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24 Nov 2018 03:02:40
Boston- Smart, Brown, 1st+2nd rd. pic

Washington- Beal.


1.) 24 Nov 2018 03:52:02
Wiz are asking a high price for him, if that's a good 1st, it's a competitive trade.

2.) 24 Nov 2018 14:26:00
As far as value goes, it's a pretty even trade. I'm not sure if it works out for Beal or for Boston though. Boston is losing two of the few guys that don't have to be ball dominant for another guy who wants the ball in his hands. I feel like Beal would run into the same issues with Kyrie that made it a tough relationship with Wall in Washington.

For Washington, if Wall is physically able to be himself, this could work out well. Sliding Smart and Brown in next to another Morris teammate would give them a lot of toughness. Brown is much better than he's shown this season, and this should help him blossom as an offensive focus. Smart will do Smart things wherever he is.



02 Aug 2018 05:02:59
Rockets making moves to accommodate Melo by trading Chinanu Onuaku and cash to the Mav's for 2nd rd. swap to open up a roster spot.


1.) 02 Aug 2018 05:26:27
Melo to Houston is all but a done deal. Think he'll start?

2.) 02 Aug 2018 11:36:45
BTEC -- Anthony has made two things clear:
1. He will cause trouble if he doesn't start.
2. He plans to return to his old style of play -- hold the ball for a good portion of the shot clock, then try to create his own shot.
Toss in the usual matador defense where he doesn't bother getting past halfcourt some of the time, and that's a recipe for disaster for Houston. It looks like a step back for the team --stiff price to pay just to give Harden and Paul a buddy they can club with.

3.) 02 Aug 2018 13:32:58
I think Houston will see how starting will go, but then things will turn south and the marriage will sour and they'll trade/ release him.

4.) 02 Aug 2018 13:55:33
Welcome back Super, glad to see you on the Melo hate tour again.

Did Melo accidentally spill his Green beer on you at a St. Paddy’s day party in Boston once? Trying to figure out your blinding and enduring hate for the man.

5.) 02 Aug 2018 14:52:45
I actually agree with Super on this one. Melo has been a great scorer in the past, but he's no longer that guy. The unfortunate thing is he can't come to grips with it. If he ever could wrap his head around it, he still has the physical ability to be a contributor on a championship team, and if anyone can, Paul and Harden should be able to make him realize it. if not, he will be dumped. Those two aren't going to settle for moving backward at this point, especially where Paul is in his career.

6.) 02 Aug 2018 16:06:09
Waiving a minimum contract v. s. 25+ mil with a no trade clause is significantly easier with less debate.



05 Jul 2018 06:20:44
Boston trades Brown, Nader, Larkin and Boston's 2019 1st rd. pick

Wolves trade Butler and A Jefferson


1.) 05 Jul 2018 11:03:55
Doubt the Celtics could take on that much salary at this point without making other moves first. Plus, Larkin is a free agent. Other than that, though, it's not far off.

2.) 05 Jul 2018 12:25:25
Three things wrong with this one:

1) Jefferson is not a Wolf

2) Larkin in an FA

3) Take those two out and the salaries still don’t work. Butler is at $21M, Brown and Nader are $7M. C’s don’t have $14M to spend against the cap.

3.) 05 Jul 2018 15:06:25
Your right Tri. I meant Amile but hit the l after the A instead of the .

But think that a couple of players and Brown plus the pick may get him.

Of course some other trades would have to be made to free up some space, like a S&T with Smart for future picks.

But if the rumors are true about Kyrie and Jimmy then the C's would have to explore that Idea. That would for sure get the C's to the finals.


4.) 05 Jul 2018 15:30:12
Wait! I didn't hit the l or the . And yes A Jefferson does play for the Wolves and C's could sign Larkin and then wait to make the trade or they could trow Yabusele in the deal

Trade does work also according to trade machine.

C's already said they would go over luxury tax for a title.



28 Jun 2018 02:38:19
Celtics trade Irving, Brown, Nader, 2019 C's 1st rd. pick, 2019 LAC 1st rd. pick..

Wolves trade KAT, Teague, Tyus jones


1.) 28 Jun 2018 04:39:29
Celts would not dismantle their squad in this way. It's way too many important pieces. The baynes re-signing report recently probably wouldn't be there if they were planning on something like this.

2.) 28 Jun 2018 05:07:52
Not knowing what Kyrie is going to do is a big? mark. They dismantled their squad last season and look how they ended up.

I have faith that whatever squad they have Brad Stevens will steer them to the Conference Finals again and then the Championship Finals.
Teague and Kat are just as good as Irving and Baynes/ Theis/ Williams.

