00:05
looking back at this, Charlotte would have made out like bandits if this happened lol. glad i am not in charge.

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24 Jun 2022 21:57:52
how much money can PHX take back in a S&T?

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24 Jun 2022 20:16:10
and the Knicks got that lovely 2025 Bucks 1st that Portland graciously gave us for Jerami Grant

lesson we learned: every draft pick is valuable, even if it sounds like its useless cause its 3-5 years from now.

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