16 Sep 2017 17:16:07
The Celtics get Jabari Parker and Monroe

The Bucks get Horford and a lottery protected Boston first

The Celtics get a player that has a ton of potential for cheap if he can come back healthy. They also could clear out a near max contract for next summer. Horford is to old to match the rest of the team and his contract is stopping them from going and getting a player that does fit. Monroe can work as a stop gal for them.

The Bucks get a borderline veteran allstar to help their young team take the next step. They also get out of paying Parker, who hasn't proven he can stay healthy.

1.) 16 Sep 2017
16 Sep 2017 19:56:46
This makes no sense on a bunch of levels.

1. The value isn't right. That first is going the wrong way. Horford is a borderline all star. Monroe is bad, and Parker can't stay healthy.

2. The potential vs age seems backwards as well. Boston wants to compete now, where the bucks seem like they're another year away. I don't see Boston making a move that sacrifices short term for potential long term.

2.) 18 Sep 2017
18 Sep 2017 13:46:04
I don't understand why people want to move Horford out of Boston. The way the team is put together, he didn't have crazy point totals, and he's not a top end rebounder, but he is a very capable scorer when called upon. Most importantly, he's a playmaker in the frontcourt. He averaged 5 assists a game, which I believe led all Centers (if not all big men, but I can't remember the article details I read. either way impressive. ) To put it into perspective with some of the best centers in the league Cousins had 3.9, Davis had 2.1, Whiteside had 0.7, Embiid had 2.1, Gasol came close at 4.6.but Horford was the elite in that category, which is one of the most important stats for Stevens' ball movement system. He's the glue at this point.

3.) 18 Sep 2017
18 Sep 2017 15:04:35
While I may agree that Horford didn't live up to most peoples expectations, he was a huge in the playoffs. He's a great playmaker and Passer who can shoot 3'S. He is, was, and will be a steady veteran presence for the C's. He is exactly what Ainge and Stephens wants him to be.

4.) 18 Sep 2017
18 Sep 2017 16:15:27
I'm not saying Horford isn't a really good player. He's a borderline allstar and can help teams in a variety of ways, but he's 31, he's signed for 3 more years, and the last 2 years he's going to be making almost 30 million dollars. Boston has the pedigree, young core, young established stars, assets and coach to either make a big trade at some point or go after big time free agents. I think they need to get rid of Horford while he still has more value than his contract. He isn't going to be valuable to a team trading a star and the cap space he's taking up will prevent them from going after a younger star. Boston is at minimum a year away from really being a contender in the East (2 or 3 if the Cavs keep it together) and probably 4 years away from being able to stand a chance against the Warriors. That window doesn't match up with Horford.

For the Bucks they have a ton of young talent, but Jabari has looked like an awkward fit even when healthy, they don't have much veteran leadership, and unless Giannis can turn into a top 2 or 3 player they're never going to be a destination for top flight free agents.

5.) 18 Sep 2017
18 Sep 2017 19:24:21
I don't think that Boston cares about the contract commitment. They are keeping him to try and win now. When his contract is up, Irving will be in his prime, Heyward, Brown and Tatum should be at the top of their games (at leat that is the hope) and they should be on or near thetop.
I'm not sure that they cannot make it to the finals this season. Cleveland could be starting the decline. Just saying it's possible, only time will tell.
As far as the Warriors are concerned, prior to all the trades the C's have made, they seemed to have matched up really well with GS. Weve won a couple of games and reasonablY close to them in the losses. After the trades, we may or may not match up as well. But, I have a lot of faith in Danny!

6.) 18 Sep 2017
18 Sep 2017 19:29:23
I don't think Horford would be moved in this deal. Parker is really taking a risk not knowing health wise, and they don't want Monroe. C's would pass

Maybe in a deal for M Gasol or one of the towers from NOLA, I'd like to think for AD but it would most likely be Boogie.

Boston is better off going with Bogut if possible, then making a splash at the trade deadline for the likes of Boogie and convince him to buy into the idea of a 3 yr deal with a the 3rd yr as an option. If they could make it to the finals he'd be more apt to sign on.

7.) 19 Sep 2017
19 Sep 2017 17:52:39
Billj, the thing is that in a trade for Davis, Gasol, and probably even Cousins, Monroe's expiring contract and Parker would both be much more valuable than Horford. Memphis or New Orleans wouldn't have much interest in Horford since they would most likely be starting a rebuild. An expiring contract and a player with allstar potential that they could buy low on would probably interest them though.

8.) 19 Sep 2017
19 Sep 2017 20:05:48
I truly want to believe that rk, but if Parker gets hurt again before a deal could happen then his career is over and it would hurt Boston and Monroe would really not help.

With Bogut out of the picture now signing with LAL, he's not there to win a title, he's there for the weather and comfort level. Boston will most likely roll with the flow with what they have and probably will have to move someone they don't want to at the trade deadline in order to get the help they'll need.

If Boston is on top at the deadline they'll need Boogie or Gasol to compete in the finals. But to keep Boogie it will cost them 200+ for 5 years. Which brings me back to Drummond who I've wanted them to get because of age and contract.