Teague/ Rozier
Tatum/ Smart
Hayward/ Morris
Horford/ Theis
KAT/ Baynes.

3.) 28 Jun 2018 05:54:17
@billj there was a long interview listed today with Stevens. Irving has no plans on going anywhere as of yet. Neither did Leonard this time last year so things can change but Irving thinking about leaving is hype.

4.) 28 Jun 2018 06:09:59
I hear ya Btec, just my opinion. Then I hope they pick up Dwightmare for the year, he's worth the headache if a Championship is obtainable.

5.) 28 Jun 2018 06:25:25
I honestly don't see their need for a center. Kyrie and Hayward and Theiss if all are healthy is a significant roster improvement. Without, they handled the arguably best center in the league pretty well. (embid) . Drafted williams too.

6.) 30 Jun 2018 08:15:47
Bad for both teams.



07 Jul 2017 15:08:13
Bleacher Report just reported Avery Bradley to Detroit for Marcus Morris.

Maybe Crowder is part of a bigger deal for Gasol or another Big.. Either way C's need a paint clogger..


1.) 07 Jul 2017 15:43:17
Initially I didn't like it for both teams but I guess it works for both. Celtics don't get the big man they needed but they get a solid all-around, cheap pf/ sf that could start for them.

For Pistons Bradley gives them the player they hoped KCP would eventually become. Since Bradley is due an extension next season and Pistons already over the cap I assume they don't plan on keeping both so this is likely mean they won't resign KCP. An interesting turn of events since they seemed to be very high on him but I'd be wary about giving him the 20+ mill per year he likely wants too. Moving Morris also opens up some minutes for guys like Stanley Johnson who looked promising in his rookie year.

2.) 07 Jul 2017 15:47:46
Maybe Monroe from Milwaukee for Smart?

3.) 07 Jul 2017 16:36:26
Might want to call Minnesota. Dieng is probably available.

4.) 07 Jul 2017 16:45:16
Monroe for Smart doesn't work after the Hayward signing and with Delly and Smart both being on the roster seems redundant for the Bucks.

5.) 07 Jul 2017 17:51:17
Bucks are looking for another PG, Dellavedova has been playing PG/ SG as has Brogdan Also PG/ SG. GPll will soon be gone, as will Vaughn. Milwaukee is pretty much a "Position less" team. Smart could also be the PG/ SG they are looking for. Boston still needs a center that can take up space. Monroe does that, plus he is also a scorer. But, Boston would also have to give up either another player, or one of many draft picks they hold. to even out the trade.




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10 Dec 2018 15:05:20
With Whiteside missing a 3rd game (birth of his child), do you guys think because of him leaving the bench a couple games ago they are trying to find a trade partner?

What team would benefit the most by trading for him and what player (s) would be involved?


1.) 10 Dec 2018 15:48:21
At this point Whiteside would be hard to give away.

The Sixers might try to work something out where they offload Fultz and another asset, then bring on Whiteside in case Embiid's feet swell up like a Macy's Thanksgiving Day parade balloon.

2.) 10 Dec 2018 15:59:24
I don't know if Spoelstra is messing with him or what the deal is but they need to part ways. They wouldn't trade him or didn't like the offers or both last summer. He was definitely available.

Mirotic, Hill
Whiteside, 2nd.

3.) 10 Dec 2018 18:23:34
He's been on the block for a while hasn't he?

4.) 10 Dec 2018 22:36:39
Miami signed him then he stopped being good. can't shoot from line to finish games. His defense isn't good.



22 Nov 2018 03:01:23
What trade (s) will turn Boston around?


1.) 22 Nov 2018 04:02:10
Hayward for a center? Or Hayward for anything?

2.) 22 Nov 2018 04:13:31
Put Brown back in and bench Hayward or play him a lot less. Something is either still wrong or Hayward needs more time to strengthen his injured parts. I'd trade him but it would cost too much. Heartless business. Not shooting well, looks slow.

3.) 22 Nov 2018 08:39:28
Yeah I am not panicking just yet, this team can go on a run let’s see at Allstar break Good time to back them to win the East conference final.

4.) 22 Nov 2018 11:31:58
Time for the Big guns. Brown, Rozier, Hayward and 3 picks for Davis and fillers.

5.) 22 Nov 2018 14:46:40
It would involve Tatum I'd think.

6.) 22 Nov 2018 18:22:04
After losing to the Knicks I'm pretty sure Ainge is working the phones.

7.) 23 Nov 2018 04:39:06
No doubt.



05 Oct 2018 09:59:00
Now with Kyrie committing to Boston long term this will definitely speed up the process of trading for AD ASAP.


1.) 05 Oct 2018 14:07:52
I just find this notion funny. Celtics and Lakers fans just go, ok, now we will get AD. The problem is, the Pelicans have a top 5/ top3 player, signed for 2 years, with a player option. You really think a team is just going to trade him because the Celtics or Lakers want him?

What kind of package do you think the Celtics would offer that would actually entice this kind of move? I assure you, marcus smart and a couple future 1sts isn't doing it. The Celtics will need to move some top assets, likely 2 of the 3 - Rozier, Tatum, Brown. Celtics fans don't seem to want to include this. but that is absolutely what the Pelicans will command and receive for AD.

2.) 05 Oct 2018 14:22:07
What everyone is looking at is how Davis reacts if the team gets off slowly this season. Yes, Davis has two years left on his deal and that's part of what makes him so valuable. He doesn't seem like a diva, but who knows what tune he'll be singing if the Pels miss the playoffs and the team looks like it's on a downward spiral?
It stinks that great players like Irving, Leonard and Butler can basically hold their teams hostage by demanding trades, but that's the way the NBA is today. And you can't blame the Lakers or Celtics for playing by the rules. Like the other 28 teams, Boston and LA are trying to get better.
As to the Celtics, they've made some great deals accumulating assets for the times that great players like Davis become available, which is not often.

3.) 05 Oct 2018 15:20:27
It would take Davis wanting out and the Celtics being willing to give up a ton. Tatum or Brown would be the jumping off point. If they wouldn’t put one of those guys on the table, the Pelicans aren’t even going to consider it.

4.) 05 Oct 2018 15:24:59
My opinion is Davis wants to play withJames and signing with paul is the reason. I'm not going to be the only one with that opinion for the same reason its just natural even if James was on a different team. It's not the Lakers this time got my opinion it's for LBJ.

5.) 05 Oct 2018 15:55:56
As rkeene said, it's all about what the Celtics are willing to give up. If they refuse to include Hayward (which I expect), then the trade would have to center around Horford and Brown/ Tatum plus another valuable player and a high pick. Are the Celtics willing to pay that price?

In fact, I think NO would hold out for Tatum. Period. Without the Celtics most valuable young player, you can't get a top 5 player in the NBA.

What I think NO would require: Tatum, Horford, Rozier, Sac pick. I doubt that take less. Would you pay that price as a Boston fan?

6.) 05 Oct 2018 16:40:41
BMiller -- There is no team in the league that could give anything close to Horford, Tatum, Rozier and the Sac pick. Yes, that's what NO might demand today. Every day that goes by, though, the price drops. And what would the price be if Davis channels Jimmy Butler and goes postal? And what if that happens and Boston offers Brown, Rozier and a lower No. 1? How many teams could beat that?

7.) 05 Oct 2018 16:48:24
The pelicans are going to be good. They will be better than they were last season. The post cousins-injury pelicans were a good team. It took the warriors to rattle their cage in the playoffs and they didn't get swept. Their chemistry will be better and rondo is a good player but he wasn't the franchise. Holiday and Davis are a good pairing too. Defensive minded guys with offensive talent. Gentry is a good coach too. One of the few left in the league.

8.) 05 Oct 2018 17:19:13
notdrainer, you answered your own Q. 2 out of the 3,Rozier and Brown. Tatum is not going anywhere unless it's the rafters. Smart would be the better choice to make #'s work, even if you don't think he's worth the contract he has, in todays market he's worth every dime of it because of his D.

With AD knowing this he could do what collider said, he could demand a trade. If this were to happen I just can't see another team that could excellerate NOLA's rebuild process quicker and with the right assets more than what the Celtics could offer.

9.) 05 Oct 2018 17:37:44
Comparing Butler to Davis doesn’t make sense. One can be the best player on a championship team and the other can’t. Plus, Davis is 5 years younger and doesn’t have the same baggage. Look at what the Spurs just got for Kawhi and he missed the entire year. Not to mention that there were real concerns that even peak Kawhi benefitted from his system/ organization and Davis has most likely been hampered by his. Something like Brown, Smart, Theis, the Sac pick and another 1st seems like the minimum and it would most likely be more. Every team in the league would be willing to give up almost anything for him.

10.) 05 Oct 2018 18:11:43
You seem to miss the point. echoing what was said above, Davis is not a diva and has given literally zero indication that he wants out. He is under team control, young, and a top 5 player. He is a top 2 player to build a franchise around (giannis is the other) . If a team wants to get him they will need to pay and pay huge. It isn't a thing of every day that goes by they will lower their numbers. they are not giving a dollar away for 4 quarters. He is their franchise, so its just funny when people are like ok. now the lakers or the celtics are going to get him. even if he demands a trade (which he wont), the pelicans would then need to agree to trade him, and I assure you, every team in the league will come offering boat loads for him. I can see at least 5 teams offering MASSIVE assets for him. so its not simply, ok. this team wants him now, so they will now get him.

11.) 05 Oct 2018 19:36:56
Quite a few teams could match Brown, Rozier, and a mid first. That's two decent prospects (but not ones I'd consider elite) with a non-great pick. Also, Horford (or Hayward) has to be included for contract matching as far as I could tell.

I just don't see NO accepting something that doesn't include Tatum. You want a superstar, you give up a potential future star. To me, Brown and Rozier don't fit that, only Tatum does.

12.) 05 Oct 2018 19:39:42
Also, Boston has zero chance to sign Davis, they can't create cap space. That gives NO all the power over Boston, along with two more years on his contract and his overall happiness so far. NO holds all the cards, and there are 28 other teams building trade packages. You want the most valuable player in the NBA today? You pay the biggest trade package of the last decade.

13.) 05 Oct 2018 20:36:21
additionally, people need to stop thinking about he needs a ring now and will do everything for it. he's 25, his team has improved each of the past 3 years, they have a solid core of the same age/ career arc. they are good. AD seems like the type that will want to win for that town, he doesn't seem like the type to go "get me out for rings"

My guess. he remains loyal and this is all fantasy smoke.

14.) 05 Oct 2018 21:56:27
1st conversation would be Tatum is not available. Then it would be Brown, Smart or Rozier (any 2) and 3 first rd picks and Theis, Yabusele or Semi would be hard for NOLA to turn down.

15.) 06 Oct 2018 01:49:43
Pelicans are going to fall short and blazers are in. Lakers and Denver are in pelicans and wolves out.



19 Jul 2018 16:41:53
Now with Smart signed for 4 yrs. do you think he'll be packaged at some point for AD?


1.) 19 Jul 2018 17:42:46
If not, the signing doesn't make a lot of sense. 4 @ 52 seems like a big overpay otherwise, but at least now the Celtics can put something together to match salaries.

2.) 19 Jul 2018 17:45:58
Maybe as filler, a year or two from now. I'd imagine Brown or Tatum would need to be involved. If New Orleans traded him with 2 years left, they will get ridiculous offers. You'd have to imagine the Celtics, 76ers, Lakers, Warriors, and just about anyone else that can throw out a competitive offer will be bidding on him. If he hits the trade market, he would be the most valuable player to be available in recent nba history.

3.) 19 Jul 2018 21:49:47
rk. I too think he would just be a $$ filler, Brown would be the main piece with picks thrown in. Tatum is untouchable unless the deal is AD straight up for Jason

The Celtics need to get a STAR now to capitalize on Tatum's salary value and Championship window. Horford has 2 years left and he's a big piece of this. AD is that player, NOW! Ainge needs to Try his hardest to make this happen now. Bos has 4 #1's next year, now's the time to sprinkle them over the cake.

Time is essential here.

4.) 20 Jul 2018 00:00:41
AD would be the icing on the cake for Boston whether he is gettable at any price is another thing . Once we know Kyrie’s plan then it will get tricky on who stays and who has to be released, Tatum is staying, Brad Stevens is staying, Danny Ainge is staying, there the corner stone for next 5-8 years.

5.) 20 Jul 2018 03:08:35
I just can't see the Pelicans even considering trading Davis right now. He's to good and to young to consider trading unless you know he's leaving. The Celtics would have to offer something completely nonsensical to get him right now.



04 Jul 2018 17:39:19
Dwightmare to the Wizards on a 1 yr deal!!!!!


1.) 04 Jul 2018 20:00:54
Good thinking for the wiz get rid of gortat because of personality issues with wall and get Howard? Hilarious.

2.) 08 Jul 2018 16:06:28
With the money they have committed to Wall and the fact that Gortat is on a steady decline they really didn't have much of a choice but to get rid of a Gortat.

We'll see if Howard was worth it, but it doesn't seem like to ridiculous a hailmary for a team that clearly needed a starting center and that's underperformed expectations 3 of the last 4 years. They could have possibly made a run at Cousins or Noel, but both come with their own set of similiar problems as Howard and no guarantee that they'll even be rotation caliber players this year.




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15 Dec 2018 04:34:46
Davis reneges his contract and becomes a FA and signs a max contract? Is that how it would work out?




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12 Dec 2018 03:36:25
Why wouldn't LAC want Rozier?




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08 Dec 2018 06:37:07
TD is Feb 7.




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05 Dec 2018 01:53:18
Pelicans are in the drivers seat for any deal involving AD.

Joel, Ben, and anything else not nailed down plus another future 1st.




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04 Dec 2018 16:42:36
Can't happen. Baynes has a NT clause this year, but of course he can sign off on it but I doubt that.





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